Buying YouTube Views' Problem

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Wonder if we buy YouTube views in Fiverr, What's the disadvantage?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tenzho
    My guess is, the views are from a view exchange software. They view people's video to get credit, and the credit can be used to get views for your video.

    Vagex is one of those view exchange website.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Vendor may not deliver on promise?

    More expensive than other "buy video views" options?

    Once the paid views are done, the video still doesn't attract a crowd?

    Your video dies a slow death because no one uses it, making you feel like you wasted the money to buy traffic?

    YouTube may be tracking individual users internally, and they might know that you received paid traffic, then decide to bury your video in the YouTube Search graveyard?

    I am sure others can come up with some more disadvantages... :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Your video dies a slow death because no one uses it, making you feel like you wasted the money to buy traffic?

      I am sure others can come up with some more disadvantages... :p
      I vote for that one, though the others are good too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Allard
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Your video dies a slow death because no one uses it, making you feel like you wasted the money to buy traffic?
      I also vote for that one too. If you're buying views you have to know why you're buying them- do you think those views will convert and go back to your website? Because they won't.

      The two reasons I increase views on many of my videos is 1) May have an affect in the YouTube & Google search results- although I always optimize, backlink, and embed as well so it's hard to tell what views alone do. And 2) increase social proof- when I watch videos I always look to see how many views it has. If a video is teaching me something and only has 100 views it's harder to find it credible. More views=more trust & more real clicks when displayed in search results.

      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      YouTube may be tracking individual users internally, and they might know that you received paid traffic, then decide to bury your video in the YouTube Search graveyard?
      This is something that I worry about and I'm sure it will happen but I haven't seen any negative affect in my search results yet. I've been getting good results in Google so far, haven't been tracking my results within YouTube itself.

      I've asked the people from Vagex about this and they said they put random videos into the rotation. Will be interesting to see how much longer these kinds of software/networks last since YouTube & Google are always fighting them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
        Yes the views may "not be real" but you are looking at things the wrong way.

        If your trying to establish a video/channel it's hard. So why not speed up the process by sending, say 100,000 views to it and getting it featured on the frontpage? The "fake" views then get converted into real ones, as people see the video on the homepage and generally click it.

        A few weeks back, a client of mine ordered 200,000 overnight views. I delivered them in 48 hours. 72 hours later the video had gone completely viral, and those 200,000 views turned into just over a million. The extra traffic was enough to crash there servers, and they actually saw a ROI of 600%
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan Allard
          Originally Posted by MilkerFocus View Post

          There are sites out there that deliver cheaper traffic than Fiverr? Where?
          YTNuke is the most common, actually if you buy YouTube views most likely they come from YTNuke and someone is just private labeling their service.

          Even better how about free YouTube views, likes, comments, and subscribers? You can get them from Vagex <-that's my referal link and I'll get some free views if you sign up. I've never paid for views there, so many ways to earn free views.

          They don't deliver as fast as YTNuke, it's more of a slow and steady 1,000 views/week. It's worked for me but I haven't gone after any huge keywords with videos.

          Originally Posted by MilkerFocus View Post

          I brought YouTube Likes before in Fiverr. It offered me 1200 likes. And I checked, it wasture. But after few day, my likes reduced to be 657likes. ?!
          That's way too many likes! I recommend taking things slower and making it look more natural. I mean it's cool that we can manipulate the system for now (won't last forever) but we should do it in a responsible way that gently helps our videos move forward until the views pick up naturally. 1200 likes is just abusing the system I'm surprised you didn't get banned.

          Originally Posted by jgeeked View Post

          A few weeks back, a client of mine ordered 200,000 overnight views. I delivered them in 48 hours. 72 hours later the video had gone completely viral, and those 200,000 views turned into just over a million. The extra traffic was enough to crash there servers, and they actually saw a ROI of 600%
          I don't know about crash their servers lol, but that's a great success story. Over at the Vagex message boards I hear stories like that all the time. There's so much noise on YouTube and it's so hard to get noticed without using some video marketing strategies. Believe it or not some of the big time YouTube partners started out by purchasing fake views.

          You left out a really important part though (that others may be missing) and that is the video has to be a good quality video. You can't make a crappy spam video go viral. Although it might seem obvious I think it needs to be said...
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          • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe

            I don't know about crash their servers lol, but that's a great success story. Over at the Vagex message boards I hear stories like that all the time. There's so much noise on YouTube and it's so hard to get noticed without using some video marketing strategies. Believe it or not some of the big time YouTube partners started out by purchasing fake views.

            You left out a really important part though (that others may be missing) and that is the video has to be a good quality video. You can't make a crappy spam video go viral. Although it might seem obvious I think it needs to be said...

            Lol! I meant I crashed my clients servers due to the sudden spike in traffic, not YouTube! Boy, if that was the case I think I'd be in a lot of trouble haha
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          • Profile picture of the author MilkerFocus
            Hey, Thanks a lot. That's new information for me.

            Originally Posted by Dan Allard View Post

            YTNuke is the most common, actually if you buy YouTube views most likely they come from YTNuke and someone is just private labeling their service.

            Even better how about free YouTube views, likes, comments, and subscribers? You can get them from Vagex <-that's my referal link and I'll get some free views if you sign up. I've never paid for views there, so many ways to earn free views.

            They don't deliver as fast as YTNuke, it's more of a slow and steady 1,000 views/week. It's worked for me but I haven't gone after any huge keywords with videos.



            That's way too many likes! I recommend taking things slower and making it look more natural. I mean it's cool that we can manipulate the system for now (won't last forever) but we should do it in a responsible way that gently helps our videos move forward until the views pick up naturally. 1200 likes is just abusing the system I'm surprised you didn't get banned.



            I don't know about crash their servers lol, but that's a great success story. Over at the Vagex message boards I hear stories like that all the time. There's so much noise on YouTube and it's so hard to get noticed without using some video marketing strategies. Believe it or not some of the big time YouTube partners started out by purchasing fake views.

            You left out a really important part though (that others may be missing) and that is the video has to be a good quality video. You can't make a crappy spam video go viral. Although it might seem obvious I think it needs to be said...
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          • Profile picture of the author Tom E
            Originally Posted by Dan Allard View Post

            YTNuke is the most common, actually if you buy YouTube views most likely they come from YTNuke and someone is just private labeling their service.
            Not sure where you're getting your information, but those are not facts. Not saying that YTNuke isn't a good place to get views, but there are certainly a ton more view-boosting companies out there that supply their own views/use their own technology.

            Originally Posted by Dan Allard View Post

            That's way too many likes! I recommend taking things slower and making it look more natural. I mean it's cool that we can manipulate the system for now (won't last forever) but we should do it in a responsible way that gently helps our videos move forward until the views pick up naturally. 1200 likes is just abusing the system I'm surprised you didn't get banned.
            Where are you getting this information? I've worked behind the scenes in the View-Adding game for over 2 years, which means that I've learned the real facts about how youtube works by sheer experience, and not what I've read somewhere.

            And I can tell you that (just like I've said earlier in this thread), youtube is only after the big fish - they're not going to ban you for getting 1200 likes in an hour, unless you're doing it on a grand scale, along with a bot to add crazy amounts of views.

            Tens of thousands of videos get uploaded to youtube every day, and they simply do not have the capacity to go after the small fish.

            Although you do have a point about making it look natural. Anyone who has a video with like 1000 views and then adds 1200 likes to it is simply a fool.

            As far as Vagex goes, they used to be great, but after youtube stopped giving merit (rank power) to videos that aren't watched till the end, Vagex has suffered greatly, and is in my opinion, not very viable any more.
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            • Profile picture of the author tpw
              Originally Posted by gr8tocre8 View Post

              And I can tell you that (just like I've said earlier in this thread), youtube is only after the big fish - they're not going to ban you for getting 1200 likes in an hour, unless you're doing it on a grand scale, along with a bot to add crazy amounts of views.

              You don't even have to send fake views and fake likes to YouTube to get banned. You only need to upload a set of videos that someone doesn't like.

              I have had two accounts at YouTube banned, simply because they did not like the videos I loaded on the their site. Both accounts had videos that were obviously marketing videos.

              I know others who have met similar fates at YT.

              With my new account, I am walking on egg shells to avoid a repeat performance.
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        • Profile picture of the author SOriginal
          Originally Posted by jgeeked View Post

          Yes the views may "not be real" but you are looking at things the wrong way.

          If your trying to establish a video/channel it's hard. So why not speed up the process by sending, say 100,000 views to it and getting it featured on the frontpage? The "fake" views then get converted into real ones, as people see the video on the homepage and generally click it.

          A few weeks back, a client of mine ordered 200,000 overnight views. I delivered them in 48 hours. 72 hours later the video had gone completely viral, and those 200,000 views turned into just over a million. The extra traffic was enough to crash there servers, and they actually saw a ROI of 600%
          I cant pm because of my post count, but what other view packages do you offer and how much for? Do you have a site?
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        • Profile picture of the author MilkerFocus
          Wow! That's so cool! If you use them in smart way, it's perfect! :rolleyes:

          Originally Posted by jgeeked View Post

          Yes the views may "not be real" but you are looking at things the wrong way.

          If your trying to establish a video/channel it's hard. So why not speed up the process by sending, say 100,000 views to it and getting it featured on the frontpage? The "fake" views then get converted into real ones, as people see the video on the homepage and generally click it.

          A few weeks back, a client of mine ordered 200,000 overnight views. I delivered them in 48 hours. 72 hours later the video had gone completely viral, and those 200,000 views turned into just over a million. The extra traffic was enough to crash there servers, and they actually saw a ROI of 600%
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  • Profile picture of the author geraldsoh
    My advice is, don't buy!

    Most likely, like what Tenzho mentioned, they run software. So you are not getting REAL PEOPLE's view. You just got ripped off $5!

    You may want to contact youtubers with high views but don't know how to monetize their video. Pay them a sum to buy over their Youtube account which has the "viral" video...put your link in it...VIOLA!

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  • Profile picture of the author Mbullard
    Some of the black hat forums are talking about a problem with buying/increasing views. It happens when your video hits 'around' the 300 mark. I say 'around' because it happens at some pretty weird numbers, but always around 300. Apparently the views get going great from 0 - ~300 but after that, they pause. Then the views come slower for a while. What the black hatters are thinking is that from 0 - 300, anything counts as a view. After that, YouTube pays more attention to your video and tightens up what it considers a view. It's all theory but they haven't been able to figure it out. So make sure you are buying views from a service that has real people.

    Or just don't but views at all and go the legit route.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tenzho
      Originally Posted by Mbullard View Post

      Some of the black hat forums are talking about a problem with buying/increasing views. It happens when your video hits 'around' the 300 mark. I say 'around' because it happens at some pretty weird numbers, but always around 300. Apparently the views get going great from 0 - ~300 but after that, they pause. Then the views come slower for a while. What the black hatters are thinking is that from 0 - 300, anything counts as a view. After that, YouTube pays more attention to your video and tightens up what it considers a view. It's all theory but they haven't been able to figure it out. So make sure you are buying views from a service that has real people.

      Or just don't but views at all and go the legit route.
      Once your Youtube view hit around 300, Youtube will carefully evaluate unique views and repeated views, it takes a few days before your youtube video view will run as normal again.

      that is why sometimes you see 300 views but 10,000 likes on a viral/popular Youtube video when they are uploaded recently.
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    • Profile picture of the author hmartin90
      Originally Posted by Mbullard View Post

      Some of the black hat forums are talking about a problem with buying/increasing views. It happens when your video hits 'around' the 300 mark. I say 'around' because it happens at some pretty weird numbers, but always around 300. Apparently the views get going great from 0 - ~300 but after that, they pause. Then the views come slower for a while. What the black hatters are thinking is that from 0 - 300, anything counts as a view. After that, YouTube pays more attention to your video and tightens up what it considers a view. It's all theory but they haven't been able to figure it out. So make sure you are buying views from a service that has real people.

      Or just don't but views at all and go the legit route.
      I think they are right. I have a site that gets 80+ views a day, but analytics shows like 10. If they don't like your traffic, it's game over!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom E
    Originally Posted by MilkerFocus View Post

    Wonder if we buy YouTube views in Fiverr, What's the disadvantage?
    If you're simply building Social Proof, buying views from Fiverr is great, as it's cheap and fast. However, there are sites out there that deliver cheaper traffic than Fiverr.

    If you're buying views to try to rank better, you're wasting your money, unless you buy it from a site that delivers real human traffic, and you send something like 100 000 views to one video overnight. Of course, that'll cost you a pretty penny, but depending on what you're promoting, it is sometimes worth it.

    Someone here answered that youtube may blacklist your video, but that is not what happens, unless you're a big player. Youtube isn't after the small fish - you can bot your video views till your blue in the face, but as long as you're just adding a few thousand every day, you'll fly under the radar.

    But even if you're "big fish", purchasing something like 1 million views over night, you'll still fly under the radar, as long as those views are human, and as long as your video is good, and not some marketing/spam video.

    I'm saying this as an experienced youtube marketer and youtube partner, with over 15 million views to my videos, delivered both organically and artificially boosted, so there is money where my mouth is.
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    • Profile picture of the author MilkerFocus
      Originally Posted by gr8tocre8 View Post

      If you're simply building Social Proof, buying views from Fiverr is great, as it's cheap and fast. However, there are sites out there that deliver cheaper traffic than Fiverr.

      If you're buying views to try to rank better, you're wasting your money, unless you buy it from a site that delivers real human traffic, and you send something like 100 000 views to one video overnight. Of course, that'll cost you a pretty penny, but depending on what you're promoting, it is sometimes worth it.

      Someone here answered that youtube may blacklist your video, but that is not what happens, unless you're a big player. Youtube isn't after the small fish - you can bot your video views till your blue in the face, but as long as you're just adding a few thousand every day, you'll fly under the radar.

      But even if you're "big fish", purchasing something like 1 million views over night, you'll still fly under the radar, as long as those views are human, and as long as your video is good, and not some marketing/spam video.

      I'm saying this as an experienced youtube marketer and youtube partner, with over 15 million views to my videos, delivered both organically and artificially boosted, so there is money where my mouth is.
      There are sites out there that deliver cheaper traffic than Fiverr? Where?
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  • Profile picture of the author MilkerFocus
    Thanks All. Learned a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author MilkerFocus
    I brought YouTube Likes before in Fiverr. It offered me 1200 likes. And I checked, it wasture. But after few day, my likes reduced to be 657likes. ?!
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  • Profile picture of the author James B
    Are you referring to channel views? or actually video views?

    If your trying to automate a program, theres plenty at black hat world. lol. And your in the wrong forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author stephanreek
    if you just use view exchange software you can get it yourself with the same results easily, but it's better not to use it I think because it just is wasted time or money. unless you still need to get approved for the youtube partnerprogram.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    Buying views to a Youtube video seems pointless to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeverett
    My advise would be to not buy views to your video.

    One of the big problems on the internet is that a lot of people try to be something or someone they are not.

    If your video has a million views from nobody what does that actually mean? It means nothing at all. even if you get up to the top of you tube views when someone checks out the video and it is not very good they are going to just leave anyway and your video will die and you will have let more people know that you have a bad video.

    If the video was of something people want to see then you would not need to buy views in the first place.

    I know that this may seem very blunt and I do not want to sound mean here at all. I am just saying to be yourself and you will find the right people.

    I hope this helps you in some way.
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  • Profile picture of the author buildablogsite
    I wouldn't advise fiver gigs for over 300 views like mentioned before youtube tightens when this is flagged to them. These gigs will only social proof your video, if you want a service that has unique views that won't get flagged and do deliver google it dont fiver it... there are some gems out there.

    Just make sure, they use real people (no bots or spam accounts) make sure that the views are dripped to your account over at least 7 days, if they have these chances are these are a better service.

    Hope this helps

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    • Profile picture of the author Tom E
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      You don't even have to send fake views and fake likes to YouTube to get banned. You only need to upload a set of videos that someone doesn't like.

      I have had two accounts at YouTube banned, simply because they did not like the videos I loaded on the their site. Both accounts had videos that were obviously marketing videos.

      I know others who have met similar fates at YT.

      With my new account, I am walking on egg shells to avoid a repeat performance.
      That generally only applies to young youtube accounts. If you have a well established account that's been churning out quality material for a while, they'll just remove the videos in question - not your channel.

      Originally Posted by Tadresources View Post

      Buying views to a Youtube video seems pointless to me.
      See my answer to Jeverett below.

      Originally Posted by jeverett View Post

      My advise would be to not buy views to your video.

      If your video has a million views from nobody what does that actually mean? It means nothing at all.

      If the video was of something people want to see then you would not need to buy views in the first place.
      I couldn't possibly disagree more. I know of 2 artists (that I can think of right now) who struggled for years, releasing videos on youtube, without getting more than a few hundred views.

      Then they purchased 1million overnight views (or enough to get them on YT's front page), and their lives were changed forever, as hundreds of thousands of real people clicked onto their video, liked what they saw, and became subscribers and customers. They were also contacted by multiple members of major press, and they now have blooming careers. All because they bought youtube views.

      I think you've watched too much TV my friend - contrary to your statement - just because you have an amazing video with viral potential doesn't mean that it's going to go viral. The same way that having a hit song/idea/product/whatever is by no means a guarantee that you'll go far with it. Buying youtube views gives you an actual shot.

      A healthy percentage of famous youtube partners (who are now very rich) got there only because they bought their way to YT's frontpage before they had any subscribers.

      Of course, if you have a crappy video, you can do all the view boosting in the world, and it won't make any difference.
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        Originally Posted by tpw View Post

        You don't even have to send fake views and fake likes to YouTube to get banned. You only need to upload a set of videos that someone doesn't like.

        I have had two accounts at YouTube banned, simply because they did not like the videos I loaded on the their site. Both accounts had videos that were obviously marketing videos.

        I know others who have met similar fates at YT.

        With my new account, I am walking on egg shells to avoid a repeat performance.
        Originally Posted by gr8tocre8 View Post

        That generally only applies to young youtube accounts. If you have a well established account that's been churning out quality material for a while, they'll just remove the videos in question - not your channel.

        My first banned account had been live on YouTube for five years. I only had about ten videos, but the whole channel was nuked.

        My second banned account had 3 videos that were not marketing videos, but training videos -- teaching people the basics of search queries.
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  • Profile picture of the author trilogy9013
    I would not recommend getting views for youtube from fiverr. It just isn't reliable and the quality is extremely poor most of the time causing your account to get banned or watched closely by google.

    However, sometimes it helps to get youtube views when you are targeting competitive keywords. Most of the services out there are completely awful but the one that i find does work extremely well and is pretty affordable is workingyoutubeviews.com.

    They deliver fantastic service with unique i.p.'s and you can control how quickly you get the views and even deliver one package to multiple videos / accounts. Really cool and def. worth a look if you are going after competitive keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author geraldsoh
    Why do you want to buy Youtube views at the first place?

    If your video is very good...thousands and millions of people will like and share it..it can be VIRAL!

    You can use Viewet software to get more views for your video!

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  • Profile picture of the author socialmedia4hire
    For YouTube marketing, I've bought youtube views for a client (not from Fiverr) from a website that claims they have real views, I ordered 5K of views and they sent it in a day, at which point, it froze the viewcount for 3 days while YouTube verified the validity - it ended up increasing by only about 2K after YouTube unfroze it. However, the views were watched for the full length with this service as you can go into YouTube -> video manager -> select your video -> go to "Audience Retention" and you can see how long it's watched for

    If you're trying to just show your popularity by increasing the viewcount, then by all means, go for Fiverr or any other types of websites offering this service.

    What I'm using now and also to actually build a real fan base since that's what my clients are after is TubeToolBox . What it does is you can search for the top videos that's viewed in your keywords on YouTube, then you can gather all the people who've commented on the video and put them on a list (or even those that have ever made any comments on that user's videos).

    You can then send those people a message or share your video with them - it's fairly straight forward with a push of a button. It does comply with YouTube's service in that it only sends out a certain amount of number at a time to ensure you don't get banned from spamming people.

    You can also specify the age or location of people if you want to target them that way for your customer demographic. Fairly straight-forward and friendly for people that want to automate things.

    So far, for one of my client's videos - have shared the video with 1000 people and have received an increase of 40 likes to the video + comments + 700 views.

    Let me know if you have any other questions and good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Linusthehobo
    Audience retention is THE most importatnt piece of the puzzle I believe. It is the only way that YouTube knows if your video should be ranked higher.

    Imagine 2 videos one each same length, one has 70% audience retention the other has 20% ... which does it dsplay first all else being equal?

    If you search Fiverr for "audience retention" there are folks who sell those cheap enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    What if you buy the views, then after you get the views.... your video(s) still doesn't produce alot of traffic itself? I would use direct marketing to drive the targeted and interested viewers to your video. Alot of them will become subscribers and come back to view more videos that you come out with.
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  • Profile picture of the author luciesmazanska
    Dont buy!....as some above mentioned. Views are generated by software in many times.
    Rather focus on likes, related comments and Subscriptions, to tell YouTube´s algorithm that your video is "the best" to rank you higher!.
    My opinion is: its better to get less likes, views and comments but this will be from REAL PEOPLE
    like....get tons of FAKE VIEWS from robots, you will lose 5 dollars for nothing.

    think about that
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    • Profile picture of the author Andre Slater
      Your better off taking your money that you would spend on fiverr and actually buy traffic from YouTube... Promote your video on YouTube using YouTube...

      Here is how...

      1. Go to YouTube
      2. Go to video manager
      3. Find your video
      4. Click the little down arrow next to edit
      5. Scroll down to you see PROMOTE it's right before delete...

      YouTube will love to help you get views and they wont ban you unless its against their terms...

      If you buy traffic and fake traffic YT will find out and they will ban your channel pretty quick
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    Why do you want to buy views?
    I've been using YouTube from the outset and make great Adsense income from it by uploading quality engaging videos. If you do that the views will come. YouTube is a slow burner.....keep those videos there picking up natural views and in some years you will see the fruits of your efforts. For the love of God stay away from make money online videos.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    Why do you want to buy views?
    The whole idea behind using YT for marketing is getting a share of their organic traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevenjcampbell
    Low quality views from low quality sources usually get caught by YouTube.

    Meaning, specifically that they will know that they are not views. There are instead computer generated.
    Realistically? How are they going to deliver thousands of real genuine views to you anyhow?

    Just go and search on Google for the YouTube 301 algorithm.

    Downsides?
    Losing your monetization?
    Having or channel shut down?
    Yup that's optional. Could happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author dawoodkhan97
    DON'T buy views from Fiverr!
    They are fake! All fake claims
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