affiliates for my new wso

12 years ago

Originally Posted by kavitapore

hello warriors

just launching my 1st wso, wondering how can i get the good affiliates to promote it. any suggestion, how much time it will take to get some affiliates.

How much affiliates i should have to be successful?

I know i have to pm or skype them but i have slow internet, can't use skype, pm may not work email also not good vary low ctr.

thanks in advance.

I have 80 affiliates promoting my first WSO because I offered them 100% commission.. Unfortunately, only 10 out of these 80 people are making money..

So to answer your question: "how many affiliates i should have to be successful?"

First, what is your definition of success? Is it by making 50 sales? 100 sales? or by making X amount of profits?

Personally, it's not the "how many affiliates" that is important, you may have lots of affiliates but if none of them does heavy promotion for you, it'll be as good as NO affiliates.. Finding the right affiliate is more important.

For my case, I found 1 affiliate who make 35% of my overall sales.. Frankly speaking I would rather find 3 such affiliates rather than 100 "non-active" affiliates.

Jeremiah

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kavitapore 12 years ago

hello Jeremiah

Thanks for suggestion, I will try to find such affiliates, but want to give 50% commission. can i use war room to find some. coz just registered from war room. but not looking any discussion kind of posts.

my success equation = is getting some good money. with some good list and importantly with happy customers by my service to them.

Please PM me if you are interested.

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WillR

12 years ago

I do not suggest PM'ing or Skyping people out the blue to promote your product. I gets ton of these requests on a daily basis and I delete them all. It's quite arrogant, I think, to message someone you don't know asking them to help you and promote your product. Why should I? Don't say because I am offering 50% commissions. I don't care about any of that stuff. All I care about is giving my list exactly what they need to succeed. I am quite capable of finding those products myself without people hitting me up via PM about their latest launch.

It's your first WSO so don't think you are going to strike gold the first time around. You need to build yourself a reputation so that next time people will know you and want to promote your products. You can still do well with your first WSO but it's not as easy as most people lead you to believe.

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kavitapore 12 years ago

Thanks both owenlee and WillR,

I got it., will meet on offer page then. , also I do not want to spend time in pm and skypying.

You gave me some confidence though.
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owenlee

12 years ago

You can try using JVzoo or the Warriorplus...

one thing most affiliate is that they will look at your sales page..so is good to have a good one...

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Steve Wells

12 years ago

Originally Posted by kavitapore

hello warriors

just launching my 1st wso, wondering how can i get the good affiliates to promote it. any suggestion, how much time it will take to get some affiliates.

How much affiliates i should have to be successful?

I know i have to pm or skype them but i have slow internet, can't use skype, pm may not work email also not good vary low ctr.

thanks in advance.

Well, it starts with having a great product to offer for sure. And many times they will come to you.

Then hopefully you will have non-greedy affiliates who are happy with 50% commissions. Instead of them expecting you to give them 100% commissions. NOT!

Unless I am trying to build a list, I would never do that............ especially when I can still build a list at 50% and make my money at the same time, and benefit rightly so as I should, for the hard work that I have put into my product/s....

It seems many people are looking for free rides, thinking that because they have huge lists, that it entitles them to all your money.

I am sure someone will be offended by that, and the ones who will be are the exact ones, who demand 75% or 100% commission or they will not send to their list.

The product creator in my opinion is the one in control, you have the product. You can sell it and market it on your own. The affiliates cannot make money without products to promote. So, the product creators should be the ones driving the boat, but it seems there is a huge struggle that goes on regarding this, and I am sure it's debatable by many.

But the facts are greed is what drives this type of thinking, which may make you money fast, but in the long run is very, very bad for you, in more ways than people imagine.

Maybe I said to much... oh well....

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kavitapore

12 years ago

hello Steve,
that is absolutely correct, that's way I am not giving 100% even if it is my 1st wso. I have worked hard from concept to site building etc every step. I am product is also good. I am not going to give more than 50% to affiliates. Also I care about my long run reputation.

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Shaun OReilly

12 years ago

Originally Posted by kavitapore

I am not giving 100% even if it is my 1st wso. I have worked hard from concept to site building etc every step. I am product is also good. I am not going to give more than 50% to affiliates.

I can understand how you could think that way, but
it's "stinking thinking."

Consider another perspective...

The affiliate has invested a lot of time, money and
effort into building their own list and their subscribers
are valuable to them.

They want rewarding for that effort in the way of good
commissions.

The higher the commissions you offer, the more traffic
affiliates will send your way.

In fact, there are some affiliate programs that pay MORE
than 100% commissions on the front-end.

Remember that the affiliate is helping you to build a list of
BUYERS who you can profit from for years to come.

I recommend that you start thinking like a real marketer
and business person instead of an amateur.

If you continue with the 50% commission mantra, you'll
end up with LESS affiliate traffic, LOWER sales and a
SMALLER buyer's list. Is that really what you want?

And by the way, make sure you've got a high converting
offer BEFORE you ask affiliates to promote for you.

Dedicated to mutual success,

Shaun

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kavitapore 12 years ago

hi shaun

your perspective is good, also my product is little bit strong. I hope it will put everything on track for me. Just hoping for the best. Also I have invested lot of money on lot's of product since last year. never earned single penny. So after so much learning and struggle and handwork now I also require some money to cover investment and for my living. That's why i m not comfortable with 100% right now.

also I am not kind a guy that will launch a product per month. So it will be major income opportunity for me. Thanks shaun for another perspective though.
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Steve Wells

12 years ago

So, you think 50% commissions is bad commissions?

Thanks "unthankful thinking".

Just because an affiliate has spent time building a list does not entitle them to automatically think that they should get 100% upfront commissions.

This mentality has gone on too long...... It's greed. Simple as that. There are no two ways about it.

Try getting upfront 100% commissions from Amazon, from any major product creator, they would laugh in your face, and probably fire you or not let you become an affiliate if you persisted and argured your point with them.

My wife is an affiliate for a major company for high end products, and makes 15% commissions, which turns out to be lots. And believe me, they would never give 100% commissions.

Only those people who are scared that they cannot build a list otherwise or want to build a list quickly will do that.

It's not the only way to build a list. You can build a list at 50% and still make 50% of your money on product sales.

If more product creators actually did this, then the mentality and the pattern that has been sent for several years would change quickly

I mean no offence to you for sure man, but that kind of thinking is one way thinking.

A GOOD DEAL, is ONLY a GOOD DEAL, when BOTH parties are equally blessed with the deal.

It seems that product creators feel as though they have to give 100% because they have been getting trained that way by following the herd.

If I were an affiliate marketer SOLELY, and that was my income primarily, I am sure I would if I was greedy, want 100% commissions on everything I promote to my list, but in my heart, I would KNOW FOR A FACT, that it was not fair at all the product creator.

I will stop, because we are getting into ethics, which could turn, to beliefs, which could then turn to principles from the bible, which is not to be talked about...

Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly

I can understand how you could think that way, but
it's "stinking thinking."

Consider another perspective...

The affiliate has invested a lot of time, money and
effort into building their own list and their subscribers
are valuable to them.

They want rewarding for that effort in the way of good
commissions.

The higher the commissions you offer, the more traffic
affiliates will send your way.

In fact, there are some affiliate programs that pay MORE
than 100% commissions on the front-end.

Remember that the affiliate is helping you to build a list of
BUYERS who you can profit from for years to come.

I recommend that you start thinking like a real marketer
and business person instead of an amateur.

If you continue with the 50% commission mantra, you'll
end up with LESS affiliate traffic, LOWER sales and a
SMALLER buyer's list. Is that really what you want?

And by the way, make sure you've got a high converting
offer BEFORE you ask affiliates to promote for you.

Dedicated to mutual success,

Shaun

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Alphy3000

12 years ago

Its not a matter of stinking thinking or untankful thinking, both sides (the product side AND the affiliate side) have worked very hard for their product/list, the key is on whatever side you're on, make sure you OFFER more value than you take.

Also, the stinking thinking/untankful thinking is more a discussion of ETHICS, and not quite what will make Kavitapore the most money (wich is what she launches the WSO for)..

So in this case, of launching your first WSO, there is MORE money if you give the affiliates 100% upfront, ANDDDDD, if you have a OTO or Upsell, give 50%.. yes THAT much..

Here's why....

In WarriorPlus, affiliates are looking wich offer to promote, they will be way more attracted to 100% commission on the Front end and 50% of your backend.
Most of your MONEY will not come from your 1st WSO sale, it will come from your LIST, (and believe it or not, your Upsell).

You will make far more money on the list, than you will make on that 1 WSO sale where you get to keep 50% of your front end offer. I know this doesnt make logic sense, but you can ask some reputable warriors here about the nrs and they will say its true.

Also, if you have a bigger list, you can promote other offers, for 100% commission (so you dont have to be the guy who creates a product every month but promotes a product every month for 100% commissions)..

Would you like sales from 1 product (your 1st WSO?).. OR .. would you like sales from multiple products you can promote (other peoples product to your now bigger list).. JUSt because you gave some more value to affiliates than other people are willing too..

Also, try to get your EPC the highest as possible because thats where affiliates on WarriorPlus look the most for.. (they look for highest EPC AND then highest Commissions to them).

If you dont know how to get high EPC, just post and I'll explain that here for you. But I gotta go now.

Good luck with your WSO

P.S. To Steve Wells & Shaun Oreilly, I mean no disrespect to your views, I'm in on both your views, I just think Kavitapore would be getting more money in this stage she's in (beginner stage; no list, 1st wso product, no backend etc).. if she offers MORE value to affiliates than anyone else, to maximize her sales and build a list.

Cheers

- Alphy

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Steve Wells

12 years ago

I agree 100%, if she has a product that can't stand on it's own and needs affiliates to promote it, then by all means build a list.

I have nothing against affiliates nor list building but the attitude I have seen recently from affiliates, is what erks me.

As a matter of fact, I am building a list, just not as fast as others. Which is fine by me, having fun, enjoying it, learning, making business contacts and friends, the whole nine yards.

I made my comments to the OP, so that she understood that she does not have to have the HERD mentality, she sets the pace, she is in control of her own product, and does not have to let others dictate to her what she has to do, to make it...

If building a list is her first and primary goal, then by all means, attract as many guru affiliates as you can........

It wasn't mine, although, I am still building a list, just not the traditional way, meaning giving 100% profits to build it....

There are many ways to build a good list, that do not include you giving away 100% profits.

#1 way, is the have a great product that others need or would want.... simple! Build it and they will come........

Originally Posted by Alphy3000

Its not a matter of stinking thinking or untankful thinking, both sides (the product side AND the affiliate side) have worked very hard for their product/list, the key is on whatever side you're on, make sure you OFFER more value than you take.

Also, the stinking thinking/untankful thinking is more a discussion of ETHICS, and not quite what will make Kavitapore the most money (wich is what she launches the WSO for)..

So in this case, of launching your first WSO, there is MORE money if you give the affiliates 100% upfront, ANDDDDD, if you have a OTO or Upsell, give 50%.. yes THAT much..

Here's why....

In WarriorPlus, affiliates are looking wich offer to promote, they will be way more attracted to 100% commission on the Front end and 50% of your backend.
Most of your MONEY will not come from your 1st WSO sale, it will come from your LIST, (and believe it or not, your Upsell).

You will make far more money on the list, than you will make on that 1 WSO sale where you get to keep 50% of your front end offer. I know this doesnt make logic sense, but you can ask some reputable warriors here about the nrs and they will say its true.

Also, if you have a bigger list, you can promote other offers, for 100% commission (so you dont have to be the guy who creates a product every month but promotes a product every month for 100% commissions)..

Would you like sales from 1 product (your 1st WSO?).. OR .. would you like sales from multiple products you can promote (other peoples product to your now bigger list).. JUSt because you gave some more value to affiliates than other people are willing too..

Also, try to get your EPC the highest as possible because thats where affiliates on WarriorPlus look the most for.. (they look for highest EPC AND then highest Commissions to them).

If you dont know how to get high EPC, just post and I'll explain that here for you. But I gotta go now.

Good luck with your WSO

P.S. To Steve Wells & Shaun Oreilly, I mean no disrespect to your views, I'm in on both your views, I just think Kavitapore would be getting more money in this stage she's in (beginner stage; no list, 1st wso product, no backend etc).. if she offers MORE value to affiliates than anyone else, to maximize her sales and build a list.

Cheers

- Alphy

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Alphy3000

12 years ago

I like your ethics, man, that she doesnt have to have the herd mentality and thats she's in control of her own product and can take it at her own pace, I completely agree with that. And also, if she has a really really great product, people will hear about it and it will be referred. It will go viral here if its really good.

Luckily we have given her a good view of her choices regarding her moneymaking goal, she doesnt have to follow herd mentality, she can do her own thing at her own pace, and IFF she wants to speed things up, she can do all the affiliate attraction stuff. Either way, her choices are expanded.

Thats why i love this forum so much, where in the world can you get so many PERSONAL responses to your questions.

- Alphy

Originally Posted by Steve Wells

I agree 100%, if she has a product that can't stand on it's own and needs affiliates to promote it, then by all means build a list.

I have nothing against affiliates nor list building but the attitude I have seen recently from affiliates, is what erks me.

As a matter of fact, I am building a list, just not as fast as others. Which is fine by me, having fun, enjoying it, learning, making business contacts and friends, the whole nine yards.

I made my comments to the OP, so that she understood that she does not have to have the HERD mentality, she sets the pace, she is in control of her own product, and does not have to let others dictate to her what she has to do, to make it...

If building a list is her first and primary goal, then by all means, attract as many guru affiliates as you can........

It wasn't mine, although, I am still building a list, just not the traditional way, meaning giving 100% profits to build it....

There are many ways to build a good list, that do not include you giving away 100% profits.

#1 way, is the have a great product that others need or would want.... simple! Build it and they will come........

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