Automatic Article Submitters

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I'm looking into automatic article submitters to get my articles out to as many directories as possible. Do they work? What sort of experiences have people had with them?

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Julia B View Post

    I'm looking into automatic article submitters to get my articles out to as many directories as possible.
    Please excuse my answering a question with a question, but why, Julia?

    I ask because often, when people want to do this, their plan is to gain something in terms of either backlinks or traffic from multiple article directory submissions. No criticism implied, but if that's the idea, it's based on a slight misunderstanding of how article directories actually work. Possibly posts #2 and #6 of this thread may help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html

    Using article directories for the intended value of their own backlinks is a fallacy, as explained here. And here.

    And no article marketer should want to try to generate their traffic that way, in preference to sending it directly to our own sites, for all the reasons discussed here.
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    • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Please excuse my answering a question with a question, but why, Julia?

      I ask because often, when people want to do this, their plan is to gain something in terms of either backlinks or traffic from multiple article directory submissions. No criticism implied, but if that's the idea, it's based on a slight misunderstanding of how article directories actually work. Possibly posts #2 and #6 of this thread may help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html

      Using article directories for the intended value of their own backlinks is a fallacy, as explained here. And here.

      And no article marketer should want to try to generate their traffic that way, in preference to sending it directly to our own sites, for all the reasons discussed here.
      Wow, that's pretty one sided...

      What happens to that whole fancy wordsmith'ing job you did there when your competition pumps out 50-100 backlinks a day from AD's for 2 months straight, then treats them like parasite's to funnel link juice through them?

      Or.... should we not talk about that....

      Before anyone says it won't work, maybe we should try a live case study to find out

      Is that fair? I think it will work great, and I think that because I know it and do it.

      If you don't feel that is the case, let's do a case study and then see if the feelings are still the same...?

      *NOTE*
      Before stating disgust, make sure you know what a parasite means as well as link juice funnel.
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      • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
        Dang! Things are getting heated in here!

        Originally Posted by godoveryou View Post

        What happens to that whole fancy wordsmith'ing job you did there when your competition pumps out 50-100 backlinks a day from AD's for 2 months straight, then treats them like parasite's to funnel link juice through them?
        I've written articles that have gotten syndicated on dozens of different sites, so you can get 50-100 backlinks from each article, if it's written properly. The sites that are syndicating my stuff are actually relevant to my niche and odds are, the pages are higher than PR 0 (unlike the article directories that aren't considered "relevant" by big G and are PR 0 to boot). When you look at it that way, the quality of my 50-100 links are much better than the 50-100 links my competitor is getting by mass-submitting to random article directories. I win

        And, my stuff is getting out in front of targeted traffic. What are the odds that anyone's actually reading the garbage on those no-name article directories?
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  • Profile picture of the author TestiVar
    Originally Posted by Julia B View Post

    I'm looking into automatic article submitters to get my articles out to as many directories as possible.
    Reputation is everything with an online business.

    You will find that article directories ban bots for quality reasons. Using a bot is therefore a violation of their TOS.

    Spamming isn't a great way to improve your reputation.
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    • Profile picture of the author getano
      I am pretty disappointed by article submitters. You should try UAW (unique article wizard). It's probably the best online service to use for article submitting. The best part of it is that you can set it to submit the articles over a certain period.
      In my opinion, the drip feed part is their most important advantage.
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      • Profile picture of the author TestiVar
        Originally Posted by getano View Post

        In my opinion, the drip feed part is their most important advantage.
        So spamming slowly is OK?
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      • Profile picture of the author Julia B
        Hi Alexa, thanks very much for replying. I've been reading a lot of threads on here since I joined at the weekend and have learned a great deal from your posts - so thanks for that too!

        You're right, I probably haven't quite got my head around how article marketing works. My understanding was that you posted your articles on directories and then site owners/bloggers come along and (hopefully) find them and put them on their site with a link back to your site, thereby increasing traffic to your site and possibly SEO. So I was basically thinking that the more directories I submitted my work to, the more chances/frequency there'd be of my articles getting published by site owners/bloggers, so the more benefits I'd get.

        I have read the posts you directed me to, but I can't really see anything that contradicts the above. Sorry, I know you must get fed up with repeating the same advice to newbies like me, but if you could clarify I'd really appreciate it!


        Originally Posted by TestiVar View Post


        Spamming isn't a great way to improve your reputation.
        Oh no, I certainly don't intend to spam. I was just thinking it would be in the interest of the directories to get as many articles as they could.


        Originally Posted by getano View Post

        I am pretty disappointed by article submitters. You should try UAW (unique article wizard). It's probably the best online service to use for article submitting. The best part of it is that you can set it to submit the articles over a certain period.
        In my opinion, the drip feed part is their most important advantage.
        Thanks Getano. So, in your opinion, are article submitters worth using if they work well?
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Hi Julia,

          Originally Posted by Julia B View Post

          My understanding was that you posted your articles on directories and then site owners/bloggers come along and (hopefully) find them and put them on their site with a link back to your site, thereby increasing traffic to your site and possibly SEO.
          Yes, this is completely right. (And ezine publishers, as well as webmasters, one hopes).

          Originally Posted by Julia B View Post

          So I was basically thinking that the more directories I submitted my work to, the more chances/frequency there'd be of my articles getting published by site owners/bloggers, so the more benefits I'd get.
          Ah, I see ... no, it doesn't work out like this.

          Because there are (literally) thousands of article directories, but there's one huge one, which has been established for more than a decade, and is where all content-seekers "know they need to go" for their content, and that's called Ezine Articles (it was originally intended as a directory of "articles for ezines", but now their stock is intended for both ezines and websites too, of course). And once your article is deposited there, you've probably covered about 99.99% of the opportunities for getting them republished in that way.

          Over the years, I've had many thousands of instances of republication, in this way, and I think all but one have been from Ezine Articles.

          I used to submit to many hundreds of them, at first, in exactly the way you're asking about, using software. When I understood why that was a bad thing to do, and that I couldn't benefit from it, I "cut down" to about 8/9 directories (the ones I thought were "the best ones") and I did that, too, for over a year before realising that even that was a waste of my time and more likely to do harm than good.

          Now I just use Ezine Articles for this purpose. And because I'm anxious about over-dependence on one directory, however professional and well established, I also submit a copy of each article to either GoArticles or ArticleBase too (depending on niche) but I don't benefit from those copies at all (so far) and can't really recommend it.

          (I can always tell reliably from which source a copy has been syndicated because of my little "punctuation trick" described in the ones of the threads you've read, I think).

          What's important is to appreciate that all of this is only passive syndication, and should be an afterthought compared with the active syndication methods described here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794

          And of course for any sort of worthwhile syndication to take place, the articles need to be written for syndication in the first place.

          But it won't help you to use automated mass-submitting software to multiple directories, I'm afraid.

          However well such software works (and my impression, both from when I was using them myself and from what people tell me now, is that they're never very reliable anyway and most of the directories to which they submit don't publish the articles, and even when they do, most of them are never indexed), if the job it does is a job that has no benefits in the first place, it's not worth doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author GAldane
    One of the biggest pitfalls of automated article submission is the way is not seen as 'natural' by the big G. And google penalize the website which does aquire backlinks in a 'artificial' way. It is told several times that quantity does not matter, but still people are running behind the quantity. Sad for them!
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      Hi Julia

      Maybe this article from my own blog will assist in clarifying things for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Julia B
      Originally Posted by TestiVar View Post

      You don't get to decide what is in their best interests...
      Thanks TestiVar. I really want to emphasis that I was not thinking of trying to trick anyone. I just thought it would be an easy way to submit my articles to lots of directories and I thought those directories would want to get my articles. I didn't realise this software is banned. I've very new to all this and am just learning. So, do you believe that article marketing is pretty much a waste of time?


      Originally Posted by contentbiz2000 View Post

      One of the biggest pitfalls of automated article submission is the way is not seen as 'natural' by the big G. And google penalize the website which does aquire backlinks in a 'artificial' way. It is told several times that quantity does not matter, but still people are running behind the quantity. Sad for them!
      Thanks Contentbiz, sounds like I'd better steer well clear!
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      • Profile picture of the author TestiVar
        Originally Posted by Julia B View Post

        So, do you believe that article marketing is pretty much a waste of time?
        No I don't. You won't hear a word about real article marketing on this forum from anyone other than perhaps Ron Douglas (look him up). I'm not even sure he does much article marketing. He seems to prefer TV and radio publicity.

        The signal to noise ratio is about 10,000 to 1 on this forum as it is on many other forums (actually other forums may be worse). That's just the nature of forums.

        To find the signal and separate it from the noise in the forum, I often use the following technique. I ask myself if Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg or any other notable CEO or other officer of any notable company would engage in that activity.

        If not, it is probably because it is either illegal, immoral, unethical or... just plain doesn't work.

        Do you see those people posting to article directories? Nope. Do you see them pitching articles to web-sites via spam? Nope.

        But you do see articles written by them and articles written by others featuring them on web-sites. How did that happen?

        It's called publicity. It is a part of marketing. You can look it up on Wikipedia. Make yourself interviewable. Get a publicist and turn them loose looking for publicity opportunities. And... of course... submit media releases whenever something notable happens in your company.

        That is the proper way to do article marketing. That is the way every major dot com player does article marketing. It works. It's not spam. It's not trying to trick anyone. It's not violating anyone's TOS. It's not spamming articles sites with spam bot software.

        It's publicity. Add some advertising and you have a complete marketing plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author syukranjz
    really ..there are software like article submitter ..but i forgot what the name of software..
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    • Profile picture of the author Julia B
      Alexa - Ah, OK, now I see. Well that's actually really good news, basically I just need to publish to EZA and maybe a couple of others. Thanks so much for the detailed reply. Much appreciated. I'm interested to learn a bit about your background and how you got into IM, by the way, is there a post you could direct me too where you talk about that?

      AnniPot - Thanks, great post. I've bookmarked it for future ref!
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      • Profile picture of the author Julia B
        TestiVar - Hmm, interesting. I've worked as an editor on some quite high profile websites (my background is in journalism) so I understand how all that works. The thing is this, I'm not Bezos or Zuckerberg and the potential for people wanting to interview me is tiny. But I can write great articles - and I know from my own experience that if editors can get hold of quality articles for free they will very happily publish them. So what's wrong with me offering articles I've written to them in return for a link back to my website (which is a quality content website)?
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        • Profile picture of the author TestiVar
          Then you should know better.

          Ron Douglas gets interviews on TV and radio all the time. You wouldn't recognize my name if I published it, but I get articles I've written or interviews published on a fairly regular basis.

          Not every article is about someone famous. That would make for poor journalism and poor entertainment. Someone has to cover the up-coming things. Not everyone can be a copycat.

          Of course you do have to do something notable or remarkable. Ron Douglas (a warrior) created a book of recipes duplicating restaurant recipes.

          Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg weren't just covered because they were famous. They became famous because they were covered.

          That is the job of publicity.

          If you say that what you are doing isn't remarkable or notable, then you are probably right. If you are willing to change the world though, publicity works great.

          It doesn't work for things that are generally spammed though. People who spam don't have anything remarkable or notable to offer or they wouldn't have to spam.

          Originally Posted by Julia B View Post

          TestiVar - Hmm, interesting. I've worked as an editor on some quite high profile websites (my background is in journalism) so I understand how all that works. The thing is this, I'm not Bezos or Zuckerberg and the potential for people wanting to interview me is tiny. But I can write great articles - and I know from my own experience that if editors can get hold of quality articles for free they will very happily publish them. So what's wrong with me offering articles I've written to them in return for a link back to my website (which is a quality content website)?
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          • Profile picture of the author Julia B
            Thanks again TestiVar, but I still don't see what is wrong with sharing my aritcles via an article directory (not spamming, just uploading to a single dir. so they are available to editors should they want to use them) while I'm building up the profile of my site.

            I am still writing articles for magazines and websites who commission me, but I am sharing some of the short pieces I've written for my own website in the hope of increasing traffic the site to help get it off the ground.
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            • Profile picture of the author TestiVar
              Just because there is nothing wrong with something, doesn't mean it works.

              Go do a search through EzineArticles.com for each of the top 1,000 sites. Do you think those site owners are stupid? Why didn't they use EzineArticles? What makes you think that you are so special that it will work for you when it didn't work for a thousand others (exception: EzineArticles itself is a top 1,000 site -- it worked for them).

              Just because something isn't spamming doesn't mean it will work for your business.

              You need to find ways that are legal, moral, ethical AND work -- that isn't an OR. It is an AND.

              Originally Posted by Julia B View Post

              Thanks again TestiVar, but I still don't see what is wrong with sharing my aritcles via an article directory (not spamming, just uploading to a single dir. so they are available to editors should they want to use them) while I'm building up the profile of my site.

              I am still writing articles for magazines and websites who commission me, but I am sharing some of the short pieces I've written for my own website in the hope of increasing traffic the site to help get it off the ground.
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    • Profile picture of the author 1byte
      Originally Posted by syukranjz View Post

      really ..there are software like article submitter ..but i forgot what the name of software..
      Wow, that was sure helpful... :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Julia B
    OK TestiVar, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. You clearly have some strong opinions on this. I appreciate your time.
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  • Profile picture of the author imsirigiri
    There are tons of Automatic Article Submitters online which promise the world, but can't even deliver a single bedroom house. While most of them cost less than $100 and even reputable, they mostly do not do the job as the directories block them on a regular basis. Even though Article submitters tend to work around creating new user-agents, they eventually do not work in the long term.

    I used to use them when I started article marketing but then realized that there is no need of them when a single seed article is eligible to be submitted to multiple article directories.
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  • Profile picture of the author sulli
    Maybe you can try "ksnipe submitter", it can help you submit your article automatically.
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  • Profile picture of the author avtaarsid
    Don't forget ARM ( Article Marketing Robot ) .
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  • Profile picture of the author Cecil Dee
    Originally Posted by Julia B View Post

    I'm looking into automatic article submitters to get my articles out to as many directories as possible. Do they work? What sort of experiences have people had with them?
    I've had experience with Article Marketing robot and it is very good for exactly what you mention above. It allows spin syntax for unique versions of every article submission however I don't think it is mandatory. Even if you follow the logic some other warriors are using in this thread and don't spin articles, you can still get your content out to hundreds in some cases over a thousand directories and blogs with one 20 min. run of AMR.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    I definitely equate automatic article submitters with spam. Backlinks should be quality over quantity and I think that is going to become more and more true in the coming months, judging from all the changes the big G has been making.
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    • Profile picture of the author godoveryou
      Originally Posted by Tadresources View Post

      I definitely equate automatic article submitters with spam. Backlinks should be quality over quantity and I think that is going to become more and more true in the coming months, judging from all the changes the big G has been making.
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  • Profile picture of the author datingworld
    I wouldnt suggest you to distribute your articles to many directories as per my experience it doesnt help neither traffic wise nor backlink ........ put some good articles on your site / blog then spin it a bit and submit to the top best directories such as ezine, article base, go article etc.
    Good Luck with your projects.
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  • Profile picture of the author warrior_money
    You can write a high-quality-unique-content article and submit it to tens of thousands of article directories using ArticleMarketingRobot. Just my 2 cents :p
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  • Profile picture of the author JerrickYeoh
    I been using for article submitter as well but it doesn't work as i expected.
    It do list all those article site but when use it to submit , it probably fail to submit to those popular and high PR site.
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  • Profile picture of the author veheme
    If you simply want directories to give you links then Article Marketing Robot always gets the job done for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Usmile
    I have an experienced with AMR an article robot submitter though it is not working on long-term basis. You are like bombing Google and it degrade your link reputation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anjumbhat
    After the Google Panda update there is no benefit to make low quality links.
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