That's NOT A Review Mate!

by goindeep

Posted: 11 years ago 38 replies

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Firstly, i'd like to warn you that this is a bit of a rant.

Secondly this has absolutely 100% nothing to do with my sig. In fact DO not even look there or click it. Seriously.

Im slightly p***ed off at the fact that we have such a massive community of intelligent people who share and help one another out yet we seem to think that someone saying "Yeah man, your product rocks, it read like apple pie sliding down my throat!" is a 'review'.

That is not a review.

What I would like to see from peoples reviews is ONE thing and ONE thing only.

ROI, MONEY, RETURN, PROFIT, CAPITAL, MOOLAH, DENIRO, CHA-CHING, SHILLINGS... You get what im delivering right? Results is what I think we all want to be the basis of the review. Please tell me if i'm wrong.

Yes I want to know what the pre-sales service was like, yes I want to know what the after sales support was like, yes I want to know if I need google translate to decipher the emails im going to get from the seller, and yes I dont mind a bit of opinion on my review so long as its kept to a minimum.

But..

Im sick to death of reading peoples reviews of both WSO's and other I.M. products going on about how well the product creator wrote the product and how they should be nominated for an academy award and what not.

I personally do not care how nice the seller was or how well the software logo design was. I mean are we losing our minds here or what people?

Pleas tell me i'm mentally deranged (you know you want to).

Just to make something clear. If you are going to review a product on this forum, please for baby Jesus's sake tell us if the product did what it was supposed to do and if not why. Thats all. If you want to add more, knock yourself out. But please remember the bare minimum.

Example: SUPER INSANE WSO FILLS YOUR POCKETS WITH MOUNTAINS OF CASH

Correct Review Example: Yes! It filled my pockets with mountains of cash, I think I need to see a chiropractor. I got my mountains of cash within 3 business days just like the product description said I would. I got my magic cash machine in the mail within a week and I began filling my pockets with mountains of money after the first hour. Pablo the tech support dude was awesome he didnt tell me im mentally ill even though I had him do everything for me p.s. Jerry the product creator should be nominated for an academy award. p.p.s. I really like him.

Incorrect Review Example: Wow! Jerry your product was so great that I had to go to the toilet 3 times and I didnt even drink anything! Not even Coke! Jerry you are so fantastic, I want to introduce you to my friend Jane. She is really cute and she also likes really good WSO's like your one.

Andrei

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Norfolk 11 years ago

Wow, you're a funny guy

Anyway, yes, reviews saying "I got the money" woulod be great, but 9 out of 10 times people read a WSO and don't implement it. They either leave the review because they had a review copy, or they're buoyed up by the info and want to reward the creator with leaving a positive review. Most people don't make money, and if they do, they forget to go back to the thread and say so. That's human nature.
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- goindeep 11 years ago
  
  Yeah I know, but still, its annoying.
  
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Oliver Williams 11 years ago

That was quite entertaining,

yeah it can be hard to squeeze any cold hard facts out of people around here sometimes.
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- goindeep 11 years ago
  
  Its like watching one of those late night ab-dominator 5000 PRO UNIVERSE ads and having the fat guy going "yeah I really love the design, its so trendy and sleek, like a really well designed German car, only its under my bed".
  
  Yeah but what did it do for the slab of fat on your front section bro?
  
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mrshowcase 11 years ago

i have to say that was some funny stuff right there lol.. but sir its all about filling the pockets man. filing the pockets man. no one is going to leave a review of that kind of detail
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- JohnMcCabe 11 years ago
  
  How's this?
  
  Not only did reading this rant save me $632.43 (US) by keeping me out of the WSO forum for a few minutes, the ranter has a cute kid in his lap so you just know he's telling you straight. I mean, who would lie in front of their kid, right?
  
  Maybe you'd prefer the fake screen shots and phony affiliate check graphics? Those would have your ROI/results 'proof'.
  
  At least the so-called reviews that set you off are easy to identify as worthless...
  
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Paul Hancox 11 years ago

Probably why this doesn't happen more often is simply because people buy too many WSOs

They buy SHINY WSO, promising to make them $38,642 within 49 hours (with a 1 hour lunch break)... and then when they actually end up making $0.06, they move on to GLEAMING WSO which of course offers them much more.

They're too busy chasing the next shiny WSO to worry about posting RESULTS!

Also, possibly because they never got the same RESULTS that the product creator got...
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George Wright 11 years ago

OK, here ya go.

I've had thousands of dollars worth of WSOs over the years all the way back to the uni-sol forum and...

Collectively I've made all of my money back because of them and I've made ROIs to the tune of 1,000s%

I've bought WSOs that were total scams and unscammed them and made Hundreds of dollars and I've bought WSOs that were written in such bad English that I had to decode them and I've made a ton of money from them.

Long story short (too late) I've never bought a WSO that didn't help me in my IM efforts.

I've never bought a WSO that Worked. However, when I work the WSO I make money every time.

Hows that?

George Wright
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Micah Medina 11 years ago

You should be able to get a good determination if a WSO is going to provide ROI by asking yourself if the information being presented is relevant for you and your business. If the sales page can't help you ascertain that, don't buy it. If it promises one thing and delivers something else, get refunded.

"WSO Writer is great and I want him to date my mom" isn't much of a proper review, but if you need to be spoonfed with "Invested 5 dollars from this WSO, implemented it, made 12 grand" then you aren't being a proper entrepreneur.
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travlinguy 11 years ago

You obviously spent some time writing this post out. I'm just wondering what you expected to accomplish with it. Seriously. There are far better ways to spend your time.
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genuine86 11 years ago

I fully agree. I sometimes think that some reviewers are given incentives by the product creator.
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Cataclysm1987 11 years ago

Sadly I don't think I'll ever have the time to implement a WSO. It takes weeks to see results.

Which is why most people just read through it, provide a review and leave. Hard to do anything about it really.
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Micah Medina 11 years ago

Eric are you... terminal or something?
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sloanjim 11 years ago

I did notice aLL WSOS had the usual "great material, great support, nice person" ring to them not one ever said "yep I made $25 million Like Advertised in his $5 W.S.O."
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sloanjim 11 years ago

Hold the Press! Shock horror. Surely this can't go on..NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I fully agree. I sometimes think that some reviewers are given incentives by the product creator.
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sloanjim 11 years ago

Sure Paul,,never anytihng to do with what is actually being taught though.

Selelrs will (have) come to defend their income) Did you expect anytihng else?

What about al lthe WSO's about how to create WSO's you know nothing about? THAT'S GREAT!
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- fluffythewondercat 11 years ago
  
  If you are going to review a product on this forum, please for baby Jesus's sake tell us if the product did what it was supposed to do and if not why.
  
  That was worth the price of admission.
  
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puneetas3 11 years ago

Wow, that was funny. You talked like an artist who wants great admirers. Only few will review in terms of stats like money, ROI, but most others won't even bother to come back. and you should be happy with that, that less of the people are coming back saying your product didn't worked or what a crap it is.

You must be happy with your satisfied customers.
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Lanx 11 years ago

lol warriors that stroke the ego of a wso are either getting/got a free review or are getting a stroke on their wso in return.
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makingiants 11 years ago

Great and funny stuff.
Most reviews come from folks who only take a cursory
glance at the product and shoot out a quick review. While
this is not the review that potential sellers want, it's what
many reviewers usually give.

If one wants a product review, he/she should make it clear
what they're looking for: a product test AND review.

Tell product testers/reviewers that you want them to test and
reveal their results to you first, then you can include it in your
product's salesletter.

THAT's a review that drives sales.

Vince aka makingiants
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- PattC 11 years ago
  
  I think it's important to offer some praise to the seller. They're making sales, they must be doing something right. You can make it short and sweet.
  
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  Sandra Martinez 11 years ago
  
  It would be great to have reviews with substance. BUT, I don´t think it´s gonna happen.
  
  Most of those reviews are given in exchange of a free or discounted copy, both the buyer and the seller want to take it out of the way fast.
  
  If I pay full price for something and I made it work and made money, why I am going to go back and leave feedback? The What´s in it for me? principle fails.
  
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gojiberryman 11 years ago

I totally agree with you Andrei. A review should in fact consist of results based on how well the product works. I have been seeing a lot of that lately myself and it doesn't make any sense to me either.
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harrymcclaire 11 years ago

I totally understand.

Thats why i dont buy into stuff that has general reviews, even if everyone is saying "wow great job, this is a must buy if you are into XXXX bla bla bla"
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sbucciarel Banned 11 years ago

All those fluff reviews .... I look at them with a skepticism. I want to know if the product does what it says it does. Good post. Totally agree.
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- goindeep 11 years ago
  
  @ JohnMcabe, yes she is cute and she started walking just yesterday, thanks for that... she says shes going to launch her first WSO at midnight tonight its going to be kalled "How The Baby Axe Murdered Google".
  
  @ Paul Hancox, totally 100% agree
  
  @ George Wright, yeah but thats because you are rilly smrt and your name is George, my dads name is George and so is my Little brothers. My dad is rilly smrt too but my little brother is 23 years old and he still sleeps in until 1pm and smokes pot all night.
  
  @ travlinguy, I actually wrote it over ten minutes while sipping a glass of Black Douglas. Dont wonder on it too much.
  
  @ makingiants, yeah I agree, I mean if I where asking for review copies i'd wanna make sure that the reviewers actually reviewed the product and put it into action otherwise its a FAIL in my eyes.
  
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  absoluteallen 11 years ago
  
  Just kind of wondering when the customer had to have a teleprompter to make a review?
  
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  goindeep 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by absoluteallen
  
  Just kind of wondering when the customer had to have a teleprompter to make a review?
  
  Hah! Exactly!
  
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CDarklock 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu

That is not a review.

Yes, it is.

Results is what I think we all want to be the basis of the review. Please tell me if i'm wrong.

You are wrong. That is a testimonial.

Do you know why you don't see things like this?

Because when you buy a WSO and make thousands of dollars, you think it's because you are so awesome, not because of the WSO.

But when you buy a WSO and don't make anything, you think it's because the WSO sucked, not because you are a dumbass.

Furthermore, the average WSO takes a month or more to deliver anything significant, and you have bought a dozen other WSOs that have hopelessly contaminated whatever you were doing.

So the day your big commission cheque comes in, guess who gets the credit?

The wrong WSO.

People think things that happen at or around the same time are related. So if you write a bunch of Kindle books, then work your way through eight or nine different ways to promote them, and the last one you did was PPC ads on Facebook - chances are you're going to go rave about how great that WSO about PPC ads on Facebook was.

But you're not going to dig into your stats, figure out which promotion mechanism worked best, and hunt down the WSO for that product so you can give a testimonial about it.

And at the root of it all, you wouldn't have anything to promote if you didn't write all those Kindle books in the first place, would you? But you're not going there - after all, it's the promotion that made you the money.

Besides, the real hero of this story isn't some WSO, it's you. You're the one who bought those WSOs and turned them into a business model and did all the work. All those WSOs sucked, and you're going to make your own WSO that's better than all of them.

And that's why the only positive reviews you get are from people saying "I loved it. It was much better than Cats. I did it again and again."
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WriterWahm 11 years ago

Oh my! This was the funniest thread I've read all week. No, I have nothing to contribute to it, except I think the OP should be nominated for an Academy award.
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dadamson 11 years ago

HAHAHA it's so true!

I have begun to outline different things people should include in their review if they decide to leave them.

As I run an SEO service, things like Price, Support, Ranking Achievements, ROI, etc all need their own paragraph explaining each component of our service.

This actually encourages users to write a detailed analysis of my products and services rather than one-liners which do not help my business.
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Michael_Le

Banned 11 years ago

dont forget this one..

"i bought all #####'s products before, so i know this one will rock, if your on the fence i suggest you go get it, #### always puts out good products and this is no exception, i always buy ####'s products without reading the sales letter"

i call these GURU roadies, the type that flood the WSO's of certain gurus giving so called feedback when they havent even tried the product.

i'm sure you lot have come across one or 2 or even a few

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WriterWahm

11 years ago

Well, 'Adsense Guru in the making' I assume you will soon be collection your own fair share of roadies.:p

Originally Posted by Michael_Le

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goindeep

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael_Le

"Guru Roadies" Classic.

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The A 11 years ago

man, you shot it right to the core. I'm practically sick too looking at how numerous folks here are only trying to sell each other WSOs by giving funny reviews like you described above. I wonder if those giving the reviews really read or put in use the info written in the WSO
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goindeep

11 years ago

Originally Posted by opp2012

I love this sort of rant well done andrei ,by the way i think your so right , im actually smiling whilst i am writing this because i crack up giggling every time i see one of those B.S wso,s ,Hey at least you have that little cutie to keep you company when you work , Andrei she is delish , catch you soon

In no way did I upload an image of myself with a cute baby to fool everyone. Trust me, my Mrs is a vegetarian.

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SARahman 11 years ago

I agree with Andrie upon that but never have I seen one review or testimony stating the ROI. All I read is "author is awesome", "they are genius", "I buy their products cause they really rock!"

Certain reviews when put out for a product, honestly speaking, they are either PAID BIASED B.S or the reviewer doesn't even know about the product. All he or she is thinking about the affiliate cash he/she is going to make with that kind of statement.

Andrie, well said bro I am with you. But we will never see a 'real' product review like we expect. Buyers review the 'book' not the 'system' and 'returns'. Sad!

*sighs*

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