Is this effective organisation for my website?

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I currently am developing a language related website. It will teach people how to learn languages by way of free articles. It will be multiple languages so the 'lessons' will be dedicated to individual languages. I do not want a new domain for each language as I am aiming for branding as I have a number of physical products launching soon. I will be using WordPress for this. Which option should I use?

1. Single Blog. A mish mash of information which may make it hard for users to find exactly what they want.

2. Individual blogs located at these domains:

www.mydomain.com/languagename

I then have a splash page on the main domain with links to each seperate blog.

I am guessing the second option is the best option as it will be much easier to SEO, but how would you go about it?
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmilligan
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    You do realise that it will take a lot of work ot teach people a language through articles?

    But it is a pretty good idea though.

    The www.yourdomain.com/languagename seems like it looks better, plus people will/should be able to find all the languages sections on your blog homepage anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author rooze
    Personally I'd go with option 3, which is: www.languagename.yourdomain.com

    Since you're going to want to get each site listed in its local search engine (Like google.de for example) it's going to be easier to have multiple regional sites, rather than one site covering all regions. Option 3 is exactly the same from a design and administrative perspective as your option 2, using WPMU set for sub-domains instead of sub-directories.
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    • Profile picture of the author RyanGillam
      Originally Posted by ryanmilligan View Post

      You do realise that it will take a lot of work ot teach people a language through articles?
      Indeed, although whilst it will have a lot of articles about each language the main goal of the site would be to sell the physical products under the brand, they would never learn the whole language through the website by a long shot. not even a small bit of it.


      Originally Posted by rooze View Post

      Personally I'd go with option 3, which is: www.languagename.yourdomain.com

      Since you're going to want to get each site listed in its local search engine (Like google.de for example) it's going to be easier to have multiple regional sites, rather than one site covering all regions. Option 3 is exactly the same from a design and administrative perspective as your option 2, using WPMU set for sub-domains instead of sub-directories.
      Many thanks! I will look into this. It was originally going to be one of my suggestions, no idea why i left it out though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Categories in WP are exactly for what you are asking...

    example.com/languages/spanish/
    example.com/languages/tagalog/
    example.com/languages/sanskrit/

    example.com = domain
    languages = category base (see details on your Permalinks page in wp-admin > Settings)
    sanskrit = category name/slug

    Which means your posts (articles) would be like:
    example.com/languages/sanskrit/first-article-here

    Another way to do it is using Pages and sub-Pages in parent/child hierarchy... but be aware Pages don't send ping about new and updated content, don't have feeds etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author RyanGillam
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      Categories in WP are exactly for what you are asking...

      example.com/languages/spanish/
      example.com/languages/tagalog/
      example.com/languages/sanskrit/

      example.com = domain
      languages = category base (see details on your Permalinks page in wp-admin > Settings)
      sanskrit = category name/slug

      Which means your posts (articles) would be like:
      example.com/languages/sanskrit/first-article-here

      Another way to do it is using Pages and sub-Pages in parent/child hierarchy... but be aware Pages don't send ping about new and updated content, don't have feeds etc.
      Wouldn't I then have the problem of the database being shared by all these different languages? I am estimating around 10 different articles a day over 3-4 different languages, and if these all shared the wordpress installation I can imagine to homepage becoming very cluttered with information not relevant to everybody.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    You are mixing unrelated things, sorry.

    No, the database doesn't care if it's shared by different categories. And a proper hosting package can handle several thousands posts...

    Your plan is nonsense (10x4=40 articles per day): that's not the organic growth of a website... that's content spam. But it's your site, you decide.

    Finally, what is in the database and what will be displayed on your homepage - are totally unrelated. Display = theme/design/layout.
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    • Profile picture of the author RyanGillam
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      Your plan is nonsense (10x4=40 articles per day): that's not the organic growth of a website... that's content spam. But it's your site, you decide.
      Sorry, I should have been more clear. There would be just 10 articles posted a day (100% Unique) over the 4 languages, as opposed to 40 a day! That would just....well that would burn me out.

      I'll take a look at your idea. Many thanks for the suggestion!
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  • Profile picture of the author rooze
    If you go down the route suggested by Istvan above you'll hit a couple hurdles. It's certainly doable and the simplest option but I'd give it some thought before you jump in.
    For example, if you're using HTML/Text widgets, then you're going to need to use a plugin to control which pages they appear on. So you don't want your German widget to appear on your Spanish language page. There's a plugin called 'widget logic' to help you with that.
    Next, you may want to have a specific language somewhere on the actual theme/template. So you'd need to create a theme for each language then use a theme switcher plugin for all the pages. That's a pain in the rear. You assign a theme to a specific page but I don't think you can assign one to a specific category.
    Then of course there are little details like footer texts, and any other language specific texts which you'd want to keep organized somehow.

    But my issue would be with search engines and how they'd handle your multilingual site. I think breaking the content up over sub-domains will give you a better platform in terms of organization and SE visibility. But that's certainly a little more complex, and as Istvan rightly says, WP has categories to help you manage your content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Well, with what rooze is saying we are getting into the "assuming" territory...

    Just because it is a language-learning site... it doesn't necessarily mean it requires theme(s) displayed in multiple languages. Trust me, as a former language teacher I know what I am talking about

    The content of different articles may or may not be entirely in a foreign language (depending on the language acquisition method suggested by the site) but the overall navigation should be in the language of the main target group: English?
    Hint: if the site is publishing articles for beginner students of Japanese and the menu suddenly switches into Japanese on the Japanese lesson Pages/posts/category - that would drive crazy every would-be student

    It will teach people how to learn languages
    That quote from the OP doesn't really tells me there would be lessons in different languages. There will only be lessons/articles ABOUT how to learn languages... and a later post suggests the OP will be writing the articles (presumably, in English) - so no need for over-complicating it with multilingual issues.
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    • Profile picture of the author rooze
      Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

      Well, with what rooze is saying we are getting into the "assuming" territory...
      I'm not assuming anything. The OP will have a clear spec for what he wants to achieve. I'm giving him a few things to consider from a logistics perspective, that's all. He'll take away what he needs and discard the rest.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanGillam
    All articles/theme will be in English. There may be the odd article in another language, however nothing too major.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    I think this is a great idea, but might work better as a companion for people who are already in the process of learning whatever language they are interested. Like Ryan said, it will be very difficult to teach (and learn) a language through articles alone.

    Perhaps offering videos would work in addition to the articles as well? I don't know enough about teaching language to go into detail about these suggestions, this is just my opinion as a consumer and as a person who loves language.
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