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I am really wondering why we don't have any alternative to flippa. I have been checking and the only place that some people think is an alternative to flippa is digitalpoint forum, which after investigation is not even close to be a replacement not to the website flippers (simply because it is not a website marketplace).

All flippa like sites are not seems to be dead, they are actually dead (last website listed was in ages).

Now my question is why we don't have a real alternative to flippa ? I am sure many people tried to replace flippa and failed (and that is why many dead clone sites). I just not yet sure the secret behind their death, was it low investment ? resistance from buyers & sellers to move to a new marketplace ?

I am aware creating an alternative to successful website is a hell of a job (I went through all type of hard times, when I came with an alternative to fiverr last year ). Unless you tried to create an alternative site to successful website, you can't imagine how nasty some people can get to discourage you (I don't say all people r going to be against you, just some will, there r many who will like to see a new competitor in the market).

Now, my question is what is the main reason behind these guys failure, I believe I am as good as any, and I can come with a replacement to flippa if I put my mind into it.

With all my respect to all flippa lovers, Flippa needs a competitor, they are controlling the market, and name their price, and without a competitor, I don't see a balance coming to the market soon.

Thoughts ? Ideas ? Would love to hear warriors voice on this matter.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You should consider Ebay, websitebroker, or buysellwebsite.
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    • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      You should consider Ebay, websitebroker, or buysellwebsite.
      I have looked on eBay but let us face it even eBay is not good enough to replace flippa, or we wouldn't have them on the first place.

      eBay is huge market, but most of its buyers are not website buyers.
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    • Profile picture of the author mattyprimmer
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      You should consider Ebay, websitebroker, or buysellwebsite.
      Good luck with those...

      Sitepoint Marketplace was the only other place that worked and then they brought out Flippa. If someone had enough money to advertise an alternative it would work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Digi Uk
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    I think the reason why "flippa" competitiors have failed is "No funds to invest" I believe there was too many people with "zero" funds that can see there is a potential to compete against "flippa" thus why many dead website sale sites, but struggle against the sheer exposure "flippa" has in the current market.

    Flippa are very well know in the news, tv, you name it. It would take a good fair few guys with a hefty budget to knock flippa off that number 1 spot in the website sales business.

    There is huge potential to defeat "flippa" due to there increasing listing costs. there not so great vetting a new member process. There is a huge potential on to take "flippas" concept and improve and listen to what buyers and sellers want, instead of the "flippas make more money attitude".

    Regards,
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      Originally Posted by Digi Uk View Post

      I think the reason why "flippa" competitiors have failed is "No funds to invest" I believe there was too many people with "zero" funds that can see there is a potential to compete against "flippa" thus why many dead website sale sites, but struggle against the sheer exposure "flippa" has in the current market.

      Flippa are very well know in the news, tv, you name it. It would take a good fair few guys with a hefty budget to knock flippa off that number 1 spot in the website sales business.

      There is huge potential to defeat "flippa" due to there increasing listing costs. there not so great vetting a new member process. There is a huge potential on to take "flippas" concept and improve and listen to what buyers and sellers want, instead of the "flippas make more money attitude".

      Regards,
      There is also a huge potential to defeat Flippa because they allow to post fake "proof" of "earnings". Someone can figure out the system to truly check the income, maybe for a fee, compose smart USP on that subject and then buyers would not go to Flippa anymore when everything is done right.

      And yes fees too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    I am not a fan of DigitalPoint's forum. I'm with Randall about his excellent alternatives. Though I'm perfectly happy with Flippa at this point.
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    • Profile picture of the author dvduval
      Originally Posted by Tadresources View Post

      I am not a fan of DigitalPoint's forum. I'm with Randall about his excellent alternatives. Though I'm perfectly happy with Flippa at this point.
      Probably the worst run webmaster forum of size on the net.
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    I would like to find out more also
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Joseph
    I agree with Randall: websitebroker, or buysellwebsite are good alternatives, although flippa does 'rock the house' when it comes to buying and selling sites.

    All the best with your choice!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ludovico
    Originally Posted by onegoodman View Post

    I am really wondering why we don't have any alternative to flippa. I have been checking and the only place that some people think is an alternative to flippa is digitalpoint forum, which after investigation is not even close to be a replacement not to the website flippers (simply because it is not a website marketplace).

    All flippa like sites are not seems to be dead, they are actually dead (last website listed was in ages).

    Now my question is why we don't have a real alternative to flippa ? I am sure many people tried to replace flippa and failed (and that is why many dead clone sites). I just not yet sure the secret behind their death, was it low investment ? resistance from buyers & sellers to move to a new marketplace ?

    I am aware creating an alternative to successful website is a hell of a job (I went through all type of hard times, when I came with an alternative to fiverr last year ). Unless you tried to create an alternative site to successful website, you can't imagine how nasty some people can get to discourage you (I don't say all people r going to be against you, just some will, there r many who will like to see a new competitor in the market).

    Now, my question is what is the main reason behind these guys failure, I believe I am as good as any, and I can come with a replacement to flippa if I put my mind into it.

    With all my respect to all flippa lovers, Flippa needs a competitor, they are controlling the market, and name their price, and without a competitor, I don't see a balance coming to the market soon.

    Thoughts ? Ideas ? Would love to hear warriors voice on this matter.
    Pretty much just Flippa and Direct Sales for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author rhinocl
      Probably for the same reason that Google dominates and that Paypal doesn't have a serious accross the board competitor.
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      • Profile picture of the author av54
        I have not seen anything better than Flippa yet.
        I would like to know If there is better option than Flippa.
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        • Profile picture of the author Digi Uk
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          Originally Posted by av54 View Post

          I have not seen anything better than Flippa yet.
          I would like to know If there is better option than Flippa.
          The only way another is going to be better then "flippa" is if they listened to there buyers and sellers and just take "flippas" current concept and improve dramatically on it.

          There are many areas on which you can improved very easily. Someone with determination and a fair marketing budget, it can be achieved.

          Regards,
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          • Profile picture of the author Matt Mickiewicz
            Originally Posted by Digi Uk View Post

            There are many areas on which you can improved very easily. Someone with determination and a fair marketing budget, it can be achieved.

            Regards,
            I'm always open to new suggestions & ideas... we've drastically improved search, introduced credit card verification for bids over $2000, introduced NDAs for people selling premium websites that don't want to disclose their URL and more, but there's always much, much more that can be done.
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      • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
        Originally Posted by rhinocl View Post

        Probably for the same reason that Google dominates and that Paypal doesn't have a serious accross the board competitor.
        PayPal and Google have competitors, Google : Bing/Yahoo
        PayPal : AlertPay/MoneyBooker/2Checkout and many others.

        I know they don't replace them yet, but they are big companies and do have a shot one day but when it come to Flippa, i haven't heard much of other names. If you stop Flipping on Flippa where else you going to flipp ?

        but if you stop using Google/PayPal there are really other option that you can take advantage of
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      • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
        Originally Posted by rhinocl View Post

        Probably for the same reason that Google dominates and that Paypal doesn't have a serious accross the board competitor.
        ^ This pretty much!

        Agree though that there does not seem to be as much competition as you would think.

        All down to the client base and Flippa has so much more reach than others.

        Chris
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    • Profile picture of the author Digi Uk
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      Originally Posted by Dave90210 View Post

      Check my sig I'm working on a site.
      There's a downfall of making a site that is free to list. You'll attract the wrong kind of sellers, which would cause quite a few problems. Unless you have a 24/7 customer service and not a one man band.

      Regards,
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave90210
        I monitor everything, I never claim to be a one man band. I have several people helping me. Theirs allot of crap on Flippa. 90% of it is turnkey junk that people keep recycling.

        No one can complain when something is free when they're provided with a service that normally cost them allot of money.

        You know how many times I've paid the listing fees on Flippa and never made 1 sale or sales inquiry? I've wasted $1000's on posting listings on that site. Plus you have to throw down 5% to Flippa when you finally get someone to buy your site.

        Give me a few weeks and I'm going to have a very valuable service with 1000's of hungry buyers!

        Originally Posted by Digi Uk View Post

        There's a downfall of making a site that is free to list. You'll attract the wrong kind of sellers, which would cause quite a few problems. Unless you have a 24/7 customer service and not a one man band.

        Regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author Ludovico
      Originally Posted by Dave90210 View Post

      Check my sig I'm working on a site.
      Yeah, as the person above me said, the reason they charge people to list is so that scam rates stay low. I'd make sure you manually review each submission if you're allowing people to list for free.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave90210
        I do monitor for to a certain extent. You can't weed out everything. It's up to the seller to go through a series of checklist before making a purchase. Ask the person for server traffic stats. income proof, escrow payment for any sales over a few hundred dollars.

        If I ever get a complaint about anyone scamming anyone on my site I immediately ban them and their ip address.
        Originally Posted by Ludovico View Post

        Yeah, as the person above me said, the reason they charge people to list is so that scam rates stay low. I'd make sure you manually review each submission if you're allowing people to list for free.
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    • I am aware creating an alternative to successful website is a hell of a job (I went through all type of hard times, when I came with an alternative to fiverr last year ). Unless you tried to create an alternative site to successful website, you can't imagine how nasty some people can get to discourage you (I don't say all people r going to be against you, just some will, there r many who will like to see a new competitor in the market).

      Unbelievable.

      You were told that building a Fiverr clone was a bad idea, you were told why and now you're whining that people were "nasty" to you? Folks who could see the obvious pitfalls and challenges you were somehow blind to -- those people were being mean to you?

      Don't you get it? Everyone who told you not to do it was trying to do you a favor.

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      • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
        Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat View Post

        I am aware creating an alternative to successful website is a hell of a job (I went through all type of hard times, when I came with an alternative to fiverr last year ). Unless you tried to create an alternative site to successful website, you can't imagine how nasty some people can get to discourage you (I don't say all people r going to be against you, just some will, there r many who will like to see a new competitor in the market).

        Unbelievable.

        You were told that building a Fiverr clone was a bad idea, you were told why and now you're whining that people were "nasty" to you? Folks who could see the obvious pitfalls and challenges you were somehow blind to -- those people were being mean to you?

        Don't you get it? Everyone who told you not to do it was trying to do you a favor.

        fLufF
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        fLufF with my respect to all these people you don't know what they did, so please don't put yourself in position of defending them.

        I am proud of my accomplishment, because there was a need always for alternatives.

        just imagine there is only one search engine ? one payment gateway ? one advertising method ? and for whatever reason you got banned of it, what is next shutdown your internet and cry out loud ?!

        We need alternative to each and every business out there, now there are people with limited mentality, and these people always want to be ab obstacle toward any successful business.

        Fiverr needed competition, I don't know how long have u been on fiverr, but if you recall there was a time where fiverr support used to suck, how much did fiverr improve its services since we had successful alternatives (yes, i know mayn't seem successful as fiverr, but some of them proved to be even more useful) ?

        By the way not everyone thought my idea was bad, only people with limited imagination did, I am not a sheep listen to each voice. There are many loosers out there who would think any idea is a bad idea.

        Now regardingless of fiverr or its alternative, I just brought that as an example. I am here to discuss Flippa, and I would highly appreciate keeping this thread about flippa.

        I am aware you are not familiar with flippa, but they just increased their fees again this month, and I can tell from their blog, they got many sellers pretty angry about it (specially the regular flippers over there).
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewAU
    I work for Flippa and these are my own views on why Flippa wannabes tend to fail based on watching a stack of them come and go over the last 24 months (I was initially worried whenever I saw one pop up but care less now given the average lifespan is about 4 weeks).

    First is that most attempts acutely underestimate the effort involved in running a marketplace focused on websites. We typically have more than 3 full time developers and that many support staff working on keeping the marketplace humming along on world class technical infrastructure. We think we're pretty good but still have an endless list of improvements we're working on - everything from connecting to more APIs to bring in more data on a given website, to raising the bar even further on fraud preventions (IP-based systems are for noobs), and further streamlining the entire end-to-end user experience for both buyers and sellers. If you're serious about competing in this exciting space - hire a white-hot development team to do something amazing rather than rely on skeleton "scripts" from a previous era running on free hosting plans ...

    Second is work out how you're looking to compete in this space. Offering free listings (classic price based competition) will simply send you broke as you try to fund day-to-day running/improvement of your given marketplace. We charge a modest fee because we have faith in the value it provides to sellers and are keen to invest further in our marketplace. The only people providing free or lower-price listings are the ones not delivering value (ie sales) to sellers or buyers. Another problem with free is that you end up with a bunch of sites for sale where the owner also has no faith in their value. This is a turn off for buyers which leads to the marketplace being a ghost town. Be creative - compete on something more sustainable than the futile lower price point.

    Hope that helps. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
      hi AndrewAU,

      Thanks for your insight, it is really great to have an input on that from someone work for Flippa.

      I am aware funds play a major part in this game, most of Flippa competitors are not doing good job with advertising (I never saw a competitor for Flippa on Adwords yet) and that where I am wondering if it is the only reason for their failure. No Funds = No Buyers = Dead Marketplace.

      I am not really aware if these scripts work on not (since I didn't look at any yet), and I don't think any script out there is good enough (If someone want to run successful script, they need few grounds fixing an existing one based on experience). There is no 100% working script, the owner of scripts usually make sure the script needs upgrades to keep the money rolling.

      Flippa is a good marketplace for selling and buying websites, and the fact that Flippa has a zero competition makes me worry.

      If A seller is not happy with Amazon, he goes and sell on eBay.

      If someone is not happy with Google newest policy, will go ahead and use Bing or Yahoo

      Now, when someone is not happy with Flippa new Fees, he will go ....

      I am not trying to pick on Flippa, but as I mentioned before, as a buyer or a seller, we do need always for an alternative because having an alternative means to have a choice.

      This is beside, the Fees of Flippa is keep getting higher, (Premium Listing, Minimum Fees for sites from 5% to %10).

      I have been keeping my eyes on Flippa Blog, and as you aware many sellers are frustrated about Flippa introducing new Fees.

      Website Flipper who may sell a site on Flippa for $50, is paying $29 fees to Flippa alone for that auction. Flippa is not processing the payment and is not protecting these sellers from scamming buyers (as you aware if a buyer didn't pay the seller and decided to run away, Flippa will still ask for their success Fees).

      I believe a new competitor to Flippa who offer better Fees (I am not suggesting zero Fees), will change the rules of the game for these small sellers who need a lower fees.
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  • Profile picture of the author sqnwk
    The reason Flippa is so popular is because it has both the buyers and sellers, who's going to list on a market place where there are no buyers?
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    • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
      Originally Posted by sqnwk View Post

      The reason Flippa is so popular is because it has both the buyers and sellers, who's going to list on a market place where there are no buyers?
      sqnwk, I totally agree with u that this is the major problem, lake of advertising. Flippa is still doing plenty from time to time.

      All I am saying if advertising is the only issue, few grounds on adwords should be a good solution to get the dice rolling
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  • so far im really enjoying flippa havent tried to sell any sites yet though just buy. Its like buying anyother business
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  • Profile picture of the author theemperor
    Here is an idea on how to improve on Flippa:

    The big problem with Flippa as a buyer is that 90% of the listings are boilerplate sites designed to be sold on rather than earn money. These are cookie-cutters sites being produced factory style and sold very effectively.

    Now as a buyer I would love to see a marketplace that didn't include such listings and so you are left with genuine sites that are successful unique ideas or have unique content.

    One way to filter out the cookie cutters is to maintain that the domain must be owned for at least 6 months. Another is to make it a requirement to post Google Analytics traffic data showing at least 1000 unique visitors per month from organic traffic etc.

    Now such an exchange may not be as profitable as Flippa but it would tempt away a section of the market who are not interested in buying into this cookie-cutter thing and want interesting websites with genuine potential.

    Just an idea to put out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewAU
    Originally Posted by onegoodman View Post

    the Fees of Flippa is keep getting higher, (Premium Listing, Minimum Fees for sites from 5% to %10).
    The fees have not really changed for some time and there are absolutely no new fees. The Premium Listing is a new product and only available to qualifying listings and is by no means mandatory. The basic listing fee has not changed. Similarly on the success fee - it has been 5% for as long as I can remember. We recently adjusted the minimum success fee to be $10 but this only impacts sites selling for less than $200.

    Originally Posted by onegoodman View Post

    as you aware if a buyer didn't pay the seller and decided to run away, Flippa will still ask for their success Fees
    This is incorrect. Simply initiate a dispute from your post-sale page if a buyer does not follow through on a sale. This will typically result in a free relisting, any upgrades being credited to your account, and the success fee waived. We don't charge a success fee if there is no sale.

    Originally Posted by theemperor View Post

    One way to filter out the cookie cutters is to maintain that the domain must be owned for at least 6 months. Another is to make it a requirement to post Google Analytics traffic data showing at least 1000 unique visitors per month from organic traffic etc.
    Everyone has different criteria when it comes to buying websites. We cater for this by providing powerful tools such as our advanced search page: https://flippa.com/search

    This allows you to define your own criteria - you can even save your refined search using our Save Search function.

    For the record, your personalized version of Flippa (only site over a year old + more than 1000 uniques per month with verified google analytics) would look like this:
    https://flippa.com/buy/search?sort_c...iques_min=1000

    Hope that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
      Originally Posted by AndrewAU View Post

      The fees have not really changed for some time and there are absolutely no new fees. The Premium Listing is a new product and only available to qualifying listings and is by no means mandatory. The basic listing fee has not changed. Similarly on the success fee - it has been 5% for as long as I can remember. We recently adjusted the minimum success fee to be $10 but this only impacts sites selling for less than $200.
      Thanks for your insight, premium listing is a new feature, but for people who pay for featured listing, they are effected as their listing drop to second and third page even much faster (If I would sell a site again on Flippa, I wouldn't use featured because the last time I did, I found over 9 premium sites ahead of my listing and practically not much of change in visitors).

      I am aware the fees increased for the listing less than $200 sale, but how much in % of sites on flippa are being sold on that range. Most of websites flipper are selling under $200

      If a site is sold for $60 not even $50, flippa is almost making 50% Off the sale, many of flippers are not doing the site work by themselves (relay on outsourcing)

      This is incorrect. Simply initiate a dispute from your post-sale page if a buyer does not follow through on a sale. This will typically result in a free relisting, any upgrades being credited to your account, and the success fee waived. We don't charge a success fee if there is no sale.
      I really didn't face that issue myself, but I found that out as I am searching the internet about Flippa Alternative, and found some bloggers writing about it, maybe they didn't do it through the sale page and contacted the support instead, I can provide some link to their pages.

      I am not attacking Flippa Fees, Flippa is entitled to name their own fees as it is the case with any service website, and this is why I think a competitor to Flippa is now needed.

      Having a competition on any marketplace, help even the best websites to improve their services and try keeping the fees to its best rate.

      I don't expect a new competitor to have big websites sold over it, but a successful alternative, might be able to provide these small sellers a better rate over the long term.
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    • Profile picture of the author theemperor
      Originally Posted by AndrewAU View Post

      For the record, your personalized version of Flippa (only site over a year old + more than 1000 uniques per month with verified google analytics) would look like this:
      https://flippa.com/buy/search?sort_c...iques_min=1000

      Hope that helps.
      Nice I approve of that. :-)

      Not only does it have better sites in it, it also lists the site I am currently selling. So that must be a good filter.
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  • Profile picture of the author CBGCash
    I mainly use flippa and nothing else. It's a good inspirational place to learn to see websites that make money. Good luck though.
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    I'd sure like to see a Flippa alternative because they make money from websites that tell teenagers how to kill themselves:

    https://flippa.com/2713385-pr4-dropp...day-no-reserve

    I asked them to stop this listing but they refused. Business ethics are dead it would seem. What's even worse is that the site has AdSense on, so Google is also making money from dead teenagers.

    Back on topic, some of the prices I see on Flippa are absurd. They're little better than the domain squatters who think a domain is worth $1500 with no content on it. It reminds me of the early days of eBay when people would bid up junk to stupid prices. Now you can buy iPhone covers for $3 including postage on there, so I wonder how anyone is making money from it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ultimates
    I have a very expensive flippa clone script. Would consider a multi tier partnership to become flippa next competitor. Anyone interested? Just an idea
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  • Profile picture of the author Lenny Winkle
    AndrewAU,

    Slightly off topic but I'll post it here since your from Flippa and I was going to sit down and actually got to the trouble of emailing flippa about this today, after I unsubscribe to the flippa newsletter.

    I subscribed to the flippa newsletter and actually browse through it every time I get it. Yesterday I got an email newsletter from flippa with the sensationalized headline "facebook ownership dispute hinges on faked emails" which was obviously designed as a scummy technique to get more people to open the email.

    The newsletter had absolutely nothing to do with that and didn't even mention FB. I would think a large reputable company would be above such scummy techniques and for that reason I am, unhappily, unsubscribing.

    I've purchased several websites through flippa and its worked out well though I'm always surprised by some of the obvious scams and false claims allowed as well as sellers being able to simply delete questions that they don't like in their auctions.

    So for for flippa or anyone looking to compete take note these are things that really piss your customers off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Baer
    I have some sites I would like to sell. It seems to me that Flippa is the 800 lb Gorilla. If somebody thinks they are going to enter into this space they better have really deep pockets for marketing. I don't care how much better their service is. It won't matter unless they have an audience.
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    • Profile picture of the author thedog
      Is there any service where I can broker a sale?

      I've agreed a price on a private sale, don't know the guy, just contacted him through his site.

      Escrow is out, the site's $200, Escrow fees come to $25 + $40 wire transfer fee, which, if the deal goes south, I'll be hit with again.

      Paypal offers no payment protection on websites.

      I was thinking of just asking him to list it on flippa or an alternative, is this a good idea? What if he re-negs on our agreement, and puts it up for bid?

      Is there any broker service for this situaiton, where both parties have agreed a price?
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  • Profile picture of the author ixionmarketing
    Flippa website is good for buy and sell website but they charge very high fee
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Lin
    I dislike the listing fee that I have to pay before I can sell my site.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by onegoodman View Post

    I am really wondering why we don't have any alternative to flippa. I have been checking and the only place that some people think is an alternative to flippa is digitalpoint forum, which after investigation is not even close to be a replacement not to the website flippers (simply because it is not a website marketplace).
    DP isn't even close to it and I wouldn't do any business there for anything. The reason there is no alternative is because no one has put the time and money into building and promoting one. Simple as that.
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    • Profile picture of the author CBusiness
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      DP isn't even close to it and I wouldn't do any business there for anything. The reason there is no alternative is because no one has put the time and money into building and promoting one. Simple as that.
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      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      DP isn't even close to it and I wouldn't do any business there for anything. The reason there is no alternative is because no one has put the time and money into building and promoting one. Simple as that.
      Well said sbucciarel!

      As far as a Flippa alternative site (UNLESS your're only selling a domain name) nothing yet compares.

      It you're selling a domain name only, here's a solid list of Flippa alternative sites that allow you to list your domain name for FREE (at the time of posting anyway).

      Commission Based Marketplaces To List Domains For Sale:
      1. Aftermarket.com (10% commission)
      2. Sedo (10% commission)
      3. Bido Auctions (8% commission)
      4. Afternic (10-20% commission)
      5. SnapNames (20% commission)
      6. GoDaddy Premium Listings (Requires domains at GoDaddy, 30% commission)
      7. Pool.com (10% commission)
      8. BrandStack Domains (15% commission)
      This list may help some of your warriors out there!
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeRockefeller
    Flippa is what it is because they started with a strong foundation first. They started with a strong following and built a marketplace from there. Lots of time and effort for this one.
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  • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
    Flippa is a great marketplace overall but as many have mentioned here and elsewhere...they certainly have their faults.

    The biggest problem with building a captured marketplace for buying/selling sites is attracting the BUYERS...not the sellers. If you have the buyers, the sellers will come.

    We've been selling niche sites from our website for almost a year now and have a pretty active group of buyers. Our BuyOurSites page is our second most visited page on the site, after our homepage.

    My business partner and I have seriously gone back and forth on setting up our own marketplace. I think the key would not be to compete with Flippa and be everything to everyone...the key would be to own a portion or a "niche" of the buying/selling market and own that.

    In our case, we were considering setting up a marketplace specifically for niche AdSense sites. That seems to make the most sense...that's where most of our buyers are, where we're most proficient, etc.

    As the Flippa guys have pointed out, there's a ton of development work that goes into that kind of marketplace (assuming you're not using some kind of crappy clone) both in setting it up and maintaining the site/service.

    Before even bothering to set something like that up, I would first recommend trying to get a strong list of buyers for a particular niche. Get yourself an email list of 1-2K+ of "amazon niche site buyers" or some particular niche first and then try to figure out how to compete. The "build it and they will come" approach if you're not in that particular space is probably a bad idea, IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author bluedianthus
    The fee for listing is now $29..Newbie cannot afford it.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevemorse
    the fee is too high, then also earn a percentage, it seems to me too.

    They should put a fee for sites over sites for $ 1000 but for site from 100$ should take only a percentage of the sale.
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    • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
      Well, look at it this way. Your question is actually an amazing opportunity for you.

      Start a flippa type site and do it for fees of $14.95 instead of their $29 and do a % of the sale as well.

      You could do a WSO here for $9.99 for your 1st three sites with 1/2 % fees or free % fees to launch your site and get the word out. Then like anything you would need to promote it. CPA outfits like Peerfly would work. Split the initial fee with the Affiliate for the 1st listing.

      Just an idea, Patrick
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Russell
    I got a feeling something is just around the corner

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  • Profile picture of the author JWImarketing
    I agree dvduval....but it still has its uses....
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  • Profile picture of the author xInd
    I know a great alternative to flippa. I also happen to have a coupon code for free gold listings www.venforo.com coupn code: BWSTPGold
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  • Profile picture of the author jmb321
    There is always a need for an alternative marketplace to grow the industry. Here is my rationale for a quality, professionally developed and funded alternate website for buying and selling web properties.
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  • Profile picture of the author freotech
    Re: Flippa Alternative
    You should consider Ebay, websitebroker, or buysellwebsite.
    We should add Warrior forum :
    Complete Web Sites For Sale!
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  • Profile picture of the author PCRoger
    Flippa states "starting at $9" but when you click through the questions it has $29 as the base before addons without any explanation of where the extra $20 came from.
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    • Profile picture of the author TryBPO
      Originally Posted by PCRoger View Post

      Flippa states "starting at $9" but when you click through the questions it has $29 as the base before addons without any explanation of where the extra $20 came from.
      Huh?

      Is that really your argument?

      Here's the page you're talking about:



      Clicking the pricing link takes you here:



      New websites have a $9 listing fee. Established websites have a $29 listing fee. That seems pretty straightforward to me...
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      • Profile picture of the author PCRoger
        @TryBPO - I appreciate the response, I had not seen that screen because I did not click the link that followed the text "Listings Start at $9". So I put in my website & email information and clicked "start". I took that to mean that ALL listings start at $9 and since I had no intention of paying for "extras" that mine would be $9. Not all that illogical. But in their defense, yes, there is clearly a link to get full pricing.

        Of course, there is more than one way to take "new website", since there is no explanation of what determines that a website is "established".

        BTW, I have no "argument", I was merely looking for an explanation which you provided.

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  • Profile picture of the author nirajan
    digitalpoint forum sucks for new sellers, websitebroker has lots of spam and overpriced sites. I think there is no alternative for flippa.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    Ebay is a good popular site, huge network.
    ebay has more potential buyers than flippa.
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  • Profile picture of the author palmtrees
    I've never bought or sold a website through flippa, but I've spent time browsing, and always come away disappointed.

    Flippa is like Myspace back in the day, it's all anyone uses and it's just ok. And something better (ie facebook) could definitely come along and crush it.

    I feel instinctively it could be a lot better.

    I have also wondered why nothing better has come along. I believe it comes down to the fact that no one has tried to do it who had the funds and the team.

    How many people do you think flippa has on staff? The same people also own 99designs and sitepoint.com, according to the flippa website. There are 25 people listed as staff on the about section of the sitepoint website. There are 90 people listed as staff on the 99designs website!

    Flippa doesn't have a staff listing, but can you start to understand what it takes to run a website like that? The concept seems simple but in it's execution it takes infinitely more than you could imagine to actually do it right.
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  • Profile picture of the author palmtrees
    Also why would flippa charge $9 for new websites and $29 for established? They should do the opposite to encourage actually good, not shitty cookie cutter websites to fill their listings. That reveals their attitude and their problem right there IMHO.
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  • Profile picture of the author tbcooke
    Hi palmtrees,

    Interesting feedback, we'll definitely take it on board.

    What would be your three top ideas or points to improve Flippa? Not trying to steal your ideas, just interested in what our users would like us to provide.

    Thanks!

    Tim
    Flippa.com
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnyEnglish
    I listed domain fee $27 or $29 not remember. My listing only got 20 views which is very2 bad.

    My listing ended unsuccesful.

    I lost listing fee and will never come to flippa again unless i really know how to make money with selling websites.

    My thought flippa will be like ebay. Fee keep rising and make people sick of it.. They will be dead

    Thanks
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