Warrior's Names Used On Review Site

18 years ago

I think JT is going to be a pissed off - there are several 'testimonials' with his name and all contradictory.

How could this idiot think they were going to get away with this?

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ExRat 18 years ago

Hi Iain,

Even though they haven't used photos, it does make me think about a recent thread about keeping your identity private on warrior/forums.

As you can see, I choose to be open about who I am but this does make me think.

For example, I haven't given a testimonial in a few years. After giving out a handful when I first started to people who deserved them, I decided I didn't like to do it at all because after a few they become meaningless and I don't like to give the impression i can be 'bought' (I can't ), therefore you don't see my name attached as testimonials to any WSOs or hardly any products out there (unless I have unknowingly been used.)

So obviously, it would peeve me to see my name being dragged through the mud in this way - and I WOULD hit them hard in whatever way I could. I have plenty of time and resources available to protect my 'brand'.

Hi Thomas,

Yes I saw that one too. That's what I mean - this person seems to have a grudge and has got their kicks by deliberately using insulting comments in their fake testimonials - which is why they need to be hunted down like a 'common pygmy' (Frank Drebben reference).
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Thomas

18 years ago

JT was, "... struggling to make $30/day before buying this..."

Sorry to hear things have gotton so bad!

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Dan Grossman

18 years ago

Did he use their website URLs or photos as well? There are thousands of John Taylors, even if he made the review up.

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George Wright 18 years ago

He says, "from the Warrior forum" with the names attached. Steven W. Bev C and lots more. (he spells out the entire name. Mike F gives a rave review for "Tattoo me now."

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Bev Clement

18 years ago

He had John making just $5 a day, and there is a review from Paul Myers and Mike F as well.

Dan he uses names of people and says they are from the Warrior Forum. I don't know more than one John T on the warrior forum.

I am quoted giving a review of 3 products that I know nothing about. Not the reviews but the products themself.

The warriors names that are mentioned all have either warrior forum or from the warrior forum review.

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ExRat

18 years ago

Hi Dan,

One thing that I always try to help people to understand is that the two most powerful tools are right in front of you - one is the internet browser that you use and the other is the search box within it.

I have been using this forum for a few years now and have learnt much from here, but I always learn the most by using those two tools and also by actually testing things rather than just taking what I see on the forum as gospel - so it's an ingrained habit of mine to be really 'nosey' because I learn the most from being like that.

Did he use their website URLs or photos as well? There are thousands of John Taylors, even if he made the review up.

I don't mean to pick on you, but your post is a good example - it would be much more enlightening for you to take a quick peek at the url I provided for you and see for yourself than to ask a question here.

Please don't take this as a dig - I'm simply trying to help as many warriors as possible succeed by pounding into them to use their browser and use google to be VERY nosey. That is how I found the site during the course of my work

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Stanley Tang

18 years ago

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you Bev for letting me know this. Don't know who this ****** is but I've emailed him (using the Whois guard email - which should redirect to his email) and hope he removes my name, along with the other warriors.

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milan

18 years ago

Well, the whole site seems to be removed already.

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ExRat

18 years ago

Hi Milan,

Well, the whole site seems to be removed already.

Bingo!

Time to celebrate with a hearty breakfast...

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Dan Grossman 18 years ago

Guess someone had their lawyer scare the crap outta him fast
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- Stanley Tang 18 years ago
  
  You mean only the homepage was removed?
  
  Everything is still there:
  
  http://www.reviewselite.com/reviews/...ow-review.html
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  Sirius Lin 18 years ago
  
  Nope, looks like those are gone too, Stanley.
  
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  Stanley Tang 18 years ago
  
  Cool. He just removed them. Thank god.
  
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milan

18 years ago

Originally Posted by ExRat

Hi Milan,

Bingo!

Time to celebrate with a hearty breakfast...

Have a nice breakfast Roger!

Since this thread was so efficient I thought to piggyback on it:

Yesterday our infamous spammer "Mike Derosa" ("Wilhelm Chase")
promoted an ebook by Warrior James Allen. The ebook is about
Japanese marketing. Can anybody contact James Allen and suggest
he gives these commissions to some charity instead to this crook.

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Steven Wagenheim

18 years ago

Darn, I wanted to read all the BS so I could be steamed enough to send him
a threatening email from my cousin Vinnie who likes to break kneecaps.

Oh well, will have to wait for the next scumbag to have my fun.

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John Taylor 18 years ago

Roger,

Thanks.

It's not the first time my name has been taken in vain and
it certainly won't be the last. But it's very reassuring to
know that my friends and fellow warriors are looking out for
me.

I really appreciate your intervention.

John
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- ExRat 18 years ago
  
  Hi John,
  
  Glad to be able to help. It was a joint international effort - kind of a fish n' chips/leek chow mein combination...
  
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  Martin Luxton 18 years ago
  
  Interpol Bev's on the case - now this guy's goose is really cooked
  
  Part of Bev's 'review'
  "I don't spend much actual time on my internet business and don't really make anything..."
  
  So now we know - it's Rob who does all the work.
  
  You think the guy (gal?) at least could have done some research, used his brain and made the reviews more flattering.
  
  Before I bought this product I was only earning $20,000 a day but now I'M A GURU!!!
  
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  Scott Ames 18 years ago
  
  He/she must be reading this forum. As soon as Roger mentioned it the home page was gone. Then Stanley found inner pages still active, posted them, poof they were gone too. hummmmm
  
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Jared Alberghini

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Darn, I wanted to read all the BS so I could be steamed enough to send him
a threatening email from my cousin Vinnie who likes to break kneecaps.

Oh well, will have to wait for the next scumbag to have my fun.

Hey Steven,

You can still see some of the content using the CACHED link, at the end of the descriptions in google: reviewselite - Google Search

Apparently Steven, you really like the Reverse Phone thing:

"I have tried a few different phone lookup services... RPD [Reverse Phone Detective] is probably the best one, although there are other good one's out there. I think their interface could be easier to use in the members area. Other than that, still a very good service.

-- Steve Wagenheim

See that here:
Reverse Phone Detective Review

here are the others I found:

Cached homepage:
Clickbank Product Reviews, Reports, Scams And Hoaxes - Reviewing The Reviewers

Google Nemesis Review

How To Break 80 Review

Doubling Stocks Review

Profit Lance Review

Fat Loss 4 Idiots Review

RegCure Review

Thought you all would get a kick out of what you gave for reviews...lol

- Jared

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Michael Oksa 18 years ago

If these are ClickBank products, wouldn't this go against their TOS?

I still think purposely trying to destroy our reputations, and making us look like struggling idiots is the biggest strike. That is why they need to be gone after, and gone after hard.

Let me know if there is anything I can do.

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Steven Wagenheim

18 years ago

Originally Posted by webdesignhq

Hey Steven,

You can still see some of the content using the CACHED link, at the end of the descriptions in google: reviewselite - Google Search

Apparently Steven, you really like the Reverse Phone thing:

"I have tried a few different phone lookup services... RPD [Reverse Phone Detective] is probably the best one, although there are other good one's out there. I think their interface could be easier to use in the members area. Other than that, still a very good service.

-- Steve Wagenheim

See that here:
Reverse Phone Detective Review

here are the others I found:

Cached homepage:
Clickbank Product Reviews, Reports, Scams And Hoaxes - Reviewing The Reviewers

Google Nemesis Review

How To Break 80 Review

Doubling Stocks Review

Profit Lance Review

Fat Loss 4 Idiots Review

RegCure Review

Thought you all would get a kick out of what you gave for reviews...lol

- Jared

I don't even know what RPD is. (okay, don't laugh at me. I told you I was
a techno dunce.)

I don't even want to know what I said in these testimonials. I might be
tempted to hunt this person down and rip their heart out through their
throat.

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Michael Oksa

18 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I don't even know what RPD is. (okay, don't laugh at me. I told you I was
a techno dunce.)

I don't even want to know what I said in these testimonials. I might be
tempted to hunt this person down and rip their heart out through their
throat.

Hi Steven,

An RPD is a reverse phone directory. That's where you enter a phone number to see who it belongs to.

Also, I have seen you speak your mind, but I don't ever recall you mentioning a physical act. I am not a violent person, but stuff like this is really asking for it.

~Michael

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Dan Grossman 18 years ago

What if it's just some 13 year old kid who thought he was being funny? As much as you feel hurt by this, threatening to break his knee caps and rip his heart out are a little extreme. If he backed down that fast that the site disappeared in minutes, he's probably scared to s**t already.
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- Kay King 18 years ago
  
  he's probably scared to s**t already.
  
  Good, maybe he'll learn a lesson.
  
  Doesn't matter if he's 13 or 30 - what he did was seriously wrong and it's important he understand that.
  
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- ExRat 18 years ago
  
  Hi all,
  
  I got a reply from the person I mentioned above - I am a member of their membership site and so is this mystery person.
  
  It was (kind of) via this membership site that I found the review site, although I didn't need to be a member to do it. I was doing some usual exrat due diligence research and followed a link from here to somewhere else that allowed me to investigate the membership site I was thinking of joining. (Phew, that was a mouthful).
  
  The membership site owner has removed this review site 'from their system' (it's not actually IN the system as such) and is looking closely at everything else the person has done within the site.
  
  I touched upon the fact that it would be helpful for us to know who it was, but also that I understood that the membership site's privacy policy would probably not allow them to reveal it.
  
  The person didn't address this therefore I presume I am correct about the privacy issue.
  
  Of course, if the person reads this and comes back to me with any more help then I will offer whatever help I can.
  
  Sorry Dan, but with respect, I don't see the point of speculating about the age or anything else about the perpetrator. At the same time I don't advise physical violence in order to exact revenge on anyone (note the word 'advise').
  
  My opinion is that - 'if you play with fire, you might get your fingers burnt.' It annoys me a little when people come into a business environment (obviously an environment that connects directly to the livelihoods of big proper adults ) and then try and excuse their actions (or others try and excuse them) based on their age, or anything else.
  
  I've seen this a lot online, particularly in my early days on ebay. I remember the time username Jason06301989 tried to tell me he was the founder of ebay....
  
  Whoever it was did the right thing earlier today by pulling it down.
  
  The best lesson to learn here is to be vigilant, use that damn google thingy to keep an eye on things out there, take action once you find something and then tell Bev...
  
  ExRat the sniffer dog sticking his nose into everything he probably shouldn't
  
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18 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I don't even know what RPD is. (okay, don't laugh at me. I told you I was
a techno dunce.)

I don't even want to know what I said in these testimonials. I might be
tempted to hunt this person down and rip their heart out through their
throat.

Your not a techno dunce anymore Steven!!!
You are a Joomla pro I bet now:

"I know nothing about technical stuff or programming, but after purcasing the "Ready Made Joomla" package I have everything I need to use and learn Joomla properly. The templates are very easy to use. Overall, highly recommended."

-- Steve Wxxxxxxxm (warrior forum)

EDIT: lol put X's in your last name Steven haha that stupid thing would probably be listed in the search engines somewhere...

But.... This one is funny as hell too...

"I like the forced money website, it really helps me with my struggling internet business. I hardly made anything online before I started using the website included with Forced Money, and now I make some decent clickbank commissions. Overall I would certainly recommend this product.

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Jared Alberghini 18 years ago

I feel bad for this guy... he really has some beef with people for some reason, but some of those reviews were pretty funny...

"Definitely recommended. I make very little money online, but I recently brought this and really hope it helps me out. The private members area has quite a lot of stuff and I will probably need all the help I can get."

-- Craig Desorcy (warrior forum review section)
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18 years ago

Originally Posted by milan

Yesterday our infamous spammer "Mike Derosa" ("Wilhelm Chase") promoted an ebook by Warrior James Allen. The ebook is about Japanese marketing. Can anybody contact James Allen and suggest he gives these commissions to some charity instead to this crook.

Might provide an opportunity to identify him...

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Richard Tunnah 18 years ago

Originally Posted by milan

Well, the whole site seems to be removed already.

Which Duffus decides to p*** off some major online players. Not a great career move!

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- zerofill 18 years ago
  
  Truthfully...the thing is wrong...but I am looking at the cached pages...and I can't help but laugh at some of the shit I see there that I know the people who's names are listed did not say lol. Just from reading posts here...you know they wouldn't have said the shit on those pages...
  
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18 years ago

Originally Posted by Stanley Tang

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you Bev for letting me know this. Don't know who this ****** is but I've emailed him (using the Whois guard email - which should redirect to his email) and hope he removes my name, along with the other warriors.

Hi Stanley,

Sorry to hear about that. Hope he will respond soon.

Btw, How can we get the Whois guard email?

Cheers,
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Michael Oksa

18 years ago

You know what really gets me mad is that the $%(#*$ misspelled my last name.

I hope he gets everything that's coming to him, and more.

What is really funny is that the first one that has my name in it suggests I had a chance to read Steven's review before I made mine. Who writes reviews like that.

Plus, he was trying to make us all look pathetic. If it can be proven he's a Warrior then he needs to be outed immediately.

Thanks Bev for sending me a personal email on this.

Personally I think he can be held for libel(?) for purposefully trying to damage our reputations. Make the S.O.B. pay.

~Michael O-K-S-A

p.s. Steven, sorry to hear your business is struggling.

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Banned 18 years ago

Hi,

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mmurtha

18 years ago

Originally Posted by ExRat

Hi,

Just doing some research and I found some of my warrior friends names used on a review site for testimonials that I have no doubt that they didn't give.

I've checked with one warrior and they have confirmed that they did not provide these testimonials.

Nothing new here, there are scumbag name scrapers all over the place but I figure that education, and spreading information is a good way to fight these problems.

The site is -

reviews***elite dotcom (remove the three asterixes)

Put the string below into google if you want to find if your name is mentioned there - (try your warrior ID and your name - they are mainly using peoples' names)

YOURNAME site:reviews***elite dotcom

(remove the three asterixes again and of course change dotcom to .com)

There are some pretty bad/misleading testimonials on there attached to some prestigious warriors' names.

Waggers
Craig D
JT

You are all on there.

The domain has whoisguard and they are using the clickbank affiliate ID 'awesomex'

I imagine an email to their host, or to clickbank, or the registrar might be the best course to give them some trouble?

HTH

Edit - I have another 'lead' to follow based on where I found this site from. I will update if I get any more help from my 'investigations'.

Hi Roger,

Oh man, that stinks! I believe people will do almost anything as long as they don't get caught.

Btw, very nice of you to let everyone else know ... good going on that one!

Mary

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Greg Cooksley

18 years ago

Hey Roger,

Just picked up on this thread....

Thanks for your diligent effort in tracking down these scumbags...

Between Bev and yourself, you guys are providing some great policing...

Good work..

Regards

Greg

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Paul Myers

18 years ago

Hmmm. Claims to be one Jennifer Hawkins (jenniferhawkins@comcast.net), located in Australia. Does Comcast operate in Oz?

If not, or if the whois info listing the address is provably wrong, there might be something more ... permanent ... that can be done about this site.

I'd really like to know who this one is.

Paul

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18 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Hmmm. Claims to be one Jennifer Hawkins (jenniferhawkins@comcast.net), located in Australia. Does Comcast operate in Oz?

If not, or if the whois info listing the address is provably wrong, there might be something more ... permanent ... that can be done about this site.

I'd really like to know who this one is.

Paul

Jennifer Hawkins is an Australian and former Miss World -

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18 years ago

Originally Posted by James Schramko

Jennifer Hawkins is an Australian and former Miss World -

Hahah nice James

lol seems like a pretty stupid thing to do really

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WritingMadwoman

18 years ago

Glad you guys got this taken care of, it's frightening to think what could be done to a person's reputation with shady tactics like this!

If you don't already do this, you might consider setting up a Google alert for your full name (use quotes so you don't get thousands of alerts for anyone with a matching first name or last name, etc.), also your products names, blogs, websites, URLs, or your WF name. You'll get an email anytime someone uses any of them online.

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Wendy

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18 years ago

This is really good.

Originally Posted by WritingMadwoman

Glad you guys got this taken care of, it's frightening to think what could be done to a person's reputation with shady tactics like this!

If you don't already do this, you might consider setting up a Google alert for your full name (use quotes so you don't get thousands of alerts for anyone with a matching first name or last name, etc.), also your products names, blogs, websites, URLs, or your WF name. You'll get an email anytime someone uses any of them online.

Google Alerts

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threeg5

18 years ago

I wonder if someone could be in trouble for something like this?
It could be under Forgery. Conspiracy to commit fraud. Identity theft.
I am sure there are many more things that this good be illegal about.
I think I may be mad about this, and as far as the people who may ask "but what if it is driving traffic to your site?" :confused: Well, to be honest, I do not know. It would depend on the traffic, but I believe that I would still inquire about it and maybe ask for some sort of change so as to tweak it for my benefit.

I don't know really, but I do understand how someone could be upset about this.

Just a thought.

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Thomas Wilkinson

18 years ago

and Jennifer's email is??? Just kidding!

Google alerts works well. I use it for all my names.
What did I jus' say? LOL, Its 2:15 in the morning.
Gettin' a little goofy here.

T.W.

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Allen Graves

18 years ago

It is much easier and safer to simply ask people to try your product. If it's good, they certainly do not mind giving you a legal tender testimonial!!!

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sweetanahita

18 years ago

yeah pretty much... :p

although thanks for the "Google Alert" scenario. :p

I am new here, but I always hate dirty scammers or imposters....!! :p

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ExRat 18 years ago

Hi,

Old thread resurrected. I look so young in my avatar
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  Originally Posted by ExRat
  
  Hi,
  
  Old thread resurrected. I look so young in my avatar
  
  How much did you have to pay to get this thread with your mugshot back on the first page? :p And what's your definition of young?
  
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  Hi AG,
  
  How much did you have to pay to get this thread with your mugshot back on the first page?
  
  Too much. :p
  
  And what's your definition of young?
  
  Blokes are still young when they wake up with 'bed-head' and they can just go out and get complimented on their trendy,messed-up-look hair-style. If I try that, people hand me charitable donations and tell me to go and get a bite to eat.
  
  Girls are still young when life hasn't become one long slog of faked o*****s.
  
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