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Money Is In The List, You Can't Be Serious

by nrupen
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Dear Warriors,
I see everyone on forum always bragging about money is in the list. I just wanna clear, its not true for everyone. In some way list building and maintaining it is one of the method to make money and every method is not for everyone.

I know a big and responsive list can give you unimaginable results but not everyone can become successful with list building. When I started I also tried to run behind list building.

I bought several good courses on list building and I also applied them but due to some reason I never made any sale for 7 months. It grew it, was responsive but I never made any sale. And I can guarantee there are several newbies here who are trying to make money with help of list since 2-3 years but haven't got any success.

List building is good to make big money but after failing on it for 7 months I don't think its for everyone. After 7 months I tried other methods and finally found success with Amazon. 2 years later fast forward I am full time affiliate marketer, I don't make big money as several others may claim but I work as an amazon affiliate full time.

Autoresponder services are expensive so once you reach 1000 - 2000 subscribers mark without making a single sale then I think its time to switch. I may try list building again in future but I am sticking to what is working for me now.

As a final advise for those who are trying to build list for more than 7-8 months and have several subscribers but had got no sales. Its time to think for alternative, try your hands on list building later. Because the money you'll save on autoresponder service today, can be further used for investing.

Have a nice day.
Nrupen Masram

Update :
Thanks for replies guys, I never said I am giving up on list building but at present I am concentrating on what is working for me. For those who asked for details about my email marketing campaign following are details. I selected muscle building as my niche for building list,

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  • Profile picture of the author Josh880
    Sorry to hear about your situation.

    However, I must say that ideally, anyone who want's to make a good income online SHOULD find a way to make money off of their own subscribers. Affiliate marketing is great, but their is no better feeling than having your own customers who pay for your stuff.

    I happen to think that anyone who has started building a list of subscribers who hasn't yet turned them in to customers has done something wrong. Either they haven't done a good job with the product they created or they have done a bad job interacting with the potential customer.

    A lot of people fail at making the most out of their list because they don't have a plan of action. They think that once they create something and set up a squeeze page money will just fall out the other end.

    There is a lot of work that goes into creating a lucrative list.

    You have to plan out EVERY step you are going to take your subscribers from point A to point B, and what information and products you are going to introduce them to and how. Having a plan of action is really the key that most people seem to miss when going about this.

    If you are thinking about list building the only REAL way to succeed is to:

    1) have a product that people REALLY need and that solves a problem
    2) build a relationship with the prospect that makes them like and trust you
    3) show them proof that it works and that it will REALLY bring them results
    4) Sell them

    If you do this the right way, I don't see how you can go wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author stevenfabian
      Originally Posted by Josh880 View Post

      Sorry to hear about your situation.

      However, I must say that ideally, anyone who want's to make a good income online SHOULD find a way to make money off of their own subscribers. Affiliate marketing is great, but their is no better feeling than having your own customers who pay for your stuff.

      I happen to think that anyone who has started building a list of subscribers who hasn't yet turned them in to customers has done something wrong. Either they haven't done a good job with the product they created or they have done a bad job interacting with the potential customer.

      A lot of people fail at making the most out of their list because they don't have a plan of action. They think that once they create something and set up a squeeze page money will just fall out the other end.

      There is a lot of work that goes into creating a lucrative list.

      You have to plan out EVERY step you are going to take your subscribers from point A to point B, and what information and products you are going to introduce them to and how. Having a plan of action is really the key that most people seem to miss when going about this.

      If you are thinking about list building the only REAL way to succeed is to:

      1) have a product that people REALLY need and that solves a problem
      2) build a relationship with the prospect that makes them like and trust you
      3) show them proof that it works and that it will REALLY bring them results
      4) Sell them

      If you do this the right way, I don't see how you can go wrong.
      Yes, and actually having a list helps BIG TIME when it comes to affiliate marketing as well. You can sell multiple times to the same audience which can convert crazy. Just pay attention not to over-promote or spam them and you should be fine. And if you have a list that never buys, why is that good for other than entertainment maybe?
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  • Profile picture of the author davidshaw1
    moral of the story here is that the right way to make money is the way that fits in with your personality and inherent skills. Some people have the gift of the gab, some people are awesome copywriters. These people will do well with lists. Still others are good at creating websites that make people want to buy a product. They are good affiliate marketers. Play to your strengths and don't let anyone tell you to do otherwise just because it worked for them
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  • Profile picture of the author lisakleinweber
    I made money for many, many years solely on organic search engine traffic and some great affiliate programs, plus adsense. No list. Now that I have a list, my conversion rate for the affiliate programs is about tripled though. I prefer with a list - however, for amazon sales, a list doesn't always make sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author MattCatania
    Originally Posted by nrupen View Post

    Dear Warriors,
    I see everyone on forum always bragging about money is in the list. I just wanna clear, its not true for everyone. In some way list building and maintaining it is one of the method to make money and every method is not for everyone.

    I know a big and responsive list can give you unimaginable results but not everyone can become successful with list building. When I started I also tried to run behind list building.

    I bought several good courses on list building and I also applied them but due to some reason I never made any sale for 7 months. It grew it, was responsive but I never made any sale. And I can guarantee there are several newbies here who are trying to make money with help of list since 2-3 years but haven't got any success.

    List building is good to make big money but after failing on it for 7 months I don't think its for everyone. After 7 months I tried other methods and finally found success with Amazon. 2 years later fast forward I am full time affiliate marketer, I don't make big money as several others may claim but I work as an amazon affiliate full time.

    Autoresponder services are expensive so once you reach 1000 - 2000 subscribers mark without making a single sale then I think its time to switch. I may try list building again in future but I am sticking to what is working for me now.

    As a final advise for those who are trying to build list for more than 7-8 months and have several subscribers but had got no sales. Its time to think for alternative, try your hands on list building later. Because the money you'll save on autoresponder service today, can be further used for investing.

    Have a nice day.
    Nrupen Masram
    There might be quite a few reasons as to why you didn't make any sales from your AR list - these may or may not include:

    - Obtaining (or lack of) high-quality, pre-targeted traffic
    - Your skills in effective pre-selling
    - Your ability to display expertise in a given niche and build TRUST with your subscribers.
    - Choosing a product that is well-suited to your niche
    - Having a product priced too high
    - Sales page was unsatisfactory
    - Not giving away the farm (in terms of information)
    - Not prominently displaying a refund guarantee
    and more...
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  • Profile picture of the author Bundberg
    Originally Posted by nrupen View Post

    It grew it, was responsive but I never made any sale.
    Hi, how do you know your list was responsive if you did not make any sale? Wondering if you had a niche that is hard to monetize or you just attracted freebie seekers and did not include paid offer on thank you page? Would like to read more details so that other people can read how not to do.

    Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author nrupen
      Originally Posted by StarT View Post

      Hi, how do you know your list was responsive if you did not make any sale? Wondering if you had a niche that is hard to monetize or you just attracted freebie seekers and did not include paid offer on thank you page? Would like to read more details so that other people can read how not to do.

      Thanks!
      I used to check my Aweber status for details about how many use to open and how many times links got clicked. I completely agree that I may have attracted just freebie seekers. If you need details I will update my post with every detail I applied while building list.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    look I am not going to blabber on here..

    I struggled online, all until someone told me to get off my ass and build a list.

    Once I did that my whole outlook and business and financial situation changed.

    That was the single biggest thing that transformed me, and the one thing I have never regret doing.

    Get good at copy, and get them to trust you, and you will never look back.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Hi nrupen.

      Well done for making it with Amazon.

      The reason it's good to have a list and to always try and create one, even on Amazon sites, is because you then have an asset.

      Say a big algorithm change came and you lost all your rankings (assuming that where all your traffic is from). You'd have no more traffic. With a list, you'd still have a business.

      Autoresponder services are expensive so once you reach 1000 - 2000 subscribers mark without making a single sale then I think its time to switch.
      I disagree. I think it's time to learn how to write converting emails properly. Why go through the effort of building as list, then giving up because you haven't figured out how to sell to these people?

      As a final advise for those who are trying to build list for more than 7-8 months and have several subscribers but had got no sales. Its time to think for alternative
      Like how to write emails that can sell?

      Don't get me wrong, you can build lists with freebies seekers that never buy. I have one list I get regular subscribers to but they just don't want to buy. I now realise it's a market I don't have the skills to sell to, it doesn't mean someone else can't though.

      I'm glad you've found Amazon success but just because you didn't succeed at it (list building), doesn't mean it's not a good idea to keep trying to figure it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author esk
    I've made around 200 sales with a list of 700 people.
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  • Profile picture of the author Toby Couchman
    Failure is good. Its how we learn and grow as humans. But here's the thing. You need to be able to asses what you did wrong and how you can improve on it. Get out of the mindset of "that will never work for me" and get into the mindset of "how can improve on where I went wrong".

    Here's a tip;

    Did you survey your list to find out what their concerns/problems were? Or did you just spam them with constant affiliate offers?

    I think you need to treat your list as your close circle of friends. Meaning you need to build a relationship with them. This way you can make alot of money from a very small list IF they trust and respect your opinion.

    For example in my offline biz. I have less than 50 clients but they bring in a revenue of around 100k a year for me. Not bad for a pretty small list right?

    Hope that helped it in anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author theebookcavern
    I've been in the same boat as you nrupen. My list for my fitness site gets between 1-5 subscribers a day and is currently on 1,300+ but getting them to actually buy stuff is a challenge. The last time I did a hard sell to that list was back in December and I think I got 4 sales.

    I think the problem I made with that list and a mistake that many people make when they say building a list doesn't work is that they don't offer any products or hard sells to their subscribers early on. The subscribers then get comfortable with all the free information and when you eventually make your offer, they're resistant to it because you've given been giving them free stuff for so long.

    I can see from your files that you don't make your first offer till 12 days into the sequence. Have you tried moving this forward and seeing if it has an impact?

    Also there's a guy called Rusty Moore who has a really successful product called Visual Impact Muscle Building. A large part of his strategy is getting people to subscribe to his free email course and then upselling them Visual Impact Muscle Building. I'd recommend you subscribe to that, see how he does it then adjust your email followup sequence accordingly.

    Hope this helps,

    Tom
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    • Profile picture of the author nrupen
      Originally Posted by theebookcavern View Post

      I've been in the same boat as you Nrupen. My list for my fitness site gets between 1-5 subscribers a day and is currently on 1,300+ but getting them to actually buy stuff is a challenge. The last time I did a hard sell to that list was back in December and I think I got 4 sales.

      I think the problem I made with that list and a mistake that many people make when they say building a list doesn't work is that they don't offer any products or hard sells to their subscribers early on. The subscribers then get comfortable with all the free information and when you eventually make your offer, they're resistant to it because you've given been giving them free stuff for so long.

      I can see from your files that you don't make your first offer till 12 days into the sequence. Have you tried moving this forward and seeing if it has an impact?

      Also there's a guy called Rusty Moore who has a really successful product called Visual Impact Muscle Building. A large part of his strategy is getting people to subscribe to his free email course and then upselling them Visual Impact Muscle Building. I'd recommend you subscribe to that, see how he does it then adjust your email followup sequence accordingly.

      Hope this helps,

      Tom
      Ya I tried changing sequence many times I also tried selling effort on very first day and 8th day. By the way things are lot different now, I promote Amazon products now and I make good income with it.
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    We're not all good cooks. Good drivers. Good farmers. Or good coders. Thats why we need to adapt and target what we're good at, just like everything else in life.

    OP, if things haven't worked for you, just change pace and focus on what is making you money. But please, don't start crying List building doesn't work.
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    • Profile picture of the author nrupen
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      We're not all good cooks. Good drivers. Good farmers. Or good coders. Thats why we need to adapt and target what we're good at, just like everything else in life.

      OP, if things haven't worked for you, just change pace and focus on what is making you money. But please, don't start crying List building doesn't work.
      I Fernando that's what exactly I mean, I was never good with list building and hence I switched to Amazon. I never said list building doesn't work, I said it didn't work for me. I may someday try with list building again but for now am happy to continue with Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Haestoe
    What you need to do is, be prolific; don't be afraid to give, someone who has just downloaded your free stuff, tips about another offer. That's not sleazy; it's common sense! If you did the same, if you downloaded something that seems awesome, wouldn't it be possible that you wanted a video that described/elaborated on that same thing?
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  • Profile picture of the author stan07
    From what I have gleaned so far have you looked at your traffic method as when doing solo ads it is more tightly focused even with the freebie front end. The other thing is traffic will always convert from the developed countries much better as I found out to my cost previously. All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinW
    List building, not just for IM, but for any business, is one of the most important things you can do. It builds value for your business. There are ways to cut your costs but even spending money on aweber, hosting, etc it should still provide a great ROI.
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    Listbuilding works for me!

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  • Profile picture of the author makingiants
    One way to get your list to be more responsive and to buy more from
    you is to actually ask them for what they need or want to see.

    Put an email like that in your autoresponder sequence early on after
    they optin and join the list; once you find out what that is, give it to
    them and make some real sales.

    hope this helps.
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    It works for the make money online/ I,M junk. Real biz...it's not so lucrative.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Money Is In The List, You Can't Be Serious
      If there is no money in your list, then it is quite possible you built the wrong list. And yes - this is highly possible to do.

      The only other thought is that you have not yet properly figured out how to get them to open their pockets.
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    • Profile picture of the author KevinW
      Originally Posted by sloanjim View Post

      It works for the make money online/ I,M junk. Real biz...it's not so lucrative.
      Disagree strongly!

      More businesses, especially small businesses, should learn how to use email marketing and list building. In the late 90's, I owned a bar. One of the best things I did was build an email marketing list from customers. We used this list to promote our business especially special events. It made a ton of money for me.

      I think it's one of the best investments ANY business can make. How can you go wrong investing in building a marketing list of customers for your business? The cost is very small, and no matter what product/service you sell, it will pay off for you if you do it right.
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  • Profile picture of the author WriterWahm
    If there's one thing I've learnt on this forum, it's that if you build a list of freebie seekers, you're going to get just that: FREEBIE SEEKERS.

    No matter how hard you try, they're not going to dig into their pockets.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by azzizzy View Post

      I have a question concerning list building is there a way to set up your own autoresponder or to buy one in this way saving the monthly cost of a autoresponder?
      There is, but if you ever plan on having a large sizable list it is not recommended.

      When you listbuild on your own server, you have to be very aware of the can-spam act. Server issues in maintaining that list properly can cause all kinds of havoc.
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    • Profile picture of the author bobby_shahzad
      Azzizzy,

      Yes you can, all you need is a software like PHPList , host it on your site and start usng it as self hosted autoresponder. For more help PM me.

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      I have a question concerning list building is there a way to set up your own autoresponder or to buy one in this way saving the monthly cost of a autoresponder?
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      • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
        I made money with no list and quite a bit of it. The fact is, however, that I like having a list much better. I like to know that I have subscribers. It just brings me a little piece of mind. Everyone does this business differently and you should do what works for you.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Seriously, I can't think of any reason or any viable niche where building a list would not provide a very substantial advantage. Your best customers are most likely the ones who have purchased from you before.

        Nearly all of my affiliate sales, (including Amazon, Clickbank, etc) are repeat buyers directly from email promotions of my niche lists.

        Results from list-building is particularly dramatic in highly competitive markets, where relationships alone can often be the deciding factor in big-ticket purchases.

        Especially as affiliate marketers, you are leaving a fortune on the table by not building lists from your buyers and actively promoting additional relevant products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    I'd be interested in hearing about what niche your list was in.

    I also had some similar issues with list building and getting freebie seekers all the time. I started this thread because of it:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...bcriberss.html

    I tend to think people are better off with a list of targeted low ticket buyers rather than freebie seeking subscribers. After all, cheap attracts cheap, so my mindset is if the person can't choose to make a 2 dollar sale up front to get a product and get on your list, they aren't worth your time.

    You should post more info on the thread. Maybe someone will say something worthwhile.
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    • Profile picture of the author James.N
      Originally Posted by Cataclysm1987 View Post

      I'd be interested in hearing about what niche your list was in.

      I also had some similar issues with list building and getting freebie seekers all the time. I started this thread because of it:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...bcriberss.html

      I tend to think people are better off with a list of targeted low ticket buyers rather than freebie seeking subscribers. After all, cheap attracts cheap, so my mindset is if the person can't choose to make a 2 dollar sale up front to get a product and get on your list, they aren't worth your time.

      You should post more info on the thread. Maybe someone will say something worthwhile.
      I was thinking the same thing. I've had trouble with certain lists before if I offer a free ebook. I think more times than not people just sign up for the free ebook because they have nothing to lose, worst case scenario they just unsubscribe to the list. I've done it plenty of times...I sign up for a list just to see what the report or ebook was all about, but I wasnt necessarily interested in the topic.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Brock
        I can guarantee you that building a list is the most profitable thing you can EVER do in a business.

        It's taken me a while to realize this, and it's so simple, but here's what you need to understand:

        A list is so much more than having a bunch of addresses on an email list. It doesn't even have to be an email list. A brand, say Coca-Cola, in a way, is a list. Maybe you can't contact those people through an imaginable thing such as a brand, but it's still a list of people who are interested in something specific.

        Also, here's some food for thought:

        Let's say you want to sell a copy of Microsoft Windows 7 and you had to choose from a list of 10,000 people who pirate software vs. a list of 10,000 people who are known to purchase software, which do you think will most likely work better?
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
    Originally Posted by nrupen View Post

    Autoresponder services are expensive so once you reach 1000 - 2000 subscribers mark without making a single sale then I think its time to switch.
    I think it's time to maybe review how you are attracting your opt-ins and the products you are offering (and how you are offering them) and your email titles because it seems unreal, if not impossible to fail to hit a single sale from a list of 1-2k subs.

    Daniel
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  • Profile picture of the author Dann Vicker
    Your traffic matters a lot. It's almost imaginable you couldn't make a sale from a list of 1000-2000.

    Fact is, most wannabees are doing it the wrong way and following a lot of wrong advice that do not work squat.

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  • Profile picture of the author gojiberryman
    Listen here nrupen, list building truly is the way to go. You just have to go about it the correct way. First of all when you are building a list, you have to treat your subscribers like people and not just another dollar to be made.

    What I mean by this is that in order to start seeing a truck load of sales, you would need to be building a huge list that has learned to trust you over time. You also need to consider that it will take time before you start to see any kind of results.

    Simply allow your subscribers learn to trust you by skipping the sales pitch and offer them free and useful information for 3 to 6 months. After you have done this while at the same time building your list, you can make quite a fortune off of your first sales pitch.

    Remember, these people will have already learned that they can trust you so now they will be much more reluctant to buy from you more often. I hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author diger
    Which usually comes first? The chicken or the egg? The list or the OPTIN list of prospects obtained from advertising? I don't see how there can be any question here. Because proceeding from the prospect list you will automatically have the other "list" and it will all happen MUCH faster.
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  • Profile picture of the author harrymcclaire
    I would say its how individuals do it.

    If an SEO guy earns his money from SEO, he will say " the money is in SEO"

    If its a PPC guy "the money is in media buying"

    If its a list building guy "the money is in the list"

    If he is into stock market "the money is in the bull !" lol.

    But is how this individuals do it that make the money come in.
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    • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
      Originally Posted by harrymcclaire View Post

      I would say its how individuals do it.

      If an SEO guy earns his money from SEO, he will say " the money is in SEO"

      If its a PPC guy "the money is in media buying"

      If its a list building guy "the money is in the list"

      If he is into stock market "the money is in the bull !" lol.

      But is how this individuals do it that make the money come in.
      And all of the people you have mentioned a leaving money on the table if they don't work on building a list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ridgway
    Nrupen, If you've found something that works for you.... KEEP DOING IT. Don't fall into the "Lemming" trap and follow what others tell you. Most of the others just regurgitate what they're told and what they've heard.

    If you've found something that works for you..... you're ahead of 75% of the people who would like to offer you advice about how you "should" be running your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author HelpingYouBeAnExpert
    The money is not in the list, the money is in the relationship with your list. Good relationship good money, bad relationship... (you get the idea).
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    if you have got to 1000 - 2000 subscribers in your auto-responder account and still not made a sale you are doing something seriously seriously wrong

    those of us who are successful with list building dont learn it overnight and we have made mistakes in the past as well

    if your not making any sales from your list building efforts then there are a number of things that you must be doing drastically wrong

    remember before you can start selling any products you have to stamp a little bit of authority within the niche that you are in so that your prospects feel like they will be getting some value from your product

    if no one knows you then they wont trust you, if they dont trust you then they wont buy didly squat from you

    list building is awesome and i love it but there is a learning process the same with anything

    having a list when you release new products is very powerful and it also gives you lots of leverage which other methods dont give you

    i was online 2 years before i started building a list properly so dont beat yourself about it, as long as you keep learning you will at some point put all the pieces of the jig saw together and you will work out exactly how to build your lists effectively

    hope this gives you something to think about

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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    I have to admit reading this thread is a bit discouraging since I'm barely starting to build my list.

    While I haven't built my list yet (waiting on my squeeze page first), I can already see the massive potential that list building has over all of the other methods I tried, and trust me, I've tried nearly everything and made a tiny bit of cash.
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  • Profile picture of the author kursat
    In some niches, I am going to agree that a list might not work as well.

    However for IM, a list is a must. Even if you are not promoting anything to your list, you have a data base of potential customers. When the time is right, offer them something that they will benefit from. Don't give people junk as they are not stupid.

    Most quality IM related lists have one think in common - valuable information that saves time for readers.

    So the plan should be ;

    ...Research what is popular in the market
    ...Offer solutions to common problems
    and only pre-sell top quality products that you personally use daily.
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    • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
      Originally Posted by kursat View Post

      In some niches, I am going to agree that a list might not work as well.

      ...
      Like what for example? In what would having a list not work?
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  • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
    Originally Posted by nrupen View Post

    ...It grew it, was responsive but I never made any sale...
    If you didn't make any sales then the list wasn't responsive.

    Ok, so have looked at your materials - not in detail though.

    Here is the deal:

    1) How many of the people know who you are? I guess none of them. So they feel no emotional connection to you - therefore they won't buy.

    2) Have you exchanged emails/talked to anyone on your list?

    3) I look an email no. 11. It's weak. No specifics, nothing that someone could put into action immediately.

    If that's the type of stuff your send out then you need to step up your game.

    4) It looks like you are just trying to "push buttons". You need to get to know your list - plus the cheap PLR stuff - that's not gonna fly in 2012
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    • Profile picture of the author absoluteallen
      You would be surprised as a freelance writer how I convince clients how to market my articles using my "system".

      Of course they have to be on my mailing list.

      But...

      I don't even have a blog or a website.

      Does it work? Yes, it's very targeted so I don't need 1,000's of bulk traffic from outside sources to do the job.

      I'm doing it KGB style.

      Is it working? Sure is, believe it or not.

      If not, doesn't hurt my bottom line any
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Carl
    nrupen, I completely agree with you that list building is not for everyone. There are so many ways to make money on the internet, and list building is not even close to being a part of every one of them.

    Just a quick question though, did you create Amazon product review sites/blogs? I am just curious about what method you used to make Amazon affiliate sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author nrupen
      Originally Posted by Brendan Carl View Post

      nrupen, I completely agree with you that list building is not for everyone. There are so many ways to make money on the internet, and list building is not even close to being a part of every one of them.

      Just a quick question though, did you create Amazon product review sites/blogs? I am just curious about what method you used to make Amazon affiliate sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    I've met 7 figure marketers that didn't do email marketing.

    The thing is- I think the chances of hitting it really big are much better if you're building up a list.

    Almost any businessman (or woman) will tell you that it's easier to keep a previous/existing customer than to acquire new ones.
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    I certainly have a long way to go to improve my list building/communicating/sales skills. But, if a site receives traffic, it's worth attracting subscribers from it.

    If your site generates your bread and butter, continue working on your site, but dedicate some time each week to improve your list building skills. This is what I do. I earn FAR more straight off my websites than my lists (which total a little over 3,000 subscribers in 3 niches). However, each week I dedicate about 10 hours to building the list and improving the e-mail sequences and creating products (including building a buyers' list).

    In time, list building skills will improve. My first affiliate websites were spectacular disasters. Had I quit then I wouldn't have the revenue I do now.

    I think part of the problem, at least for me, is thinking list building and communicating effectively with subscribers is easy. It's not for many people, but it can be learned. Just as it took me trial and error to create profitable websites, so too is it trial and error to become an effective e-mail marketer.
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    I'll add that the clincher for me to dedicate time and resources to e-mail marketing is it's leveraging your website. The traffic is already there. That's the hard part. You might as well leverage that traffic to create another asset.
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  • Profile picture of the author smartiewriter
    I think it's true. There are a lot of variables to list making. You really need to connect with your subscribers and provide them with good content in order to capitalize on your conversions.
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