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What WSO's work? No get rich quick stuff

by Snowbro
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(Please no self promotion)
No offense to some people just trying to make a living making courses. But I am not stupid and will not believe any you will make 60,000 in 6 weeks! type offers. I am not looking to get rich quick. I believe in hard work and working smart. I know basic SEO and would like to learn more intermediate-expert stuff.

If I buy a product (course) that does not work, I am not mad because I lost $5-1,000. I am mad because I wasted time trying it. The money isn't a problem. I bought Traffic Grab because I watched the intro & heard good things about it. It was just way too broad and the things it did cover were very basic. I was under the impression that it was going to have some good SEO stuff in it. Most of it was just talking about other products you can buy from him.

I am looking for a no crap, no pure theory courses, no ramble sessions promoting more products they make. I just want some good models to try & would like some that cover SEO in great detail and social media. It would be nice to get one that covers all 3 very good, but I don't mind getting them from separate people.

I had come across some threads talking about google sniper 2 & commission inferno. I could see google sniper being useful for getting better on site SEO.

I saw the creator of commission inferno saying his course was hardcore SEO, then I watched the only thing on his site about it and it was talking about making 150 bucks in 10min or something and talking about how all other guru's are scammers etc.. It also lead me to believe that it has some sort of system that you working with him (MLM) or something. I don't know though, because I can't really find a table of contents or anything on what exactly the course covers.

Anyway, thanks in advanced for any input.
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  • Profile picture of the author HarrieB
    Depending upon the type of work that you do or wanna do , we have tons of WSO'S here

    If you are a SEO guy or wanna move to seo- You can check google detonator and fast attack wso by craig meko.

    If you are looking for amazon- there are azonbuilder, azon spy and a few other products.

    wanna get into youtube marketing, there are good recently released WSO'S AS WELL.

    If you wanna move to fb marketing, there are facebook timeline PLR, graphics.

    If ytou are a designer or want to design websites, buy Ninja graphics or marketing graphics toolkit!!

    depends on what you wanna learn..

    Got any issue, feel free to PM me!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    These types of threads all over the place today. I know you feel different by not asking for the 60,000 payout; but you are still asking for the same thing:



    Everyone is waiting on that one WSO that has it all, exactly what I need! None of the WSO's are going to work for you if you don't make them work for yourself. If that concept isn't going to sink in for you, well tough luck.

    Oh, and I see that this isn't the original thread title...
    Re: Why did my thread on WSOs get deleted?
    Changing it is not going to stop the moderators from finding it :rolleyes:.
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    • Profile picture of the author Snowbro
      Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

      These types of threads all over the place today. I know you feel different by not asking for the 60,000 payout; but you are still asking for the same thing:



      Everyone is waiting on that one WSO that has it all, exactly what I need! None of the WSO's are going to work for you if you don't make them work for yourself. If that concept isn't going to sink in for you, well tough luck.

      Oh, and I see that this isn't the original thread title...
      Changing it is not going to stop the moderators from finding it :rolleyes:.
      I was editing it and the site crashed for 5min. I think that was what actually happened

      I actually have made a six figure income with a e-commerce site I had invested over 80k into a few years back. My market got over saturated with whole-sellers making their own sites and ignoring MAP pricing so I sold my site and doubled my money. But I paid people to do my SEO and marketing so I want to learn it now and do affiliate sites. I currently have a very good exclusive niche for an affiliate product and getting a 9% conversion rate with ppc. Just working on SEO.

      I am open to learning peoples business models for affiliate marketing also, but mainly I am wanting a very good detailed SEO course with up to date social marketing too. A good affiliate system would just be a plus.

      - Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    it's a tough question to answer, I have bought many products in the WSO section that have improved my business, while others say that that product is a scam.

    the very first product I ever bought made me money, and started me on my journey, but many people complained that it was a scam.

    It all comes down to your willingness to learn, and the dedication and commitment you are willing to put into it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by Snowbro View Post

    (Please no self promotion)
    No offense to some people just trying to make a living making courses. But I am not stupid and will not believe any you will make 60,000 in 6 weeks! type offers. I am not looking to get rich quick. I believe in hard work and working smart. I know basic SEO and would like to learn more intermediate-expert stuff.

    If I buy a product (course) that does not work, I am not mad because I lost $5-1,000. I am mad because I wasted time trying it. The money isn't a problem. I bought Traffic Grab because I watched the intro & heard good things about it. It was just way too broad and the things it did cover were very basic. I was under the impression that it was going to have some good SEO stuff in it. Most of it was just talking about other products you can buy from him.

    I am looking for a no crap, no pure theory courses, no ramble sessions promoting more products they make. I just want some good models to try & would like some that cover SEO in great detail and social media. It would be nice to get one that covers all 3 very good, but I don't mind getting them from separate people.

    I had come across some threads talking about google sniper 2 & commission inferno. I could see google sniper being useful for getting better on site SEO. I saw the creator of commission inferno saying it was hardcore SEO, then I watched the only thing on his site about it and it all it was talking about was making 150 bucks in 10min or something and talking about how all other guru's are scammers etc.. It also lead me to believe that it has some sort of system that you working with him (MLM) or something. I don't know though, because I can't really find a table of contents or anything on what exactly the course covers.

    Anyway, thanks in advanced for any input.
    You might want to check out Unstoppable Affiliate by Andrew Hansen and Josh Stanton.

    Joey
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    In that case, save yourself the money and the time of sifting through the WSO section and go to this sub forum.Absorb everything in there, as I would put anything on that information being just as good (if not better) than a $7 package put together by an "expert."

    See you when you get out of there lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author Snowbro
      Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

      In that case, save yourself the money and the time of sifting through the WSO section and go to this sub forum.Absorb everything in there, as I would put anything on that information being just as good (if not better) than a $7 package put together by an "expert."

      See you when you get out of there lol.
      Haha ya, I already almost don't see the light of day going through there. It just is hard to know what is right and what is bad to do. I almost installed WP Robot from reading about it, glad I didn't after I spent hours researching it. It would be nice to have good video training step by step of intermediate-advanced SEO/Social marketing.

      I am thinking about buying SEnuke X. Any thoughts on that? Most of what I have read about software that generates backlinks etc.. usually makes the kind of stuff that can actually hurt your ranks or knock you out all together.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    To be honest, I don't do too much when it comes to SEO. I'm into article syndication and just let the ranking come over time by getting my content onto relevant sites.

    I won't pretend to be an expert on the topic or that specific product; but I do know that Google has been coming down hard on sites that are not naturally generating backlinks. Things are only supposed to get tougher for these types of programs. Providing valuable content to the end user is definitely the best long term solution with the way things are heading.
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    • Profile picture of the author Snowbro
      I actually really like your response. That is what I have seen as the future to good SEO in the direction google is going. I still am probably going to try SEnuke X on a separate site of mine to see what happens and may also try it with my moneymaker. Currently I have been getting about $50/day my first week from launching. I am a noob at internet marketing though and haven't spent much on PPC.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by Snowbro View Post

        I actually really like your response. That is what I have seen as the future to good SEO in the direction google is going. I still am probably going to try SEnuke X on a separate site of mine to see what happens and may also try it with my moneymaker. Currently I have been getting about $50/day my first week from launching. I am a noob at internet marketing though and haven't spent much on PPC.
        It definitely wouldn't hurt to try it I guess. The product has been mentioned numerous times since I joined here, although I don't remember what was said so I can't tell you if it was an endorsement or indictment. As the guy below me said go for whatever you think is a good decision. At the end of the day it is your business after all.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
        Originally Posted by Snowbro View Post

        Currently I have been getting about $50/day my first week from launching.
        My 2 cents - you don't need a WSO. You need to DO what you apparently already know to do on 3-4-10 other sites. By DOING you will learn what you are missing. Right now you're shooting in the dark wondering about this program and that software when you should be focusing on doing/repeating what you've been able to accomplish.

        For example you mentioned spending hours looking at a software you almost bought. Why not use those hours putting up another site that can make $50 a day?

        Don't get caught up in paralysis by analysis when you don't need to. If you really are making $50 a day you are so far ahead of many people.

        Get some more experience doing what you already know to do and then the next/intermediate steps will be clearer.

        Good luck with whichever route you take.
        Mark
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        • Profile picture of the author viper217
          Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

          My 2 cents - you don't need a WSO. You need to DO what you apparently already know to do on 3-4-10 other sites. By DOING you will learn what you are missing. Right now you're shooting in the dark wondering about this program and that software when you should be focusing on doing/repeating what you've been able to accomplish.

          For example you mentioned spending hours looking at a software you almost bought. Why not use those hours putting up another site that can make $50 a day?

          Don't get caught up in paralysis by analysis when you don't need to. If you really are making $50 a day you are so far ahead of many people.

          Get some more experience doing what you already know to do and then the next/intermediate steps will be clearer.

          Good luck with whichever route you take.
          Mark
          This is the real deal statement - doing it for real - couldn't agree more.

          Testing and analysis are important to see what works and what doesn't. Scale what works and bin the rest.

          Then once you have a site and system that works - clone the site and create other sites but in different markets.

          Once it all gets too much to manage - then consider outsourcing (further down the road)

          I also agree that a lot of people - including myself, can get too lost in the technological answers, when it really is all about getting on with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Des Lau
    Two words: War Room

    Join it and you can learn alot in one day.

    As someone new, personally I wouldn't touch SEO, but that might be your interest so run your own race.
    Though there are plenty of other ways to 'do it'. You just have to get back to basics and think like a marketer, and what people want. Most of those products you described sound like guru-hype products, I'd stay well away and learn as much as you can here and talk to people in RL.

    my 2 cents
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  • Profile picture of the author MasonRamm
    Great post...

    Basically what You need is a good mentor who walks the walk, talks the talk...

    One that comes to mind (other than myself) and who has an excellent reputation
    is Internet Marketer Chris Farrell and he provides excellent training via his
    membership site (Do a search for his membership site) plus he has hundreds of
    happy customers/testimonials.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Originally Posted by Alyona The Publicist View Post

    The Truth is "there is no wso that will guarantee you learn everything about internet marketing from one ebook"

    that's practically impossible
    I'd say entirely impossible, in the WSO section or anywhere else in the world.


    Originally Posted by Alyona The Publicist View Post

    Sometimes I see people who have 10 posts on the warrior forum and are already doing tens of WSOs per week, I don't have much respect for something like that.
    A bit of a blanket statement. There are people with zero posts that have forgotten more about marketing than you and I will ever know. But before we get into the whole post count and reputation debate lets drop it.

    Originally Posted by Alyona The Publicist View Post

    But I assure you that you will never find any better ebooks online than the ones you will find in the WSO section.
    I disagree with that as well. Some of the best online marketers around don't even post in here, and thus don't sell their products as WSO's.

    Originally Posted by Alyona The Publicist View Post

    Disclaimer: I may have been slightly biased in my judgment seeing that I currently have two WSOs in the wso section.
    Yes, I would say you were.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Looking for a WSO that "works" is putting the cart before the horse. You need to determine your skills, strengths, interests and make your own plan for an online business. Once you have a clear direction that you want to pursue then you buy whatever tools you need to make that happen, including an info course.
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    • Profile picture of the author Simmeon
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Looking for a WSO that "works" is putting the cart before the horse. You need to determine your skills, strengths, interests and make your own plan for an online business. Once you have a clear direction that you want to pursue then you buy whatever tools you need to make that happen, including an info course.
      Without doing this you are heading for a brick wall.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael J Anthony
    I also think you need a mentor. This was (is?) my problem for many years. Trying to go it alone with no mentor will put you behind the proverbial 8-ball. I have been checking out Ryan Moran lately because his attitude about freedom is the same as mine and the way he went about achieving that has also been what I've been wanting to do - affiliate marketing and flipping websites. Only I have been failing while he is successful. So I want to use him as a mentor now.

    So find someone successful in what you want to do, and that you can relate to for whatever reason, and copy what they do.
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  • Profile picture of the author sanjx01
    If you only ever learn one thing that you dind't know before from a WSO - then it's been worth it!

    Just my 2 cents.

    There are heaps and heaps of WSO's available on the SEO topic, especially after the penguin update.

    Hope that helps!

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  • Profile picture of the author mrinternational
    It can take a really long time to learn everything about SEO specially to implement and get results for your site especially if you are targeting more competitive keywords.

    At which point you would have probably spent a whole bunch of time and a boat load of money trying to get to page 1, when you could easily pay someone here on WF to do it for you and for a VERY reasonable price.

    Also think about when the next big update might strike and all your hard work for something could disappear in the blink of an eye.

    I'm not saying this to discourage you, just saying that if you already built a profitable business you probably have better things to do with your time than do your own seo.

    Unless of course you plan on opening a SEO business.At which point you could also outsource all the work anyways.
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