Feedback on starting an Article Submission site?

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The idea is to use good uniqe content and make it a free link service.

Is it a good idea to use wordpress for this service? If so and I use WP and the option of members that register, are there a bigger risk of getting hacked?

Is there too many of this sites today that it will make any difference?

Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You mean you want to create an article directory? Do you have the advertising budget like an "ezinearticles" to launch your article directory? Plus, do you have a solid plan and website layout as to how you will make money with your site?
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    • Profile picture of the author Morten V
      Yes an article directory that people can post articles or a promo for their website including links that will provide backlinks for their site.

      I do not have the budget to ezinearticles no, but I'm willing to try anyway and this will be a free service for everyone. So the only way I can monetize the site is with ads.

      I really want to try to give something back to the community and at the same time test my skills in every way, so this is not about making the big money, it's more like a test project from my point of view.

      I do not have the complete layout for the site, but I have it almost clear in my mind how it will look. The only thing I'm concerned about is how I'm going to make the article tools.

      I recently bought a domain name for a lot of money that I think will be easily rememberd and I hope this will give an advantage. I know it won't be enough just to have the domain name, I would need advertising too of course.

      I just hope the community will accept my offer and help build a solid backlink site.
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      • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
        Originally Posted by MortenV View Post

        Yes an article directory that people can post articles or a promo for their website including links that will provide backlinks for their site.

        I recently bought a domain name for a lot of money that I think will be easily rememberd and I hope this will give an advantage. I know it won't be enough just to have the domain name, I would need advertising too of course.

        I just hope the community will accept my offer and help build a solid backlink site.
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        • Profile picture of the author Morten V
          Originally Posted by johan_malmo View Post

          Hi neighbor (I'm from Sweden), I think it's a good idea if you really want to make it a good article site. I'm using ezinearticles.com and I still get pretty good views to my articles so article sites are not dead at all.

          But I think it will have to be really good!
          Hi there, not often I run into a scandinavian here.

          Yes I know Ezine is still good and so are many other article directories too, but I think I've just decided to run for a blog and use quest bloggers and people that wants to promote their business instead. Running a article directory might just be a dead end since there are so many. Blogs have the more potential and therefore might do it better.

          Originally Posted by tpw View Post

          Truth...
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          Originally Posted by tryinhere View Post

          Well, as I stated I'm not sure anymore. I have concidered a blog too, so thanks for the relpy. You might just have convinced me
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  • Profile picture of the author michleadwing
    bro i think this is agreat idea.i think that helps you to improve your knowledge and money also.i think you don't have any chance to hack.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Morten, mind if I ask you where you from?

    It's not a dumb question - it has to do with your idea, I think you have the right approach, but knowing where you live makes all the difference to my possible answer.

    Edit: Obviously NOT where you live - just the country you live in.
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    • Profile picture of the author Morten V
      Thanks for all the feedback. Now I'm not sure what to do anymore as I more clearly see how this may be too time consuming. So I might be looking to find a more innovative solution.

      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      Edit: Obviously NOT where you live - just the country you live in.
      Im from Norway. May I ask why this is relevant?

      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      Why do you want to do this?
      Mostly of testing my skills in different ways and also make something useful.

      Originally Posted by PatriciaJ

      In my opinion the only way you could make a difference is if you came up with something innovative.
      Yes, I understand. I really want to make it different somehow..

      Originally Posted by PatriciaJ

      The main reason is the sheer amount of time it takes to administer them, you get an unbeliebable amount of garbage submitted. If you want to maintain quality you need to be able to speed read to a certain extent, check every article for plagiarism, have a good enough memory to be able to spot when somebody submits the same article with a different title etc.

      It took me hours every day and my rejection rate was around 80%. Two years ago I decided to vet the authors first and administering is much quicker now.
      I belive it takes up some time yes, that's what I'm afraid of. What do you mean you vet the authors?
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      • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
        Originally Posted by MortenV View Post

        Im from Norway. May I ask why this is relevant?
        Sure can. And I can answer: how many Press Release sites you can find in Norway? I mean, Norwegian websites, written in norwegian.
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        • Profile picture of the author tantivy
          even though you have decided not to pursue this planned idea of yours, I still say go for it. It's your idea, it's your take and reading in this online business. Sure there's a lot of hardwork you have to do, it is expected. Success or failure in this line of business depends on you. Yes, Panda update slapped EZA, but EZA is still going strong with its adaptation to the tweaks in algorithm of Google. Just see the rigorous editorial policies they implemented since then. Many also still see and patronize other article directories, especially those that have 'do follow' links. So article marketing is not dead.

          Good luck!
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          • Profile picture of the author tantivy
            i guess i read it wrong... i thought you are abandoning your idea.. nevertheless my previous post sums up my say on this.
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      • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
        Originally Posted by MortenV View Post


        I belive it takes up some time yes, that's what I'm afraid of. What do you mean you vet the authors?
        New authors have to email me with a copy of their proposed first submission and the website links. If the quality is good and the article isn't plagiarised I upgrade their account to author from subscriber - this is the Wordpress directory - then they can submit articles. The vast majority who sign up never email me so the number of accepted authors is quite low and there are only a handful of submissions every day to check. Suits me fine and frees my time up for more lucrative projects.

        That's the general subject directory. My travel niche directory is much easier to administer and the AF Pro script cuts out a lot of the spam.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    There are thousands of dead and dying article directories out there. Article directories were stylish a few years ago and have been dying a slow but steady death ever since the big Google slap that kicked eZine Articles and others in the teeth. Why do you want to do this?
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  • Profile picture of the author successproducts
    I would say go for your dream. Do you know when Starbuck first started in the US we already have Gloria coffee but he pushed through any how? He had to ask about 100+ banks before one said yes. Of course now he is surpassing Gloria coffee and have many shops.

    It's just because articles directories like ezine articles got slapped it doesn't mean articles are not in style any more. Great articles of course are always in style because why not? If you really care about your reader and write something amazing why can't you get links and visitors as well?

    But don't fall into the trap of small mindedness as me before now LOL. Thinking only about making money will trap you into doing things too fast and not doing the job well enough-- think first how to give and all things will fall into place. I guess that is why funnel sales technique is so alluring ... give out free report is so alluring .. everybody loves free stuffs.
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  • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
    Originally Posted by MortenV View Post

    The idea is to use good uniqe content
    You would be lucky to get good unique content unless you could offer something worth authors submitting their content to your site alone when they are better off placing it on their sites first.

    Originally Posted by MortenV View Post

    and make it a free link service.
    Article directory links don't have that high a value nowadays

    Originally Posted by MortenV View Post

    Is it a good idea to use wordpress for this service? If so and I use WP and the option of members that register, are there a bigger risk of getting hacked?
    Wordpress is good for getting traffic, but my WP directory, even though relatively small took up too much of the shared server resources and is slow. I got a VPS and last week 15 of my blogs on that account were hacked despite me taking security measures. Fortunately Hostgator came to the rescue. Article Dashboard directories get hacked into too.

    Originally Posted by MortenV View Post

    Is there too many of this sites today that it will make any difference?

    Thanks.
    There probably are too many. An awful lot stop getting updated and eventually vanish because they are not as easy to make money with as some would have you believe. In my opinion the only way you could make a difference is if you came up with something innovative.

    I've been running 2 article directories for 4 years now and I would definately not recommend starting one for several reasons.

    The main reason is the sheer amount of time it takes to administer them, you get an unbeliebable amount of garbage submitted. If you want to maintain quality you need to be able to speed read to a certain extent, check every article for plagiarism, have a good enough memory to be able to spot when somebody submits the same article with a different title etc.

    It took me hours every day and my rejection rate was around 80%. Two years ago I decided to vet the authors first and administering is much quicker now
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  • Profile picture of the author mrozlat
    If you have the right strategy, it should not be a problem
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    Personally I wouldn't bother. This is a highly saturated market unless you can carve a specific niche i.e. On a very targeted subject area.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by MortenV View Post

    Feedback on starting an Article Submission site?
    Do you really mean an "article submission site", or an "article directory"?

    (You do realise that they're two different things, right?).

    Originally Posted by MortenV View Post

    The idea is to use good uniqe content and make it a free link service.
    No article directory requires unique content. Why would authors be willing to provide previously unpublished content to an article directory? :confused:

    I'm wondering if this thread may be helpful to you, Morten: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html
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    • Profile picture of the author Morten V
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      Sure can. And I can answer: how many Press Release sites you can find in Norway? I mean, Norwegian websites, written in norwegian.
      Well, a few. Again the market is extremly small compared to US or international.

      Originally Posted by PatriciaJ View Post

      New authors have to email me with a copy of their proposed first submission and the website links. If the quality is good and the article isn't plagiarised I upgrade their account to author from subscriber - this is the Wordpress directory - then they can submit articles. The vast majority who sign up never email me so the number of accepted authors is quite low and there are only a handful of submissions every day to check. Suits me fine and frees my time up for more lucrative projects.

      That's the general subject directory. My travel niche directory is much easier to administer and the AF Pro script cuts out a lot of the spam.
      Ok, thanks. What's the AF Pro?

      Originally Posted by Paid Surveys View Post

      Personally I wouldn't bother. This is a highly saturated market unless you can carve a specific niche i.e. On a very targeted subject area.
      I'm still considering what to do with it, so I'll see.

      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Do you really mean an "article submission site", or an "article directory"?

      (You do realise that they're two different things, right?).
      Now I do

      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      No article directory requires unique content. Why would authors be willing to provide previously unpublished content to an article directory? :confused:

      I'm wondering if this thread may be helpful to you, Morten: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html
      I understand the uniqe content will be hard to obtain, so that's not a goal anymore. I will take a look at that thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Ok doki then

    Honestly, and running a Press Release site myself, I know for sure what it does for my "business" and the wide array of interactions (present and future) with new customers.

    But you're the boss
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  • Profile picture of the author theimdude
    Hey,

    I am busy building a private article directory network and use wordpress for it. I customized a free theme and this is the end result Article Reading Centre

    The theme is articleless with a article plugin and it works great.

    Best with your venture and ignore the neg comments as if you do it well you will be rewarded
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    • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
      Originally Posted by MortenV View Post


      Ok, thanks. What's the AF Pro?
      Article Friendly Pro, but I'm telling porkies there. Upgraded from that to Article Friendly Ultimate a few months ago.

      Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

      Hey,

      I am busy building a private article directory network and use wordpress for it. I customized a free theme and this is the end result Article Reading Centre

      The theme is articleless with a article plugin and it works great.

      Best with your venture and ignore the neg comments as if you do it well you will be rewarded
      I tried that theme and plugin last year. A Wordpress upgrade took the site down and my host had to help me sort it out, they blamed the plugin. I now use a paid for plugin which gets updated regularly and offers a bit more security. The theme itself is on thousands of sites and I would recommend some customisation.

      Neg comments come from experience and a wise person learns and takes more from other people's experience than optimism. I am not normally a negative person but I know how hard it is to run an article directory once the freshness has worn off.

      MortenV - If you go ahead I would suggest a niche directory, or even build a community around a niche that you are interested in with content sharing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Morten V
        Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

        Hey,

        I am busy building a private article directory network and use wordpress for it. I customized a free theme and this is the end result Article Reading Centre

        The theme is articleless with a article plugin and it works great.

        Best with your venture and ignore the neg comments as if you do it well you will be rewarded
        Nice one, it looks good.

        Originally Posted by PatriciaJ View Post

        I tried that theme and plugin last year. A Wordpress upgrade took the site down and my host had to help me sort it out, they blamed the plugin. I now use a paid for plugin which gets updated regularly and offers a bit more security. The theme itself is on thousands of sites and I would recommend some customisation.

        Neg comments come from experience and a wise person learns and takes more from other people's experience than optimism. I am not normally a negative person but I know how hard it is to run an article directory once the freshness has worn off.

        MortenV - If you go ahead I would suggest a niche directory, or even build a community around a niche that you are interested in with content sharing.
        Will take a look on that plugin.

        Yes I understand, thanks. Not sure if I want to base it on a niche because of the limits it brings.
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  • Profile picture of the author theimdude
    Here is the same theme used by somebody else as you get it unmodified articles
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  • Profile picture of the author johan_malmo
    Hi neighbor (I'm from Sweden), I think it's a good idea if you really want to make it a good article site. I'm using ezinearticles.com and I still get pretty good views to my articles so article sites are not dead at all.

    But I think it will have to be really good!
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Originally Posted by MortenV View Post

    The idea is to use good uniqe content and make it a free link service.

    Is it a good idea to use wordpress for this service? If so and I use WP and the option of members that register, are there a bigger risk of getting hacked?

    Is there too many of this sites today that it will make any difference?

    Thanks.





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    • Profile picture of the author Morten V
      Originally Posted by Warrior Machine View Post

      Have a unique outline and solid backlink. Use long tail keywords so that you also get a good SEO. Using blog is also a good idea but you stick with your plan.
      You mean I should stick to an Article Directory and not base it on a blog with guest blogging?
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