Do you use same article on your site and article directories

No don't re-publish content already on your site, this is just bad idea unless you spin it and change it around

Of course you use the ORIGINAL article in its original form on your site first, then submission to directories.

Publish the article on your site first and make sure it gets indexed before submitting it to directories.

This topic has been widely discussed. Check Alexa Smith's profile and posts. You'll gain an invaluable source of knowledge from reading how she does article marketing and syndication.

No I don't. You don't want to be hit with a duplicate content penalty. Either use new content or spin the content to a high degree.

I repeat do not post the same article somewhere else

Duplicate content - Webmaster Tools Help read the "syndicate carefully" part, in other words some article sites got much higher page rank or domain value than yours, so there's a chance that they can outrank you with your own content

I wouldn't submit the same articles on my site to a directory. One reason is that most directories wouldn't allow it and secondly, when you're linking over to the page, your readers are going to see the same article that they've just read when they click through.

For fast writing, I'd take the keyword phrase I want to target.

For examples sake,

Successful Tips For Beating Depression.

I'd open up several tabs for research.

First tip I'd want to include is how a disruptive sleeping pattern affects depression. So that's the first one I'd want to include.

Through personal experience I know switching to decaff coffee at night helps. Others might not drink coffee and something which could help them is having more exercise during the day.

I get that from reading the first sentence of an article I pulled up mentioning how sleeping patterns contribute to it.

So that in itself could be one article.

Beat Depression By Switching To Coffee Which Is Good For You

Then I'd go on to talk about how you can still enjoy a cup of coffee at night, without the sleep disruption. Since I know about it, it wouldn't take me long to put an article together for that.

The next article could be something along the lines of

Using Interesting Things To Help With Depression

Within that article I might list some hobbies or activities to keep folks busy. Whether that be sudoku puzzles to occupy the mind or re-arranging a room to keep them busy, creating a more relaxing environment, if they've perhaps let the house go a bit.

That's from another tab opened there, which has "developing interests", as a tip. For depression that's hard for some people. So I'd talk about doing stuff even if they don't find it interesting to do.

Maybe linking to a blog post about "Beating Depression By Trial and Error.

Might not be fun, but at the end of doing housework, they'll see the results and feel better for it. Plus be more tired.

That sort of ties in with the first article that talks about switching to decaff coffee for a better nights sleep.

It starts with an outline of who your audience is. It's hard to go into a niche, looking to monetize it, if you don't know what your visitors are looking for.

I don't know your niche, so I just used the depression one, to show an example of how I would go about the writing for a blog and putting articles together to market it.

Not everyone writes super fast. If you know a topic, it's a lot easier. If you're having to research from scratch, then using several tabs in your browser for banking different ideas, is what I'd advise.

I do that by opening a notepad document, reading the content on different websites and jotting down some ideas and/or tips to include in an article. Then write it from scratch. You'll probably surprise yourself at how much you can get written, when you've got your ideas generated before you type a word.

Hope that helps
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Nope. I spin the crap out of that thing until it is unrecognizable. The last thing I want is a duplicate content penalty messing up the sweet, sweet PR6 backlinks EZA gives me.*

*None of the above is true. I put the same article, receive no negative effects from having it syndicated. EZA has never given me a good backlink, I don't expect it to.

I personally don't publish my original content to article directories. But if you do, make sure it was already indexed before submitting it to article directories.

Yes. Every day. Like almost all professional article marketers who are actually making a living from it.

There's not much point (by comparison) in submitting to an article directory something that you haven't first published on your own site.

In this fine thread, you'll see a whole succession of people making a living through article marketing explaining all their shared reasons for always doing this: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

The people who don't do this, and who recommend not doing it, comprise three main groups ...

(i) People who don't quite appreciate the difference between "duplicate content" and "syndicated content" (it's explained in this post: Article Marketers – Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All - Internet Marketing and Publishing )

(ii) People who don't quite understand the purpose that article directories serve, and how to use them (it's explained in this post: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5068872 )

(iii) People who have a financial incentive of their own (often involving selling software and/or services) in perpetuating various misunderstandings about article marketing which are actually from the Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing (there's more about that here and here ).

In other words, this is one of those subjects, raised here frequently, on which there are two completely different consensuses of opinion.

One (which I've set out above, with links and references which lead to further, detailed explanations, quotations from Google, and so on) is the consensus of opinion among people who have built their businesses this way and are making a living from it.

The other is just the consensus of opinion among those rather less well informed, who habitually confuse "duplicate" with "syndicated", and/or confuse "unique" with "original", and/or confuse "article marketing" with "article directory marketing", and/or all sorts of other myths and misunderstandings, of which many are repeated all over the place - including here, and including in this thread. :rolleyes: :p

Of course, we all have a choice by whom we want to be guided.

This is completely wrong and badly misguided advice.

If you actually read the threads and posts linked to above, Fadiz, rather than simply repeating what you've always believed, you'll have the opportunity to learn something, rather than spreading misinformation. Only a suggestion ...

About.com is not an article directory.

"What an article directory is" is explained here.

I prefer to write a good content article for my blog, then create at least 2 new articles on the same topic and include a link on the signature that goes directly to the blog article.

An example for the blog article: How to get rid of spiders with products you already have in your home.

Then write articles for the directories as:
How to tell if you have plague of spiders in your home
Harmful effects of spider bites

This articles creates an itchy on your prospect that must be relief immediately with your blog article, and generates more targeted traffic.

Posting an article to article directories and your own site is an awful idea. You will potentially get penalized by Google for duplicate content and you are also pulling value away from the content on your own site.

There is absolutely nothing better than creating valuable information on your own website, of which others can link to. I would, however, recommend writing articles potentially about an article on your web site, and then linking to it.

I think you mean the syndicated content problem.Of course, if you are the original content owner. You'd better to post it on your own website. then, after it is indexed by google, you may re-post them to the high page rank article directories to get some more traffic.It is not a bad idea.You just use the syndicated content from yourself.
In my opinion, if it is bad, the article directory admin wouldn't approve your article if they feel it is duplicated content on their directories.

so no worries. Just go ahead. as long as your content is original and quality.

I don't do that. Google might be penalized you by doing a duplicate content.

This my step-by-step strategy. Hope this can help you:

1) Write original content on your website.
2) Use the original content and pulled 1 to 3 ideas to create a new content. (I think most of people will called it re-write).
3) Submit the new articles to article directory (I just use Ezine Articles and Go Articles).

Basically, I don't like to waste my time spamming the articles to every single article directory that existed in the web. I just choose a few that are known as a authority website.

Hope this sharing can help you.

Fadiz,

You are aware that article marketing is all about not being dependent on Google ranking for traffic, right? Anything an article marketer gets from Google is considered a bonus to the targeted traffic we already get by putting our work in front of a targeted audience on another site. Google can shut down tomorrow, and my business will keep on keeping on.

But who am I to argue with you? That would be low :rolleyes:.

So if 10 people buy 10 PLR articles and slap them up on 10 different blogs and submit to 10 article directories, is that duplicate content or syndication?
Would a blog owner who does rely on Google traffic be penalized for this in the rankings?
This is something that confuses the hell out of me. I always rewrite before I submit to article directories but now after reading Alexas post it seems I am wasting my time?

I really haven't done much article marketing as of late, but I can tell you that when I used to do it, it was very normal to post the same article to many different directories. These days that's considered a big no-no, and not only by search engines, but many directories won't allow you to do this anymore.

Alexa summed it up. You want to target publications that already have their loyal following. You can't get more targeted traffic than that.

Matt makes a good point as well. Contrary to the idea that is beaten into so many marketers heads, Google is not the "be all, end all" of the internet. To think so is to play a very dangerous game. Just ask people who have their businesses wiped out daily because Google changes one thing in their algorithm.

Wow - I cannot believe that so many people are SO CONFUSED about duplicate/syndicated, to post/not to post, etc! The answer is so simple - you'll not be penalized for submitting the exact same article to article directories after posting it to your own site (and giving it time to be indexed).

Many of you are working FAR harder than you have to. I write an article for my blog, post it on my site, then put it in a special folder for submission to article directories later. Simple! And way less work than what many of you seem to be doing!

Keep the old saying "Work smarter, not harder" in mind - it really works

Thanks for the solid point tess47. However, there are a lot of varying opinions so it is still hard not to be skeptical of posting content in directories (even after it has been indexed on my blog first).

Yes, I do! In fact, I also used to think Directories should be provided with unique content which turns out to be soo wrong! Write great articles and publish them to your blog first, and then, once they're indexed, submit them to the directories.

No, I do not do that. I always keep my content FRESH

I think it's OK to submit your article to directories as long as you wait for the version on your website to be indexed first and you then rewrite it before submitting it.

I am reading your posts before I reply Fadiz, I just don't agree with your point.

It seems to me that your idea of syndication being bad for SEO is based on a thought process rather than seeing any actual evidence to prove this.

How would working hard on content not benefit you for an SEO campaign?
The part of your post that I've bolded I can answer for you now- No. There is no off-site duplicate content penalty, though the idea of syndication is NOT to sumbit the article to hundreds/thousands of different article directories.

Rather, it is to have your article published on high quality, relevant sites in your niche in order to provide laser-targeted traffic. Even if you ignore the traffic and focus purely on SEO, I don't see how having a highly relevant, potentialy high PR backlink on a site in your niche could be anything but positive towards your SEO efforts.

And thank you very much! It's not the kind of thing that I can really offer a 'sneak peek' of I'm afraid, it is a labour of love that I'm working on as a side-project, but my hope is that when ready it will indeed be awesome.

Well this is just turning into a bunch of



Now we can keep arguing the same exact points for all eternity, or just agree to disagree and let the thread die. I hope that we choose the latter.

Also Fadiz, you don't get to complain about the rhetoric being upped when you sent things in that direction with your deleted post. You don't get to have it both ways.

Now let's move on because it's obvious none of us are convincing the other side to change their mindset, OK? The conversation has lost any chance at productivity.