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sirtiman

11 years ago

Make a blog, get some traffic, find quality backlinks, put ads on them. You'll make some money...

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Frank Donovan 11 years ago

Whatever you make, be sure to put aside some money for the trademark violation lawsuits you could end up fighting.
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- Randall Magwood 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Frank Donovan
  
  Whatever you make, be sure to put aside some money for the trademark violation lawsuits you could end up fighting.
  
  Ditto that. You should reconsider marketing these websites. Just start over and create a site that will allow you to sell any affiliate products that you're promoting on the sites you have listed.
  
  I remember master copywriters' Gary Halbert and John Carlton had to contact this one guy who was advertising on the PPC search results with the phrase "trained by Gary Halbert and John Carlton". And in actuality, he never even met Gary and John in his life. They told him to take down that ad and any affiliation to them that he claims on his website also.
  
  Luckily they didnt sue the guy, but you never know in a situation like yours. Large companies like the ones you're assimilating in your domain names probably won't be too friendly.
  
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prasanth5

11 years ago

Originally Posted by sirtiman

Make a blog, get some traffic, find quality backlinks, put ads on them. You'll make some money...

It looks a simple way of making money. You are right. Making money by publishing ads is indeed an interesting method.

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Brenny76065

11 years ago

dc5,

I think the distinction that Richard and others are trying to make is that you have a choice of two goals -- to make a quick buck or to build a business. If your goal is to make a quick buck, go ahead and roll the dice to see if you can get away with it. However, do be prepared to have all of your effort be for naught if you do get caught. If your goal is to build a long term business venture (which it should be), then you should not build your house on sand and risk losing everything when the tide changes. Build your business in a solid foundation.

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dc53123

11 years ago

Brenny... couldn't agree with you more. Thanks for the feedback. Agree with the concepts and idea to build a long-term business is better. For sure.

but... I have these domains and should do something with them.

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Gene Pimentel

11 years ago

Originally Posted by dc53123

Brenny... couldn't agree with you more. Thanks for the feedback. Agree with the concepts and idea to build a long-term business is better. For sure.

but... I have these domains and should do something with them.

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dc, I apologize for my initial comment. That's just the way I feel after seeing this same situation a hundred times. I've been a full time domainer for many years. Take this advice, or don't. I'm going to tell you that if you monetize any of these domains, you WILL eventually get at minimum a cease & desist letter. Ignore that, and you'll likely be sued, and/or fined ($100,000.00 is the norm). It makes absolutely no sense to do anything with these domains but let them drop. Why would you put time and effort into something that will be taken away from you? With high profile trademarks like the ones you're using, it's not "if", it's "when". Mark my words.

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Richard Van

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel

dc, I apologize for my initial comment. That's just the way I feel after seeing this same situation a hundred times. I've been a full time domainer for many years. Take this advice, or don't. I'm going to tell you that if you monetize any of these domains, you WILL eventually get at minimum a cease & desist letter. Ignore that, and you'll likely be sued, and/or fined ($100,000.00 is the norm). It makes absolutely no sense to do anything with these domains but let them drop. Why would you put time and effort into something that will be taken away from you? With high profile trademarks like the ones you're using, it's not "if", it's "when". Mark my words.

In all fairness to Dan, I spoke with him by PM and apologised myself for sounding harsh, I was just trying to discourage him though. He seems a genuine nice guy and I told him I couldn't recommend he did anything with them. I was in a pickle for doing this some years ago.

I did mention you were the foremost person I know on domains so I'm glad you came back to say this, I hope this discourages others too. No point starting this and trying to make a fast buck with all that risk when you can just build yourself a nice business.

He's a nice guy though so I hope he does this the right way.

Well said Gene.

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Chris-

11 years ago

Do comprehensive Amazon reviews of relevant Products and alternatives/competitors, then as soon as you've built up the income, sell the site quick to avoid all the trademark lawsuits

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Gene Pimentel

11 years ago

:::face palm:::

This is like a recurring nightmare.

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Richard Van 11 years ago

It does make me wonder why some people go into business.

Not bothering to set up a company or bother with accounts is one thing but not even bothering to understand if what you're doing is legal or treading on a company with more money than the OP's made up of molecules - is quite another.

Mind you, you can't blame the OP when some people can't even see what is happening and others recommend making a quick buck and selling it before the likes of Adobe catch up with him. :rolleyes:

That's the difference between building up a business and just taking the p*** until you get caught.

Incidentally, Chris, when he builds the site up with all this Amazon stuff you're on about, how does he develop the psychic powers to instinctively know when Adobe have cottoned on to his trademark violation?

Or have you not actually done this but you think it may be a good idea to make a very short lived amount of income? Or worse still are you a seasoned marketer who does this and you're recommending newbies do it, which is totally irresponsible?
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akmal85

11 years ago

Sell back those domain names or build review sites then flip them fast.

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Thrazgard

11 years ago

The best way to monetize those domains, is to let the trademark and copyright owners do it.

I want to make it perfectly clear to you, using domains with trademarks or brand names is illegal. You can stop yourself from pursuing this disaster, or you can go ahead and get shutdown and literally locked up, after the rightful owners sue you for everything you are worth.

Illegal. Don't monetize. Bad.

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unap143

11 years ago

I suggest that you do affiliates like amazon,adsense,google analytics and clickbank.

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Richard Van 11 years ago

Originally Posted by unap143

I suggest that you do affiliates like amazon,adsense,google analytics and clickbank.

I suggest you get a better understanding of what you're talking about.

Analytics is for tracking, it has nothing to do with the other monetization methods you described.

With respect, if that's where you are in this, I would read instead of giving out advice, for everyone else's sake.
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faysal969

11 years ago

You can make review sites and install adsence and also Affiliate links for monetizing your domains.

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Richard Van 11 years ago

Originally Posted by faysal969

You can make review sites and install adsence and also Affiliate links for monetizing your domains.

Ok I give up. Seems the clueless brigade are going to win by sheer numbers again. :rolleyes:
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TopKat22

11 years ago

Well, I wouldn't attempt to go after those markets in the first place.

If you are justing starting, the most important place to start is market research and then niche research if the market is very large and maybe even micro niche research.

You want to find markets that are profitable and reachable by you. It doesn't matter what another marketer finds reachable. If you do not have the knowledge or skill, yet, then you need to go with something that is easier for YOU to reach.

Then you need to do the keyword research on any markets you find to make sure there are buyers.

Also, if you are wanting to make some money faster, you would want to look for "buying" type keywords and not just "I want more information on that or I want it free" keywords.

This is where I think most money making marketers spend the most amount of their time, in the research stage and what most newbies skip altogether because they don't know how important it is.

Once you find a niche and keyword, you can monetize your site by creating a product, by selling affiliate products, by putting adsense on your site, and/or by building a list and offering products and service to your subscribers.

However, I would NOT combine adsense if you want the person to just optin or to just buy a product.

Whatever is the primary purpose of your site, do that.

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dc53123

11 years ago

I'm quite disappointed by the feedback for this post. Yes, I get it that there could be copyright violation (potentially), however there are hundreds if not thousands of sites out there that have a companies name and/or products in their domain and promoting on their website. Why are they not ALL taken to court and sued??

This makes me think that some of those posting don't see the entire picture. How is it that thousands of people are doing this and the best I get for a recommendation is to get rid of these sites and not try to monetize them.

I guess I was looking for some legitimate advice on how to actually monetize sites like these, avoiding lawsuits of course. I know it can be done... just may have to be clever.

Any comments on the thousands of people doing this with similar sites? I don't believe it always ends up in a lawsuit.

And in fact... the website symantec-norton.com is making tens of thousands per month via affiliate commissions!!

What gives?

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Richard Van

11 years ago

Originally Posted by dc53123

I'm quite disappointed by the feedback for this post. Yes, I get it that there could be copyright violation (potentially), however there are hundreds if not thousands of sites out there that have a companies name and/or products in their domain and promoting on their website. Why are they not ALL taken to court and sued??

Are all the rapists, murderers and drug dealers in the world all nicely caught and banged up inside?

It's not copyright infringement either, it's trademark violation. You really ought to know this if it's what you want to do.

This makes me think that some of those posting don't see the entire picture. How is it that thousands of people are doing this and the best I get for a recommendation is to get rid of these sites and not try to monetize them.

See my first point. Just because someone else is doing it, doesn't make it right and believe me, if you do get sued, that's hardly going to be a good excuse.

I guess I was looking for some legitimate advice on how to actually monetize sites like these, avoiding lawsuits of course. I know it can be done... just may have to be clever.

Yes you do need to be very clever and seeing as you don't know the difference between copyright infringement and trademark violation I wouldn't bother going there.

I guess I was looking for some legitimate advice on how to actually monetize sites like these, avoiding lawsuits of course. I know it can be done... just may have to be clever.

You actually want people on this forum to advise you of ways to infringe and violate someones trademark?

Sorry if my advice, which was intended to help you, wasn't what you'd like to hear, I'll remedy that now for you....

Ignore my advice as someone that has been sued. Don't listen to those whose advice, no matter how helpful it's intended to be, doesn't sound like something you want to hear. Go ahead and and do what you want with those domains but please - Do not come back here and ask for advice if it all goes t*ts up because I for one will be the first one here to remind you of this thread.

I'll also make a point of not trying to help you avoid trouble in future and I apologise about the fact my response didn't meet your expressed approval. I can assure you my intentions were to help you, seeing as in your OP you didn't seem to realise you had purchased domains that by law belong to someone else.

Can I also just add, if you think that you need Adobe in the domain to make it rank, you need to learn more about other ways to market online.

Again, forgive me if I sound harsh, I'm trying to help you and I realise you have good intentions at heart.

EDIT. Brenny I'm out of thanks but that was an excellent post.

EDIT 2. Frank Donavan and Gene Pimentel are extremely experienced marketers, Gene is a domain name expert. I don't see the point in asking for advice if you're going to ignore people like that.

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sackboy127

11 years ago

If you really want to stick with these domains, I'd say content locking.

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gasman

11 years ago

We can sit here and give you a ton of monetizing methods, but no one can really say just by looking at the domains you have given us. It depends on what you want to do with those domains. For example, if you are making informational website, something as simple as Adsense may do the trick. However, the best way to find out what your best monetizing method will be is to test several of them.

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neowords 11 years ago

What is more important for a new trademark and project? Backlinks or traffic?
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Gene Pimentel

11 years ago

Thanks Richard. I posted that for exactly that reason - to hopefully make others think twice.

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dc53123 11 years ago

@ Gene and Richard

Thanks for the feedback, I trust your judgement and imagine you've been in this game for must longer than I have. I will certainly take what you have said into consideration and learn from your experience.

There are several other projects I am working on, so this isn't tragic to let these domains go... just kind of a bummer b/c they are quite good names.

Perhaps at a later time, i will reach out to you both with some thoughts about a few other niches I'm working in.

Richard Van - I'll still be responding to your PM message - appreciate this and it is helpful.

Gene - Would like to ask you what you do online as your primary source of income and if you have tips for beginners? Feel free to private PM me as well... would love to hear from you.

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- Gene Pimentel 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by dc53123
  
  Gene - Would like to ask you what you do online as your primary source of income and if you have tips for beginners?
  
  I sell domain names. Lots of tips. See below.
  
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