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Ensuring spun content reads well..

by ochaim
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I started a spinrewriter membership a few weeks ago and was today contemplating looking for something else to try. Cuz the PLR I was spinning was just terrible.

Every article spun I had to edit to DEATH!

MANUAL lawn mower, not GUIDE lawn mower!! Y'know, I'm a newbie

So to make a point, I was going to spin a news article and share it with support to explain why I was asking a refund.

Low and behold.. the spun news article actually read very, very well!

WTF!

Anybody else notice this??
#content #ensuring #reads #spun
  • Profile picture of the author warriorkay
    Did you spin this,

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  • Profile picture of the author erichammer
    I don't think there is a single spinning program available which doesn't require significant human editing after the fact. It's just the nature of the beast - they aren't human beings and they simply don't have the features needed to do what you want. So either accept that you need to edit manually or stop using spun content altogether. It's generally not useful anyway for most things.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      I completely agree. I've never dealt with spinning articles for this reason alone. I can write the articles myself faster than I can edit the mess I end up with. Or even higher someone else to actually write the articles for me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        I used to spin articles at one time (when I first started off). As you say, it was quite a bit of editing work, and very time-consuming, but that was the only way to make them readable.

        Now that I've learned more about it, I don't still do it.

        If anyone's interested, I can suggest six little items to read, which offer insight into this subject ...

        (i) This post explains the benefits of spinning;

        (ii) This post, and its links, explain how article directories really work and why they exist;

        (iii) The first half (or so) of this thread contains a good discussion of what you can gain from spinning articles;

        (iv) The advice on this subject given by so many people throughout most of this thread has been really helpful to many people here;

        (v) On the meaning and significance of "duplicate content", in this context, this little post from expert article marketer Anne Pottinger includes direct quotations from Google's WebMaster Central Blog on the subject (not easy to find a more authoritative source than that!);

        (vi) This little article is also a very useful and accurate explanation of the subject.
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        • Profile picture of the author ochaim
          Originally Posted by warriorkay View Post

          Did you spin this,

          Kingsley
          LOL, holy crap, that was almost as bad as the spun PLR I got from spinrewriter. I was rushed pick up the kids... nice one though.

          Originally Posted by erichammer View Post

          I don't think there is a single spinning program available which doesn't require significant human editing after the fact. It's just the nature of the beast - they aren't human beings and they simply don't have the features needed to do what you want. So either accept that you need to edit manually or stop using spun content altogether. It's generally not useful anyway for most things.
          Yah, I agree with you. At the moment, spinning programs leave much to be desired in terms of their paraphrasing quality. But it doesn't mean it won't get better. If you could somehow combine the Adwords Keyword Tool's LSI technology and the kind of "grammar checker" that programs like word has, you'd be getting closer to human spinning. This thesaurus spinning is very low-brow. But I do believe it has its place.

          Originally Posted by luckystepho View Post

          I personally think you are better off concentrating on solid, quality content than relying on spun articles. You can get good quality PLR or ghostwritten articles quite cheaply, and which would require far less time to edit than a load of spun articles that don't make sense and will not give much value to your readers.
          Well said. I don't try to spin crappy (free) PLR though. I think good quality PLR work well as a template or starting point for your own article though. I haven't tried putting spun content on the few sites I have so far, it feels dirty, or like when you have your fly open. Very unsettling. I've been dabbling in backlinking and it seems spun PLR/original articles is the IN thing.

          Originally Posted by cashp0wer View Post

          I completely agree. I've never dealt with spinning articles for this reason alone. I can write the articles myself faster than I can edit the mess I end up with. Or even higher someone else to actually write the articles for me.
          Sorry guys, I think we went off a little bit. My whole point of bringing a very readable spun article from a news article was that perhaps the reason I was getting poor spin results was because there's a difference in quality between the PLR I've been using and an actual news article written by a professional journalist.

          And for clarification, I've been using spun articles for backlinking purpose, SEO, not article marketing. Why else would you want a million versions of one article???

          Thanks, Alexa. I think you changed the way I'm going to approach the backlinking campaigns I was going to try. However, from the links, I didn't see one benefit of spinning.. or was that the point??

          I can appreciate the difference between syndicated content and duplicate content. But when is syndicated content considered "auto-generated" content? (sorry off topic there, but your posts brought me there).
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  • Profile picture of the author luckystepho
    I personally think you are better off concentrating on solid, quality content than relying on spun articles. You can get good quality PLR or ghostwritten articles quite cheaply, and which would require far less time to edit than a load of spun articles that don't make sense and will not give much value to your readers.
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  • Profile picture of the author ochaim
    sorry, guys, I think the title is misleading you guys and I didn't make clear the intent of my post.

    I hypothesized that the readable spin I got was due to it being an article written by a professional journalist. as opposed to an article from a 15 article pack for $5.

    perhaps the professional journalist writes in such a manner as to be unambiguous in terms of how spinning software chooses synonyms.

    Just something that came to mind, guys.

    I know the human brain has intricacies modern technology can't duplicate.

    Yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Why and how are you using these?

    I don't think spun articles are worth it unless you're spamming the internet full of garbage.

    And even if you do that... you're still spamming the internet full of garbage?
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I wouldn't use spun articles if my life depended on it. The results are totally laughable. Just make your own content. 2 articles per day you should be able to start off with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce99
    Alexa always makes a good point on the misuse of spinning ...

    But the reality is that people use whatever they can until they get to the next level. and there are many shades of grey in here.

    Spin wise .. its true that you cant beat good content, but how many people actually write ten good quality articles of 1200 words per day? Good content often means getting OS writers on the cheap to give you something - isnt this just as grey?

    Morals and judgements aside, most spinners are manual and use pipes and brackets. If you spend time understanding what replacements you can use in a given set of alternative words you get better at it. You may have to occasionally re-write .. but not as often. why not compromise and get OS writers to spin your original content into spin grammar, then spin as often as you want?

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