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Hi Everyone,

I'm pretty new here - have been lurking on and off for a while, and made a few posts here and there - and this is my first thread.

I've got an authority niche site that I've built up over the last couple of years. Right at the moment I'm on the threshold of $1000/month. In line with the idea that what got you to this point isn't what's going to get you to the next point, I'm wondering if anyone has any advice for getting to the next level - say, $2K/month.

Right at the moment I don't have an autoresponder and I haven't been building a list up to this point. I plan to put both of these additions into effect within the next month (even though my site is for a product that is basically a one-time solution for a one-time problem). But other than that, just wondering if some of the people here who have already gone down this road and are actually making $2K/month or more have any advice to give.

One caveat: I'm happy to hear everyone's opinions, but if you aren't already actually making the money, then please indicate as much in your post.

Thanks!
#$1k #going to the next level
  • Profile picture of the author ryanman
    If you have an authority site and are only making $1000/month then it's very under utilized. But then, it would also depend on the type of niche your website caters to as well. A list will definitely help but it will be hard to give any tips until I know what industry/niche your website is in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sushiman1111
    Fitness/Health. I have a site that tells you how to get rid of long-term tendon pain.

    www dot targettendonitis dot com if you want to check it out.

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Whats the theme of your website, and are you building up a list, or just sending people to your affiliate link, or content page with adsense on it?
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  • Profile picture of the author RonLeroy
    I think you need to choose the right topic for your site. Some topics have high payed ads. Try promote site about healthcare or shopping.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dann Vicker
    Two things are going to double your sales: Increase Content and stick up a pop-up opt-in form on your pages.

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    • Profile picture of the author Daryl Green
      Customers may be 1 time buyers of your treatment programme but they might go on to buy other related products ie sports and fitness, weight control, bodybuilding, supplements etc

      PPC to increase visitor numbers?assuming you aren't already doing that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sushiman1111
        I have my own ebook that I wrote (I actually am an expert on tendon pain), so nothing on the site is affiliate. I tried some PPC but couldn't make it work. But I don't know much about that end of things, so I'm sure that if I bought a course or something that was good it might still be an option.

        I've had the best luck with a feeder site that I set up, and also with raising my prices, which was a shocker for me. I started selling just the ebook for $19.97 and my best month was about $700. In February I added some video content and raised the price to $29.97; since then both Feb and Mar have been right at $1K.

        I don't have any ads or anything on the site now, and am hesitant to put any in there because I feel like it might mitigate the "serious" authority tone that I've established so far. But I do plan to put an opt-in and start building my list. Although my clients are from all over the map (young, old, fit, fat, male, female, countries all over the world, etc.), I do think that some fitness products might appeal to a good portion of my clients. A la Dann's suggestion, do you guys think that a pop-up works better than a regular opt-in on the right side?

        Really appreciate all the suggestions thus far.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Alex Nordach View Post

    I'm wondering if anyone has any advice for getting to the next level - say, $2K/month.

    Right at the moment I don't have an autoresponder and I haven't been building a list up to this point.
    You've answered your own question, and quite correctly, there, I think.

    Promoting a one-off product for a one-off situation isn't a reason not to build lists, form relationships with subscribers and establish trust. Even for a single product with no upsells, that can significantly increase conversion rates.

    Originally Posted by Alex Nordach View Post

    I don't have any ads or anything on the site now, and am hesitant to put any in there because I feel like it might mitigate the "serious" authority tone that I've established so far.
    One perhaps shouldn't "advise without seeing", but that certainly sounds right, to me. Don't start adding things that help people to leave your site, rather than staying there?

    Originally Posted by Alex Nordach View Post

    do you guys think that a pop-up works better than a regular opt-in on the right side?
    No, I think it works worse. I think you may build a bigger list with one, but are likely to earn less money that way, in the long run.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post4985800
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  • Profile picture of the author ChadOath
    Would you mind linking the site or PMing me so I can give a detailed critique?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sushiman1111
      Originally Posted by ChadOath View Post

      Would you mind linking the site or PMing me so I can give a detailed critique?
      Thanks, Chad. The URL is www dot targettendonitis dot com. If you'd take the time to do a critique, I'd be very appreciative.



      Hicksdelight, as far as ranking for the keyword "tendonitis" goes, I've been mainly trying for longer-tail keywords. "Tendonitis" itself has seemed like too tough of a target, considering that places like Johns-Hopkins and the Mayo clinic rank for that word. I'm on about page five of Google at the moment, and have been climbing slowly, but probably don't know enough about SEO to really optimize things for that word. But, from your post it seems like it might just be a matter of getting enough links? I've been doing some article marketing/spinning, but am worried that the service I use only generates PR 0 links, and so might actually be a minus after a while.
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      • Profile picture of the author hicksdelight
        Originally Posted by Alex Nordach View Post

        Thanks, Chad. The URL is www dot targettendonitis dot com. If you'd take the time to do a critique, I'd be very appreciative.



        Hicksdelight, as far as ranking for the keyword "tendonitis" goes, I've been mainly trying for longer-tail keywords. "Tendonitis" itself has seemed like too tough of a target, considering that places like Johns-Hopkins and the Mayo clinic rank for that word. I'm on about page five of Google at the moment, and have been climbing slowly, but probably don't know enough about SEO to really optimize things for that word. But, from your post it seems like it might just be a matter of getting enough links? I've been doing some article marketing/spinning, but am worried that the service I use only generates PR 0 links, and so might actually be a minus after a while.
        Going by Niche Finder score, which was on lower moderate level, it didn't seem overly hard, and if you're ranking on page 5 right now I would defo do some more backlinking, you won't get #1 but even bottom of page 1 is better than page 5.

        As I said only 3 domains on first page has tons of backlinks, the other ones have a beatable amount, but they are from authority domains so not sure how that counts in that regard, but if you havent targeted that keyword and you're on page 5, give it a go by targeting it, won't do any harm.

        As for PR, I tend to look at how relevent the site linking to me is rather than PR, also listening to Matt Cutts videos (He works for Google), article marketingis going out and on page content is king now with Panda.

        I'm not an expert or anything, but just giving an opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author hicksdelight
    If you want to go above it and only want to sell the e-book then only option is to raise the price again, or get double hits you currently get to try and double the revenue.

    I assume you are targetting keyword 'tendonitis', I couldnt see you on Google on first few pages for that term so maybe an option is to do more SEO work to bring more targeted hits in.

    Accroding to my niche finder the term 'tendonitis' has a score of 46 which isn't too bad and average amount of links on first page is 86, but their are 3 domans on first page with loads of links and wiki is number one, but certainly possible to get somewhere on first page, and that will only help as I didnt see your site on first 3 pages.

    Other option is to put another revenue stream on the site, you might find people buy both services. Doesn't seem like too many people advertising on adsense for it, though, so maybe stay away from adsense.

    What about making a long 2 hour video where you offer your advice, a lot of people might buy a video rather then a book and you can offer much more for that as well, and its more personal, and you can say you can offer advice for 30 days after purchase or something.

    Dunno if thats good or bad idea, but its an idea
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  • Profile picture of the author stevenfabian
    I think building a list is equally important whether you offer several things or only one. As other have said, it increases conversions. And later when you find other related products that are worthy of your promotion, or you create another great product yourself, you WILL have a lot of interested buyers right then. And don't worry about having lots of age groups in your list. There's one thing in common in all of them and that's what matters only: They are interested in your offer.

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  • Profile picture of the author mrmcd
    Hi Alex!
    Just to save you a couple of years, I would recommend no matter what niche or market your in, start building a niche. It doesnt take much to figure what that niche would want to be subscribed to. Things like Adsense can be great revenue, but you firstly want to get them on your list, after that, use your autoresponder to send them offers automatically.
    If you just write a new article into your autoresponder each day, you can quickly build up your list that automatically generates income.

    One thing, don't be afraid to send offers to your list, just make some useful reviews on products that offer affiliate commissions.

    I have a niche site I know nothing of, that almost accidentally started generating 500 unitque visitors a day. I slapped an optin form on the main page, and now I get people optin to my list every day, about 50 a day. And each day, I write a new autoresponder series, a review related to the topic, with a check this out link, and emails are going out every day to hundreds of people promoting offers automatically.
    Hope that helps! Then you can start looking at generating 1k a day, instead of 1k a month (which is actually what I thought the title of this thread was!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    Three suggestions -

    - Build a list
    - Build a list
    - Build a list

    I hope you are at least capturing the name/email details of your buyers and staying in touch with them a couple of times and week including selling them related products?

    If not, start doing that NOW.

    Break your product down into modules and take one of them and make it into a freebie and autoresponder course. Then you can focus on selling the optin on your site and selling the product in the follow up (although the sales page should also be an OTO after optin).

    Find/create a related product and upsell it the moment they buy the first product. *DO NOT* position this product as being required to get value out of the first but do make it very clear they will achieve bigger, better, faster results if they take it.

    Anyone that opts in but doesn't buy within the first 7 days (you should mail daily in this period) start sending them related affiliate offers or anything else you can find. Adswap this section of your list. Do whatever you can to extract value from it as they very unlikely to buy.

    Set up affiliate offers on your download page and arrange for other people (at least the ones you've done it for) to do the same for you.

    That should keep you going for a while and will easily double your earnings on a site like this.

    Cheers,

    Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author hernalian
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    congratulation and good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Onora Oz
    You can promote Amazon products such tendon supports or wrist supports to your audience. If you don't want to promote affiliate products on your website, then you can put your links into a short report and give it to your customers when they buy your book.

    If you are an authority figure in this niche, you can contact with manufacturers and ask if they'd like to advertise on your site.

    Also, I agree 100% with others who say you should build your list and promote related items to them.
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    • Profile picture of the author hicksdelight
      Originally Posted by Onora Oz View Post

      You can promote Amazon products such tendon supports or wrist supports to your audience. If you don't want to promote affiliate products on your website, then you can put your links into a short report and give it to your customers when they buy your book.

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      Like that idea, offer more products with the e-book download.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sushiman1111
    So, I'm sensing that I should maybe build a list...?

    :rolleyes::p

    Okay, message received. A list will be built! Thanks, everyone, and I'll report back when I've doubled my money from here.
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    • Profile picture of the author hicksdelight
      Originally Posted by Alex Nordach View Post

      So, I'm sensing that I should maybe build a list...?

      :rolleyes::p

      Okay, message received. A list will be built! Thanks, everyone, and I'll report back when I've doubled my money from here.
      I would also try and get on first page of Google at least, shouldn't be too hard and that will only help getting more targeted traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrmcd
      Originally Posted by Alex Nordach View Post

      So, I'm sensing that I should maybe build a list...?

      :rolleyes::p

      Okay, message received. A list will be built! Thanks, everyone, and I'll report back when I've doubled my money from here.
      And make sure you do it, otherwise you'll be kicking yourself a couple of years from now. Many people agree that they need a list, but very few get lazer focused on doing it! I get about 100 new subscribers on my list everyday, and never pay for any traffic. Anyone can do this!
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