So Who's Raking It In With Membership Sites?

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Hey Warriors,

I recently came to hear that one marketer was making around $12,000 a month with his products but then he decided to start using the membership continuity model and now earns $200,000 per month.

Anyone who's been into IM will know about this guy. That $200,000 p/m is his trademark.

I'm considering setting a membership site up just to build a list.

So who here's raking it in with membership sites?
#killing #membership #sites
  • Profile picture of the author Ashish Poonia
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    Originally Posted by The Marketeer View Post

    Hey Warriors,

    I recently came to hear that one marketer was making around $12,000 a month with his products but then he decided to using the membership continuity model and now earns $200,000 per month.

    Anyone who's been into IM will know about this guy. That $200,000 p/m is his trademark.

    I'm considering setting a membership site up just to build a list.

    So who here's killing it with membership sites?
    $200,000 per month!! Quite huge income...Really membership websites are a great way to earn a steady income.
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  • Profile picture of the author denisjor
    Yeah, I heard that a membership site is the way to go. I would be interested in hearing what others have to say as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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        Originally Posted by Jimmy Mailhot View Post

        I started mine in the MMO niche with many other marketers, Jamie Lewis was supporting us as well and it didn't came too well. Forget about membership sites, no one will pay for them, everyone will take the content away and ask for a refund...

        One-time sales are the best, just keep being consistent, build you list, grow it using affiliate sales, build 1 product every 2-3 months and you'll be VERY wealthy.
        Don't give them all access to all content up front. You have to have GOOD content and then you have to DRIP it to them. People WILL pay if you provide value.

        I do agree with you though on making your own products. I would just add, instead creating and trying to sell $27 ebooks every 1 or 2 months, take a few months and develop one PREMIUM product ($197-$497 range) and then all you have to do is sell one of these a day to make a nice living. Heck, on the backend you could offer a simple $5.95/month little membership/subscription to a related weekly report as well. Why not? People won't hesitate to take the offer if they are about to spend $197. Think about it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
        Originally Posted by Jimmy Mailhot View Post

        I started mine in the MMO niche with many other marketers, Jamie Lewis was supporting us as well and it didn't came too well. Forget about membership sites, no one will pay for them, everyone will take the content away and ask for a refund...
        :rolleyes:

        Poor lucky. Second post I see form you, and second one with wrong advice.

        So, just because you couldn't find a way with membership sites, they're all a bad system? A non profitable technique? Have you ever considered other markets? I mean, there are membership sites making thousands of dollars per month - and at least one of them made 11 Million Dollars last year.

        Ai ai ai...
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  • Profile picture of the author Lou Diamond
    Hello,
    if anyone is looking to start a ebook membership site pm me as I have a very rich aged keyword domain that I am not doing anything with, I am not looking to sell just looking to do a partnership.
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  • Profile picture of the author edy8888
    Membership sites assure you to make your passive income steadily.
    with combination with forum inside the membership site, will make the members sticky to pay monthly.
    1 advice. create value
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    • Profile picture of the author philipdwyer
      I have always heard that membership sites are the way to go since it is easier to keep current customer than finding new customer.
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      • Profile picture of the author Wide
        Originally Posted by philipdwyer View Post

        I have always heard that membership sites are the way to go since it is easier to keep current customer than finding new customer.
        You still have to find new customers though.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshDylan
    I run a gaming clan/forum with membership pricing and I currently make around $15000.00 a month. My only expenses is for the gaming servers which ends up being around $4000.00 a month.

    Membership based sites can make a lot of money depending on how many active users there is.
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  • Profile picture of the author mystockanalysis
    Membership site is what I aim to eventually do with my stock analysis blog. I have something unique in that I have an algorithm that automatically scores stocks for trading decisions. After building up a track record (stage I am in now), I can change over to a membership or "faster access to the results".

    I am fairly new to all of this and generating traffic. Any PRO's would like to think about partnering and helping me with getting the traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    if you are looking to start a membership site search for Ryan Lee, he not only does it well himself he knows how to teach it in a what that is easy to duplicate
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  • Profile picture of the author grover69
    Gonna check out Ryan Lee for sure. I think the toughest thing with membership sites is finding people to sign up!
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      • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
        Originally Posted by beks001 View Post

        Isn't it just as tough to get someone to whip out a credit card for a one time purchase too?
        Exactly. It has to do with what you have to offer and how you pitch it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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        Originally Posted by beks001 View Post

        Isn't it just as tough to get someone to whip out a credit card for a one time purchase too?
        Why not give them a free trial?
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        • Profile picture of the author The Marketeer
          Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan View Post

          Why not give them a free trial?
          Free Trials are a good way to get them in the door but your offer HAS to be good enough for them to want to stay on as a paid member.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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            Originally Posted by The Marketeer View Post

            Free Trials are a good way to get them in the door but your offer HAS to be good enough for them to want to stay on as a paid member.
            Exactly, and your membership site should be good enough to impress them enough in a free trial. If not, then even if they pay up front, they won't stick around for long or even just ask for a refund right away.
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    Anyone have a link for Ryan Lee?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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    Heck, even if you go small in a niche and ask only $9/month, send out an info-packed weekly report in that niche to them (automate through Aweber), the numbers can add up...

    100 Members = $900/Month
    250 Members = $2,250/Month
    500 Members = $4,500/Month
    750 Members = $6,750/Month
    1000 Members = $9,000/Month

    The key is RETENTION. Make the reports good. And you can even bump that income up with a few focused affiliate offers along the way.

    Just imagine if you setup 3, 5, 10+ of these "micro" membership subscription sites?

    I'm doing this exact same thing right now in a niche. I've just started though, and have roughly 10 members and haven't really heavily promoted it at all yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author Justin Says
      I just recently started working with membership websites.

      I'm currently making about $3,000/mo with them, but over the next few months I plan to expand upon my ideas and get it to the point of pulling in $50,000/mo.

      BUT.

      That's only because I have some knowledge that others want.

      Don't create a membership website unless you have something to offer of value.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Marketeer
        Originally Posted by Justin Lewis View Post


        Don't create a membership website unless you have something to offer of value.
        Yes, I think that's the key factor with membership sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author adrwcav
        I've got the same goal man. I'm building my pre launch list as we speak and hoping to launch in the summer once i think my list is large enough. What kind of conversion rates are you seeing..?

        Originally Posted by Justin Lewis View Post

        I just recently started working with membership websites.

        I'm currently making about $3,000/mo with them, but over the next few months I plan to expand upon my ideas and get it to the point of pulling in $50,000/mo.

        BUT.

        That's only because I have some knowledge that others want.

        Don't create a membership website unless you have something to offer of value.
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      • Profile picture of the author rickhodge
        Dane has it right... don't offer a membership unless you have something to offer...very true!
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    • Profile picture of the author The Marketeer
      Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan View Post

      Heck, even if you go small in a niche and ask only $9/month, send out an info-packed weekly report in that niche to them (automate through Aweber), the numbers can add up...

      100 Members = $900/Month
      250 Members = $2,250/Month
      500 Members = $4,500/Month
      750 Members = $6,750/Month
      1000 Members = $9,000/Month

      The key is RETENTION. Make the reports good. And you can even bump that income up with a few focused affiliate offers along the way.

      Just imagine if you setup 3, 5, 10+ of these "micro" membership subscription sites?

      I'm doing this exact same thing right now in a niche. I've just started though, and have roughly 10 members and haven't really heavily promoted it at all yet.
      Yeh, It's also a numbers game.

      Oh and don't forget the OTO's, the Backend Upsells, Downsells, The Nurturing, Cross Promotions, Affiliates and JV's.

      It's all in the game.
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    That was my point with the post ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author denisjor
    I have to say....most (not all) marketers are lazy...that's why we try and figure out how to make thousands a month without having to do any real work.

    Membership sites take a lot of baby-sitting....but they do pay off however.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Marketeer
      Originally Posted by denisjor View Post

      I have to say....most (not all) marketers are lazy...that's why we try and figure out how to make thousands a month without having to do any real work.

      Membership sites take a lot of baby-sitting....but they do pay off however.
      That's one way to look at it.

      The way I see it is that time is precious. We've got to leverage our time by making the most of technology sort of like Bill Gates.

      If I can work hard at something for a couple of months or even 6 months solid and then have more time to do the things I enjoy and value in life then I see that as leveraging my time rather than being lazy. You're still doing real work but just using technology and the membership model to maximise your efforts.
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    I love membership sites. working on one now.
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  • Profile picture of the author denisjor
    If I can work hard at something for a couple of months or even 6 months solid and then have more time to do the things I enjoy and value in life than I see that as leveraging my time rather than being lazy.
    Good point....it's funny. I sit in front of my computer for 8-13 hours a day, 7 days a week, and I think of myself as a lazy marketer....how sad is that. :rolleyes:

    Looking for the easy push button solution...been doing it for over 3 years now....and still looking... (not really, gave up looking cuz it doesn't exist)

    I do work hard at what I'm doing, and loving it btw. But, I'm with "The Marketer", bust your you-no-what for a few months, get it making money, then move onto the next venture.
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  • Profile picture of the author gasman
    I know a few other marketers who are "killing it" with membership sites. Here's the kicker though, you can't just make a membership site with junk behind the scenes. The object of a membership site is to make residuals on people continuing to pay for their membership. You can be the best copywriter in the world, but if what's behind the doors isn't valuable, you can't expect repeat business. The people making a killing with membership sites are the ones that keep their member area worth paying for.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    Although the importance of niche selection is often overblown, I have found that it is very important in creating membership sites.

    I found a niche which is very quiet on the Internet, but which people pay a lot of money every month for in their private clubs. I was the first-- and I might still be the only-- person to monetize this niche online in a huge way.

    If you can find niches like that-- which are huge in the "offline" world and are not yet online-- You will find that a membership site is extremely profitable (whereas the standard traffic --> salespage is not necessarily going to work very well). eBooks be damned, you can sell everything.

    On that one site, I sell the membership, physical products, books and audio... Currently I am producing a series of 30-second videos in which the least expensive is a thousand dollars.

    But, don't think you're going to go from $12,000 to $200K per month without some significant work-- not on a steady basis, anyway, month-after-month and year-after-year.

    The bottom line is that content + community = money.
    The higher the quality of your content, and the stronger your community,
    the more money you are going to make.

    Best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author edy8888
    I think membership site is better if you go with team, and remember you must be focused on something you wanna to offer.
    e.g if first you offer about gaming, dont ever mix with the heavy machine..
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Says
    I started my first 2 membership websites with team members and I believe it's the way to go as well. But they have to reliable. Luckily I have team members that I can trust with anything and don't have to worry about something going wrong.

    It can be tough finding good, honest, and reliable people, so be wary.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Marketeer
      Originally Posted by Justin Lewis View Post

      I started my first 2 membership websites with team members and I believe it's the way to go as well. But they have to reliable. Luckily I have team members that I can trust with anything and don't have to worry about something going wrong.

      It can be tough finding good, honest, and reliable people, so be wary.
      Yeh, I guess that's a very important part of the equation. I'm in the process of building a team myself.

      Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author asepkomara
    Nice thread. I'm about to starting up creating a membership site in MLM downline builder system. Wish me luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author humili
    Quality still beats it all. Without high value of content, even membership sites closed down too. Quality ! Quality ! Quality!
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    • Profile picture of the author LadyJana
      True, and without quality, you won't have any retention either.
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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    I do pretty good with membership sites but not the traditional subscription, never ending types.

    It takes work, planning and the right product and membership model to be honest.

    What many don't tell you is that you can spend months and tons of money setting one up only for it to fail.

    So I prefer small / mini memberships. Low risk, quick launch... then if they get traction I will scale them with back end products and services.
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  • Profile picture of the author quiescen
    Killing it? I'm not killing it, but I've been running a piano membership site for 10 years now. That's a lifetime in the IM world.

    Started slow only charging $6.95 a month. Now up to $39 a month.

    Those who talked about content being key are 100% correct. Further, you must OVERDELIVER ON VALUE! That is what will keep subscribers.

    Retention rate is important because if you can't keep em, you're not in the membership business.

    I succeed because I'm also in a very narrow niche market.

    One more thing ... if you're not committed and passionate about what you do, your members will notice and it will hurt your business.

    Yes, you'll have steady income, but you'd better be willing to give it your all.
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    • Profile picture of the author MusicMinCoach
      Originally Posted by quiescen View Post

      Killing it? I'm not killing it, but I've been running a piano membership site for 10 years now. That's a lifetime in the IM world.

      Started slow only charging $6.95 a month. Now up to $39 a month.

      Those who talked about content being key are 100% correct. Further, you must OVERDELIVER ON VALUE! That is what will keep subscribers.

      Retention rate is important because if you can't keep em, you're not in the membership business.

      I succeed because I'm also in a very narrow niche market.

      One more thing ... if you're not committed and passionate about what you do, your members will notice and it will hurt your business.

      Yes, you'll have steady income, but you'd better be willing to give it your all.
      It's great to see another Warrior member running a music-related membership site! I'm a vocal coach, so I'd love to chat with you about what's working for you, which software you use, which membership model, etc. Congrats on all your success so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    I do have specialized knowledge, but I am not quite sure how to sell it using a membership site.... yet...
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
    I have three membership sites. One has been up for five years - but re-launching next month. Most of the subscribers on there have been with me paying monthly for all five years.

    My second one has been up for 26 months. They have all been paying me for 26 months. I don't market it a all.

    My third started in December. Retention is great so far.

    Moral of the story - offer great value. Don't try and open one selling what everyone else is selling. Create your own quality products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anton Nadilo
    Great thread.

    I am currently working on launching three membership sites this year.

    Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author Anton Nadilo
    Oh...I honestly beleive that with the right offer and right marketing getting people to sign up is never an issue. So many membership siters have continued to prove this time and tiome again.

    Obviously retention is the second factor and as long as you are adding and supplying value to your members the drop off rate can be kept to a minimum.

    Cheers

    Anton
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    • Profile picture of the author hilear
      I have an idea to start a membership site but need some help on the technical side of setting up the site/system.

      Can you suggest any good WSOs that talk about setting up membership sites?

      I saw that Ryan Lee was mentioned in the thread above.

      Where can a newbie to setting up Membership sites get some training? Suggestions.
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        Originally Posted by hilear View Post

        I have an idea to start a membership site but need some help on the technical side of setting up the site/system.

        Can you suggest any good WSOs that talk about setting up membership sites?

        I saw that Ryan Lee was mentioned in the thread above.

        Where can a newbie to setting up Membership sites get some training? Suggestions.
        Forget all the nonsense, get with steve at rapidresidualpro.com
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      • Profile picture of the author The Marketeer
        Originally Posted by hilear View Post

        I have an idea to start a membership site but need some help on the technical side of setting up the site/system.

        Can you suggest any good WSOs that talk about setting up membership sites?

        I saw that Ryan Lee was mentioned in the thread above.

        Where can a newbie to setting up Membership sites get some training? Suggestions.
        There are some good WSO's on building membership sites. Just use the search function.

        Digital Access Pass is the recommendation of Peter Beattie. He uses it with Optimize Press. It's quite technical. There is an option where you can have someone help you get it set up at an extra cost. (FTR: I have no affiliation with any of these)

        There's also a free plugin called S2 Member or something which allows you to password protect your wordpresss content and integrate paypal.

        These are the most popular types of software being used however there are also other membership scripts which are quite reasonably priced and set up can be outsourced easily.

        To get an idea just look at some of the free membership sites and look at their layouts and structure.

        There is also some good free content on this topic if you just do a keyword search.
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  • Profile picture of the author CBusiness
    I did a member for sneaker collectors back in like 2006 / 2007. Did excellent. I sold the business and all memberships after raking in nearly 6 figs.

    People are lazy. rarely cancel. Keep the membership without even using. It's pretty interesting to see.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wide
      Originally Posted by CBusiness View Post

      People are lazy. rarely cancel. Keep the membership without even using. It's pretty interesting to see.
      Exactly. I had a small membership site some years ago. A couple of my members was paying $10/mo for close to 2 years, they only used it in the first couple of months but kept paying. A lot of people are too lazy to cancel.
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  • Profile picture of the author Devin X
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    Originally Posted by The Marketeer View Post

    Hey Warriors,

    I recently came to hear that one marketer was making around $12,000 a month with his products but then he decided to start using the membership continuity model and now earns $200,000 per month.

    Anyone who's been into IM will know about this guy. That $200,000 p/m is his trademark.

    I'm considering setting a membership site up just to build a list.

    So who here's killing it with membership sites?

    Funny you would say that! I'm launching my membership site tomorrow!

    So far we got 86 members and I'm hoping tomorrow will be crazy! The monthly cashflow is what I'm aiming for...even an extra 10,000 a month would be awesome!

    Let's keep in touch, and I'll let you know how it's going!
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    • Profile picture of the author The Marketeer
      Originally Posted by TheRealDudeman View Post

      Funny you would say that! I'm launching my membership site tomorrow!

      So far we got 86 members and I'm hoping tomorrow will be crazy! The monthly cashflow is what I'm aiming for...even an extra 10,000 a month would be awesome!

      Let's keep in touch, and I'll let you know how it's going!
      Yeh sure.

      All the best with your launch. Looks interesting.
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    • Profile picture of the author refrud
      Originally Posted by TheRealDudeman View Post

      Funny you would say that! I'm launching my membership site tomorrow!

      So far we got 86 members and I'm hoping tomorrow will be crazy! The monthly cashflow is what I'm aiming for...even an extra 10,000 a month would be awesome!

      Let's keep in touch, and I'll let you know how it's going!
      That is awesome! I am a bit confused though, how do you know you have 86 members if you haven't even launched yet?

      Im sure its me, but do you mind explaining that to me?

      Thanks in advance.
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      • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
        I just want to thank the Marketeer for starting this thread. And all the Guru's who shared their experiences and knowledge.

        If all goes well I will meet you all at the crossroads.

        ps: any of you guys ever thought about taking on the big boys just for the heck of it???
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  • yeah, at first it is hard to think people aren't getting the benefits they paid for but sometimes you just can't help them so if they don't read the wso they buy, you might as well get recurring on it too
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  • Profile picture of the author Entrecon
    If you are running a membership site, or developing one, what software are you using? aMember? Wishlist? DAP?
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    • Profile picture of the author Anton Nadilo
      Originally Posted by Entrecon View Post

      If you are running a membership site, or developing one, what software are you using? aMember? Wishlist? DAP?
      We have used Wishlist/OP/WP for some our product launches but are moving most of our new launches to the Kajabi Platform. This provides excellent funcitionality and a very professional image and the customer support is excellent.

      What do you use?

      Cheers

      Anton
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    • Profile picture of the author DustonMcGroarty
      Originally Posted by Entrecon View Post

      If you are running a membership site, or developing one, what software are you using? aMember? Wishlist? DAP?
      I have used a number of different membership models using different tools for each one.

      Traditional Model
      I have 5 traditional sites all using the traditional model where protected content and/or training is provided for a monthly fee.

      I used the following software/tools for this setup:

      -Wordpress (content management)
      -Optimizepress (membership site design)
      -Wishlist Member (membership software)

      60-Minute Membership Model
      I recently started using this model to get a membership site up and running quickly with the ability to add paying members faster.

      This model only requires an autoresponder (a domain and hosting are optional).

      Paid Forum
      This is another type of model I have setup and runs very well. The members create all the content... doesn't get any better than this!

      Software used for this model:

      -Wordpress
      -Wishlist Member
      -Simple Press Forum (Free)
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  • Membership sites are a great way to get your income building on a recurring basis. Its very effective wy to automate your profits.
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  • Profile picture of the author Enirose Gabales
    $200,000? what a monthly income is it really worthless to invest?


    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Wide
      Originally Posted by Enirose Gabales View Post

      $200,000? what a monthly income is it really worthless to invest?


      Thanks
      You need to invest more than money to earn that much.
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      • Profile picture of the author Justin Says
        Originally Posted by Wide View Post

        You need to invest more than money to earn that much.
        I agree that you need to invest time, dedication, and patience.

        But money isn't the way to look at it. If you want to succeed, start from the ground up. There are so many companies out there that started with nothing at all and have become some of the largest in the world.

        Money isn't everything.
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        • Profile picture of the author The Marketeer
          Originally Posted by Justin Lewis View Post

          I agree that you need to invest time, dedication, and patience.

          But money isn't the way to look at it. If you want to succeed, start from the ground up. There are so many companies out there that started with nothing at all and have become some of the largest in the world.

          Money isn't everything.
          Yeh dude

          Value first => Then comes the money

          All the pros say you've gotta be passionate about the niche that you choose otherwise you probably won't last the distance needed to make it profitable.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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            Originally Posted by The Marketeer View Post


            All the pros say you've gotta be passionate about the niche that you choose otherwise you probably won't last the distance needed to make it profitable.
            Not true. Be careful who you listen to as "pros". I made nearly $100k a year for about 3 years straight in a niche I did not like. The thing is, once I had the product and "system" setup, it ran on it's own.
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            • Profile picture of the author The Marketeer
              Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan View Post

              Not true. Be careful who you listen to as "pros". I made nearly $100k a year for about 3 years straight in a niche I did not like. The thing is, once I had the product and "system" setup, it ran on it's own.
              Hmm... Interesting.

              Do I hear a WSO coming up?
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            • Profile picture of the author DustonMcGroarty
              Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan View Post

              Not true. Be careful who you listen to as "pros". I made nearly $100k a year for about 3 years straight in a niche I did not like. The thing is, once I had the product and "system" setup, it ran on it's own.
              I agree with Dayne here... there's a lot of profitable niches I have absolutely no interest in at all. But I LOVE making money!
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        • Profile picture of the author mjw
          Originally Posted by Justin Lewis View Post

          I agree that you need to invest time, dedication, and patience.

          But money isn't the way to look at it. If you want to succeed, start from the ground up. There are so many companies out there that started with nothing at all and have become some of the largest in the world.

          Money isn't everything.
          Justin,

          I've been meaning to ask you, what membership plugin/script are you currently using on your membership sites?

          Thanks,

          Matt
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          • Profile picture of the author Justin Says
            Originally Posted by mjw View Post

            Justin,

            I've been meaning to ask you, what membership plugin/script are you currently using on your membership sites?

            Thanks,

            Matt
            I don't know if I'm supposed to mention that inside of Warrior Forum itself but I'll message you directly.

            I've dabbled a bit with WordPress and honest, it's all you really need, I just like things to be setup specifically for my intentions.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeremiahSay
    The key to membership site success is to offer $1 one month trial or FREE one month trial.. That's what I did, the conversion rates is at least 75% better this way.. OF course there will be people who opt-off during the first month but there will still be substantial amount of people who will stay active as a member paying you recurring income.

    Offer something in your membership which you think will greatly help others

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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by JeremiahSay View Post

      The key to membership site success is to offer $1 one month trial or FREE one month trial.. That's what I did, the conversion rates is at least 75% better this way.. OF course there will be people who opt-off during the first month but there will still be substantial amount of people who will stay active as a member paying you recurring income.

      Offer something in your membership which you think will greatly help others

      Jeremiah
      yes in all our testing, you want to make it really really hard for them to say NO!.

      Comes with good copy and a good offer, and most the times you rarely see this.

      So be different and offer something that makes them say "PHHHOAAR! I want to get on this deal!"
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  • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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    Heck, I give a free trial, and I keep the monthly fee under $10. The advantage of this is...

    1. They can see if the content is good. It allows you to prove it.

    2. It's a free trial, it reduces their risk and it shows you are confident about it.

    3. The price is under $10 which almost anyone can afford.

    4. With the price being under $10 a month, it is easy to over-deliver value to them.

    5. And lastly, people are indeed lazy. They may use it for a month or two...and then even if they lose interest, they usually stay on several more months because they are too lazy to cancel and the low price point.


    As far as setting it up, it's easy to use Wordpress, Paypal, Aweber and/or a plugin for Wordpress like Wishlist Member. It doesn't have to be complicated.
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    • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
      You guys are making me think I should have started off finishing up my membership sites first lol.

      I don't know where I developed the habit of doing the hard stuff first, but I will definitely get those membership sites up and running real soon.

      Membership sites are hott. I initially was working towards competing with the major social sites. Then I came into IM and knowing that a lot of so called smaller sites have 100k to 500k members, when I realized that Guru's and Major marketers were charging 97 to 300 a pop and sometimes more. I realized that even though there is a lot of talk about facebook and other social sites these guys were quietly raking in the billions and that's even before they push any products.
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  • Profile picture of the author jumbojeff
    Is there a way to create a membership site where I get whitelabel products from other people and put them all on one site? I want to give the customer a login and have access to all the products from different companies, etc. Is this possible??? Is that how a membership site works??? :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author The Marketeer
      Originally Posted by jumbojeff View Post

      Is there a way to create a membership site where I get whitelabel products from other people and put them all on one site? I want to give the customer a login and have access to all the products from different companies, etc. Is this possible??? Is that how a membership site works??? :rolleyes:
      Yes there is.

      Just read some of the replies on this thread.

      Also search the forum and the WSO section. There's tons of resources available dude.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anton Nadilo
    Membership sites follow the formula of some very sage I once received..

    DO THE WORK ONCE GET PAID MANY TIMES

    Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammed Hammad2
    Hey The Marketeer great discussion thread you've started here.

    About your search results for the membership topics, what search phrase exactly did you type in the search box?

    Many thanks,
    Mohamed
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    • Profile picture of the author The Marketeer
      Originally Posted by MidMido View Post

      Hey The Marketeer great discussion thread you've started here.

      About your search results for the membership topics, what search phrase exactly did you type in the search box?

      Many thanks,
      Mohamed
      Just type in "How to kill it with membership sites"

      Also try, "How to build a Membership Site" or "Membership Site Ideas/Riches". "Profiting from Membership Sites". There's a lot of WSO's right in this forum.

      Also check Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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    Nope. I do a weekly PDF report and it seems to be doing fine without any other content.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMHunter
    200,000 per month That is a good income.

    I am also planning to start a membership site, but the problem is Content and Initial Members.
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    • Profile picture of the author specialized
      Originally Posted by IMHunter View Post

      200,000 per month That is a good income.
      Either you are a master of understatement, or my financial barometer is in severe need of recalibration.

      $200,000 a month is not merely "a good income."

      For an individual running a home office type business, $200,000 a month is astronomical, obscene, incredible, unfathomable (to me anyway), mind-blowing, earth-shattering, apoplexy-inducing, and beyond the wildest dreams of 98% of the population.

      Calling $200,000 a month "good income" is like calling the Taj Mahal "a decent little house in India." It's like calling a Boeing 757 "a cute little bird."
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Hansen
        I have been running a membership site for a year now in a very narrow niche.

        As many states it is not set and forget.

        But what it can do really good if you have a forum or something then let the members contribute and let that be some of the content. Many of our members are really writing good content to our forum inside.

        Then of course you need to add value your self.

        Let me know if I can help you Warrior to Warrior.

        Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Roarke
    Membership sites are good for the kind of recurring income that exists widely in the offline world but that was slow to develop in the IM world.
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  • Profile picture of the author Skaught27
    Building a Membership site has always been an interest of mine, although I don't really know what niche to get into. I can't see myself paying for a membership site unless it provided outstanding value.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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    Here is a tip:

    Why not do something like 4 monthly reports, one goes out weekly to them. Every other one is some sort of interview with an expert in the field? What you could do is create a 10 question form and send it to various "experts" and have them answer the questions. Maybe even pay them a minimal amount to do so.

    The other weekly reports would just have some really good info on that niche, maybe some links to resources, tips, etc. But be sure to hype up the upcoming report about the next week interview report. That way they have something to anticipate.

    Now of course, this model won't last for years...but it would be a good idea for a fixed membeship model of maybe 6 months. That would be 24 reports, 12 of them interview reports. Totally doable in many niches.

    You could charge something like $9/month. Reasonable. And the good thing is, as noted earlier...people tend to stick with fixed membership sites because they know there is an end, and 6 months is not long.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zarathushtra
    Low prices membership sites are good and represent, in my opinion, a win-win on all the aspects.

    But keeping updated on the long run big membership sites ( I mean >$100 per month) is an hard job, even for the most stakhanovite marketer.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    I've been doing them for almost 5 years now, I've got a few running now. I have made a lot from them and have a couple tips:

    1.) Never reveal how many members you have. Competitors and would be competitors get too tempted to copy you and launch their own. I have experienced this more then once already.

    2.) It's NOT set and forget or passive income. It's daily work and a lot of it to keep members happy. You could have all the content in the world, but if you're not in there helping daily, members do not stick around, (and rightly so).

    3.) They don't work in every niche. Again I speak from experience. Some niches you would think would do awesome flop. The offline world doesn't get it yet and put membership sites or recurring billing in the "scam" category automatically.

    4.) Give members what they want THEN give them what they need. I'm learning this the hard way as over the years I've tried to give them what they need first. I'm learning that people have very weird mindsets and focus on things that simply don't matter. So instead of fighting members on what they need, give them what they want then give them what they need.

    5.) If you're alone in a niche, shut up about it. Competitors can and will copy you in a heartbeat. They'll take your whole system, put new lipstick on it and call it their own.

    6.) If you can, remove yourself from the equation making selling the site down the road easier. If you open "Bob Smith's Making Money Online Site" and try to sell it, you can't. They're buying Bob Smith. Instead open a site where you are either not known by real name or make it so someone can come in and replace you easily.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mohammed Hammad2
      Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

      I've been doing them for almost 5 years now, I've got a few running now. I have made a lot from them and have a couple tips:

      1.) Never reveal how many members you have. Competitors and would be competitors get too tempted to copy you and launch their own. I have experienced this more then once already.

      2.) It's NOT set and forget or passive income. It's daily work and a lot of it to keep members happy. You could have all the content in the world, but if you're not in there helping daily, members do not stick around, (and rightly so).

      3.) They don't work in every niche. Again I speak from experience. Some niches you would think would do awesome flop. The offline world doesn't get it yet and put membership sites or recurring billing in the "scam" category automatically.

      4.) Give members what they want THEN give them what they need. I'm learning this the hard way as over the years I've tried to give them what they need first. I'm learning that people have very weird mindsets and focus on things that simply don't matter. So instead of fighting members on what they need, give them what they want then give them what they need.

      5.) If you're alone in a niche, shut up about it. Competitors can and will copy you in a heartbeat. They'll take your whole system, put new lipstick on it and call it their own.

      6.) If you can, remove yourself from the equation making selling the site down the road easier. If you open "Bob Smith's Making Money Online Site" and try to sell it, you can't. They're buying Bob Smith. Instead open a site where you are either not known by real name or make it so someone can come in and replace you easily.
      If only you would talk more and more about membership sites!

      Great tips Coach. wish to see you share more about your valuable insights about membership sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Walter Parrish
      Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

      I've been doing them for almost 5 years now, I've got a few running now. I have made a lot from them and have a couple tips:

      1.) Never reveal how many members you have. Competitors and would be competitors get too tempted to copy you and launch their own. I have experienced this more then once already.

      2.) It's NOT set and forget or passive income. It's daily work and a lot of it to keep members happy. You could have all the content in the world, but if you're not in there helping daily, members do not stick around, (and rightly so).

      3.) They don't work in every niche. Again I speak from experience. Some niches you would think would do awesome flop. The offline world doesn't get it yet and put membership sites or recurring billing in the "scam" category automatically.

      4.) Give members what they want THEN give them what they need. I'm learning this the hard way as over the years I've tried to give them what they need first. I'm learning that people have very weird mindsets and focus on things that simply don't matter. So instead of fighting members on what they need, give them what they want then give them what they need.

      5.) If you're alone in a niche, shut up about it. Competitors can and will copy you in a heartbeat. They'll take your whole system, put new lipstick on it and call it their own.

      6.) If you can, remove yourself from the equation making selling the site down the road easier. If you open "Bob Smith's Making Money Online Site" and try to sell it, you can't. They're buying Bob Smith. Instead open a site where you are either not known by real name or make it so someone can come in and replace you easily.
      The problem I have with giving them what they want is I don't know what they want. Seems to me like people are basically lazy, they rather deal in small talk and dreams then to deal with reality. So I have to confess I honestly don't know what they want other than the fluff.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Marketeer
    Originally Posted by Marcinao View Post

    Membership site business model is without a doubt great and can be very profitable. Just look what most various startups in tech world do - they build their payment models on memberships, it gives them a stable source of income, while they can focus on marketing and customer service.
    Having a software product is the best way to go if one want to have an automated business, it's for sure less work than delivering reports or ebooks on a weekly basis. However, in future I'll try first the second, content route. Why? It's easier to implement, takes less money and risk.

    Moreover, if you create some kind of reports, data, files (example: graphics, audio) for your own projects that can be used by other without causing you problems (competition etc.) you've already have something to deliver. And that's gonna be my case in some time.
    I recently saw a dude's story who makes more than 10,000/month because he did this.

    I just wonder what works for you most: do you build just membership sites where all content is locked and you promote your "sales page" or do you connect them with some free content, for example blogs (which you promote) and if someone wants to get additional information they need to become paying members?
    I noticed that one of my biggest issues is that I always need to know where to send traffic so get most of it, especially when I'm using paid traffic...
    Yes if we take a look at some other membership models running successfully we find:

    Taxes (They bring in a nice amount without fail for "the suits" to play around with)
    Magazine Subscriptions
    Newspaper Subscriptions
    Car Insurance
    Medical Insurance
    Specialist Research Databases
    Business Services

    etc. etc.

    From what I've noticed, the membership sites that give you a free 7-30 day trial are good as they let you experience the content before you commit to it. People are much likely to try out something new without paying. But the freebie door must be shut after the trial period is over. This forces them to make a decision.

    Alternatively you could give them some nice juicy bonuses.

    Obviously for them to stay on as paid members, your content must be valuable like something which will help them earn much more than they paid to join.

    You direct them to your sales page with a link to the payment processor offering them the free trial which then takes the regular payment after the trial period is over.

    Simples!
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    I'm building a membership site right now (not in the MMO niche).

    I wouldn't recommend it for newbies. But if you're making $500+ a month in a particular niche then you probably have a potential membership site on your hands.

    I know I'm taking a risk by building this site. But my competitors have been sleeping, and I have been acquiring some technology and ideas that will give them a wake up call. Of course the big question is whether people will sign up to my site...
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  • Profile picture of the author learn
    I have some questions:

    1. For those that do videos. Are you branding your videos with your site url?

    2. On average how long do you let your site continue to drip content? 6 months? 1 year? 2 years?

    3. The 9.99 seems to be a popular price point in this thread. I could do that but I would then cut out some of the content for members depending on what they pay (i.e. 9.99 per month gets less content, those that pay 19.99 per month get a bit more content, those that pay 24,99 per month get more content. Good idea?
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  • I thought I was doing pretty good when I made 10G last year through a membership site.
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    Currently earned around 11k in both March and April. I am all about software marketing at this moment, and I did not earn the money through the SEO tool I am selling in my sig, I am actually losing money due to high investments and such but that's usual for a long term membership tool..

    The current membership site also revolves around a software, it's set up so that people can run the money making technique without the use of the software, but with the software they basically automate a large part of the process, which makes it a huge time saver.. What I am trying to say it that when you provide something that works with a solution that makes something even work better you can easily put a monthly price tag on it.. then outsource your support and there you have it; income on auto pilot for at least a year.

    Then use large sums to invest in even greater things and build your way up to where you want to be, or better said, have to money to buy the experiences you would like to have in your life.
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  • Profile picture of the author equanto
    Originally Posted by The Marketeer View Post

    Hey Warriors,

    I recently came to hear that one marketer was making around $12,000 a month with his products but then he decided to start using the membership continuity model and now earns $200,000 per month.

    Anyone who's been into IM will know about this guy. That $200,000 p/m is his trademark.

    I'm considering setting a membership site up just to build a list.

    So who here's raking it in with membership sites?
    I know who..
    Colin Klinkert met his business partner, Frank Bauer, online in 2007. They launched ViralURL four years ago and the site currently boasts 74,494 members with a total all-time membership count of more than 210,000. Since the launch, Klinkert and Bauer have seen a total income of $3.2 million. ViralURL is a membership site for online business owners with efficiency tools. This includes tools like a "link cloaking" system that allows members to protect their affiliate links and prevent commission theft, and a list builder, which makes it easy for members to grow their list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Says
    It's a pretty simple equation.

    The more members you have in a membership area, the more recurring revenue you have. But you'll also have more cancellations down the road as people aren't going to want to stay a member forever (unless you're an internet provider, Netflix, insurance company, or something of that nature).

    5 members paying $97 a month = $485/mo, average those members to stay at least 3 months and you'll make $1,455 from those members over an average, however it's likely 1 of them might just stay for a lot longer.

    Now let's say those 5 members took 5 days to acquire, that means you acquired 1 member per day.

    If you kept up that same pattern for about 60 days and no one cancelled or refunded by the end of that 60 days you would have $5,820 recurring income and would have made $8,730 because the previous clients would have had their payments recurring the 2nd month.

    Imagine if you could do this all year long.

    1 member per day at $97/mo lets just say no one cancels or refunds to make it easier to estimate.

    That would equal out to 97*365 which is $35,405 monthly recurring income which would be $424,860 annual revenue if you were to keep those members.

    Fun stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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      Originally Posted by Justin Lewis View Post

      It's a pretty simple equation.

      The more members you have in a membership area, the more recurring revenue you have. But you'll also have more cancellations down the road as people aren't going to want to stay a member forever (unless you're an internet provider, Netflix, insurance company, or something of that nature).

      5 members paying $97 a month = $485/mo, average those members to stay at least 3 months and you'll make $1,455 from those members over an average, however it's likely 1 of them might just stay for a lot longer.

      Now let's say those 5 members took 5 days to acquire, that means you acquired 1 member per day.

      If you kept up that same pattern for about 60 days and no one cancelled or refunded by the end of that 60 days you would have $5,820 recurring income and would have made $8,730 because the previous clients would have had their payments recurring the 2nd month.

      Imagine if you could do this all year long.

      1 member per day at $97/mo lets just say no one cancels or refunds to make it easier to estimate.

      That would equal out to 97*365 which is $35,405 monthly recurring income which would be $424,860 annual revenue if you were to keep those members.

      Fun stuff.
      But the reality is landing that $97/month membership sale is no easy feat. And let alone, averaging one a day.

      Probably much easier to sell 5 memberships a day at $9/month (micro-membership) and give them plenty of value each month to justify the price, AND retain them longer. Those little $9/month payouts add up quick and most will stay on for at least 5+ months if the value is there. And giving $9 of value a month is not too hard. Plus, many people are not as concerned with $9/month vs. something that is nearly $100/month. Huge difference.
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      • Profile picture of the author Justin Says
        Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan View Post

        But the reality is landing that $97/month membership sale is no easy feat. And let alone, averaging one a day.

        Probably much easier to sell 5 memberships a day at $9/month (micro-membership) and give them plenty of value each month to justify the price, AND retain them longer. Those little $9/month payouts add up quick and most will stay on for at least 5+ months if the value is there. And giving $9 of value a month is not too hard. Plus, many people are not as concerned with $9/month vs. something that is nearly $100/month. Huge difference.
        To be fair, it's not that difficult. I've sold services alone for $1000+ with very minimal traffic.

        It's all about who you are marketing to and what they want, if you give them what they want, they will pay what they believe its worth and if it's worth $97/mo then they'll pay for it.

        Consider Netflix vs. Cable, Netflix is only like $9/mo for streaming and is absolutely worth it, but people still pay $99/mo for cable.

        Then consider programs out there. There are tons of programs that are free and yet people prefer to pay $200/mo to use something that's pretty similar.

        You have to have something that people want to pay for. Don't just charge $9/mo because you want to make quick sales, charge what the product/membership site is worth to the customer.

        If I can get someone to pay $1000+/mo for 3 months straight, you can absolutely get someone to pay $97/mo for 3 months.

        But to meet that same goal, you'd need to have 11 people paying $9/mo for 3 months.

        Personally my products/services/membership sites are worth more to my clients, hence why they are willing to pay more.

        Last note: I once charged $97 for a service that converted at about 5%, I increased that price to $297 and it converted at 15%. That's 3x more conversions at a higher price. So it's all about what your customers think your product is worth. If you go into the grocery store and see the $1 razors, you're probably more likely to pay for the $15 razor because you feel like your money is better off there. Even though you could have bought 15 of those razors
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  • Profile picture of the author ejunkie
    Very helpful thread.

    I have been toying with the idea of a membership site, so the tips & insights here are really appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mohammed Hammad2
    If you go into the grocery store and see the $1 razors, you're probably more likely to pay for the $15 razor because you feel like your money is better off there. Even though you could have bought 15 of those razors
    You couldn't say it more right than that :p
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  • Profile picture of the author LukeDavenport
    I'm not sure what a membership site is, but I have some great squeeze pages that pull in a good amount of leads!
    I'll look more into membership sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author fenway2k
    Membership sites have been a very lucrative business model for a number of years. Yes you can make a lot of money, but it takes a lot of work as you must be on top of your chosen niche and be willing to seriously over-deliver on what you advertise.

    I've been selling a membership site how-to series for a number of years now. This series takes you by the hand and teaches you everything you need to know about how to set up, launch, and promote your membership site. This series is taught by one of the biggest names in the game with videos, workbooks, and pdf's so its well worth the investment. Check my sig for details if anyone is interested in learning.
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  • Profile picture of the author alexgold87
    It's awesome thread. During reading I figured out that I have a great value in my mind which I can offer on pay monthly basis. It's just WOW! My mind changed like a snap.

    Just need to get good software to run it. I want to use WordPress as a membership website because it's very easy. OK, need to read thread again to find names of the software

    Thank you once again for idea and amazing tips!
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      It's awesome thread. During reading I figured out that I have a great value in my mind which I can offer on pay monthly basis. It's just WOW! My mind changed like a snap.

      Just need to get good software to run it. I want to use WordPress as a membership website because it's very easy. OK, need to read thread again to find names of the software

      Thank you once again for idea and amazing tips!
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  • Profile picture of the author apexlm
    I am looking to stat a membership site myself in the next couple months. I will keep the forum posted on my successes.
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  • Profile picture of the author ItsNeverNo
    Great thread - I am looking too - i know a subject area very well, and every year on Jan 1 ( and all times throughout the year ) people want a 12 week or similar plan in this. ( yes, it health/fitness related ). I was hoping to drip feed them a 12 week plan, a bit each week, as well as an article added each week relevant to all members to keep them motivated all year long.

    Where to start re software - i have a zencart store and have done a little with wordpress.....do any membership sites allow time based emails based on date of joining and their topic areas of interest?
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  • Profile picture of the author paul nicholls
    i would not say im "killing it" with my membership site quite yet but im certainly on my way

    i only built my membership site about 6 weeks ago and it`s building nicely

    i started off charging $17 per month but i have now changed it to a $1 trial for 3 days but the key is to have plenty of value within your membership site so that you have a high retention

    im also going to be doing some testing with a $1 trial as my one time offer using solo ads so that will be very interesting to see what my conversions are

    membership sites do work great and are great for a residual income but don`t assume it`s all easy work

    you do have to have plenty of skills and experience to offer others so bare that in mind

    a membership site is a long term business model too but in my opinion it`s one of the most powerful business models out there

    paul
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  • Profile picture of the author johnpea
    Where do you get the valuable content from, month after month, to keep your members on board?
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    • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
      Originally Posted by johnpea View Post

      Where do you get the valuable content from, month after month, to keep your members on board?
      You create it yourself or hire others to do it (think Elance.com, Guru.com, etc.).

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      • Profile picture of the author ItsNeverNo
        Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

        You create it yourself or hire others to do it (think Elance.com, Guru.com, etc.).

        RoD
        I hear niche vs gerneal and I hear get people to write the content for you, and I also hear pick an area that you know well. I think i know two areas rather well - running life ( marathons, training, motiviation ) and setting up and running a online tshirt store ( make shirts at home, sell via web store ).

        If you had to choose ( and you can spend my time and money to do it - i will let you ) which would you set up for a membership site? Whats got the most potential - there are millionos of runners out there, but lots and lots of free info and conversely, not so many people wanting a home based shirt biz, but not a lot of good easy info to get into it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Benjam1n
          Originally Posted by ItsNeverNo View Post

          If you had to choose ( and you can spend my time and money to do it - i will let you ) which would you set up for a membership site? Whats got the most potential - there are millionos of runners out there, but lots and lots of free info and conversely, not so many people wanting a home based shirt biz, but not a lot of good easy info to get into it.
          I think the answer to this relates to the amount of information you can provide in each of those subjects. A membership site only works, if members want to continue being a part of your site.

          How much content can you provide on a monthly/weekly basis about starting up a t shirt business? I would imagine after about 3 months (complete guess) you'd start to run out of ideas and lose members.

          With a running site, there's a never ending amount of content you can provide, interviews with succesful runners, diets, training advice etc and there's a load of extra ways to make money through selling affiliate products, fitness gear through amazon etc.

          If it was me, I'd go with running. All the information in the world is free online, people pay for the convenience of having it delivered to them.
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    • Profile picture of the author DustonMcGroarty
      Originally Posted by johnpea View Post

      Where do you get the valuable content from, month after month, to keep your members on board?
      Another option is to just interview some successful people in your niche and charge a monthly fee for the interview(s). There's a number of people who do this successfully.
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      • Profile picture of the author helterskelter
        Can't wait to see further conversation on this thread. I just launched my first membership site, though I use the word "launched" loosely. In reality, I stumbled through the steps of setting it up and danced around my living room when I got things to work, so I'll consider that launching it.

        I'm getting my content fed in before I start promoting, but I'm feeling lukewarm about my topic (frankly, I was a bit lukewarm even before I started setting it up, but was motivated to figure out membership sites quickly so I ran with it). I need some creative juices flowing to pick out a new topic for my next site!

        I'd love to see samples of what some of your favorite membership sites are, particularly outside the MMO niche. Anyone have any membership sites you subscribe to, or that you've always thought are good ideas, even if they're not up your alley?
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      • Profile picture of the author JoeyElmore
        Originally Posted by DustonMcGroarty View Post

        Another option is to just interview some successful people in your niche and charge a monthly fee for the interview(s). There's a number of people who do this successfully.
        A great example of this concept is www.mixergy.com by Andrew Warner. A great site with great content for startups.

        He interviews startup businesses and asks them, actually drills them about their experiences. What they did that worked, what didn't work, etc.

        A great resource. Some interviews are free. If you want the mother load he has a membership you can buy. I haven't signed up for the membership so I can't vouch for it, but the free interviews are definitely worth checking out. Each one is usually transcribed too for those that like to read along.
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  • Profile picture of the author non
    Originally Posted by The Marketeer View Post

    Hey Warriors,

    I recently came to hear that one marketer was making around $12,000 a month with his products but then he decided to start using the membership continuity model and now earns $200,000 per month.

    Anyone who's been into IM will know about this guy. That $200,000 p/m is his trademark.

    I'm considering setting a membership site up just to build a list.

    So who here's raking it in with membership sites?
    i know this is a newbie question but what is 'the membership continuity model'?
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    • Profile picture of the author JRoon
      I've had membership sites for years and yes, they can be some work but here is how I see it. The continuity revenue stream provided by membership sites creates some consistency between launches of products. So, it is a steady stream of money as opposed to big peaks and valleys (product launches).
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    • Profile picture of the author DustonMcGroarty
      Originally Posted by non View Post

      i know this is a newbie question but what is 'the membership continuity model'?
      non - membership and continuity are really the same thing. It just means recurring monthly billing. Now, there is micro-continuity which refers to membership courses or programs that have a definitive start and end date. That's my favorite membership model.
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    damn $200K a month...really? Who are we talking about here?

    Anyway, yeah memberships sites are freakin awesome if you have one that keeps its members and is worth staying in it. I've known a few marketers that are killing it with membership sites.....but they work their ass off at it too. This is no easy set n forget model.

    The wordpress plugin I used was wishlist member....think it cost $100..and works really good. The only drawback was telling clickbank which page is the thank you page....cuz it's kinda tricky....but other than that....WL works sweet.

    I think also that you need to be aware that if you decide the membership route....drip-feed your content. Don't allow members to see the whole enchilada at once. Give content to them in bite-sized chunks...and leave then wanting more. You also have to become a master at marketing and driving a ton of leads to your site. Offer free trials to get in as a free member to start off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicole K
    How does starting a membership site compare with starting a forum I wonder. I think a forum is easier to start and can also rank well in the search engines. It can also have a larger number of members especially if it is free. Something like a Warrior Forum!
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  • Profile picture of the author DylanC
    Chris Farrell and Mile Filsaime seem to be doing extremely well with their membership sites. May be a good business model to implement.
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  • Profile picture of the author Des Lau
    If you have the means to, I think membership sites are the only real way to build an online business.

    It's all about predictability, knowing that your numbers stack up at the end of the month just by looking how many subscribers you have. It's a numbers game.

    I think the ultimate membership site is a software application based site where the user is simply using the features for their purpose. You don't need to drip content, just develop at the beginning and happy days!
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  • Profile picture of the author jdooley13
    I have a membership site set up but I can't seem to get anyone to sign up, even with a free ebook and free trial offer. I have advertised on PPC and social networks all to no avail. I have a solo scheduled for this month and we shall see how that goes.
    anyone have any suggestions on driving traffic to the site?

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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    Gary Ambrose has some good information regarding membership sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hitmanad
    I have a membership site. I'd have to say my main goal is to teach and educate first and foremost. I spend a lot my time generating content. I make a decent amount of money doing it. It's fun work for me.

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author bostonterrierjoe
    I have a membership site using wishlist... but my biggest problem is geting people to join my membership site?

    Maybe I just chose the wrong niche
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  • Profile picture of the author mark healy
    i agree that membership sites are the way to go and am looking to set one up
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  • Profile picture of the author ItsNeverNo
    Thanks Ppc and Benjam1n. I think the shirt biz might be better as an ebook perhaps, as you are right, whilst I am always learning about my shirts, not enough to do quality information for a membership site for ever. Running I do and read about each and every day, so provide better info more regularly.

    Re membership value...I just signed up for the war room. Why? Cost vs potential benefit seemed good, offers something unique.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymakerway
    There are indeed marketers who are very good with membership sites. The one I know is Russell Brunson. He had a team around him. Everyone of them is specialized around some topic regarding IM, and they all have task to make one article per month. These articles are collected and published in IM magazine which is connected to membership site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric55la
    I am not looking to sell just looking to do a partnership.
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Says
    I understand when people say they know the "golden touch" or the exact formula for success with membership sites.. but it's THEIR experience or experiences they've seen others have.

    YOUR experience is going to be different no matter what. You'll have a different audience, likely be promoting something different (niche or specific wise). Your way of writing, recording, speaking, etc. will be different. Your way of reaching your audience will be different (whether that be social, emails, videos, ads, search engines, forums, etc. no matter the case it'll be different).

    Everything YOU do will be different than what someone else does.

    You can listen to what people have to say about their own experiences, but the only way you'll know what will work for you is by what YOU do.

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  • Profile picture of the author CpvTrafficPro
    Not quite at $200,000 per month, but if you find a good recurring income it can definitely be possible. I'm sitting at $35k per month and I never thought it could happen but you just keep working on making 1 thing succeed until one day you realize you already have
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