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My site does original golf news content - I am wondering how to best get our articles indexed and out there. Are the article directories places to submit original content, or are they just spun article backlink factories?

Any advice would be much appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by ddoggphx73 View Post

    My site does original golf news content - I am wondering how to best get our articles indexed and out there. Are the article directories places to submit original content, or are they just spun article backlink factories?

    Any advice would be much appreciated.
    Article directories are one way to get traffic, but a lot of them got "Google slapped" (lost a lot of their traffic) due to duplicate and poor-quality content when Google did it's updates. Focus on putting on quality content based upon what people are searching for in your niche.

    Good luck,
    Joey
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  • Profile picture of the author theebookcavern
    Article directories definitely don't hold the power that they used to but they are still worth it in my opinion. You get direct traffic from the articles and you get some link juice from the links within the articles. Plus, there's the chance that other website owners will pick your article up and publish it on their site complete with the resource box which means extra links and direct clicks for you.

    If you use them the way Miguelito203's describes (which is the way they are meant to be used) then they're a great way to get your name out there.

    Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author Val Wilson
    Make sure you post all your original content on your own site first before submitting it to article directories. I use Blog and Ping Tool - Use Pingler.com to Drive Traffic your Blogs and Websites and Auto Backlink Feed Generator to help get the content indexed in Google.

    Article submission is just one of the ways to build links (and drive some traffic). You could also do blog commenting, forum posting or guest blogging (all with a link back to your site). Just make sure you get a good variety of link sources to keep it looking natural as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author HCRoyo
    Use Article Marketing Robot to get your articles submitted, get your live links (articles that get approved) and use RSS Submitter + LinkLicious to get them indexed.
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    • Profile picture of the author loads16017
      Originally Posted by HCRoyo View Post

      Use Article Marketing Robot to get your articles submitted, get your live links (articles that get approved) and use RSS Submitter + LinkLicious to get them indexed.
      one of the easy options i do regularly. this will be get you some great results withing few days.
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      • Profile picture of the author seosuperman
        Yes article submission is the great option to build backlink to our site .
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  • Profile picture of the author ddoggphx73
    Thanks for the feedback. So I guess my paranoia is from wondering if I submit my original content links to the article directories, that I'll get some sort of google spanking for doing so...is that an incorrect assumption?

    It sounds like I should be doing this, especially if I have original content. So if so, should I be sending it out like gangbusters, or should I focus on a few really good article sites or maybe aggregation (and if so, who) and not do the whole quantity over quality thing?

    We are pinging the updates via the free ping sites like ping-o-matic, pingler and feedshark, etc...and posting on Digg, but am I leaving stuff on the table?

    I'll look at Article marketing robot for sure...and I guess LinkLicioius too...
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    • Profile picture of the author theebookcavern
      Originally Posted by ddoggphx73 View Post

      Thanks for the feedback. So I guess my paranoia is from wondering if I submit my original content links to the article directories, that I'll get some sort of google spanking for doing so...is that an incorrect assumption?
      You won't get a Google penalty for submitting to the good article directories. Although Google did give them a slap as Miguelito203 says, they didn't de-index them. Ezine Articles and Go Articles still show up in Google search results and you'll get some link juice by having links on these sites. It just won't be as strong as you used to have.

      Originally Posted by ddoggphx73 View Post

      So if so, should I be sending it out like gangbusters, or should I focus on a few really good article sites or maybe aggregation (and if so, who) and not do the whole quantity over quality thing?
      I'd personally recommend some kind of distribution tool that distributes to the large directories and also has their own list of smaller directories to submit too. I personally use SubmitYourArticle.com and DistributeYourArticles.com. I really like Submit Your Article. It's a little pricey but it has a great distribution list and some excellent features. Distribute Your Article is OK. I probably wouldn't use them if I had to pay a monthly fee but I have a lifetime membership with them so it doesn't cost me any extra to send my article out to their list too.

      If you're going to be distributing the articles manually yourself then I'd probably just focus on a small number of really good article sites. Whilst the smaller sites do still give you some results, the bigger ones are where you get most of your rewards and if you're submitting manually it's not worth the time of submitting to the smaller directories.

      Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author sunilrana
    Yes Article submission is the main tool of SEO for getting good result in your site traffic ,your site ranking , backlink and etc.In the past Article submisison was the best in Off Page SEO but in the begning time blog commenting is best for build our backlink.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by sunilrana View Post

      Yes Article submission is the main tool of SEO for getting good result in your site traffic ,your site ranking , backlink and etc.In the past Article submisison was the best in Off Page SEO but in the begning time blog commenting is best for build our backlink.
      Bizarre advice from someone who has an SEO forum in their signature.

      It is your forum, isn't it?
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  • Profile picture of the author gentryliving
    Article directories is the best option. Very effective!
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  • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
    Originally Posted by ddoggphx73 View Post

    My site does original golf news content - I am wondering how to best get our articles indexed and out there. Are the article directories places to submit original content, or are they just spun article backlink factories?

    Any advice would be much appreciated.
    Is your content time-sensitive? (couldn't help seeing the word "news" in there!) If it is, the article directories won't be a whole lot of help to you. They're more focused on "evergreen" content - the kind that someone can come along a week from now, a month from now, or a year from now and still get value from it.

    If you are dealing with time-sensitive content, why not search for some blogs/newsletters in your niche that would syndicate your content? That way, you're getting the information out in front of targeted eyeballs, just a whole lot faster than if you were to rely on the article directories for passive syndication opportunities.

    If your content isn't time-sensitive, the bigger article directories can definitely help you get your stuff syndicated. That's the goal with these directories - not to be a backlink factory.
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    • Profile picture of the author ddoggphx73
      Originally Posted by NicoleBeckett View Post

      Is your content time-sensitive? (couldn't help seeing the word "news" in there!) If it is, the article directories won't be a whole lot of help to you. They're more focused on "evergreen" content - the kind that someone can come along a week from now, a month from now, or a year from now and still get value from it.

      If you are dealing with time-sensitive content, why not search for some blogs/newsletters in your niche that would syndicate your content? That way, you're getting the information out in front of targeted eyeballs, just a whole lot faster than if you were to rely on the article directories for passive syndication opportunities.

      If your content isn't time-sensitive, the bigger article directories can definitely help you get your stuff syndicated. That's the goal with these directories - not to be a backlink factory.
      It usually is very timely - our most recent story is about the Masters. It isn't breaking news, but it definitely is recent or time-bound.
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      • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
        Originally Posted by ddoggphx73 View Post

        It usually is very timely - our most recent story is about the Masters. It isn't breaking news, but it definitely is recent or time-bound.
        In that case, you're going to have to think beyond the article directories. Or, if you want to still be able to take advantage of them, publish some evergreen articles that you can get syndicated for a little more exposure. Yes, it means doing a little more writing, but the results can (literally) last for years and years.

        Have you considered building an email list and sending out new articles as they're published? It wouldn't build you any links, but there are probably a ton of people out there who would want the latest golf news delivered right to their inbox. I would imagine that would make things easier to monetize on your end, too. Just my $0.02
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  • Profile picture of the author miajohnson
    Don't paste copied content on lot of article sites, rather use original and quality content. This will definitely work out.
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  • Profile picture of the author cheyser
    Also spin your articles so it will be unique and it will also be published immediately.
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      Originally Posted by cheyser View Post

      Also spin your articles so it will be unique and it will also be published immediately.
      WRONG!!

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5049064

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5016747
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by sunilrana View Post

      Yes Article submission is the main tool of SEO for getting good result in your site traffic ,your site ranking , backlink and etc.In the past Article submission was the best in Off Page SEO but in the begning time blog commenting is best for build our backlink.
      This is completely wrong.

      Article marketing is a traffic-generating method in its own right, not a form of SEO.

      This post will help you, if you're willing to read it: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

      Originally Posted by sandeep552 View Post

      after 10-12 submission make maximum possible changes in your content, otherwise your content going duplicate with every submission.
      This is also completely wrong.

      You've confused "duplicate content" with "syndicated content". (If what you were saying made any sense at all, that would arise after one indexed submission anyway, not after "10-12" :rolleyes: ).

      It's explained here: Article Marketers - Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All | Internet Marketing and Publishing

      Where do people get this stuff from? Do they just make it all up as they go along? Why do they apparently feel so obliged to mislead others with it?

      Originally Posted by cheyser View Post

      Also spin your articles so it will be unique and it will also be published immediately.
      This is also completely wrong.

      Neither the "uniqueness" (:rolleyes nor the (alleged) immediacy (:p) will be beneficial in any way.

      This post explains the benefits of spinning. This post, and its links, explain how article directories really work and why they exist. The first half (or so) of this thread contains a good discussion of what you can gain from spinning articles. The advice on this subject given by so many people throughout most of this thread has been really helpful to many people here.

      This little article is also a very useful and accurate explanation of the subject.
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      • Profile picture of the author lastreporter
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        This is completely wrong.

        Article marketing is a traffic-generating method in its own right, not a form of SEO.

        Alexa,

        I have a question for you.

        I have several e-commerce sites where I sell physical products, such as niche accessories.

        Do you think article marketing would be an effective way to boost traffic?

        I know it works well for digital products, but I'm uncertain about physical products.

        Thanks for you help.
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  • Profile picture of the author tumbi
    Hi,

    The best way to get your article indexed is using social media and bookmarkers, use ping.fm or some other websites, shorten your code using bitly or tiny url and then post using ping.fm..

    This process has worked for me the fastest, pages and posts gets indexed instantly and then you go for article marketing when you want to rank for the keywords used in the articles,

    the other method which is fairly new is , i am pretty sure you would be using some pictures in your articles or posts, just get an account on pinterest and pin your picture there with a link back to your article page.

    It ranks very fast too.

    I hope it helps

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author ddoggphx73
      Originally Posted by tumbi View Post

      Hi,

      The best way to get your article indexed is using social media and bookmarkers, use ping.fm or some other websites, shorten your code using bitly or tiny url and then post using ping.fm..

      This process has worked for me the fastest, pages and posts gets indexed instantly and then you go for article marketing when you want to rank for the keywords used in the articles,

      the other method which is fairly new is , i am pretty sure you would be using some pictures in your articles or posts, just get an account on pinterest and pin your picture there with a link back to your article page.

      It ranks very fast too.

      I hope it helps

      Cheers

      Very nice tip on using Pinterest for that!
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  • Profile picture of the author bnicoletti82
    reddit.com/r/golf has about 5000 active members - submit there regularly and become an active user.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by bnicoletti82 View Post

      reddit.com/r/golf has about 5000 active members - submit there regularly and become an active user.
      I'm totally going to throw this thread off the rails for a second:



      Anyways, Reddit would actually be an excellent place to put those types of articles. I don't go to the golf subreddit; but do visit the American Football one daily. The type of content you are talking about is what those places are all about.

      A word of warning though: throw up a link to anything spammy or a flat out sales pitch, and that community will come down on you hard.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Yeah i would use article directories. You should consider writing 1 article for ezinearticles, and then write another brand new article to be uploaded on your website. Shoot for 400-500 words per article. Should take you no longer than 30 minutes per day.
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  • Profile picture of the author gilelai
    Article directory is a good option. I feel it very effective and can drive some traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author ddoggphx73
    Good info, all. I will definitely check out reddit...and I do not plan to spin the content. I'm really looking for syndication, more eyeballs and exposure for our content. I submitted an article for the directories that is kind of an overview of the article on the site, but doesn't get into the details, with links to read a deeper version on our site.

    We'll see how that works out.

    Thanks for the discussion! Please keep throwing stuff at me if you don't mind. I'm in sponge mode right now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by ddoggphx73 View Post

      Good info, all. I will definitely check out reddit...and I do not plan to spin the content. I'm really looking for syndication, more eyeballs and exposure for our content. I submitted an article for the directories that is kind of an overview of the article on the site, but doesn't get into the details, with links to read a deeper version on our site.

      We'll see how that works out.

      Thanks for the discussion! Please keep throwing stuff at me if you don't mind. I'm in sponge mode right now.
      Just a heads up, don't expect syndication from Reddit. You will get readers there; but not many publishers.
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  • Profile picture of the author simranjeet singh
    Article directories is good to publish your articles. The main thing about your articles is good content, right information and choose appropriate words
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOExpert999
    Yes if you have a good keyword research tool you can find the hot topic keywords and/or questions for your niche. Then use them in the title and meta-tags, description, keywords of your articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author ddoggphx73
    Alexa (or anyone else, for that matter) - in the syndication of my article that I am posting on my own site already (first published), am I simply just taking that exact same article and submitting it to the article directory? Or am I supposed to rewrite it for the directory and only have the original content on my pages.

    And if I'm submitting the same article as the original, would I then link the resource box back to my general news landing page, and not the specific article on my site (since it's already been read on the syndicator's site?)

    I feel like a light is at the end of the tunnel here, but I'm not sure if it's a train or me getting the concept down.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by ddoggphx73 View Post

      Alexa (or anyone else, for that matter) - in the syndication of my article that I am posting on my own site already (first published), am I simply just taking that exact same article and submitting it to the article directory? Or am I supposed to rewrite it for the directory and only have the original content on my pages.

      And if I'm submitting the same article as the original, would I then link the resource box back to my general news landing page, and not the specific article on my site (since it's already been read on the syndicator's site?)

      I feel like a light is at the end of the tunnel here, but I'm not sure if it's a train or me getting the concept down.
      It's you getting the concept down, so do a little happy dance . There is no problem with putting the same article into the directory, it is what I do (and I'm pretty sure what others do as well). I've been working on my primary niche for two months now, and had zero problems.

      As far as where you link to in your resource box, I would personally recommend your website's landing page instead of the same article. Do your readers really want to click a link that leads them straight to the same piece of content?
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      • Profile picture of the author NicoleBeckett
        Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

        As far as where you link to in your resource box, I would personally recommend your website's landing page instead of the same article. Do your readers really want to click a link that leads them straight to the same piece of content?
        Exactly! You want them visiting your site to see what else you have to offer. If they immediately see the same article they just read, they have no reason to stick around.
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        • Profile picture of the author ddoggphx73
          Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

          As far as where you link to in your resource box, I would personally recommend your website's landing page instead of the same article. Do your readers really want to click a link that leads them straight to the same piece of content?
          Originally Posted by NicoleBeckett View Post

          Exactly! You want them visiting your site to see what else you have to offer. If they immediately see the same article they just read, they have no reason to stick around.

          I figured as much - that was my assumption. But I wanted to totally verify in case there was some wonky little google thing that I didn't know about.

          99% of the time this stuff is basically common sense, but then that 1% pops up to bite you.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenrichatkins
    Article submission is one way to get traffic with your website. But it will always depend with your SEO technique.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by seosuperman View Post

      Yes article submission is the great option to build backlink to our site .
      That isn't the purpose of article submission at all. Article marketing isn't "part of SEO": it's a traffic generation method in its own right. This post explains: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872

      Originally Posted by kenrichatkins View Post

      Article submission is one way to get traffic with your website. But it will always depend with your SEO technique.
      Wrong. It won't "always" depend on that. Many article marketers don't depend on search engine traffic at all. One of the attractions and uses of article marketing is that it's a way of attracting floods of highly targeted traffic without relying on drawing traffic from search engines: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        That isn't the purpose of article submission at all. Article marketing isn't "part of SEO": it's a traffic generation method in its own right. This post explains: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872
        Whoa young lady! Can't you see that the self proclaimed SEO Superman has a web development company in his signature.

        He must be right, surely? :rolleyes:
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    • Article submission plays a key role in SEO. This technique can help you gain maximum exposure for your website and get organic traffic. Most article directories are free to use and receive thousands of visitors every day. Each visitor is a potential client.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Great Gordino
        The best advice I've seen on this forum about article marketing that had a fundamental impact on the way I went about it, was this from Alexa Smith, which I sum up as:

        Publish on your own site first.

        If you have a question about article marketing, and you haven't already followed that 6 word advice, you have your next step right there!
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Jeez, what happened to the thread this morning? Spammers paradise


        Originally Posted by mrsvirtualassistant View Post

        Article submission plays a key role in SEO. This technique can help you gain maximum exposure for your website and get organic traffic. Most article directories are free to use and receive thousands of visitors every day. Each visitor is a potential client that you will probably lose, because there are an insane amount of leaks on any page of EZA's website.
        Finished that for you.
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  • Article submission is very necesary in seo factor.. it contains content so it is useful in google crawling. it has links which approaches to our site and it generate backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author odohjc
    Hi,
    Article Directories are places where you submit original content. Original content to my understanding refers to any article which is produced by you without copying from the work of another or even from your previous work.

    You can produce a different version of your work which becomes an original article since it was not copied from anywhere verbatim.
    Duplicate content refers to copied content. If you copy from your previous article or from any other person, that copied work is duplicate content.
    From the above explanation, article directories are places where you submit original content. They are not places where you submit spun articles just to get back links or to borrow your term spun articles back link factories.
    odohjc
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  • Profile picture of the author Londonista
    Spinning is good IF you hand spin. I use the spinner on thelinkjuicer to get the final articles, & the last one I did had a 90% unique score.
    Basically if you totally rewrite each paragraph 3 or 4 times then put in (by hand) alternative versions for as many of the words that you can then you are still adding value, & saying the same thing - but in different ways adding that extra originality.
    It takes bloody ages, but you can get loads of unique articles instead of one that has limited value.
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  • Profile picture of the author chetanlegend
    The content quality and uniqueness is always matter for article distribution and getting backlinks,
    For getting indexed the submitted articles is to create link wheels of the approved article urls.
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  • Profile picture of the author samspade
    Originally Posted by ddoggphx73 View Post

    My site does original golf news content - I am wondering how to best get our articles indexed and out there. Are the article directories places to submit original content, or are they just spun article backlink factories?

    Any advice would be much appreciated.
    ddoggphx73
    The best place to go to submit articles is articlebase or articlesnatch. They review and accept your article if it meets their review standards and you get great search engine rank for the articles. You can take it one step further by pinging the links to your articles, this would give you extra traction.
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  • Profile picture of the author mariyajames
    Article submission is good to get backlinks but its not as useful and effective as it was before Panda update. After Google update so many article sites were penalized due to low quality content.

    So it is good to publish content on article sites, but you should not rely on articles to get backlinks and traffic.

    At present time the need is to post unique content on quality article sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Barboza
    Since the website in discussion is a news site I don't think that article directories are the right way to promote it. Look for LinkedIn groups in your market and interact and participate there.

    Can you get a golf site into Google News? THat would give you tons of traffic. I guess.
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  • Profile picture of the author Irmscher
    Article directories suck these days

    Use WEB 2.0 properties with proper keyword research. When I say proper keyword research I don't mean Adwords keyword tool, use Google instant suggestion tool - it's what Google is hungry for thus indexing your stuff very quickly.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnTimmins
    I suggest that you post UNIQUE ARTICLES anywhere on the internet even in the Web 2.0 sites and Article Directories. This will build your credibility and a safer way to build backlinks because you know that your content is unique.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by JohnTimmins View Post

      I suggest that you post UNIQUE ARTICLES anywhere on the internet even in the Web 2.0 sites and Article Directories.
      All the professional, successful article marketers I know strongly recommend not submitting any unique content to an article directory. To do so is in fact a real mistake, for all the reasons explained at such length and in such detail in this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

      Originally Posted by JohnTimmins View Post

      a safer way to build backlinks because you know that your content is unique.
      This just isn't so. The value of a backlink to your site has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the content to which its attached has previously been published.

      John, absolutely no impoliteness intended, but you're rather confused, at the moment, about a very widely misunderstood subject. These three threads will help you to appreciate how erroneous your comments above are ...
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html
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