Should I use Hostgator or UK hosting?

by dmister 48 replies
Hi, guys I have been a long term browser of the forum but this is my first post.

I am going to be registering a .co.uk site and I am based in the UK and want to rank high in Google UK.

I always hear that Hostgator/Bluehost are great hosts but thought I read someone the host servers location can affect ranking. Is this that big a deal?

Also, if it is a problem what UK hosting company would recommend - it has to be relatively cheap too!

I am tempted to use Hostgator and buy a co.uk domain but wondered what is best and particularly if any UK guys have any experience of this.

Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by dmister View Post

    I am going to be registering a .co.uk site and I am based in the UK and want to rank high in Google UK.
    Then you need UK hosting. It's about as simple as that. (I always recommend "Heart Internet", whose customer service is brilliant).

    And welcome to the forum!

    And here's Matt Cutts, from Google, explaining why you need UK hosting.


    Originally Posted by dmister View Post

    wondered what is best and particularly if any UK guys have any experience of this.
    Nope ... only girls: sorry about that.
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    • Profile picture of the author dmister
      Thanks very much for the quick reply Alexa (and yes girls can answer too!)
      The video was also helpful.

      What package of theirs would you recommend for quite a small websites?
      Also, do you use them to register domains?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by dmister View Post

        Thanks very much for the quick reply Alexa (and yes girls can answer too!)
        The video was also helpful.

        What package of theirs would you recommend for quite a small websites?
        I would think that "Starter Pro" will be enough? (You can always upgrade, if you need to).

        I didn't know, when I replied above, that JustHost also offers UK hosting. JustHost also has a good reputation.

        Originally Posted by dmister View Post

        Also, do you use them to register domains?
        I don't, not because I don't trust them as registrars, but simply because one should never register a domain-name where one's going to host the domain. This can sometimes lead to easily avoided problems. Explained in more detail here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5118308
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim3
    You might also consider Just Host for the UK too, very secure, well priced and good support. Great cPanel
    only 1 downtime blip (10 minutes) in over 2 years
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    • Profile picture of the author jackall
      Originally Posted by Tim3 View Post

      You might also consider Just Host for the UK too, very secure, well priced and good support. Great cPanel
      only 1 downtime blip (10 minutes) in over 2 years
      Same problem here - I've been trying to locate a reliable hosting company comparable with USA offerings (HostGator and BrainHost). Just had a chat with support at JustHost.com and can reliably confirm that they do not have UK servers or data centers - as of October 2012.

      The search continues...
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  • Profile picture of the author dmister
    Will look at Just Host as well Tim. Do you host more than one website with Justhost?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tim3
      Originally Posted by dmister View Post

      Will look at Just Host as well Tim. Do you host more than one website with Justhost?

      Hello again,
      Yes I do I actually have seven small sites on this account, but here is a thing to bear in mind, although all the big hosting companies extol the virtues of everything being unlimited on shared hosting it isn't.

      What you need to worry about are the amount of files (called inodes) you have on your account in total, for most hosts the limit is 50,000 on shared accounts, this sounds like a lot but when you set up several Wordpress installations and then start hossin' in the plug-ins it very quickly puts up the inode count, add in email accounts too and you reach the limit pretty quickly if you do not keep it under control, if everything keep growing you made need to switch up to VPS hosting, which can be upgraded as you grow, or you could open another shared account with a different hosting company, think eggs and baskets!

      Hope this helps
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      • Profile picture of the author dmister
        Originally Posted by Tim3 View Post

        although all the big hosting companies extol the virtues of everything being unlimited on shared hosting it isn't.
        Yes, I had noticed that they all seem keen to shout unlimited and guessed they probably were not!

        I am sure it won`t be too much of an issue at the start anyway and it is reassuring to hear you have had seven sites with no real issues. I will also try to keep the inodes down.

        Thanks for all your advice and for sharing your personal experiences
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        • Profile picture of the author Tim3
          Great stuff.

          If you are with JustHost you can check your inodes by using...

          yoursite.com/inodes.php

          If you do go over the limit they will likely notify you to take remedial action to get below the limit, if you don't they may well suspend your account temporarily.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Davis
    Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

    Then you need UK hosting. It's about as simple as that.

    And here's Matt Cutts, from Google, explaining why you need UK hosting.
    Thanks for sharing Alexa.
    I never knew about this, never actually stopped to consider that.

    Very interesting, I'll look into this some more, as I have several businesses that are 95%+ European Traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author dmister
      Thanks for the advice Tim and Alexa. I will definitely go with a UK Host and will try to decide whether Heart or Justhost after your recommendations and will go with a different domain registrar.
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  • Profile picture of the author slc4us
    Yes Dear You can get hostgator in UK as well and though there are many best hosting providers in the world VPS is also the best hosting to get..
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    • Profile picture of the author susansaunders
      Hmm I didn't realize that, it may be the better choice to go with hostgators uk hosting then as they do a great job with their Us servers.
      Originally Posted by slc4us View Post

      Yes Dear You can get hostgator in UK as well and though there are many best hosting providers in the world VPS is also the best hosting to get..
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by susansaunders View Post

        Hmm I didn't realize that
        But you do now? Accepting the word of a single post from an anonymous forum member from over 6 months ago as reliable and accurate, on the subject, Susan? My information may be out of date, but the last I heard (and this was last year) was that Hostgator offered only dedicated server hosting in the UK, no shared hosting - and I'm not sure if they have even that, now: I suspect not?

        Whoever's right/wrong, it's always a good idea to verify these things, rather than believing that "just because you saw something mentioned once in a thread in the Warrior Forum, it must be true". I'm "just saying", and I intend it helpfully.
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        • Profile picture of the author susansaunders
          Hi Alexa thank you for the clarification, I just heard that someone called them and Hostagtor said they had no servers available for the time being in the UK. Maybe those dedicated servers that they offered previously are all now full. If this is the case hopefully the new management will decide to expand over in Europe more.
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          But you do now? Accepting the word of a single post from an anonymous forum member from over 6 months ago as reliable and accurate, on the subject, Susan? My information may be out of date, but the last I heard (and this was last year) was that Hostgator offered only dedicated server hosting in the UK, no shared hosting. I'm not even sure if they have that, now.

          Whoever's right/wrong, it's always a good idea to verify these things, rather than believing that "just because you saw something mentioned once in a thread in the Warrior Forum, it must be true". I'm "just saying".
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  • Profile picture of the author webcheapservices
    I think if you use hostgator or any other hosting it will be the same for ranking
    its all about the SEO
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by webcheapservices View Post

      I think if you use hostgator or any other hosting it will be the same for ranking
      You didn't click to play the little 90-second video above, then, to see that Google is telling the people the opposite? :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Devjeet
    As I know, Hostgator use to transfer your website to their UK based server (Ref.:- Hostgator Official Forum). You need to raise a ticket for it.
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    • Profile picture of the author micksss
      Originally Posted by Devjeet View Post

      As I know, Hostgator use to transfer your website to their UK based server (Ref.:- Hostgator Official Forum). You need to raise a ticket for it.
      It's worth asking Hostgator about this but from what I understand they were doing a beta program a couple years ago with this so they might not still offer it.
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  • Profile picture of the author sureshots
    Hi, I prefer Hostgator because I like having the option pay on month to month basis! Another thing I'd like to mention is that in my opinion it's a much better idea to purchase your domain name and "Namecheap"
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  • Profile picture of the author Devjeet
    @Sureshots Namecheap could be good alternate of Hostgator. Don't know either they provide UK based web hosting or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author sureshots
    I mention Namecheap for purchasing a domain name. However at the moment I prefer using a hosting company called TMD Hosting. The reason I use them is because they provide tech support for me and my websites! HostGator doesn't provide tech support and I don't like purchasing domains and hosting domains at the same company! because if I leave it becomes problematic. Namecheap makes it easy to switch and also I can have a site up and running in minutes when I purchase my domains at name cheap!
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  • Profile picture of the author seogoa
    I was a very happy hostgator customer with normal traffic to my websites. But when the traffic went up - hostgator sucks Right now a couple of my sites (wordpress ones) are disabled and am planning to move to a vps. Its very expensive though..
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  • Profile picture of the author jaiganeshv
    I did this exactly and ranked my UK targeting site seotraininglondon.org which is for sale in another thread here.

    It works...
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  • Profile picture of the author ultimates
    Host in the UK for a .co.UK domain. Many benefits as to why and I see that people have already posted as to why above.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasono
    I'd host in the UK since you want your domain to have .co.uk. Also, I think you'd have better chances of getting a good rank in UK for hosting it in UK hosting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Godhand
    hello Dmister,.
    If you targeting UK site, its better to host in UK hosting,.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bomtik
    Marblehost provides quality hosting in UK.
    Prices are quite affordable and services are resourceful.
    Why not trying them?
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  • Profile picture of the author dmister
    Thanks for all the replies, will go with a UK host.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
    I recommended Vidahost in another thread asking for UK hosting...
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  • use both - then you won't have all your bags in one basket. I actually have 4 hosting companies. I keep wanting to switch to a dedicated server with one company instead, but have never had the time - besides it does give me some diversity.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyLaws
    I would suggest you to use UK host, as the closer the servers are to your potential audience, the faster the page will load. The faster the page loads - the more happy your clients will be. You can check my free hosting for speed on the USA based server, you will find it good, but you will always find local provider better.
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  • Profile picture of the author sunray
    There is no reason why you should limit yourself in any way on this question. Your visitors will never know if the site resides in UK or US, the speed is the same. Speed only depends on the server load. The only difference there is, you will have to pay VAT if you choose a British company. And, if your site grows, maybe you'll want your own IP, secure server, VPS etc., and the money to be taken away by the government will be quite significant.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4DayWeekend
      Definitely UK hosting for the reasons already explained in this thread. I have my sites based on UK hosting for my offline businesses and US based hosting for most of my IM stuff...

      A few years ago I worked on a government funded project here in the UK where we helped build websites for free for hundreds of SME's. They all purchased their own hosting and we built the sites - so I've worked with quite a few hosts.

      Generally, the truth is most are much of a muchness but I've found myself recommending Vidahost.com to anyone that asks (Don't be fooled by the .com, they are UK based).

      I recommend them because out of all of the hosts because their service was as good as any other but their support was second to none. Super responsive, polite and I never had to wait more than 10 mins for a ticket to be answered. They have a jam packed cpanel (unlike some of the UK hosts where you have to contact them just for database access) and I never experienced any downtime with them. Highly recommended.
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  • Profile picture of the author dillon5
    host gator is great but then again i haven't used the other one.
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  • Profile picture of the author nonin
    UK hosting companies that will provide the same terms as HostGator are much, much more expensive.

    I love HostGator and some of UK websites I host even rank #1 and #2 after certain keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author stevenrenolds
      Agreed nonin, I know of a few people located in the uk that use host gator for their websites. I spoke with one of them recently and he actually experienced better performance with hostgator compared to local UK hosts that he had recently experimented with.
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      UK hosting companies that will provide the same terms as HostGator are much, much more expensive.

      I love HostGator and some of UK websites I host even rank #1 and #2 after certain keywords.
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    Thanks for all the replies!
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  • Profile picture of the author Anthony171
    I have a classifieds website and I use host gator. The support team did a great job helping me out with some problems and questions I had.
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    I am a happy user of hostgator. They have been serving some of my sites for years, and never had a problem. It is the kind of company that I have no problems in recommending. I also don't se why it wouldn't work for UK customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author locke815
    If you want to rank higher in the UK, you will need a UK host
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    Hostgator and it's not even close for me. The best host I've ever had.
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  • Profile picture of the author natas105
    I'm in the netherlands and I use hostgator. Never had any problems
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  • Profile picture of the author pharmer100
    I am in the UK and host location is something I never even considdered. Is going to be hard to give up the customer service of hostgator though - it never fails to impress me.
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  • Profile picture of the author abeng
    If you want visitor from UK, better to host at UK server.. So your visitor more faster to load your web than host at US..
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  • Profile picture of the author Adamw
    I'm in uk and unlimitedwebhosting is a good one I've not put a .co.uk on but the .coms and .nets rank well and load quick. They have great support help too.
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  • Profile picture of the author hadtic
    Have several .co.uk sites and have used Heart and 1&1 and to be honest both suck so now i use hostgator for everything. Having your hosting in the country to match your domain makes no difference at all. Go with whats best for your budget but dont get hooked that you have to host in the same country.
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