Article Mass Submitting Is A Complete Waste Of Time And Money - And This Is Why You Shouldn't Do It

Most do it for the purposes of back links.

Nice post Allen.

Makes me sleep a little easier at night solely submitting my content to ezine. I have been getting good results too.

I submit my original articles to ezinearticle and "shorten version" or changeat least 30% of the original contents and of course with different headline to other major article directories ...

I totally agree with the point sending to thousands the only advantage is getting "direct traffic", but for me , it is A LOTS of extra free traffic

Thanks Eric - but shouldn't one believe that Yahoo and MSN wouldn't want duplicate results either.

When it comes to mass-submission for backlinks...people are taking advantage of the algorithms and trying to trick the SEs into thinking that their article is better than someone else's when in fact it may not be. Right? Well that's simply not working anymore.

If you are mass-submitting for direct traffic then it goes back to wasting money because you're not going to get the direct traffic from all those directories. Maybe one hit a day...MAYBE.

Again, things are always changing on the internet and this is one of those things that isn't static - I just don't see it working anymore. (And for others reading this, I mean see it, not guess it)

You're right, though. No need to torment. If you work a campaign with integrity and honesty then it all works out - especially in the long run.

At least for right now...

AL

Is this why my EZA articles got 25% more views than any other month in January?

All the articles I submit to EZA are original. I then rewrite them 100% (apart from the title sometimes) and submit them to a handfull of other places.

As for what Google thinks. All my websites are 100% original content written by me and they get a fair amount of SE traffic. But the traffic coming directly from Google is almost non-existent. I try to do my best to please G but in the end I think I'm wasting my time.

Steve

have to disagree, Allen. If you submit variations of your article (i.e. different each time) you can really dominate the serps. Aim for 65 - 75% different every time, and google (at time of writing) seems to regard them as different articles (you need to change the title every time as well, and the resource box, obviously).

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I would very much agree submitting to 1,000's of article directories is a waste of not only time but server resources. There are not 1,000's that get decent traffic and no traffic = no traffic for your articles, thus it is a waste. Not to mention almost all submitters use generic categories to submit your articles.

Articles submitted to article directories should be used for backlinks and traffic from the article directory both. There are a good 50+ article directories that do have decent traffic. You can very well generate 20 or 30 unique visits a day from each article directory. Getting this traffic depends upon how you do your marketing, just submitting an article and doing nothing else may or may not help you. I will not release any secrets on how to get traffic from your articles here, but realize you can use those articles for direct traffic without google.

I would agree with Eric above and I have said it many times myself, there is more than just google. If you are putting all your efforts into google itself then you are wasting your time and money. When you leave out yahoo, msn, excite, aol, and etc. then you are making the biggest mistake you could ever make with your business.

There are so many factors involved with this that it is almost impossible to keep up. If you are just grabbing up that junk submitter and slapping your article in it and click a submit button and do nothing else then I will agree with Allen's post 100%.. I always laugh when people say "I submit to 5,000 article directories", I do not laugh to be rude but it is really funny that someone cons you into thinking that there is 5,000 article directories that have real traffic.

Again I am not going to release any *secrets* in this post but let me tell you why you are wasting your time and money when submitting to so-called 5,000 article directories.

* There is not 5,000 article directories that have real traffic.
* Unless you visit those articles directories you have no idea if it is nofollow or not.
* Unless you visit those articles directories you have no idea if your article is submitted or not.
* Some articles directories do not allow html while others do, if your article has html that is not allowed then it is rejected no matter what that software tells you.
* Some article directories allow links inthe body, if you are not taking advantage of this then you are losing money.
* Almost all submitters use generic categories, if the article directory does not have that generic category then your article will never be submitted no matter what that software tells you. Also by using generic categories your article may or may not be posted in the proper category, which means 0 traffic for you if posted in wrong category.
* Out of these so-called 5,000 article directories you will be lucky (yes this is a guess) if 100 is actually counted as backlinks.
* Many article directories actually require double return between paragraphs for your article to look proper, for example GoArticles. On the other hand if you use a double return for ArticleDashboard then your article looks like crap.
* If you are using 2 links in your resource box and not using a double return then many article directories will have that resource all as one line.

This is just a few reasons why you are wasting time and money on submitting to a so-called 5,000 article directories. Again there are many factors involved in submitting articles and if you are not taking advantage of these factors then you are losing a great deal of money and wasting a great deal of time.

At the same time if you are only submitting to the top 10 article directories and doing nothing else then you are leaving a great deal of money on the table....

As tina posted above

This is very true, google will display more than one result...

James

6000 links with the same anchor text is not a good thing. Natural linking the slow and easy way will bring you great results. Have a little patience and focus on quality. The traffic will come, especially if you do something each and every day to promote your sites.

TomG.

Recently I have been trying to place my EZA articles on my website. They are copied word for word

Is this a mistake?

Well I guess it depends on why you are mass submitting,

If you are going it for Google then its a waste of time, but if you are doing it for visitors then its not.

And what I've just released is that most of the sales conversions come from my articles then search engines.

So mass submissions works best for me in terms of conversions. But I only submit to the popular article directories.

But how do you think those visitors GOT to your articles? Not from browsing through KillerArticlesAboutAnything.com or any of those other 4,999 crap directories - they found your article from a search result. And those search results are only going to be there from a select few article directories per niche.

Consumers don't browse article directories, they browse Google, Yahoo and MSN.

By the way, if you only submit to the popular article directories, then you are not mass-submitting. There are only a couple dozen popular directories out there.

AL

Let's not forget that we are talking about article traffic. There's a big difference in mindset when speaking of article traffic vs. website traffic.

At least in my convoluted mind. LOL

(I just want to add also that this is just one tiny little piece of the entire article marketing puzzle. Much depends on your audience, your writing style, your MO, your POV, on-page SEO, title, resource and all those other aspects of article marketing that make up the entire picture.)

AL

i tried mass submitting and it's not that effective...i even tried spinning and submitting to 10 directories...but that was really a waste of time...

now, i just submit to Ezinearticles which brings the best bang for my buck

There is more to the internet than Google.

The same article could be found by eager readers on multiple sites without ever searching on Google or the other search engines.

For mass submission to have any benefit whatsoever. You need to spin your articles and yes this does take time. Preparation for spinning is laborious, writing each sentence a different way 4-5 times is a pain. Having spun you have to believe you have defeated the algorithm LSI and all, no one knows if you have done so successfully or not because there is no proof.

We need to judge whether spinning with all it's hassles and crap output is giving us any benefit and whether another unique article might be preferable.

I will never visit 99% of article directories and never will but I will search Google dozens of times a day and this is the profile of 99% of searchers.

I have a feeling Google is getting sick of mass submission and article spinners, and it will only be a matter of time before the benefits of these tactics will be degraded.

Gotta run - what a great debate! See you guys all later...

Jay,

Google will bring you traffic day in and day out. When your articles are buried in the article directory's pages, Google's first page results will bring you the traffic. I am in this for the long run, short runs are a different story.

TomG.

Thank you - I found that really useful - I'm new to all this so appreciate all the info I can get
cheers

I know a service that charge you 30 bucks for writing and submitting an article to 100 sites.

If I submit one of those each day and only get 1 visitor a day from each submission I will get 365 visitors a day after a full year. If my products converts at 2 per cent I will make 7,3 sales each day. The cost will be $10.950.

If the commision for each sale is 25 you will after one year make 7,3x $25= $182,5 a day, or $66.160 a year. A pretty good full income.

Just wanted to show how one more visit a day helps you to grow your business.

@ Allen

"which ONE they are going to display in the SERPs - and this is all separate from the algorithm which decideWhen the Google spiders find duplicate content on more than one domain, they will group all of those pages into a virtual "bucket." Then they analyze all of the pages in the bucket and decide ws where you will actually rank in the SERPs for your keyword phrases.

The bucket is re-analyzed at different intervals.

So this again raises the question...why would you waste your time and money by submitting to 50,000 different websites when Google is only going to display one of them when all is said and done?"



I am basing that conclusion on Allen's opening post, I don't know for definite but then none of us do. If you follow the logic of his argument that only one article or text will be selected from the the bucket. Then the only way to get round this is spinning and hoping that Google think it's different unique article.

Just because mass submission worked in the past(even now) does not mean will work in the future. It's good we have been alerted so we can be aware of it now and can develop alternative strategies if required.

Can anyone give me a list of the top Article Directories to submit to?

Great post Allen. I hope everyone sees the value in this information being shared by you. Its great when folks that know more about a particular topic than I put in the hundreds of hours (and dollars) to do the research, and then share it at no cost.

CNN produces and "submits" articles. They are everywhere. People talk about them , they blog about them , they post them on their sites ( even when theyre not supposed to ) , they put CNN's RSS feeds on their sites , they post forum posts about them and in short generate massive traffic for CNN.

CNN do OK with articles , probably because they're really good and people want to read them.

$5 articles and spun articles wont do this. Compare the effect of 1 CNN article vs 1000 of yours. Can you imagine how long they would last if they produced spun articles?

I have done well with articles and badly with them too. Every time - it was the crappy article that failed.

Im not sure if I derailed this thread with this...but perhaps its just an observation of the effect of quality?

Hmmmm,

When I search on Google for my articles I see quite a few listings for them. So this idea isn't in concrete. It may happen for some I suppose...

Hi Allen:

Hope you are well. Thanks for the post and advice. I am confused on one issue. Sorry if I read the thread incorrectly.

Let me set something up so we can compare. What if you have been writing quality threads/articles on the internet. Although Google does not enjoy being fooled you submit the article to a myriad of sites. Is it possible that the amount of people you reach with the quality content of the article and the potential for them to buy your products outweigh what search engines think, or is the evidence 100 percent that you can market to every Article site on the internet but the better results come with making Google happy and only using Ezine or Go?

Thanks for the clarification.

Look guys and girls, I have been doing this for many years and I have seen all of the gimmicks come and go. And the simple fact is that they have all ended up on the cutting room floor along with a great many webmaster's hopes and dreams. I've seen it happen a LOT. Especially in the 2007-2008 era.

There are other marketers out there - Shainin, Platt, Hall, Wagenheim, Reichenberger, Herring, Kelsall, Gorman, and the list goes on - that have perservered and can tell you what works in article marketing...

The ONLY thing that works - AND CONTINUES TO WORK AFTER YEARS - is running a legitimate, honest and white-hat campaign with INTEGRITY, and doesn't involve trying to cheat the system.

I have challenged anyone for proof that I am incorrect and I have not heard anything except for a bunch of crazy claims.

It won't take you long. If you are serious about your article marketing and you are wondering if what I am saying is legit, then go to Google Help, Google Webmaster Tools, Google Moderator and while you're at it, sign up for all their blog feeds (As a webmaster, you should be doing this anyway IMO).

You will quickly see that what I say in my OP, and the attached blog link about duplicate content, is in fact true.

All I have done is take that information and apply it, literally, to the article marketing world. Not as a directory owner or CEO, but as the hybrid marketer, directory owner, statistic researcher and teacher.

After reading the information from Google, if you want to trick the SE's and get the entire first page of Google pointing to a single article of yours...go for it! But you are frankly the kind of person that I don't want to be around in the internet marketing world. I've been at this for years and have made a great living from providing quality content and getting results from hard work and integrity.

The gimmicks work! Don't get me wrong. You can make a killing with them. But they don't last. If they did last, then we would have all figured out the answer by now and every one of us would be financially free.

Finally, I have a lot of information and I like to share it. Shit changes all the time on the internet and I pride myself on being one of the most up-to-date and informed article marketers on this planet (shameless, I know). And every day that goes by I have more and more content to study and more time invested in testing and results.

Like I said in the OP. You can take my word for it, you can do your own research, or you can just wait and see...but then you'll just be a follower. I suggest finding out the truth and making your own decisions.

There is an amazing difference between following your competition vs. leading the pack!

Respectfully,
Allen Graves

Mr Munch - That sounds like a great plan. If you can get to that level, it sounds like a killer investment!

Madison - Great words there! "...if it is true we can think of other strategies." Innovation can literally change your entire life. But be safe and always have a contingency plan!

Blase - Thanks a lot. But it's my job and I love it!

Madison - Syndication was put into place for that very reason...to provide content for other websites. THAT is what it's for...it's purpose is NOT to spam the first page of the SERPs with the same info over and over again. Nor is that what search engines are for! IMO, of course.

And the "bucket" information - came straight from Google. If they are being tricked, they'll find out and they will create a way to stop it. It has happened hundreds of times in the past and will continue. IMO, of course.

Lloyd - It's not really fair to compare CNN.com with any of the websites owned by Warriors. But if we were to do that, I would have to agree with what you are saying, furthering the point that white-hat syndication and marketing works very well.

LKlein - If you search for specific text, or search in "Quotes", they will give you multiple duplicate results. Not sure if they do it on purpose (for us) or if they just haven't developed to a high enough level to provide different results for those searches.

Cirrus - Yes, that's perfectly fine. You can submit the same information to as many sites as you want without worry of a penalty or SERPs decline. I think this is so that nobody can sabotage your efforts by duplicating YOUR content.

Craig - It's no problem to submit your content throughout the internet. That's why I have my own clients submit to several sites and directories and that is why I am syndicating my own content. The "tricking" part comes from the thought that all those backlinks are going to get you higher in the SERPs. That is what appears to have lost it's gusto since the beginning of the year.

I have been trying to establish that the 1,000 links out there don't matter as much because the directories your articles end up on are getting zero traffic and, therefore, zero click-throughs to your website. I could go purchase 1,000 domain names right now, write a quick progam and have a system in place to submit your articles to over 1,000 directories by early this afternoon. Add EZA and a few more "popular" directories and I'd be done.

I'd make a killing - but you wouldn't.

I'm not saying that this is what those services are doing - just trying to push the point of it all.

I practice and preach to find the sites that are WORTH IT - and only submit to those.

I don't want to come off as some kind of "know-it-all" or wannabe guru. I am simply passing some information I have along to you guys and gals. You can take it as being accurate, you can listen to someone else, you can do your own research, or you can do what a majority of serious AMers do - run tests and wait to see what happens.

Respectfully,
Allen Graves

certainly not. you're basically saying there is only ONE copy of an article in the index. Thats definitively not the case.


"President Obama elected".

You know, NEWS usually come from agencies like AP. Then the actual news companies (BBC, FOX, CBS, CNN, ...) "pick up" those news (yes, they also FILTER them according to what they think is relevant.)

Then CNN, CBC, FOX, BBC whatever publish those news. MANY from the same source (the news/press agency like AP).

Does Google filter all BUT ONE since it is the same story? No.

Why you shouldn't mass-submit - there is only 10 spots on most brousers (on SERPs)

Maybe I don't understand the original post, but how is submitting your article to several sites "tricking" or "gimmicking"?

I look at it as spreading the word. If it's something that can benefit others why not?

Of course if you are abusing this by submitting useless articles to millions of sites then I see the point.

Allen, the duplicate content might get filtered out, BUT the pages/domains where your content is will still get indexed...meaning that each backlink back to your site IS recorded and COUNTS toward your overall link popularity.

So I say - DISTRIBUTE THOSE ARTICLES!

None of my marketing is search engine freindly, I never want to be dependant on something that can move the goal posts in a heart beat and leave me stranded.

I'm with Allen on this one not interested in search engines at all, I just do good busineess marketing and if i end up with a decent serp somewhere way to go

if i dont oh well business as usual

Well, I've found this effective for 2 reasons:

1) Short Term SEO - Article sites that approve your articles quickly will show your article right away, thus it will show up in the SERPs quickly. And if there are a dozen or so article sites out of hundreds (or thousands), then you have really high chance of getting a bunch of those duplicate articles on the first - third pages of Google within hours of being accepted.

Thus you have multiple articles in the SERPs at a time, thus more exposure.

But like I said, this is only short term SEO. Once Google realizes that it is Dupe Cont, then they will remove those duplicates, usually within a day or 2, then you will just have the one left.

I'm ok with a burst of exposure for a day or two, especially in highly competitive/trafficked niches.

2) You do get that extra direct traffic from all those accepted articles. The article sites may not be heavily trafficked sites in and of themselves, but if you have 400 copies of the same article out there, and you get a lead from all of them (or even half or so), you can build a list very quickly.

Interesting.

Any more information on this "google bucket"? Does google have something on it, or more of a theory by someone?

Not everyone uses Google or even a search engine for that matter.

Regardless of Google and Buckets, Many people are at the sites hosting my article via desktop shortcut or bookmark.

I want the most amount of people to see my article/author link box and by mass submitting I'm accheiving that.

Louis

Currently, I submit my (identical articles) to EZA, Article Alley, Article Dashboard, Go Articles, Website Articles, Easy Articles, Article Click and Article Cube for 14 niches.

EZA produces 84% of my visitors (from article directories), Article Alley 7%, Article Dashboard 4%.

My stats come from Statcounter - basically the latest 500 entries in the log file for each niche. This means almost all the data should be for 2009.

Would anyone else care to share their hard data?

Just an FYI - I just made up the "bucket" term. Came from my days of running an intranet site for an accounts receivable company. I don't think you'll find this info in Google websites if you search for "bucket."

AL

Hi Precious,

That's a good test to run for a particular niche or product, but it doesn't really involve mass-submission.

Glad to see people who are actually testing and self-educating themselves!

AL

I think We're trying to pigeon hole something that is infinity more complex then a little bit of research will ever be able to determine.

A few statements made in this thread...

"There are only 10 results on the first page of serps"

This is true, but if one million people are searching for the same thing worldwide, these ten results will vary by hundreds of thousands.

Searching for "Google" will bring Google.com, but a more general term like "credit" will bring results varied by geographic location, search history, demographics, and a multitude of other factors we can only begin to guess.

"Thousands of useless directories"

Yes there are, and yes your could build 1000 sites in 24 hours, they would all be new, sandboxed, and useless for submission.

There are also thousands of directories that are well ran, promoted, optimized and aged to the point that make them well worth submitting to.
Just because you haven't heard of them, does that make their 1000 or so unique visitors per day useless?

A wedding planning article on EZA will quickly be lost in the multitude of submissions, not to mention the compitition within that niche.

Now you have the lowly Wedding Planning article directory, with only a few thousand visits per month. But you submitted a well written article- tightly focused to the niche your targeting. Because of the context and "authority" of this directory you get a whole lot more "targeted visitors".
Happens all the time, from my personal experience.

Clearly you would'nt want to submit a FOREX article to this same directory, the results would be much different.

"Only quality will build a solid business"

I happen to agree, but there are quite a few millionaire "black hatters" who will tell us different.
Nothing in IM is absolute...

"Submitting to multiple directories is a waste of time"

By hand, maybe... this is why you automate.

I completely disagree.

There are tools that allow submissions to article directories and blogs that will rotate content, giving unique titles and body content, that are not considered the same article on "8 million" sites. Thus giving unique content and a unique title adding some value to the page and links.

It's very difficult to throw out a blanket statement like this topic of discussion and not have anomalies where the statement made is not the case.

And of course, this is not the only method that you should be using to develop back links, This is only one of the tools in the arsenal.

Ray S.

Hi Eric,

I understand your comments about the wedding directory - but mass-submission is only practical for that wedding article if the service submits to a multitude of wedding directories.

Anyone in in any niche should already know about those niche directories and should be submitting there in the first place, along with EZA, GA, etc...for free. If they don't then they are definitely missing out.

Got to keep things real, though. Most of those 1,000 directories get nowhere near 1,000 visitors per day, bro. There are some on the actual authority sites (see last paragraph)...but most are WELL below that number...even the ones that get thousands and thousands of hits to their main website every day.

"Yes there are, and yes your could build 1000 sites in 24 hours, they would all be new, sandboxed, and useless for submission."

You are exactly right! Useless article directories abound and many of those submissions are going straight to those directories!

One thing I am noticing, though, is that a lot of article directories are slowly being killed off. Whether the owner decided to scrap the idea or they never got enough traffic or they couldn't handle the time committment or Google stopped sending them the traffic they once did - hundreds of directories are falling off the map lately.

If you're looking for a domain name that could come up available pretty soon, check out this list. There are some gems in here.

Here are a few of the recently defunkt article directories:

(note: if any of these are still active, they were down when I checked or they have not approved an article in over 6 months or they're just sitting there not being updated or not accepting new articles.)

niche-article-library.be
article-xplosion.com
article-domain.com
articlepyramind.com
floridaarticles.com
floirida-articles.com
thatarticleguy.com/articles
moneycommunity.biz
rssarticles.com
publishercloaninghouses.com
information-exchange.net
articlepyramid.com
shades.alchemycove.com
articlesbeyondbetter.com
a1-articles.co.uk
aboutwomenarticles.com
affiliatemarketingarticles.net
article-maze.com
articleblaze
articlebeam.com
articleliftoff.com
articlesaboutchina.com
articlesheaven.co.uk
convivium.co.za
freearticledatabase.com
internetmarketingarticles.org
networkmarketingarticles.net
retirement-articles.com
skillz4u.com
thatarticlesite.com
thearticlecavern.co.uk
theoldprintworks.net
uncommonreads.com
wedding-articles.net
winearticles.net
victortunggal.com
toprealestateinvestingarticles.org
thearticlesource.net
thearticleking.com
thearticleannex.com
taxfinancearticles.com
stickycontents.com
signaturecontent.com
setting-the-standard.com
repositorysubmission.com
realestatearticlesdirect.com/articles
rarearticle.com
preferrednetworkservices.com
onthenetnews.com
myarticlecolumn.com
my-own-article.com
learningminds.us
indebtcounselingresource.com
getthearticle.com
freewebcontentarticles.com
freewebcontent.org
freearticleseek.com
freearticlepromotion.com
freearticleposting.com
freeforallarticles.com
financialplanningarticles.info
ezinearticle.net
contentarticles.us
classarticles.com
catchcontent.com
cajun101.com
bylamoarticles.com
bestsellersworld.com/dashboard
best-articles-site.com
articlevillage.com
articlevaults.com
articlesportfolio.com
articlesmore.com
articleshield.com
yourarticle.info
wackum.com
superzines.com
solarpanelarticles.com
freshwords.liberospace.net
orbitaloc.com
mnez.com
make-money-fast-at-home.com/articles/
legalinfoarticles.com
freewebcontents.com
drugabusearticlesexchange.com
article-kingdom.co.uk
article.directory4u.org/
bigarticlesite.com
articlechupacabra.com
Bestsuccessarticles.com
artsymmetry.com
artikelen.drinkwaterbedrijf.nl
articledirectoryking.com
articlef.com
articlehighlight.com
articlesandauthors.com
articlesplash.com
articleszoom.com
articlewhirlpool.com
blogticles.com
casinoarticles.us
earticlesonline.com
ezineprime.com
jetarticles.com
online-free-articles.com
pyarticles.com
realestate-articles.info
morefreeinformation.com
spintopic.com
where-to-find.net
superzines.com
safeinsurancedirectory.com
legalinfoarticles.com
zapcontent.com
freearticlemaster.com
ezinevalley.com
ezinetology.com
articlesup.com
articlesr.us
article-kingdom.co.uk

This list is by far not all-inclusive. Now, how many of your articles got mass-submitted to these directories? How many more directories are going to drop off the map this year? At this rate, there won't be many left to choose from! LOL

Allen

Allen

New to internet marketing can anyone give us a heads up on some of the better directories to be submitting our articles to

PG

So its still OK to mass submit if you use different search engines?

I ask this cause I am currently programming a tool for myself to do that. Should I consider a search engine submission addon to make it usefull again. Or just abandon yet another "Great Idea" - LOL

Having said that I am glad that google doesn't give your pages penalties for being the same content.

I almost died when I considered how much time I had spent programming this tool already when I saw this post title

cheers

Steven,

I've missed seeing you around here as much!

Unfortunately, as we both know, most people will not do their own testing. Why? I have no idea...it really doesn't take much more time and effort - just a little mental and schedule planning.

To your post, I would like to say that if someone chooses not to test and be innovative in their mindset, then they will continue following the pack and doing what too many other people are already doing.

There's a huge difference between following the pack and leading them...HUGE!

Respectfully,
Allen Graves

You know what - there are a lot of different ideas on this thread, and some really good discussions going on.

I just wanted to thank everyone for their input and for keeping things under control.

I've gotten 3 or 4 PMs telling me that they cannot believe this thread hasn't started a huge fight and been deleted by now. Based on the last few months of article marketing hell-threads - I have to agree. LOL

Thanks again,
AL

Hey doesn't submitting articles take a lot of time... i mean i have submitted one article at ezine, and it's still pending....please can you share how i should submit articles becasue i want to try article marketing

Ok I have only one question, if you take the time and do a really good spin on an article, does this change the outcome? Currently I write one good article per week post to ezine and then when it is up I spin the article and use syndicate kahunna to have them post to their blogs in their network. I have yet to use a broadcasting article service ...any suggestions. I THINK that a good spun article is worth spreading..any thoughts?

I use Article Post Robot and other services to spin the articles, and I rewrite 3 ~4 times for each paragraph of the article and spin the title a lot!

I find it very effective for back links and traffic, and from 1 article I can generate over 100+ 30% uniqueness article and over 300+ 20% unique articles.

I suspect google will give higher point for more unique article and less for less unique article, and I don't think google will dis-count the link of duplicate articles, but a lot less weighted for sure!

I don't really see the point of very mass distribution (over 1000+ sites), however, using Traffic kahuna, Article Post Robot and ArticleMarketingAutomation total up only 300+ different backlinks for each spin article, and I think it works well!

If you think about it, it will be very hard for the search engine to 100% filter the spin article, especially when you spin it on sentences!

The key to successful back links and traffic - Unique AIDA Article with Correct Targeted Keyword (Long tail).

hey Allen quick ques i already have a article submitting sofware that i got long time ago so do you think it is not benficial to use it then since google will not count it for me

I agree on many fronts. But here's my take on this...

Article directories that get any significant traffic at all do not have consumers browsing the directories. The only browsing consumers do is limited to the "related articles" section at the bottom of the article they ended up on FROM A SEARCH ENGINE QUERY.

And these search engine results all point to EZA, ArticlesBase, and the like...not heylookatthesearticles.com or articlesforyourbrowsingpleasure.com.

Let's go outside physical stats and "proof" for a minute. Let's say you, a consumer, are looking for a new laptop, a new puppy, a new desk, a new toaster and some laminate for your living room floor. Plug any non-IM products into the previous sentence.

First of all, almost anyone who is going to buy these things has never even heard of EZA or GoArticles! And when they arrive there from a search query and see that it is an article directory, do you think they want to stick around and read articles? No! In most cases they're going to click the resource link or the back button.

Secondly, (re: consumers) the search engines are often trumped by direct URL entry into the address bar. BestBuy.com, Dell.com, HomeDepot.com, AKC.org, Empire.com.

When a directory gets thousands of hits a day from search engines, which all of the respectable ones do, the traffic from other sources becomes pretty much table scrap.

From communication with dozens of article directory owners every week, they've all told me that their traffic comes from search engines, attributing that small amount of the "table scrap" to syndication, social networking, forums, blogs, etc... That's just the way it is right now.

Ask any established article directory owner where the bulk of their traffic comes from...it's not a big secret.

Yes, there are hits from niche blogs and social sites, but forget about internet marketing for a minute and think about this from an average Joe internet user standpoint...does that traffic consist of real consumers or are they just information seekers?

Oh...and then there are the stats. Unfortunately, none of us are ever going to reveal those, so you either have to take us at our word...or not.

Just keeping it real.

AL