by WebPen
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I've heard of something lately called "dialup"- have you heard of it?

Does it still work?

I've heard that it lets you start doing IM basically for free. Kinda like... oh, what do you call it... "bum marketing"?
#dead #dialup
  • Profile picture of the author WhiteDove
    It's a service that allows connectivity to the internet through a telephone line.

    By connecting the phone line to the modem in your computer and inserting the other end into the phone jack, and configuring the computer to dial a specific number provided by your internet provider service you're able to access the internet on your computer.

    To get a dial up internet service you must definitely have a computer and even more important a modem.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eduard Stinga
    Wow, haven't heard that word for like 5 years at least. Good old memories
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  • Profile picture of the author SallyJo
    No sh*t, Eduard!

    Last week, I actually heard someone mention "NetZero".

    OMG.. are they still around?

    Do they even make laptops/notebooks with built in modems and the phone connector thingie anymore?
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    • Profile picture of the author Raydal
      Originally Posted by Wootini View Post

      No sh*t, Eduard!

      Last week, I actually heard someone mention "NetZero".

      OMG.. are they still around?

      Do they even make laptops/notebooks with built in modems and the phone connector thingie anymore?
      Think 4G. they have moved on:

      NetZero teams up with Clear to offer free mobile broadband, kind of | Dialed In - CNET Blogs

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    • Profile picture of the author absoluteallen
      Originally Posted by Wootini View Post

      No sh*t, Eduard!

      Last week, I actually heard someone mention "NetZero".

      OMG.. are they still around?


      Do they even make laptops/notebooks with built in modems and the phone connector thingie anymore?
      Yep! They are supposed to be offering free 4G wireless. But like back then, most likely is ad filled.
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  • Profile picture of the author Farish
    Dial up is not dead. There are rural areas where dial up is the only solution to get internet. Dial up now though is a very small percentage of market share vs what it was 10 years ago. At it's peak, aol had over 34 million members on dial up, now it has 3 million. Part of the new internet initiative is to get broadband available to 99 percent of Americans through either mobile or landline. That will probably be realized within the next 5 years or so.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Hmmmmm- so I guess my mockery of all of the "Is article marketing dead?" was not well played.

    But thanks for your replys folks- I didn't realize there were still 3 million people using dial up. That's sad, sad sad.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
      Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post

      Hmmmmm- so I guess my mockery of all of the "Is article marketing dead?" was not well played.

      But thanks for your replys folks- I didn't realize there were still 3 million people using dial up. That's sad, sad sad.
      lol, I understood your joke! Next it will be "Is Breathing Dead?"
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I live in the country with no broadband. First I tried HughesNet. They were garbage so I quit them. Then I tried Earthlink. Served my purpose for awhile, but very slow.

    Then I got a Droid X and tethered it to my computer and it works better than dialup but not as well as broadband. I go into town to the library or Starbucks with my laptop and their Wifi to do any heavy uploading or downloading.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      I have some friends that live way out in the country and they actually use dial-up. They can't believe how fast my computer is when they come over and that I can actually talk on the phone while I'm on it. They are considering moving so they can get high-speed Internet.
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    • Profile picture of the author aaallday2010
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      I live in the country with no broadband. First I tried HughesNet. They were garbage so I quit them. Then I tried Earthlink. Served my purpose for awhile, but very slow.

      Then I got a Droid X and tethered it to my computer and it works better than dialup but not as well as broadband. I go into town to the library or Starbucks with my laptop and their Wifi to do any heavy uploading or downloading.
      You poor thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Man I remember the good old days of dialup- waiting 5 minutes for a website to load.

    If I had to do that now, my brain would explode.

    But I guess if you don't know any better, it wouldn't matter.

    But bottom line- I suppose dialup isnt dead
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  • Profile picture of the author dudeontheweb
    I'm paying 9 bucks a month for a dial up account for when my main connection goes down. But since there are hotspots popping up in my town, the need is not really there anymore, as far as i'm concerned.

    But in the town I live,(rural) there are alot of seniors who still have dial up since it's $9-10 bucks a month and DSL service is close to $60 a month. These are the people who don't really get out to use the library or hotspots due to lack of mobility or transportation. Having the fixed income keeps them in dial up.
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  • I use it on my travels overseas it works.
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  • Profile picture of the author Halcyon
    I don't think dial-up is dead so much as it's in a permanent vegetative state.

    My broadband provider offers dial-up back up that I've used on a couple of occasions.

    Just last spring power storm took out my broadband. While dial-up was verrrrrry slooooow I was able to check email, update my clients and handle a few banking transactions. Dial-up is not preferred but it still has its place.
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    • Profile picture of the author Raydal
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      i started using Dial Up in 1973 as a kid and used it through 2004 (no broadband in Greece until then). For over 30 years it was the only way to fly...broadband is still relatively new in the bigger scheme of things.

      But to answer your question, I still use dial up in emergencies and to connect to a local VPN.

      There was dial-up in 1973? My first dial up account was with
      Compuserve in 1995 on a 2400 baud modem. The next Christmas
      I got a 56K. Those good old days.

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      • Profile picture of the author greenmile
        Overall, dial-up isn't dead, but it is in my world I don't think I could handle using it ever again! Although, if I'm traveling and that's my only choice, I'll just focus on the fact that I'm in some neat location and let the dial-up issue slide.

        Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

        Remember those sounds your modem would make when dialing in? Now it's stuck in my head.
        YES!
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        • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
          Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

          Sure was - using a teletype machine to dial into the the local state college's mainframe. I was just a kid, but that was state of the art back then for online games.
          Yep - I graduated high school in 1973, and I remember right about that time there was a public Telex system in just about every major airport in the world. I think they were - what, 56 baud? :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Remember those sounds your modem would make when dialing in? Now it's stuck in my head.

    I remember my roommate asking me if I'm going to need the phone for the next hour because he was going online. Then he got this new thing called an ISDN line and I was amazed at our new fast internet speeds.
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    • Profile picture of the author LloydC
      Nah it's not dead, you just need to buy my WSO! /sarcasm
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    • Profile picture of the author Cecil Dee
      Yeah I do remember the sound very vividly, Aaahh, awful

      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      Remember those sounds your modem would make when dialing in? Now it's stuck in my head.

      I remember my roommate asking me if I'm going to need the phone for the next hour because he was going online. Then he got this new thing called an ISDN line and I was amazed at our new fast internet speeds.
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        Just in case anyone forgot:

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        • Profile picture of the author absoluteallen
          Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

          Just in case anyone forgot:

          YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
          Lol! I remember that sound, and then.. I'd get booted off. Got to love how call waiting wrecked havoc on my Coolchat fun.

          All I wanted to do was redirect people I didn't like through hostile java to a website of my choice or boot them from the chat room.

          Oh the days with my awesome (not) 200Mhz AMD K6 with... MMX! Woohoo!

          Back then, ISDN was ultra cool if you could afford it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Onora Oz
          Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

          Just in case anyone forgot:

          YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
          Thanks for the nightmare!
          Those were the days, and I'm happy it's over lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
      lol I was just thinking that as I read the OP

      Used to make those weird squeeky noises

      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      Remember those sounds your modem would make when dialing in? Now it's stuck in my head.

      I remember my roommate asking me if I'm going to need the phone for the next hour because he was going online. Then he got this new thing called an ISDN line and I was amazed at our new fast internet speeds.
      Think he was asking a rhetorical question Dianne
      Originally Posted by WhiteDove View Post

      It's a service that allows connectivity to the internet through a telephone line.

      By connecting the phone line to the modem in your computer and inserting the other end into the phone jack, and configuring the computer to dial a specific number provided by your internet provider service you're able to access the internet on your computer.

      To get a dial up internet service you must definitely have a computer and even more important a modem.
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  • Profile picture of the author meldave
    That is the one thing that I remember also is the noise when it was connecting.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    I still keep a dialup account as a backup. I think I maybe use it once a year when cable goes out.
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  • Profile picture of the author erichammer
    Now here's a real question for you: does anyone still use a 300baud modem to connect to their dial up connections? I still remember when those were state of the art and we could laugh at people who were connecting at 100baud...

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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Brian
    I actually thought it's dead like Encarta and the AOL CD.

    Anyway I use 3G as backup.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ducksauce
      Originally Posted by CyberSEO View Post

      Perhaps somewhere in Pakistan or countries like that...

      I Am very well traveled, the bizar thing is that when In Asia, 3G coverage is excellent compared to USA and Canada. I have serious problems getting decent speed when ion the road out side the big centers in America. Also, those countries have a much higher % penetration of cell phone use into the population.

      Dial Up, this is something that the younger folks here will never know about, up there with the milkman, horse and cart, with out stupid law suits, etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author dukestravels1972
    Good times. I remember British Telecom being the ONLY phone provider around back in the late 90's. They charged you up the arse for connecting to dial up internet numbers. I think I was paying at least 30p a minute to be on the net! Not good since I was SEVERELY addicted. Most of my money went on paying phone bills.

    I moved to the states and I was a netzero customer back in about 2000. Used to download MP3's...you know the ones that were touted as CD equivalent at 128 bitrate lol. They banned me for excessive use. I was getting 2.5 kbps download rate. Now we're talking about MAYBE one album if left overnight, about 40mb total. Their service was supposed to be unlimited though. Thats always annoyed me when I see their name anywhere
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      I remember dial up via Compuserve.

      They cut the connection after 2 hours. You had to reconnect. It was impossible to download anything sizable without a download manager which allowed you to resume.

      I remember getting broadband many years later and being amazed by streaming video too.

      It's amazing how we take things for granted!


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      • Profile picture of the author erichammer
        Originally Posted by Daniel Evans View Post

        I remember getting broadband many years later and being amazed by streaming video too.

        It's amazing how we take things for granted!


        Daniel
        Speaking of trips down memory lane, I still remember how incredibly excited I was the first time I saw a postage stamp sized boxy, blocky stream of Fox News channel while I was overseas and using my ISDN connection. It was like "wow!" That is so awesome! Of course, now I regularly use Pandora and Hulu and think nothing of it.

        I also remember the first time I popped an encarta CD into my computer and watched in amazement as I could see a few seconds of grainy video as the first space shuttle lifted off. I thought it couldn't possibly get any better than this...

        Of course, I also remember back when people in computer magazines were asking "who could possibly ever need more than 640K?"

        Thanks for the trip down memory lane folks...now time to go and listen to my streaming net radio on my phone while I work and take for granted the fact that my phone is infinitely more powerful than my first computer, which was a giant beige box.
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          Originally Posted by erichammer View Post

          Speaking of trips down memory lane, I still remember how incredibly excited I was the first time I saw a postage stamp sized boxy, blocky stream of Fox News channel while I was overseas and using my ISDN connection. It was like "wow!" That is so awesome! Of course, now I regularly use Pandora and Hulu and think nothing of it.

          I also remember the first time I popped an encarta CD into my computer and watched in amazement as I could see a few seconds of grainy video as the first space shuttle lifted off. I thought it couldn't possibly get any better than this...

          Of course, I also remember back when people in computer magazines were asking "who could possibly ever need more than 640K?"

          Thanks for the trip down memory lane folks...now time to go and listen to my streaming net radio on my phone while I work and take for granted the fact that my phone is infinitely more powerful than my first computer, which was a giant beige box.
          "640K ought to be enough for anybody."
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
          Originally Posted by erichammer View Post

          I also remember the first time I popped an encarta CD into my computer and watched in amazement as I could see a few seconds of grainy video as the first space shuttle lifted off. I thought it couldn't possibly get any better than this...
          I done the same!

          I only ever used Encarta to see the videos!

          Another video which amazed me. The full length version of Wheezer - Buddy Holly music vid that came with one of the earlier versions of Windows.
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  • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
    NO NO I will never go there again.

    It been forever since we heard of Dialup. It used to take forever to go online I remember paying per hour to connect lol.

    I don't have a landline, using DSL is practically cheaper lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Dialup is incredibly slow. 64k i believe. You're better off with satellite internet like Hughesnet. This is high speed internet via satellite.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      Dialup is incredibly slow. 64k i believe.
      52.8k, actually, owing to the control channel needs. 22 of 24 multiplexed 2,400 bps connections; while there's a theoretical 57,600 bps limit, there needs to be additional information in the channel to manage reassembly. Plus there's a single stop bit in between bytes, so it's actually just short of 47,000 bps which stands for bits per second and actually represents what we would call a "6k" connection speed today. Well, 5.72k, actually.

      Dammit, my telecom background is showing.
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  • Profile picture of the author genuine86
    Lol, folks still use dial up???
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  • Profile picture of the author funkynassau
    I know a man who has dialup simply because he's cheap, not that he cant get high speed. I thought dialup was dead too. I live in a rural area on a farm and everyone around me has DSL. We'd like to move and I've made it clear that I will not move to any place that does not have high speed.
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post

    I've heard of something lately called "dialup"- have you heard of it?

    Does it still work?

    I've heard that it lets you start doing IM basically for free. Kinda like... oh, what do you call it... "bum marketing"?
    Sarcasm noted

    But seriously...

    From 1995 to 2003, I almost EXCLUSIVELY worked on a dial up Internet
    connection.

    For 'security' and backup, I still renew my account - and last week,
    it came in handy. Underground rail construction in my city is tearing
    up a lot of infrastructure - and someone dug up the broadband cables!

    72 hours is how long it took to restore the connectivity - and during
    that time, dial up is all I had access to.

    It CRAWLED.

    But I could get email, and do a few things online.

    What was amazing is:

    * how used we can get to high speed, to the point the 'default'
    of several years becomes "intolerable" and "frustrating"!

    * how evolved the Web has grown, that the sites I use daily
    were not usable AT ALL on dial-up!

    Considering that there's a fair share of prospects forced to use dial
    up (or similarly slow or low speed) access to the Web, it's a real
    worry about how usable our sales websites are to this audience - and
    how an emphasis on video and multi-media selling may be excluding
    an audience that could be profitable to your business.

    Lessons and food for thought from my recent experience.

    Oh, and a couple of days after they fixed our cables, the diggers
    cut them again at another spot - leaving dial up access my lifeline
    for another day, till things were fixed (guess the broadband folks
    gained from the experience, they were faster in restoring service!)

    All success
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Joseph
    Hey Justin,

    Thanks for bring back old memories! A lot of us seem to remember the good ol' dial-up.
    It seems just like yesterday that we were waiting nearly 60 seconds for 1 page to load.

    Well its a good thing it's in the past! However there are still a few people that use it, and I know of many people in other countries that rely on it as their main source.

    That's a scary thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jase1977
    My mom still uses dial-up because she lives out in the country and can't get high-speed at all. I love visiting my mom, but I could never stay out there too long, because the slow speed just drives me crazy. I did grow up with dial-up and it frustrated me to no end. I'm so happy for my DSL now.
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  • Profile picture of the author paul_1
    Dial-up connection is almost extinct nowadays
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
    I partner with an internet service provider (was technical support there and systems administrator back in high school). Their name is Xecu.Net and yes they still offer dial up however DSL is much higher market share for them
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Williams
    I was going to answer this question yesterday but after looking at the posters profile I thought to myself "No this guy can'y be serious"

    I knew there was an angle I just didn't know what it was so I just left it :-)
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      Originally Posted by Oliver Williams View Post

      I was going to answer this question yesterday but after looking at the posters profile I thought to myself "No this guy can'y be serious"

      I knew there was an angle I just didn't know what it was so I just left it :-)
      HA!

      I was surprised when I saw this thread was still going. I seriously had no idea that so many people still use dialup.

      I've been really spoiled since starting college (2003), since my school was in the middle of a huge city and had amazing internet. Ever since then I've always had DSL or cable.
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      • Profile picture of the author Halcyon
        Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post

        HA!

        I was surprised when I saw this thread was still going. I seriously had no idea that so many people still use dialup.

        I've been really spoiled since starting college (2003), since my school was in the middle of a huge city and had amazing internet. Ever since then I've always had DSL or cable.
        Yep, there are quite a few of us old fuddy-duddies still shuffling around. Folks that still use dial-up and talk on landline phones.
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        • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
          Originally Posted by Halcyon View Post

          Yep, there are quite a few of us old fuddy-duddies still shuffling around. Folks that still use dial-up and talk on landline phones.
          Id much prefer (when possible) to talk on a landline phone rather than a mobile.

          Mobiles annoy me. If its not poor signal its low battery.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    I only just got off dialup about a year and a half ago. I lived in a new housing estate and broadband internet wasnt available. We tried wireless but that was worse. Before moving I was on 128k ISDN service which sucked.

    My old computer had an internal 64k modem, running over a single phone line that used to pull about 32k bandwidth (flat out on a good day)

    Believe it or not, I was on dialup from 1997 - 2010 and mustve downloaded about 4,000 mp3's in that time.

    One song used to take about 30 minutes.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeraldNitram
    This suddenly made me remember the sound that the modem makes when you're trying to connect to the Internet. Nostalgic. I don't know if it's "dead." I bet there are still a few that use it, but we're mostly in the broadband, or DSL group now; in the age where a lot of people want results as soon as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author DannyO
    It's very easy to forget that even in America, there are areas in which dial up is still used.

    As a website owner, it's a "tough" compromise between loading speed and design when adding new images and graphics. I look at that dial up loading time and think...I'm glad I'm not on dial up!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohit Anand
    Dial-up used to be a pain in ass when downloading wallpapers of my favorite celebrities. Still I had over 5K of them.. A feat much appreciated by my college mates..
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  • Profile picture of the author NoviIM
    I still remember the dial up tone when signing on to America Online...lol
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    LOL! Those were fun days, waiting for pages to load and someone was always complaining about the phone.
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    What is dial-up
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
    Now I remember my manual 9600 BAUD modem connected to my Apple IIe as I would get the latest and greatest stuff late at night connecting to ASCII Express sites...*sigh* Memories!
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Man this is awesome- actually bringing back a lot more stories of dial up than I ever thought I'd remember.

    The 2 main things I remember are

    1) Trying to get into Amazon.com, then walking away for a few minutes so it'd have time to load.

    2) Playing Diablo on Battle.net over dialup.... my family and friends could NEVER get ahold of us over the phone (since it was before everyone had mobile)

    Good times!
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      Hey Justin, your thread took an unexpected detour, lol! But wow, haven't had dial-up in years and don't miss it! In fact, I'm sure I'd have severe brain injury by now if I still did, from banging my head against the wall waiting for things to load. Ugh....that was painful, although at the time it was the norm!

      Christophe - Thanks for posting that YouTube video - I'd totally forgotten that sound!

      Sooooooooooooo grateful to have high speed internet!! If nothing else, this thread reminded me of how grateful I need to be for something that I take for granted far too often!

      P.S. BIG Mike - you were certainly a kid way ahead of his time to even know about dial-up back then; I had no idea it existed back in the 70s!
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  • Profile picture of the author TiffanyVee
    My MIL lives in Alabama and had dial up until the end of 2012 when she got a Verizon MiFi card. There is no high speed internet option for her unless she uses a satellite. LOTS of rural areas (even in the US) still rely on dial up as the main internet access.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
    I am sure in some countries, many internet users are connection to the net using dial up connections. Some users still don't have ADSL internet.
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    Wow .... dialup has been dead in my world for a long time, we're lucky in the UK since broadband is available in many places. I'd go nuts if I had to go back to using a modem, sympathy for anybody who has to deal with slow intenet.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Varnava
    I was speaking to a random person the other day and I was telling him some websites to visit and some services to try online (as a solution to something he was looking for), and the services I told him are 'heavy' usage (what isn't these days) and require broadband. Obviously that's a given these days that if someone has internet, they have broadband (or so I thought). Long story short, it turned out he still has dial-up at home and wasn't fully aware of what broadband is, nor is he interested in spending 'extra' money to get broadband. I explained to him why he needs broadband to take advantage of the things I just told him about, gave him a quick rundown on how it works and rough costs, and went on my way.

    I was kind of shocked to say the least, as I really thought dial-up was out of the equation now, but apparently it is not!

    And this is in NYC, not a "rural" area.
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  • Profile picture of the author IncomePitbull
    lmao dialup...... If I lived where the only option was dialup, I would move... period... The internet just isn't the same when you gotta wait 30 seconds for 1 page to load, or 30 minutes to download a 15MB internet marketing file.. No skype... No watching leaked IM video tutorials that are 50-100MB... damn, that would suck!

    If you are on dialup, move.
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