How does G actually know that a site is a "blog" ?

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Stupid question - i myself see this differentiation as nonsense.

But i just read a hyped post in the other board about "how google pushes blogs now into organic results for the web".

But..HOW on earth does google differentiate what is a BLOG and what is a "normal" site?

If i remove my footers "powered by wordpress"....does it still know "i am a blog" ???

I can do a "blogsearch" on G's "blog search" so there must be a criteria when a site is "a blog" and when not?

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  • Profile picture of the author radhika
    I don't think google prefers blogs than regular sites ...

    One reason for this hyped theory could be blogs are very easy to get backlinks from social bookmarking sites. So it might be those backlinks that are puhing blogs up. But when you do search your can see regular web site pages too.

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  • Profile picture of the author Art Turner
    All html has a footprint. Removing the "powered by xxx" doesn't get rid of the coding that gives away what created it. Even you, a human, can tell when a site is wordpress, joomla or any other site creation software just by looking at the source.

    And the source is all Google ever sees.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Rodrigo
    Georg,

    Google knows all!

    In this case, even if you remove the link at the bottom, which is not adviced as part of the license from Wordpress, G will still know from the HTML code generated. That part is impossible to hide and still use WP.

    Apart from that, a blog is usually updated more frequently, by the writer of the site and originally didn't present a lot of commercial info. It was a means to publish social commentary on a regular basis.

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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I think the premise that Blogs get better treatment is false.

    I've had just as good results with static pages as with blogs - you just need to give the search engines the same stuff they like.

    Having sitemaps, decent structure, good use of meta tags, rss feed etc. are things that were built in to most content management systems purely because they worked well for static sites already.
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    • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      I think the premise that Blogs get better treatment is false.

      I've had just as good results with static pages as with blogs - you just need to give the search engines the same stuff they like.

      Having sitemaps, decent structure, good use of meta tags, rss feed etc. are things that were built in to most content management systems purely because they worked well for static sites already.
      Exactly. If Google "favored" blogs, then how would static websites from major companies compete for the number one spot for their keyword (which is where you almost always find a major company's website)? If Google really "favored" blogs, I could unseat sites like Microsoft and Mozilla with a blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author Evita
    I've noticed that some of my static websites that have an RSS feed are found on Google blogsearch...

    I too, believe that Google does not favor blogs. It's just that blogs come with a lot of built in, or easy to use tools, for easy SEO.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
    I'm not so sure that Google doesn't treat blogs differently. You'll often see a blog show up for a search phrase ahead of well optimized static sites.

    Personally, I think that Google wants to have a diverse listing of relevant results for a given search phrase. They'll show all types of sites - blogs, static, video, PDF, Squidoo, Article sites, Forums, etc. in the same search results.

    They also have a completely separate blog search which shows that they place some type of importance on them.
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  • Profile picture of the author madison_avenue
    When I search google for very competitive keyword terms it is usually the static sites which come higher in the search engines. I don't see the evidence of blogs beating static sites when they go head to head.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
      Originally Posted by madison_avenue View Post

      When I search google for very competitive keyword terms it is usually the static sites which come higher in the search engines. I don't see the evidence of blogs beating static sites when they go head to head.
      In some cases they do. For example, do a search for dieting tips and you'll see a PR3 blog rank ahead of a PR5 Yahoo Health page.
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      • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
        Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

        In some cases they do. For example, do a search for dieting tips and you'll see a PR3 blog rank ahead of a PR5 Yahoo Health page.
        That's a big leap to make to assume it's because it's a blog - there are a lot of reasons why that would be the case that are nothing to do with whether it's a blog or not.

        My testing in this area has not highlighted any blog-specific things that make a difference.

        If you have a 'normal' site which has unique fresh content and all the elements of a good seo - there's nothing to separate them as far as what the search engines care about.

        Yes, it's popular for people to go around saying that blogs work better - but usually they're selling something that requires this assumption or they're just trying to sound clever.

        I haven't seen a single piece of actual evidence that it makes a difference and my own testing hasn't found any, so unless someone has some different test results that highlight a specific element - the rest is just noise to me.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ivancho
    They recognise this from your source code. They really have been investing quite alot for this I am sure... It's not easy as you can thing to make a such a bot that can recognize blog with a normal sites...
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
    Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

    If i remove my footers "powered by wordpress"....does it still know "i am a blog" ???
    You (or your theme) must have added that, because my WP blogs don't have it, and I didn't remove it.

    I can't see anything in the license that says you have to link to or mention that WP is what you are using.
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  • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
    http://www.google.com/help/about_blogsearch.htm

    Which blogs are included in Blog Search?

    The goal of Blog Search is to include every blog that publishes a site feed (either RSS or Atom). It is not restricted to Blogger blogs, or blogs from any other service.

    How do I get my blog listed?

    If your blog publishes a site feed in any format and automatically pings an updating service (such as Google Blog Search Pinging Service), we should be able to find and list it. Also, we will soon be providing a form that you can use to manually add your blog to our index, in case we haven't picked it up automatically. Stay tuned for more information on this.
    So if it pings like a blog, it's a blog, probably unless it has a footprint that says otherwise to Google's algorithms.

    There is some Google favoritism to having a 'blog' and that's showing up on page 1 of some searches in a 'blogs' box, much like their news, products or local box.
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  • Profile picture of the author raydp
    I think it's nothing more than the tendency for blogs to have constantly updated content that's pinged. It would be interesting to test this theory by starting two sites - one a blog and the other a static site with fresh content added daily.

    One advantage for the blog though is the pinging that takes place with every post. You'd need to replicate that for the static site.

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  • Profile picture of the author Louis Raven
    I asked this months ago. What make a blog, a blog in Googles eyes.

    When you find the answer, that's when you release the "loophole" eBook for those with static sites who'll be able to simply read the eBook and add the key ingredient

    Louis
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