Flippa Alternative

I have looked on eBay but let us face it even eBay is not good enough to replace flippa, or we wouldn't have them on the first place.

eBay is huge market, but most of its buyers are not website buyers.

Good luck with those...

Sitepoint Marketplace was the only other place that worked and then they brought out Flippa. If someone had enough money to advertise an alternative it would work.

There is also a huge potential to defeat Flippa because they allow to post fake "proof" of "earnings". Someone can figure out the system to truly check the income, maybe for a fee, compose smart USP on that subject and then buyers would not go to Flippa anymore when everything is done right.

And yes fees too.

Probably the worst run webmaster forum of size on the net.

As far as buysellwebsites, with their fees flippa looks pretty good for small sites (much cheaper to list lol)

As far as websitebroker sounds pretty interesting, it is the first time i see it, maybe we need a deeper look on that site, and if it is doing any business

Probably for the same reason that Google dominates and that Paypal doesn't have a serious accross the board competitor.

There's a downfall of making a site that is free to list. You'll attract the wrong kind of sellers, which would cause quite a few problems. Unless you have a 24/7 customer service and not a one man band.

Regards,

Yeah, as the person above me said, the reason they charge people to list is so that scam rates stay low. I'd make sure you manually review each submission if you're allowing people to list for free.

I am aware creating an alternative to successful website is a hell of a job (I went through all type of hard times, when I came with an alternative to fiverr last year ). Unless you tried to create an alternative site to successful website, you can't imagine how nasty some people can get to discourage you (I don't say all people r going to be against you, just some will, there r many who will like to see a new competitor in the market).

Unbelievable.

You were told that building a Fiverr clone was a bad idea, you were told why and now you're whining that people were "nasty" to you? Folks who could see the obvious pitfalls and challenges you were somehow blind to -- those people were being mean to you?

Don't you get it? Everyone who told you not to do it was trying to do you a favor.

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hi AndrewAU,

Thanks for your insight, it is really great to have an input on that from someone work for Flippa.

I am aware funds play a major part in this game, most of Flippa competitors are not doing good job with advertising (I never saw a competitor for Flippa on Adwords yet) and that where I am wondering if it is the only reason for their failure. No Funds = No Buyers = Dead Marketplace.

I am not really aware if these scripts work on not (since I didn't look at any yet), and I don't think any script out there is good enough (If someone want to run successful script, they need few grounds fixing an existing one based on experience). There is no 100% working script, the owner of scripts usually make sure the script needs upgrades to keep the money rolling.

Flippa is a good marketplace for selling and buying websites, and the fact that Flippa has a zero competition makes me worry.

If A seller is not happy with Amazon, he goes and sell on eBay.

If someone is not happy with Google newest policy, will go ahead and use Bing or Yahoo

Now, when someone is not happy with Flippa new Fees, he will go ....

I am not trying to pick on Flippa, but as I mentioned before, as a buyer or a seller, we do need always for an alternative because having an alternative means to have a choice.

This is beside, the Fees of Flippa is keep getting higher, (Premium Listing, Minimum Fees for sites from 5% to %10).

I have been keeping my eyes on Flippa Blog, and as you aware many sellers are frustrated about Flippa introducing new Fees.

Website Flipper who may sell a site on Flippa for $50, is paying $29 fees to Flippa alone for that auction. Flippa is not processing the payment and is not protecting these sellers from scamming buyers (as you aware if a buyer didn't pay the seller and decided to run away, Flippa will still ask for their success Fees).

I believe a new competitor to Flippa who offer better Fees (I am not suggesting zero Fees), will change the rules of the game for these small sellers who need a lower fees.

Good Info thanks for sharing

sqnwk, I totally agree with u that this is the major problem, lake of advertising. Flippa is still doing plenty from time to time.

All I am saying if advertising is the only issue, few grounds on adwords should be a good solution to get the dice rolling

Thanks for your insight, premium listing is a new feature, but for people who pay for featured listing, they are effected as their listing drop to second and third page even much faster (If I would sell a site again on Flippa, I wouldn't use featured because the last time I did, I found over 9 premium sites ahead of my listing and practically not much of change in visitors).

I am aware the fees increased for the listing less than $200 sale, but how much in % of sites on flippa are being sold on that range. Most of websites flipper are selling under $200

If a site is sold for $60 not even $50, flippa is almost making 50% Off the sale, many of flippers are not doing the site work by themselves (relay on outsourcing)

I really didn't face that issue myself, but I found that out as I am searching the internet about Flippa Alternative, and found some bloggers writing about it, maybe they didn't do it through the sale page and contacted the support instead, I can provide some link to their pages.

I am not attacking Flippa Fees, Flippa is entitled to name their own fees as it is the case with any service website, and this is why I think a competitor to Flippa is now needed.

Having a competition on any marketplace, help even the best websites to improve their services and try keeping the fees to its best rate.

I don't expect a new competitor to have big websites sold over it, but a successful alternative, might be able to provide these small sellers a better rate over the long term.

Nice I approve of that. :-)

Not only does it have better sites in it, it also lists the site I am currently selling. So that must be a good filter.

another £100 to £100,000 or more, take your pick!


http://www.daltonsbusiness.com/buy/o...esses-for-sale

You're 100% right... this is our fault.

The newsletter summarized 3 news articles, but didn't mention the Facebook story that was referenced in the headline. You actually had to clickthrough to the blog post mentioned - http://flippa.com/blog/links-from-ar...rch-29th-2012/ in order to find out what it's about. In this case, it's actually a pretty interesting story about a domain name, auctioned off on Flippa, that was involved in a Facebook ownership dispute. It turns out that the plaintiff faked the contracts:

Facebook Unearths 200 Emails in Motion to Dismiss Ceglia's Suit - WSJ.com
How Forensics Claims Facebook Ownership Contract Is 'Forged' | Threat Level | Wired.com

We'll do a better job going forward ensuring the subject line reflects the content in the issue.

Is there any service where I can broker a sale?

I've agreed a price on a private sale, don't know the guy, just contacted him through his site.

Escrow is out, the site's $200, Escrow fees come to $25 + $40 wire transfer fee, which, if the deal goes south, I'll be hit with again.

Paypal offers no payment protection on websites.

I was thinking of just asking him to list it on flippa or an alternative, is this a good idea? What if he re-negs on our agreement, and puts it up for bid?

Is there any broker service for this situaiton, where both parties have agreed a price?

I love the posts from SBucciarel.. always hitting things right on the head 99% of the time!

Well said sbucciarel!

As far as a Flippa alternative site (UNLESS your're only selling a domain name) nothing yet compares.

It you're selling a domain name only, here's a solid list of Flippa alternative sites that allow you to list your domain name for FREE (at the time of posting anyway).

Commission Based Marketplaces To List Domains For Sale:

1. Aftermarket.com (10% commission)
2. Sedo (10% commission)
3. Bido Auctions (8% commission)
4. Afternic (10-20% commission)
5. SnapNames (20% commission)
6. GoDaddy Premium Listings (Requires domains at GoDaddy, 30% commission)
7. Pool.com (10% commission)
8. BrandStack Domains (15% commission)

This list may help some of your warriors out there!

Well, look at it this way. Your question is actually an amazing opportunity for you.

Start a flippa type site and do it for fees of $14.95 instead of their $29 and do a % of the sale as well.

You could do a WSO here for $9.99 for your 1st three sites with 1/2 % fees or free % fees to launch your site and get the word out. Then like anything you would need to promote it. CPA outfits like Peerfly would work. Split the initial fee with the Affiliate for the 1st listing.

Just an idea, Patrick

Huh?

Is that really your argument?

Here's the page you're talking about:



Clicking the pricing link takes you here:



New websites have a $9 listing fee. Established websites have a $29 listing fee. That seems pretty straightforward to me...