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I have heard from a few sources that you are able to get paid to write articles online. To anyone that has experience doing this, how does the compensation work exactly? And, are you able to write articles about whatever you please, or are you assigned topics to write on?

Thanks in advance.

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  • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
    Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja View Post

    Usually you are assigned articles. You make about .01 per word. Digital point can be a good place to find work if thats what you want to do. Lots of competition though. You would be better off creating products.

    What do you mean by "creating products", like ebooks?
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  • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
    Originally Posted by JimmyAffiliateMarketing View Post

    I personnally hate doing this. There are perfect spinner softwares that will do that for you with a VERY LOW 56% duplicated content

    Jimmy-

    Are you saying that you could use this spinning software to submit the same articles over and over again and get paid each time for the new submissions? Because that would be quite cool.

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    • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
      Originally Posted by makemoneywizz View Post

      Jimmy-

      Are you saying that you could use this spinning software to submit the same articles over and over again and get paid each time for the new submissions? Because that would be quite cool.

      --Wizz--
      I wouldn't spend a dime on a spinning software. Usually the website will hire you to write on a specific topic. After wage is addressed, your job is then to come up with a well-written, and well optimized article that the website wants you to write about.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    You start charging people for spun articles and you will find your reputation ruined real fast. A REAL writer doesn't do anything of the sort. While many writers start as low as one cent a word - writers with excellent skills can make very good money. If you start out spinning articles, you will never get past the cent per word category, and you might not even be able to keep in the running for peanuts for too long.

    Decide if you want to be a real writer -- or if you're going to listen to advice about how to spin, plagiarize, and otherwise ruin yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author paul_1
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      You start charging people for spun articles and you will find your reputation ruined real fast. A REAL writer doesn't do anything of the sort. While many writers start as low as one cent a word - writers with excellent skills can make very good money. If you start out spinning articles, you will never get past the cent per word category, and you might not even be able to keep in the running for peanuts for too long.

      Decide if you want to be a real writer -- or if you're going to listen to advice about how to spin, plagiarize, and otherwise ruin yourself.
      Couldn't agree more!
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    • Profile picture of the author WritingService
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      You start charging people for spun articles and you will find your reputation ruined real fast. A REAL writer doesn't do anything of the sort. While many writers start as low as one cent a word - writers with excellent skills can make very good money. If you start out spinning articles, you will never get past the cent per word category, and you might not even be able to keep in the running for peanuts for too long.

      Decide if you want to be a real writer -- or if you're going to listen to advice about how to spin, plagiarize, and otherwise ruin yourself.
      you read this dude ??
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  • Profile picture of the author CliffordCharles
    you could mturk it, but that might be depressing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Audrey Harvey
    So, the responses are basically use mturk, spin articles or use plr. As Sal said, if you're writing for clients, you'll have plenty of refund requests and no second chances.

    Go to the freelance sites. I use elance.com and odesk.com. Set yourself up with an account, work out what you want to charge, write a couple of sample articles to show prospective clients, and start bidding on writing jobs.

    Alternatively, take out a Warrior for Hire thread and offer your services here. It would be worth your while getting some people to review your writing so you can show their feedback in your thread. People aren't always keen to take their chances on an untested writer.

    Yes, there is competition, even if you price yourself at $0.01/word, but there's work out there if you market yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author chase
    Not sure if you have caught the post yet by joekoffi in another thread but he references a blog post that provides 30 sites that reportedly pay for relevant articles - see below:


    Originally Posted by joekoffi View Post

    If you can write articles, this is another avenue to even make more money.
    I found this blog post and though it will be very useful to many writers here.

    Here is a list of 30 websites that will pay you good money to write for them:

    http://www.youngprepro.com/websites-that-pay/
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  • Profile picture of the author MBDirect
    Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

    You start charging people for spun articles and you will find your reputation ruined real fast. A REAL writer doesn't do anything of the sort. While many writers start as low as one cent a word - writers with excellent skills can make very good money. If you start out spinning articles, you will never get past the cent per word category, and you might not even be able to keep in the running for peanuts for too long.

    Decide if you want to be a real writer -- or if you're going to listen to advice about how to spin, plagiarize, and otherwise ruin yourself.


    I second that. Let's be honest. This 1 cent a word crap is a child of the Internet that has opened the field of professional copywriting to a new industry of entrepreneurs who hire people in third-world countries where a penny is a lot of money. They tell English-challenged people who don't have a clue how to write that they can write, pay all their bills and get rich. Soon these opportunities are offered to innocent newbies in the USA, where a penny isn’t a lot of money. (Oh. I forgot. We are becoming a third-world country.)

    If this new breed of "copywriter" works for the entrepreneur who is selling their work for 1 cent a word (most often expressed as a 500 word article for $5), then the “writer” is paid less than 1 cent a word. Many of this new breed freelances independently instead for the whole cent. From there the industry evolves into the even worse subindustry of “copywriters” who spin other people's work and sell that as their product. This is the ultimate ripoff, as anyone who buys it gets an even lower level of what he pays for: ubercrap.

    This industry has filled the Internet with sheer crap bought by users who don't know the difference between quality and crap. Or if they do they don't care. Just write me a ton of crap to fill up my website. Many have come to routinely expect, even demand, “high quality and fast” for a penny a word!


    All of this has spawned false impression that a high quality unique 500-word article can be topically researched, positioned, keyworded and written in 15 minutes, vastly cheapening the perceived value of the professional copywriter while at the same time we continue seeing everywhere the true statement that copy is king and copywriting is the most important of all skills for Internet success, etc. etc.

    Meanwhile comes the site visitor looking for useful information, only to leave in seconds because either the copy is so bad or so unintelligible there is no point in staying. Then along comes Google and de-indexes the site because of the bad visitor experience.

    But apparently this isn’t the end of the story.

    Now comes the dawn of still wilder misperceptions and expectations, like…

    Originally Posted by makemoneywizz View Post

    Jimmy-

    Are you saying that you could use this spinning software to submit the same articles over and over again and get paid each time for the new submissions? Because that would be quite cool.

    --Wizz--


    Ha ha ha this moves me from gasping to LOL. And I really, really mean nothing personal, Wizz. I can tell you honestly didn’t know, and I couldn’t resist the topic after years of watching the damage. Like HeySal says, you would not be helping yourself by participating.

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    • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
      Originally Posted by MBDirect View Post


      Ha ha ha this moves me from gasping to LOL. And I really, really mean nothing personal, Wizz. I can tell you honestly didn't know, and I couldn't resist the topic after years of watching the damage. Like HeySal says, you would not be helping yourself by participating.

      MBDirect
      Comment was meant mostly as a joke. It's not exactly something I'm looking into.
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  • Profile picture of the author dame016
    I have experience as an article writer. I started with $1/500 words. Yes, it was cheap. It's because I still didn't know anything. I just grabbed the first opportunity. With that, I was given a topic to write about and some keywords.

    Then, I found some article submission directories. I can write articles on any topic that I like. I earn an activity bonus (a couple of tens of cents) for each approved article. Plus, I get a monthly pay for the monthly views. Then, I discovered product reviews. Earned an average of $10/review.

    Let me know if you have further questions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jennifer Koebele
      Originally Posted by dame016 View Post

      I have experience as an article writer. I started with $1/500 words. Yes, it was cheap. It's because I still didn't know anything. I just grabbed the first opportunity. With that, I was given a topic to write about and some keywords.

      Then, I found some article submission directories. I can write articles on any topic that I like. I earn an activity bonus (a couple of tens of cents) for each approved article. Plus, I get a monthly pay for the monthly views. Then, I discovered product reviews. Earned an average of $10/review.

      Let me know if you have further questions.
      Can u talk more about product reviews from a newbie standpoint? How did you get started? Thanks for the info!
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  • Profile picture of the author lisakleinweber
    You could sign up at iwriter. Some of the rates there suck. Some are pretty good. I just saw $8.10 for 500 words on an article that looked fairly easy.

    eta: Basically, you can sign up at places like iwriter or mturk or demand studios and get a paycheck online. Or, you can market yourself in any number of places and set your own rates, get your own clients, and collect your own fees.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stoney
    I started out writing articles on Fiverr. That lead to a client who is now paying me $12 for a 500-word blog twice a week. With several clients like that, who needs a day job? The key is to write engaging but concise articles on relevant topics using good grammar and a bit of fun. Hope this helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
      Originally Posted by Stoney View Post

      I started out writing articles on Fiverr. That lead to a client who is now paying me $12 for a 500-word blog twice a week. With several clients like that, who needs a day job? The key is to write engaging but concise articles on relevant topics using good grammar and a bit of fun. Hope this helps!

      Stoney-

      How are the rates on Fiverr? Would it be worth my time to start doing, or is it mostly about getting "discovered" by someone and having them pay you directly to write for them?
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    • Profile picture of the author Micah Medina
      Originally Posted by Stoney View Post

      I started out writing articles on Fiverr. That lead to a client who is now paying me $12 for a 500-word blog twice a week. With several clients like that, who needs a day job?
      Eeek, anyone who has bills to pay, I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Originally Posted by JimmyAffiliateMarketing View Post

    I personnally hate doing this. There are perfect spinner softwares that will do that for you with a VERY LOW 56% duplicated content
    Wait...what?


    Originally Posted by JimmyAffiliateMarketing View Post

    As ninja said up there, content is key! Write by yourself, do 8h every day for 3-4 days, you'll get on first page, trust me


    Originally Posted by JimmyAffiliateMarketing View Post

    Don't buy articles on fiverr, they are ALL spun articles. Who would really write a 500 word article for 5$ really? XD
    Don't flip flop man, you had it right in your earlier posts when it comes to content production. The last thing we want to do is encourage newbies to try and sell spun crap.
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  • Profile picture of the author BridgetSielicki
    If you want to write online and make any kind of money at all, you will have to write on topics that other people request. If you haven't got any experience writing for clients, I do think that starting out at one of the content sites listed above is a good idea. This will give you an idea of what people are looking for.

    If you are more serious and know this is what you want to do, offer your services here in the warriors for hire section, and make sure you have a couple of good testimonials to start. It would also benefit you to set up your own website.

    I know Jenn Dize has a good program called Power Ghostwriting which walks you through all the steps of becoming an online writer. It is a few years old but still very relevant. I wouldn't pay the money for something like this though until you have a feel for things and know that this is what you want to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author robyna
      I used to ghostwrite for clients. I got my start by really practicing and perfecting my craft on Associated Content and blogging. Then, when I was ready, I started taking clients at Elance.

      When you're in the first "practice" phase you have more freedom. You can write or not write when you want. You pretty much get to pick your subjects. (You'll want to pick something people will read!!). Once you get to taking on clients you'll write what they request. I had one client who had me write on funeral caskets once. Yeah...it was a blast! :rolleyes: But writing for clients can be fun.
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  • Profile picture of the author Usmile
    I've heard this stuff on sites that offer freelance works like article writing and some other site that pay you to write content. It doesn't pay you that much but it can be a good sideline. The last time I learned about the compensation is $2-$3 for 500 words article.
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  • Profile picture of the author ashloren
    Try one of these:

    zerys.com (or interactmedia.com)
    textbroker.com
    fiverr.com
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  • Profile picture of the author gentryliving
    Mostly, they will give the topic when writing article. The compensation depends on the level skill of your writing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    When I first started online I looked on Forums for people looking for a writer. Forums such as Digital point there are always threads for people looking for writers. The rates vary but its a great way to get started and build up some money.
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    It seems BOЯAT got a job writing articles for us. Look at the typical HELLarious grammar. He loves his job so. Fact is, in communist Яussia, word 'mizpel' you!
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  • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
    I wanted to try out starting to write some articles on Fiverr. Quick question about getting started; is there some sort of test writing article that I need to write or anything so that they can get a feel for how I write? Because I would find it hard to believe that they would be willing to pay someone who is not a good writer at all to write articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Any reason why you want to get paid to write articles instead of launching an internet business that can be automated? In a way, you're still trading dollars for hours... even though it is a home business, do you think you will find the time to run your business and balance out leisure time also?
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    • Profile picture of the author jideofor
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Any reason why you want to get paid to write articles instead of launching an internet business that can be automated? In a way, you're still trading dollars for hours... even though it is a home business, do you think you will find the time to run your business and balance out leisure time also?
      At least someone has to start from somewhere. . .
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      • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
        You need to have a writer's website first thing that will show samples of your work. You can find private clients to make more money. There are many ways to find these clients, such as Odesk or even on Craigslist. You can make a living writing articles but it can be hard. I've done it in the past and IM is so much better.
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  • Profile picture of the author ishuvonet
    Well I have worked with few of the paid article sites and the topic is assigned-means you have to write on the client's assigned topic.You may work with networks like iwriter,blogvertise etc.Freelancing networks like odesk,freelancer also has numerous opportunities on article writing.

    Besides them you can work with networks like Triond/bukisa where you can write in any topic you like.You will get money on per 1K impression basis per article receives.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    I would rather earn less money, and write only for myself, about things that I am passionate about.

    However, I just had an idea... find a way to write for others about stuff that I am passionate about!

    Good ideas!
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  • Profile picture of the author eshoppingez
    Compensation differs. It depends on whom you're working for and what you ask for. There are a lot of websites that hire writers; you can try one of them. As for writing whatever you please, that might work for residual income sites, but upfront income sites usually give you the topics in which they want the articles done. Hope this helps you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Williams
    Originally Posted by makemoneywizz View Post

    I have heard from a few sources that you are able to get paid to write articles online. To anyone that has experience doing this, how does the compensation work exactly? And, are you able to write articles about whatever you please, or are you assigned topics to write on?

    Thanks in advance.

    --Wizz--
    I have a WSO coming out that teaches you everything you need to know about this plus much more about where to go, how to super charge your results make more, work less etc etc. Currently I am looking for some testimonials. Seeing as you are interested in writing for money would you be interested in A free review copy?

    If so you are welcome to PM me here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
    A lot of people look to make money online and the first thing they do is think "Yes I can get paid as a writer!"

    Now you CAN get paid writing articles and ALL of the OP's questions will be answered by checking out the services section right here at the WF.

    However before you jump into offering articles I suggest you ask yourself whether or not you can write QUALITY content.

    With all of the changes of late at Google you do not want to just churn out 250 word rehashed articles and expect people to come running for your services.

    Or you can use Google to find all your answers:

    Let me google that for you

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  • Profile picture of the author eibhlin
    I can answer this, with over 20 years' experience writing articles, online and offline. I can even give you the history of the online markets for writers. And, since I'm a writer who loves to write, this will be long.

    Pour yourself a cup of coffee, put your feet up, and let's take a cruise through the ups & downs of the article writing business.
    Note: None of the links in this article are affiliate links, and only one link -- the curated content one -- leads to a website I own.
    I'm going to start by describing pre-Internet writing, because it has some similarities and some harsh contrasts with article writing for the web. It also offers some of the highest-paying opportunities. (If you're only interested in how to launch an online article writing career, skip ahead to later sections in this post.)

    Pre-Internet writing

    Many years ago, before the Internet, newbie writers began by writing for magazines that paid in bylines and free copies. (A "byline" or "by-line" or "by line" is where it says, "by [writer's name]" and then you'd tear out the article -- then called a "tear sheet" -- and add it to your portfolio.)

    The free copies were so you'd have one copy for a tear sheet, and give the rest to your proud mom, skeptical kids, or carry with you to an interview where the editor might want to see more than a tear sheet.

    You'd write an article, and if it was good enough to publish and matched the magazine's niche, the article would be published. The issue would appear three months (usually the absolute minimum) to two years later.

    After that, you'd graduate to low-paying writing gigs. In the 1980s, that usually meant $15 - $35 per 250 word article.

    The highest-paying freelance gigs were with "True Confessions" types of magazines. Seriously. A 500-word "true story" could pay hundreds, especially if the editor asked you to expand it to 1200+ words. So, this was where big-name romance writers earned extra money while they were working on their next best-sellers. It was a very competitive market, but -- wow -- the money was great.

    That was an era when every beauty salon in America stocked those magazines in their waiting areas, and lots of women read every word of every issue. Those magazines still pay pretty good money, so they're still highly competitive.

    Further up the publishing food chain, magazines with high circulation would pay anywhere from $50 for "filler" (short blurbs to fill spaces between the big articles, if they didn't sell enough advertising) to around $750 for a cover story in something like Popular Science or Vogue.

    Newspapers also bought (and still buy) filler and some (not many) articles, but for a far lower fee. In the 1980s, it was about $5 - $20 for filler pieces as short as 15 words.

    Rights were a big deal. From my experience, it was better to sell only "First North American Rights," meaning the publication was the first to publish the article, but then you got the article back to resell, elsewhere. Even if the article sold for $15, you could make another $350 easily, selling that same article over and over again to low-budget magazines that bought reprint rights.

    What I'd do is this: Sell the article to any cheap and easy magazine, just to get it in print. Then, I'd photocopy the tear sheet, include a double-spaced, printed (typed) copy of the article, and send that out in a bulk mailing to a huge list of lesser magazines. My cover letter would just say the article was available for reprint, and they could pay me whatever their standard reprint fee was.

    Over the next year, the $5 - $25 checks would show up, several times a week... all from one article.

    Today, you can still do that kind of thing. The book you want is "Writers MarketsWriters Markets " for the current year. Your public library probably has a copy. It tells you who's buying what, for how much, and how to approach them. The 2012 edition has over 7,500 markets where you can sell your writing, from magazines to greeting cards to novels.

    When I write for magazines now, I'm paid about $250 per article. Book publishers pay me in that same range, sometimes more, for articles and stories that will appear in an anthology. I've written for books like "Weird Hauntings" (ghost stories, in the "Weird USA" series) and "Kickin' Back in Texas" (regional trivia and travel articles). Most book editors pay me in the high three or low four figures, for articles I love writing.

    Early Internet

    In the 1990s, the Internet worked on a similar model and pay scale. I'm pretty sure Suite101.com was the first to open their doors to anyone who could put a sentence together. They paid me $15 to write one 250+ word article a week (or so) in a niche that had my pen name on it. I ended up with three niches, and it was a lot of fun... until Suite101's business model faltered. They couldn't pay us any more.

    Some writers -- including me -- kept writing for them, anyway. We had fans who eagerly looked forward to our new articles.

    Then, Suite101 changed hands, and I think they wanted to clear the decks. I understood that, since they had a lot of ho-hum writers in the bunch. We were all sent "thanks, but you'll need to reapply" emails, and -- to me -- the offer sounded like an exclusive contract with no pay.

    No, thanks.

    The next steady, paying gig was About.com and a few similar models (BellaOnline, etc.) that sprung up around the same time or later. Some paid per-article, and others paid a percentage of the affiliate and advertising income from your niche's pages.

    Many of those sites are still online and some can provide a good, steady paycheck. However, their rules can be extreme, limiting your work for other websites and even for print media. If the paycheck's good enough, it can be worth agreeing to their terms. And, in some cases, you can negotiate for fewer limits.

    Generally, you're given a niche/topic, and that's all you write about, but you have a lot of leeway in terms of what you say and how long the articles must be.

    Then, writers worked for sites like Write For Cash. That was huge for awhile, and it paid $15/article with only so-so quality standards. They'd provide you with a list of topics, and you'd sign up for the ones you wanted.

    Once you'd proved yourself as a good writer, you could suggest your own topics. It was a fun gig at that level, and their writers' forums led to long-time friendships. I'm still in touch with many of those writers, sometimes on a daily basis.

    Things turned sour there when it looked like a college professor was trying to hawk her students' papers as "articles" and she'd grab most of the best available topics. She maintained that she was just a prolific writer, but the issue divided the community and.. well, it wasn't the same after that. In a few months, Write For Cash closed its doors and reopened under another name, with different rules for writers.

    But, hey, getting paid $15 for a 500-word article about ways to wash a bath mat... it was an interesting challenge. It was fun while it lasted.

    As those doors closed, other options emerged. They're the current models.

    Current article writing gigs

    Out of the ashes of businesses like Write For Cash, entrepreneurs set up article shops. One of the earliest -- now past its "growing pains" stage -- was Constant Content.

    It's still a good place to sell articles, if you're a powerful writer who can turn out authority-style articles on demand.

    There, you can earn a living if you are prolific enough and write well-researched articles. You'll sell your original articles, PLR-style, by selling just "usage" rights. You'll earn about $5 - $30 per article (sometimes lower, sometimes higher) each time someone simply uses your article.

    You can also sell unique and full rights for $25 per article and higher -- sometimes much higher -- if your research and writing are superb.
    Don't even think of posting a spun article or someone else's work. Constant Content has deep pockets and top-level software to expose plagiarism. (Not sure about copyright laws and spinning articles? Check my article, Curated Content - What it is and what it isn't, especially around the "what it isn't" section.)
    At the low end, there are micro-job sites. Fiverr is actually one of the better paying sites. Those gigs put you in competition with people in countries where $5/day can be a living wage.

    The bad news is: A whole lot of people buying those kinds of articles -- referred to as "junk on paper" by those of us who've been writing for a long time -- never really read the articles. So, they don't care that they're buying badly-spun PLR, or their writer's "research" involved copying an article from About.com, with some eZineArticles.com content added.
    When you (perhaps unknowingly) use a plagiarized article based on material originally written by someone with a successful writing career, you're playing a dangerous game.

    From my experience, spotting my own work on unauthorized sites, about 50% of the hosting services will quickly shut down the entire site where the stolen content appears. I'm talking about hours, if not minutes.
    When a writer has to prove his or her work was the original, the Wayback Machine is a wonderful thing.

    If you're hiring a writer or outsourcing your writing, double-check that person's work against CopyScape. Then, manually check a few unusual phrases at Google, just to be sure.
    The good news is: With even modest research and writing skills, your work can be vastly better that the $1/article garbage. Frankly, I wouldn't accept less than $15 for a 500-word article, and even that is a pretty low rate of pay if you're producing quality work.

    In the article writing business, "you get what you pay for" isn't a firm rule, but it's pretty close.

    Where to begin

    Starting out, Fiverr is a good middle-of-the-road way to earn money and improve your writing skills.

    You don't need a writing course. I have yet to see one that's worth what it costs, if you're aiming at the $5/article marketplace. (That said, I still refer to some of Jason Fladlien's reports about writing, for prompts, and Travis Sago's free "bum marketing" plan also offers superb writing tips.)

    You might need a grammar and punctuation review. Elements of StyleElements of Style is still a great reference, and almost every public library has a copy.
    Quick quiz to see if you need it:

    Q. When using quotation marks, where does a comma or a period go, if you're writing for an American audience?

    A. Inside the quotation marks. So, it's "here's the quote," not "here's the quote". (Ref.)
    Becoming a truly good writer is easy, but it can be time-consuming: Write. Then write some more. And continue writing, every day.

    Yesterday, this quotation was making the rounds on Facebook, and it sums up a writer's life, nicely:
    “You must write every single day of your life... You must lurk in libraries and climb the stacks like ladders to sniff books like perfumes and wear books like hats upon your crazy heads... may you be in love every day for the next 20,000 days. And out of that love, remake a world.” ― Ray Bradbury
    If you're already a good writer, apply at Constant Content. You'll need to stand out in the crowd to earn top dollar; with 50k writers in their pool, it's a competitive marketplace.

    Nevertheless, I'm still receiving "usage" payments for some (not very good) articles I wrote about eight years ago, for a similar site.

    If you're good, but not quite ready for a competitive marketplace, someone's already posted a link to a site listing places where you can write for cash.

    Or, you can simply Google phrases like "write for cash," "write for us," "hiring bloggers," and so on.

    Choose carefully, and use a pen name. Never agree to a contract that limits what you can write, elsewhere. (I swear, writers should screen some of those sites as carefully as -- or more carefully than -- the sites screen applicants.)

    You could post ads here at the Warrior Forum, and post regularly at Internet Marketing-related forums, while mentioning that you're a writer. People will contact you and offer you work.

    However, about 90% of the people who contact you will have $3/article pricing in their heads, and think they're being generous. If you quote a (very low) price of $15/article for top-quality work that will take you at least an hour to research and write, you'll probably never hear from them again.

    If you're good, some people -- in the "guru" league, or those who seriously aspire to reach that level -- will pay you what you ask. That works out to $35 - $50 per hour, minzo.

    Keep in mind that you cannot boast that you write for them, mentioning them by name (or even hinting heavily), and you usually can't use them as a reference.

    When you work for a guru or someone on the fast track to IM success, you're paid well because you're a great writer. You're also paid for your discretion. Both are vital if you want to keep working in this field.

    Creating your own market

    If you're a really good and prolific writer, consider creating your own marketplace. That's what I'm testing, and it's why I'm turning down most freelance writing gigs, now.

    I've "paid my dues" writing articles about buying used mobile homes, 5 ways to remove chewing gum from clothing, and so on. (Those are real examples.)

    Now, I want to write for fun and money.

    If that sounds good to you, you have many options. I suggest starting with one (or both) of two business models that are doing well, right now:

    1. Create a site selling one-off articles and/or PLR
    that you write. I'm testing that in April 2012.

    My early experiments have been astonishing, and Tiffany Dow's advice in this field is excellent.

    My best tips:
    • Decide which niches to focus on, from the beginning. Don't spread yourself too thin. Start with four or five niches at the most, so you'll use your niche research over & over again. An hour of research for just one article... that's not a smart use of your time.
    • Stay current on SEO, so you know the word count that will serve your customers well, and what keyword strategies are best. Repeat customers are your bread & butter. Earn their loyalty.
    • At least 30% of your research should rely on offline sources such as books, textbooks, lectures, theses, and magazine articles. Then, your online articles include information no one else has. Your clients will love you for that!

    2. Sell websites you build that include your own really good articles. I've been testing a couple of variations of that for the past few months.

    My concept is based on Lisa Gergets' Amazon mini-site model, but I'm loading my sites with content that would usually cost my clients $35/article.

    So far, this is going well, though I haven't marketed it much; I'm still deciding which business models are the most fun for me

    My best tips:
    • A "pretty good" theme with one or two "pretty good" articles and a good, premium Amazon plugin is a model that works. Most of those sites sell (PLR-style) for $25+ without a domain name, and one-offs sell for $97+ with a domain name. If you're starting out, this is a good foundation.
    • Unless you already have clients, build a following at Flippa, and then create your own website with greater freedom... and profits.
    • Find the "sweet spot" that maximizes your talents, in a price range that works for everyone. I'm a bright researcher & writer, so I'm focusing on juicy, authority-style articles. Others love to stack their sites with the latest-and-greatest premium plugins. And, many people earn a good living by creating themes that look so gorgeous, they don't need to add content or plugins. Within those three categories, you'll find a mix that works for you.
    In summary

    If you're already a good writer, the best money is in print media: Magazines, greeting cards, and books.

    (Though I didn't talk about it much, CreateSpace.com plus Kindle -- in combination -- is the best money for any writer with an existing fan following. If you don't already have a fan base, write great books and implement a very broad range of marketing methods. Shortcuts are often short-lived. Recommended reading: The Well-Fed Self-PublisherThe Well-Fed Self-Publisher and other books by that author.)

    For writing income, the next best idea is freelance writing at sites like Constant Content, but you must be a prolific, high-quality writer to do well there.

    If you're a writer with little or no experience, or you need to improve your skills, start with Fiverr and blogs that pay you $5 per post. And, write as much as you can, whether you're paid or not.

    If you want to write, write! That's how you'll improve your skills, and those articles and blog posts can be their own marketing.

    On the other hand, what if you don't wake up in the morning with a smile on your face as you look forward to that day's research and writing? In that case, aim for volume instead of individual, high-paying gigs. Crank out lots of articles, and see where the road takes you.

    You never know when one of your articles will catch the attention of a Hollywood producer, and he contacts you -- not for writing -- but to work as a paid consultant for his latest TV series or movie.

    Anything is possible, and writing can take you to the stars. (Pun intended.)

    I love research and writing, and that combination has provided me with a good income.

    Start with entry-level work, if you're new to writing. You can quickly advance to higher-paying gigs that are far more fun.

    Though there's a lot of competition in the writing field, the fact is: Most of the competition isn't very good.

    You can succeed as a writer. All it takes is the ambition to write, and persistence.

    I hope that helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
      Originally Posted by eibhlin View Post

      I can answer this, with over 20 years' experience writing articles, online and offline. I can even give you the history of the online markets for writers. And, since I'm a writer who loves to write, this will be long.

      Pour yourself a cup of coffee, put your feet up, and let's take a cruise through the ups & downs of the article writing business.
      Note: None of the links in this article are affiliate links, and only one link -- the curated content one -- leads to a website I own.
      I'm going to start by describing pre-Internet writing, because it has some similarities and some harsh contrasts with article writing for the web. It also offers some of the highest-paying opportunities. (If you're only interested in how to launch an online article writing career, skip ahead to later sections in this post.)
      WOW! Thank you on the OP's behalf!

      This a monster of a post!

      If you are thinking of becoming a writer here it is!

      Should be a sticky for writers I think.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jennifer Koebele
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    • Profile picture of the author homburg
      Originally Posted by eibhlin View Post

      I can answer this, with over 20 years' experience writing articles, online and offline. I can even give you the history of the online markets for writers. And, since I'm a writer who loves to write, this will be long.
      Very, very good post by eibhlin. It's even 3000 words long so maybe you could wrap it up as an ebook

      As a magazine journalist I find the whole market of fiverr.com etc depressing, as it debases the craft of writing. People beg to write 500 words for $5 (which means $4 after the website's cut), whereas in print magazines I would be disappointed to get as little as $75 for that, ideally double or more. But you need to know about something, establish a reputation and then you'll get specific commissions.

      Out of curiosity, I recently contacted a Fiverr.com article writer and asked for a sample. Their reply alone was riddled with spelling and grammatical errors, as were their articles. And yet... they were one of the higher rated writers at the site. Sigh.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ferdonen
    If you ask me, I'm fully-satisfied using paidforumposting.com service.
    They offer article writing, blog commenting, and forum moderation packages as well to complement the forum posting.
    Their work is based on quality. the code 2012 gives 12% discount.
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  • Profile picture of the author Royalking
    Originally Posted by makemoneywizz View Post

    I have heard from a few sources that you are able to get paid to write articles online. To anyone that has experience doing this, how does the compensation work exactly? And, are you able to write articles about whatever you please, or are you assigned topics to write on?

    Thanks in advance.

    --Wizz--
    Have written articles for iwriter.com since it started back in august 2011. There are 3 levels basic, premium, and the highest level is elite writer.

    Basic level you are paid less and premium you are paid more but less than the elite writers.

    If you write more than 30 articles and if your rating or review given by the article requester is more than 4.6 than you will automatically be an elite writer.

    Becoming an elite writer requires quality content with consistency, if you follow this then achieving this elite level is a piece of cake for sure.

    Requester's will post their requirement in different categories and you can choose any article request to write.
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  • Profile picture of the author savyeman
    Originally Posted by makemoneywizz View Post

    I have heard from a few sources that you are able to get paid to write articles online. To anyone that has experience doing this, how does the compensation work exactly? And, are you able to write articles about whatever you please, or are you assigned topics to write on?

    Thanks in advance.

    --Wizz--
    I notice your post about writing articles. You can use ebay to offer your seo services. And best of all ebay doesn't charge that much for you to list your services.

    You can offer services on ebay....
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  • Profile picture of the author smartiewriter
    There are many freelance writing jobs available online. I have hired several writers through Odesk.com

    But you may have to take a few jobs for very little money at first so that you can build up a reputation. Most employers don't want to hire writers until they have some positive feedback and experience.

    The payment varies from $2 for a 500 word article to around $20. It just depends on your experience, if you're a native writer, and if what pay you're willing to take.

    Hope that helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
    Here's a little tip.... something I used to do when I was a ghostwriter...

    Get on Google and search for web designers and SEO companies. Visit a few each day and send a message through their contact form or email address offering your services to their clients. Tell them they can mark up your fee if they want to earn a little as the middle man (which will get you more responses, trust me). They can even keep the customer as their own and just outsource it all to you. That way the designer or SEO company gets to add value to their services, make a little profit, and do none of the work. Everybody wins.

    The key to this is having samples of your best work at the ready, so do that first on a blog you set up for that purpose. Testimonials are important too, if you have any or can work to get a few before you try this.

    Cast a wide net. Make contacting a few of them per day part of your routine. Be the squeaky wheel. It might take a while but you'll land some gigs this way.

    Best of all, hardly any of your competitors will think of trying this unless they read this thread

    And if you're genuinely a good writer and you meet your deadlines consistently, do not be afraid to charge a good rate. That's a common mistake good writers just getting into this business make. Charge more - but work harder to get the jobs.

    John
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    • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      Here's a little tip.... something I used to do when I was a ghostwriter...

      Get on Google and search for web designers and SEO companies. Visit a few each day and send a message through their contact form or email address offering your services to their clients. Tell them they can mark up your fee if they want to earn a little as the middle man (which will get you more responses, trust me). They can even keep the customer as their own and just outsource it all to you. That way the designer or SEO company gets to add value to their services, make a little profit, and do none of the work. Everybody wins.

      The key to this is having samples of your best work at the ready, so do that first on a blog you set up for that purpose. Testimonials are important too, if you have any or can work to get a few before you try this.

      Cast a wide net. Make contacting a few of them per day part of your routine. Be the squeaky wheel. It might take a while but you'll land some gigs this way.

      Best of all, hardly any of your competitors will think of trying this unless they read this thread

      And if you're genuinely a good writer and you meet your deadlines consistently, do not be afraid to charge a good rate. That's a common mistake good writers just getting into this business make. Charge more - but work harder to get the jobs.

      John

      Thanks for the post John. Some good advice in there.

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    • Profile picture of the author TiffanyLambert
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

      Here's a little tip.... something I used to do when I was a ghostwriter...

      Get on Google and search for web designers and SEO companies. Visit a few each day and send a message through their contact form or email address offering your services to their clients. Tell them they can mark up your fee if they want to earn a little as the middle man (which will get you more responses, trust me). They can even keep the customer as their own and just outsource it all to you. That way the designer or SEO company gets to add value to their services, make a little profit, and do none of the work. Everybody wins.

      John
      John that was excellent - I'm sending my GWC students over here to read your reply. I actually used to get contacted by the people you mention all the time, asking me if they could outsource their clients' writing to me and then mark it up and be the middle men. I declined at the time because I was maxed out and their volume was HUGE - but if I'd just been starting out, ka-ching!

      Great tip!
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      • Profile picture of the author Zeus66
        Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

        John that was excellent - I'm sending my GWC students over here to read your reply. I actually used to get contacted by the people you mention all the time, asking me if they could outsource their clients' writing to me and then mark it up and be the middle men. I declined at the time because I was maxed out and their volume was HUGE - but if I'd just been starting out, ka-ching!

        Great tip!
        Thanks, Tiff. I got desperate at the time and was just trying everything that popped into my head to drum up business. It's amazing the ideas you can come up with when the bills have to be paid and you only have yourself to rely on.

        The other cool thing about doing this (contacting SEO and web design co's for writing jobs) is that their customers are often from the offline world. Some of those people don't bat an eye at paying $25 and up for good article-length writing.

        John
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        • Profile picture of the author LadyZelda
          Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

          Thanks, Tiff. I got desperate at the time and was just trying everything that popped into my head to drum up business. It's amazing the ideas you can come up with when the bills have to be paid and you only have yourself to rely on.

          The other cool thing about doing this (contacting SEO and web design co's for writing jobs) is that their customers are often from the offline world. Some of those people don't bat an eye at paying $25 and up for good article-length writing.

          John

          I think this is a wonderful tip and i will be testing it out myself. I am actually one of Tiffany's GWC students and recently my client list has dwindled.

          My bills are staring me in the face and i don't just rely on myself but people rely on me too (luckily it isn't in the form of a child as yet).

          I tried a lot of things from crappy content mills to freelancing sites to Warrior Ads and so far no bites so your method is certainly worth a try.

          Racquel.
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          • Profile picture of the author hhhusted
            Rachel,

            I was in your boat the last three months. No income at all. Finally, my girlfriend, who is Catholic, did some novenas for me and now I have three projects. The month of April and May is booked. I'm just looking at what I can do to get work after May. But at least the work is now coming in. I'm not stating religion here, I'm just saying that with the grace of the Almighty on my side, I was able to get work. I hope this comment does not offend those who are non-religious.
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            • Profile picture of the author LadyZelda
              Originally Posted by hhhusted View Post

              Rachel,

              I was in your boat the last three months. No income at all. Finally, my girlfriend, who is Catholic, did some novenas for me and now I have three projects. The month of April and May is booked. I'm just looking at what I can do to get work after May. But at least the work is now coming in. I'm not stating religion here, I'm just saying that with the grace of the Almighty on my side, I was able to get work. I hope this comment does not offend those who are non-religious.
              AMEN

              Personally I am not offended. I though not a Christian do pray and go to church from time to time. So i believe your statement that the Almighty will provide. That is provided that you actually put in the work as well
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          • Profile picture of the author Jennifer Koebele
            Originally Posted by LadyZelda View Post

            I think this is a wonderful tip and i will be testing it out myself. I am actually one of Tiffany's GWC students and recently my client list has dwindled.

            My bills are staring me in the face and i don't just rely on myself but people rely on me too (luckily it isn't in the form of a child as yet).

            I tried a lot of things from crappy content mills to freelancing sites to Warrior Ads and so far no bites so your method is certainly worth a try.

            Racquel.

            I am in the same situation and I agree- definitely a method worth trying.
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            • Profile picture of the author samjaynz
              You can start off by offering introductory gigs on Fiverr - write a great article for $5 as a loss leader, then move new clients on to more expensive articles.
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              • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
                Originally Posted by samjaynz View Post

                You can start off by offering introductory gigs on Fiverr - write a great article for $5 as a loss leader, then move new clients on to more expensive articles.
                Good idea. It would be a waste to write garbage articles as the first ones you ever write, since nobody is going to be interested in having you write for them.

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          • Profile picture of the author mariauniverse
            Hey Guys I want to learn GW learn whilst you earn can anyone advice me on this please...money is tight but I am willing to try... I would love your feedback.......:confused:
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            • Profile picture of the author hhhusted
              Maria: I've been writing professionally for 20 years and specialize in e-book creation. I'm still learning how to market myself.
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              • Profile picture of the author celente
                Originally Posted by hhhusted View Post

                Maria: I've been writing professionally for 20 years and specialize in e-book creation. I'm still learning how to market myself.
                well I would say do not act like a $2 dollar tramp, and you will not get the cheap clients.

                Go and find the bigger clients who want say 50 articles a month and who have the capital to pay you larger.

                Then you need less clients, and get paid more.

                I know a guy in california doing this for a tech company and making 4k a month and he hardly does the work. It is outsourced all. He has about 3 bigger clients.

                Learn to work smarter, not harder.
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      • Profile picture of the author reclark
        Originally Posted by TiffanyDow View Post

        John that was excellent - I'm sending my GWC students over here to read your reply. I actually used to get contacted by the people you mention all the time, asking me if they could outsource their clients' writing to me and then mark it up and be the middle men. I declined at the time because I was maxed out and their volume was HUGE - but if I'd just been starting out, ka-ching!

        Great tip!
        I am one of Tiffany's, also. This gives me inspiration and hope. Thanks for the posts
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    • Profile picture of the author hhhusted
      Thank you John. Your post was very encouraging, inspiring, and helpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author ymest
      Hey Zeus,

      This is a really amazing idea! Will get down to it this very minute! Thanks for this great tip! Very much appreciated!

      Regards,

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    • Profile picture of the author Onora Oz
      Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post


      And if you're genuinely a good writer and you meet your deadlines consistently, do not be afraid to charge a good rate. That's a common mistake good writers just getting into this business make. Charge more - but work harder to get the jobs.

      John
      I almost missed your reply in this thread. Thanks Tiffany for emailing this.
      I loved reading every word of your tip. Very inspiring, and instructive. I used to do the same in my local market. One of the best methods.

      And about the part I'm quoting... I know many writers who are very confused about the pricing thing. I know a few that I want to encourage so they'd charge what they deserve.

      I know why the low rates in the market today. Not everyone is a writer, but everyone thinks they can write. Seems like they've been continously educated to think like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    Don't listen to anyone trying to fill your head with get rich quick ideas of selling spun garbage content. You might be able to fool someone once into paying for that junk, but they will never use you again and your reputation will be ruined.

    There are plenty of ways to go about writing articles. I generally find writers when I'm in need on sites like Guru, Freelancer or elance.
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    • Profile picture of the author GamerDiehard
      purchase article carefully because you might end up with spun article and you don't even know unless your blog get penalized!
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      • Profile picture of the author John Coutts
        Originally Posted by GamerDiehard View Post

        purchase article carefully because you might end up with spun article and you don't even know unless your blog get penalized!
        Trust me, if you end up with a spun article, you'll know! It will be unintelligible crap and very easy to spot.

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        • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
          Originally Posted by makemoneywizz View Post

          I have heard from a few sources that you are able to get paid to write articles online. To anyone that has experience doing this, how does the compensation work exactly? And, are you able to write articles about whatever you please, or are you assigned topics to write on?

          Thanks in advance.

          --Wizz--
          Let me just start by saying the best thing I ever did for my business was create a website specific to my writing. I use a few marketing methods for my site, but the ability to funnel traffic to my site helps me gain orders regularly.

          My advice, treat it like a business and consistently market your business. You cannot just count on other websites that source out writing jobs as you have no idea how long they will be around. I only use these types of sites to fill in down time, which I don't have much of anymore.


          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          You start charging people for spun articles and you will find your reputation ruined real fast. A REAL writer doesn't do anything of the sort. While many writers start as low as one cent a word - writers with excellent skills can make very good money. If you start out spinning articles, you will never get past the cent per word category, and you might not even be able to keep in the running for peanuts for too long.

          Decide if you want to be a real writer -- or if you're going to listen to advice about how to spin, plagiarize, and otherwise ruin yourself.
          AGREE 100% spinning is garbage and if I bought a spun article I would post I would never go back to that service again and I would tell everybody I could what happened.

          Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

          I wouldn't spend a dime on a spinning software. Usually the website will hire you to write on a specific topic. After wage is addressed, your job is then to come up with a well-written, and well optimized article that the website wants you to write about.
          Spinning software is one of the worst things that ever happened to the content industry.

          Originally Posted by Usmile View Post

          I've heard this stuff on sites that offer freelance works like article writing and some other site that pay you to write content. It doesn't pay you that much but it can be a good sideline. The last time I learned about the compensation is $2-$3 for 500 words article.
          This is garbage....Don't every work for rates this low unless you can really live off of a couple dollars. Think about it this way, if it takes you an hour two write two 500 word articles, you are not even making minimum wage at this rate.

          Originally Posted by ashloren View Post

          Try one of these:

          zerys.com (or interactmedia.com)
          textbroker.com
          fiverr.com
          Fiverr sucks because the rate is $5 and if you are writing more than 200 words for that rate, you are not making the money you should make. Textbroker.com is okay, but they don't have that many good paying gigs.

          Originally Posted by Zeus66 View Post

          Here's a little tip.... something I used to do when I was a ghostwriter...

          Get on Google and search for web designers and SEO companies. Visit a few each day and send a message through their contact form or email address offering your services to their clients. Tell them they can mark up your fee if they want to earn a little as the middle man (which will get you more responses, trust me). They can even keep the customer as their own and just outsource it all to you. That way the designer or SEO company gets to add value to their services, make a little profit, and do none of the work. Everybody wins.

          The key to this is having samples of your best work at the ready, so do that first on a blog you set up for that purpose. Testimonials are important too, if you have any or can work to get a few before you try this.

          Cast a wide net. Make contacting a few of them per day part of your routine. Be the squeaky wheel. It might take a while but you'll land some gigs this way.

          Best of all, hardly any of your competitors will think of trying this unless they read this thread

          And if you're genuinely a good writer and you meet your deadlines consistently, do not be afraid to charge a good rate. That's a common mistake good writers just getting into this business make. Charge more - but work harder to get the jobs.

          John
          John,

          This is absolutely genius. I do something very similar to this, but because of your post I am making a small adjustment, which I think will really make a difference in my response rate.

          Originally Posted by anauel63 View Post

          I think Iwriter.com would be the best place for you to apply
          Iwriter.com is garbage. At least a dozen clients of my ordered from there, then sent me the articles to fix them because they were written with such poor English they were unreadable.

          Originally Posted by celente View Post

          well I would say do not act like a $2 dollar tramp, and you will not get the cheap clients.

          Go and find the bigger clients who want say 50 articles a month and who have the capital to pay you larger.

          Then you need less clients, and get paid more.

          I know a guy in california doing this for a tech company and making 4k a month and he hardly does the work. It is outsourced all. He has about 3 bigger clients.

          Learn to work smarter, not harder.
          YES, YES, YES, and YES. Writers deserve to get paid more than a few bucks per article considering if the client knows how to use the article they can make hundreds, if not thousands of dollars from that one article.

          Originally Posted by John Coutts View Post

          Trust me, if you end up with a spun article, you'll know! It will be unintelligible crap and very easy to spot.

          John.
          Couldn't agree more!

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    • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
      Originally Posted by Tadresources View Post

      Don't listen to anyone trying to fill your head with get rich quick ideas of selling spun garbage content. You might be able to fool someone once into paying for that junk, but they will never use you again and your reputation will be ruined.

      There are plenty of ways to go about writing articles. I generally find writers when I'm in need on sites like Guru, Freelancer or elance.

      Those are some good sites you listed. I checked out Guru, am going to start using it.

      Thanks for the post.
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  • Profile picture of the author BelindaMooney
    Most of us who make a living writing have started out low and worked up. I have done the Suite101 - Constant-Content thing and even earlier sites. As others have said building repeat clients and clips is the key.

    Another thing I think really helps is to diversify. I write for my own websites and make money through Google and affiliate links, I also have a very successful spinning business (no I don't sell spun versions of articles I do extremely high quality spinning for others), I have ghost written in the past and I also write for print publications on a regular basis.

    When you diversify money streams it really helps especially of one dries up. I was making extremely good money on Suite101 at one point as their Kids Craft writer until they started changing more and more things. I am not longer a fresh content writer for them but still continue to make a certain amount each month on old content.

    I have also self published several books and am looking to start a PLR site after getting Tiffany Dow's PLR course. I already have tons of material from past writing so am hoping this turns out to be a good source of passive income.

    So keep trying, learn the ropes, turn out quality work and you will end up successful. It is often not the best writers that make good money but good ones who are consistent and keep plugging away!

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    • Profile picture of the author hhhusted
      Belinda: When you are a successful spinner, do you use a spinning software program, or do you just re-write the articles. How do you advertise your spinning business?
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        Originally Posted by hhhusted View Post

        Belinda: When you are a successful spinner, do you use a spinning software program, or do you just re-write the articles. How do you advertise your spinning business?
        I do both. I use The Best Spinner and depending on how indepth they want their articles spin the more rewriting I do. The most popular is probably Level 1. I rewrite each sentence 1x then go back and spin words/phrases. I manually go over everything and spin things that are not in the synonym database. That is the key. Quite frankly I am top notch when it comes to spinning because of the manual rewriting I do.

        I advertise here on the WF and I have gotten work on oDesk as well as they fine me. I have a spinning as a skill in my profile there. I use my sig line on here and I have an ad:

        http://www.warriorforum.com/warriors...d-results.html

        Hope that answers your question

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    • Profile picture of the author Victoralexon
      Originally Posted by BelindaMooney View Post

      Most of us who make a living writing have started out low and worked up. I have done the Suite101 - Constant-Content thing and even earlier sites. As others have said building repeat clients and clips is the key.

      Another thing I think really helps is to diversify. I write for my own websites and make money through Google and affiliate links, I also have a very successful spinning business (no I don't sell spun versions of articles I do extremely high quality spinning for others), I have ghost written in the past and I also write for print publications on a regular basis.

      When you diversify money streams it really helps especially of one dries up. I was making extremely good money on Suite101 at one point as their Kids Craft writer until they started changing more and more things. I am not longer a fresh content writer for them but still continue to make a certain amount each month on old content.

      I have also self published several books and am looking to start a PLR site after getting Tiffany Dow's PLR course. I already have tons of material from past writing so am hoping this turns out to be a good source of passive income.

      So keep trying, learn the ropes, turn out quality work and you will end up successful. It is often not the best writers that make good money but good ones who are consistent and keep plugging away!

      Belinda
      Sound advice. Having more than one income stream truly do make you feel secure.
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  • Profile picture of the author anauel63
    I think Iwriter.com would be the best place for you to apply
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    • Profile picture of the author hhhusted
      Anauel: Why would I go to iwriter.com and sign up just to get paid $1.25 an article. That is totally ridiculous. Only amateurs and non-pro writers would do such a thing.

      No thanks. The lowest fee I charge for a 400 word article is $30. Remember, I said lowest, not the actual fee.
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        Originally Posted by hhhusted View Post

        Anauel: Why would I go to iwriter.com and sign up just to get paid $1.25 an article. That is totally ridiculous. Only amateurs and non-pro writers would do such a thing.

        No thanks. The lowest fee I charge for a 400 word article is $30. Remember, I said lowest, not the actual fee.
        Now here is a man/woman who knows what their time is worth. Writers, you need to be able to think like this. Sites like iwriter work out if you are new AND desperate or if your quality is only worth that little (it shouldn't be).
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  • Profile picture of the author MsDebra
    I've been a content writer for more than 3 years. It's been a real struggle to get clients, but this turned around when I found this post at How to Bless Your Business! | Think for Success. My mentor and friend, Rhonda Grice and I began blessing our businesses and we became bombarded with so much work that we had to work 10 and 12 hours a day to keep up and meet deadlines.

    Believe me when I say, God is very concerned about every area of your life. You don't have to set Him on a shelf until Sunday. He affects everything in your life wherever you let Him in. Go check out Lisa Rae Preston's blog and say the blessing for your business daily, especially when you have no clients. I have blessed every business on this post today. You have tried to help Wizz and your business is blessed in return. God rains blessings on the just and the unjust. It works!
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  • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
    Guys the key is to charge what you're worth. If you're confident in your writing skills and you know you know you spit out dar good articles, charge no less than $30. However, if you're not, either charge less (what you feel you're worth) and be proud of it, OR learn what you need to know to feel confident enough to charge at the higher price points.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    Article writing can be extremely enjoyable but it is very hard work. My advice would be to to produce some high quality articles and post them on a number of paid sites, I've created a list here to get you started. Paid Article List
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    • Profile picture of the author absoluteallen
      The way I drum up business is...

      I go after big markets where I know money players want what I have to offer.

      I pull up the trusty Google keyword tool, look at markets I want to write in. From there I research markets by cost per click. I'm not interested in the guy who worked his way up in a niche that advertisers pay $2.00 per click.

      You might say, "hey.. those areas can have superstars in them too making good cash".

      I don't care.

      So lets say I want to write in the fitness niche:

      *Pull up the keyword tool, type in fitness in the category section
      *Select the global monthly searches in Advanced Options
      *Sort by Approximate CPC

      Now I have some good ideas of where I can to persuade site owners they want my services.

      Afterwards I will select relevant keywords, copy them all down in Notepad (I just use Word, no biggie). From there I will Google search, get a feel of the type of information the top 10 websites use.

      Don't forget, competition is good! High powered websites ranked in the top 10 is what I need to study.

      Finally the research is done, notes are taken. Time to approach these extraterrestrials!

      Since I don't have a portfolio by my own website, blog or whatever... I will compete against their current writings on their website. That's my offer, write a piece, show them I know my stuff.

      Or...

      I will go after websites on the second page of the search results, offer them some input of my own about my research on their 1st page competitors then offer them more relevant articles geared to their theme.

      From here the sky is the limit, not really. It's endless

      So hey chump, does this crap work?

      No!

      I just love to write and BS people for the hell of it. I also want to eat popcorn and watch women in bikinis on the beach, so yes it's working.

      This method has scored me a solid 3 hours of work by clients that understood I didn't blindly throw offers at them. It's all about being unique...

      Do the research, understand the market, their competition and roll those offers.

      Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneySavingLisa
    I charge $1.20 per 100 words which comes out to about $6 for a 500 word article. I will charge more for a product review, which is typically $10 per 500 words.

    Originally, I started on Fiverr providing a few services and I did this part time. Once I started really getting into writing, I realized I was actually short changing myself because I was only earning $0.80 per 100 words after Fiverr took their cut. I never realized their was a big demand for english speaking writers until I started.

    Now, I work full time from home writing. I don't get offered to write what I want.. people ask me to write articles for them. Most articles are for niche blogs, and can get boring real fast. However, if you stick with it you can make some good money. I don't make thousands, but I am able to live off my weekly income.

    As I get more experience the next few weeks, I will raise my prices to an actual non-amateur amount of money. But realistically, I'm NEW writing full time and looking for clients.
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    • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
      Originally Posted by MoneySavingLisa View Post

      I charge $1.20 per 100 words which comes out to about $6 for a 500 word article. I will charge more for a product review, which is typically $10 per 500 words.

      Originally, I started on Fiverr providing a few services and I did this part time. Once I started really getting into writing, I realized I was actually short changing myself because I was only earning $0.80 per 100 words after Fiverr took their cut. I never realized their was a big demand for english speaking writers until I started.

      Now, I work full time from home writing. I don't get offered to write what I want.. people ask me to write articles for them. Most articles are for niche blogs, and can get boring real fast. However, if you stick with it you can make some good money. I don't make thousands, but I am able to live off my weekly income.

      As I get more experience the next few weeks, I will raise my prices to an actual non-amateur amount of money. But realistically, I'm NEW writing full time and looking for clients.
      Lisa,

      Do you find you are able to make good money at those rates? It seems to me like it would be tough to write so many unique articles everyday, but it seems like you have a pretty good system going.
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    Go for odesk, it helps you in great way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stoney
    Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you, Makemoney. Fiverr only pays you $4 so writing for them is more of a way to find clients who get to try your service, then pay you more. Because it's so cheap, I had to take my gig offline after just a week. I'm not allowed to offer my service outside of Fiverr, so I can only give my info to the client and let them ask. It's a good way to find clients, though.

    As far as paying the bills, I spend way less working from home than if I had a day job. If I had 10 clients paying me $25 a week, I'd make $1,000 per month, enough to supplement my husband's income and still have time to look amazing when he gets home and have a delightful homemade lasagna baking in the oven! Sweet!
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    • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
      Originally Posted by Stoney View Post

      Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you, Makemoney. Fiverr only pays you $4 so writing for them is more of a way to find clients who get to try your service, then pay you more. Because it's so cheap, I had to take my gig offline after just a week. I'm not allowed to offer my service outside of Fiverr, so I can only give my info to the client and let them ask. It's a good way to find clients, though.

      As far as paying the bills, I spend way less working from home than if I had a day job. If I had 10 clients paying me $25 a week, I'd make $1,000 per month, enough to supplement my husband's income and still have time to look amazing when he gets home and have a delightful homemade lasagna baking in the oven! Sweet!
      Stoney,

      Thanks for the response. Seems as though you have a pretty good thing going.

      I checked out Fiverr, and it seems as though it would be VERY hard to become distinguished from there. There must be better ways to show people that you could write quality articles.

      --Wizz--
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      • Profile picture of the author Doctor Derp
        Originally Posted by makemoneywizz View Post

        Stoney,

        Thanks for the response. Seems as though you have a pretty good thing going.

        I checked out Fiverr, and it seems as though it would be VERY hard to become distinguished from there. There must be better ways to show people that you could write quality articles.

        --Wizz--
        Oops, wrong answer pal... you need to talk to the guy my bro hired who used to work at Goldman Sachs doing marketing collateral for the big guys.

        He uses Fiverr to pick up clients, then flips them into some BIG paying gigs. (my bro sends him huge paychecks, cause he's damn worth it)
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        • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
          Originally Posted by Doctor Derp View Post

          Oops, wrong answer pal... you need to talk to the guy my bro hired who used to work at Goldman Sachs doing marketing collateral for the big guys.

          He uses Fiverr to pick up clients, then flips them into some BIG paying gigs. (my bro sends him huge paychecks, cause he's damn worth it)

          Wow, that's impressive.

          What selling points did he use on Fiverr to attract big customers like that?
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          • Profile picture of the author Doctor Derp
            Originally Posted by makemoneywizz View Post

            Wow, that's impressive.

            What selling points did he use on Fiverr to attract big customers like that?
            Dude, why the heck are you asking me that? Get on Fiverr, start looking for his gig, BUY his gig and you'll find out how he does it. Go go go!

            It's not that hard, I've done it several times myself, but I never scaled it to the sustainable business that this guy has. I respect him for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author gasman
    Aside from marketing your own services there are several of what are commonly known as "content mills" that you can use such as textbroker and the content authority. There are also higher paying ones if you have good enough writing skills. Also if you want to try using revenue share writing sites, you won't normally get paid upfront but you will make residuals doing it that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author savyeman
    It's possible to make this work on eBay too. Ebay offers a service section on their site. You offer any service you think of seo services, article writing, web 2.0 and most of all in doesn't cost anything to set up a listing at first on ebay. Eventually, you'll have to pay.
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  • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
    I am currently in the process of expanding the content on my online money making website (link is in the signature), so I am looking for people who would like to write a guest article. I will provide a link back to your site at the bottom.

    The articles will be chosen basically on a first come, first serve basis, so don't hesitate to contact me if you are interested. Either post a reply in this thread or send me a pm.

    Be sure to check out the articles that I already have on my site, and see if you could write one that either is on a brand new topic that I have not covered or one that compliments an article that is already there.

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  • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
    Originally Posted by Nixgan View Post

    To write an article and get paid, you either choose which genre you wanna get involved in and focus solely on that, or you just see any offers you like and take them. There are a lot of websites doing this service so you might wanna join one of them. I am writing a blog post about them and you might wanna take a look at it.

    click here to my blog

    Take a look at it soon !

    Hope I helped and good luck to you!

    I checked out your site; that's quite an extensive list. My question is, which of those 20 you recommended would be the best place to get started selling articles that I have written?
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  • Profile picture of the author WorkOnline
    Try to click this; Online Internet Marketing & Search Engine Optimization Forum. They buy articles here and the price depends on the PR of your website. Sometimes they ask you to write and sometimes they ask you to post their very own articles. Ofcourse it depends on the niches that ask ask for.
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    • Profile picture of the author makemoneywizz
      Originally Posted by WorkOnline View Post

      Try to click this; Online Internet Marketing & Search Engine Optimization Forum. They buy articles here and the price depends on the PR of your website. Sometimes they ask you to write and sometimes they ask you to post their very own articles. Ofcourse it depends on the niches that ask ask for.

      Thanks for the tip, I am going to look into it.
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