Does the FTC Biz Op 2012 Law/Rule Affect selling PLR Packages?

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Will this FTC Biz Op Law/Rule affect people selling PLR packages?

(Selling PLR Packages for others to sell on)

eg, if i sell PLR Videos, for people to repackage and sell on?

or it depends on the Licence terms of the PLR Package ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Networking_now
    Any assistance on this please?

    as i cant find any info, and dont want to do anything against the terms/

    Please
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    People here probably cannot answer that for you...

    You would need to seek clarification on that from an attorney.

    There is one or two of them running around here, but they may not see this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    This is actually a good question, but my completely personal advice which you cannot take for legal advice at all, is that it doesn't count as a biz opp under new FTC guidelines as you are not providing customers.

    As far as I understand the new guidelines, the definition of a biz opp has to fit all the definitions and as long as you do not provide customers for people to sell the PLR to, it doesn't count as a biz opp.

    With PLR, you are just selling content that multiple people are allowed to use and sell on their own, but they have to go out and find their own customers.

    Again, just my personal advice since I'm not a lawyer!
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    • Profile picture of the author Networking_now
      Originally Posted by J Bold View Post

      Again, just my personal advice since I'm not a lawyer!
      Have you ever considered being one! .

      (thanks I liked your answer, and I hope it is true lol)
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by Networking_now View Post

        Have you ever considered being one! .

        (thanks I liked your answer, and I hope it is true lol)

        I tend to agree with his answer, but you should never take legal advice from someone who is not licensed to give you legal advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Halcyon
    Did you read the FTC ruling? I know reading government documents is about as fun as a root canal, but if it affects you, you may want to take the time to read it.

    To my understanding of the rule, you want to stay away from income claims and if you allow people to resell your packages, make sure that either your association with the product is removed or you take steps to ensure that your resellers aren't making income claims under your name.
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    • Profile picture of the author Networking_now
      Originally Posted by Halcyon View Post

      Did you read the FTC ruling? I know reading government documents is about as fun as a root canal, but if it affects you, you may want to take the time to read it.

      To my understanding of the rule, you want to stay away from income claims and if you allow people to resell your packages, make sure that either your association with the product is removed or you take steps to ensure that your resellers aren't making income claims under your name.
      That is an excellent tip, thanks.

      But in that case, my product with my Name on, sold to somebody else, and if they Sell it on their site with False income claims, (with my name on the product).

      Who could get in trouble? the Person who owns that site ? (the buyer of my products rights')

      or me? (the person whose ebook it is)


      and if I do sell it to somebody, who 'might' put false income claims,
      can I put a statement in the ebook to cover myself?

      Eg like this:

      This ebook has been sold to this seller, the rights have been sold/given to the sole owner of this website.


      (so that it covers myself)
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  • Profile picture of the author Halcyon
    I mentioned this because a situation like this is what lit the fuse on Frank Kern's problem with the FTC.

    Needless to say there's a whole lot more to his ordeal but you want to be very careful with what is sold under your name. All it takes is a consumer complaint to the FTC to open a can of trouble.



    I'm not sure how you would go about protecting yourself if your name remains on the product. But MRR sellers do it all the time so I'm sure there's a way. You just have to find some good legal advice. Not just any lawyer, one skilled in Internet, FTC laws.
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    • Profile picture of the author Networking_now
      Originally Posted by Halcyon View Post

      I mentioned this because a situation like this is what lit the fuse on Frank Kern's problem with the FTC.

      Needless to say there's a whole lot more to his ordeal but you want to be very careful with what is sold under your name. All it takes is a consumer complaint to the FTC to open a can of trouble.



      I'm not sure how you would go about protecting yourself if your name remains on the product. But MRR sellers do it all the time so I'm sure there's a way. You just have to find some good legal advice. Not just any lawyer, one skilled in Internet, FTC laws.

      How could Frank Kern have protected himself from that stuff happening? What could he have said in the Rights statment when he sold the rights on to others?
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    When did PLR become a business opportunity? I sell literature that gives you the right to do what you want with it (except for selling it as PLR). It is a business tool. It's just informational literature about the subject of your business field not a business plan. If PLR is a business opportunity - so is a domain name and website hosting and anything else that can be used to build or develop a business.

    If you buy and then sell PLR -- that's YOUR business plan, not the person's that sold the literature.
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  • Profile picture of the author bertuseng
    This is total nonsense. If selling PLR can be classified as a biz op, then selling bananas next to the road can also be classified as a biz op, as the customer can take the bananas and go sell it somewhere else. My opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by bertuseng View Post

      This is total nonsense. If selling PLR can be classified as a biz op, then selling bananas next to the road can also be classified as a biz op, as the customer can take the bananas and go sell it somewhere else.
      The difference is that with PLR, you are actively selling the product under the pretense that it can be resold. It's the difference between wholesale (requires a licence) and retail (requires no licence). Things get murky because PLR can be a bizopp if you say the right/wrong things.

      Not a bizopp: "These reports include full rights, so you can do anything with them that you could do with reports you wrote yourself."

      Possibly a bizopp: "PLR included - sell them for any price! Make money in minutes, even if you've never sold anything before! FREE BONUS - massive list of places you can sell them! Start your own business today!"

      And therefore, talk to an attorney. Yes, it is possible to sell PLR without coming under the bizopp rules. It is also possible to climb right into them and pull the fire alarm just to make sure everyone sees you doing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shane N
    Would selling an "established website" that is already earning money be considered a biz op?

    I wonder what the fine line between selling a "business" and a "biz op" is... I will have to do some reading this week!

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