What do you think about misleading avatars?

by giveusallfreedom 113 replies
Personally, I really don't care what you have as an avatar. Mine's a freaking atomic bomb blast for crying out loud. Who am I to judge?

That being said, I saw one avatar for one member that I believe misrepresented that individual and looked more like just a way to get attention. Here's a hypothetical situation. Say someone has an avatar of them in a brand new Ferrari and in reality they are no where near being able to afford a Ferrari.

We're in a marketing forum and we sell products to each other. So...

Is it false advertising?
Is it unethical?
Should they change their avatar?

For the record the situation is purely hypothetical. The avatar in question has nothing to do with car. My point is only this...if you're avatar has nothing to do with you or your product and purely exists to entice people that would otherwise ignore you, should you take it down?

What's your thoughts?
#main internet marketing discussion forum #avatars #misleading
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    I don't care one way or the other really.
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      • Profile picture of the author Phil Jacobson
        I think it's probably best to have your photo there. I seem to remember people better and feel I can trust them if it's their real photo.
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        • Profile picture of the author Corwinnx
          Mine is my pic, BUT, visualization does work, so if the 'ferarri' in question is the members 'dream' maybe it's just his or her way of reminding his or herself of that dream every time he or she posts.

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          • Profile picture of the author sparrow
            Marcus you beat me to this, must be thinking on parallel lines

            the dream, whether its theres or yours

            success all starts with a dream

            I don't who said but it was something like this if you can dream you can attain it

            besides who cares what people put up for avatars

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            Originally Posted by Corwinnx View Post

            Mine is my pic, BUT, visualization does work, so if the 'ferarri' in question is the members 'dream' maybe it's just his or her way of reminding his or herself of that dream every time he or she posts.

            -Marcus
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            Originally Posted by Corwinnx View Post

            Mine is my pic, BUT, visualization does work, so if the 'ferarri' in question is the members 'dream' maybe it's just his or her way of reminding his or herself of that dream every time he or she posts.

            -Marcus
            I agree with Marcus here. You never know why someone uses a specific avatar.

            To be honest about it, I don't think that is false advertising, unethical, or that that person or any other should have to change it to suit other members.

            I caught myself this morning noticing that someone had what I thought was too provocative (sexy) of an avatar, but then thought about different ways people express themselves, and that it's not my place to sensor another.

            Think about it, next thing you know people will be quibbling over nothing, or as Allen mentioned in one of his posts regarding infractions - "Someone gave an infraction to someone else because they thought that individual had an incorrect avatar" or something similar.


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          • Profile picture of the author clanspring
            Originally Posted by Corwinnx View Post

            Mine is my pic, BUT, visualization does work, so if the 'ferarri' in question is the members 'dream' maybe it's just his or her way of reminding his or herself of that dream every time he or she posts.

            -Marcus
            That is the same thing I wanted to say. On the other hand, why worry about the avatar? Then again, bring up the subject allows people to express their opinions, and an observant person can learn what is likely to work versus what is likely to hamper their own business.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alan Petersen
          Atomic bomb or scantly dressed woman in a bikini--both unprofessional so same-same. :-) In a marketing forum it should be your picture or at least your business logo or business brand. But to each their own.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    I think I know what you are saying and I agree...

    You see if on Ebay sometimes, they will be selling something and will have a picture of a lovely girl in a skimpy bikini, it does catch the eye, however in a forum its a turn off and perhaps on ebay as well,

    More so when the person is likely to not be a woman in the first place.

    So yes, I agree, using pictures of a woman when your a man is really not a good thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jelasco
      I think it's getting ridiculous what little things people are complaining about.
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      • Profile picture of the author Diana Lane
        I think it looks a bit pathetic on eBay when the gallery photo is that of a woman's thong-clad butt in the air, especially when it has nothing to do with the product. Yet I've seen all kinds of things advertised in this way on there, particularly web hosting. The relevance escapes me.

        On here though, a photo of someone in a Ferrari might be someone's way of giving themselves something to aim for. I'm more likely to judge someone by the quality and content of their posts than I am by an avatar, but I'll admit that I'm shallow enough to wonder, if only fleetingly, whether a poster has a face like an open grave if they're using a picture of something else instead
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    • Profile picture of the author kittyluver
      An avatar is a computer user's representation of himself or herself. (Source:Wikipedia). Avatar or Avatara (Sanskrit: अवतार, IAST Avatāra) in Hindu philosophy is the 'descent' or incarnation of a divine being (deva) or the supreme being (God) onto planet Earth.

      So You can consider your avatar as a best one SHOULD be your picture not even your GF pic...(lol)
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris8
        In my opinion, You can use whatever avatar you want to. I seriously believe that people are not that gullible to picturize a member based on their avatars. The life style photos posted by some of the so called super affiliates, on their blogs, is a completely different thing though. I have seen many people fall for them.
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        • Profile picture of the author YeopMayuru
          I believe that a person should present his/herself properly in any line of communication.

          Promotes better good will between the two parties. Don't it?
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Maybe it's my multiple trips around the block, but when I see a guy posing in front of a fancy car, all I see is a guy standing in front of a fancy car. Same for posing in front of a fancy house.

          There's an outfit up the road a way that rents fancy cars to tourists who want to take in the sunshine is a sporty convertible. Anything from your garden variety Porsche or Ferrari to a vintage '65 Mustang. My wife and I walk onto the lot with a camera, and 30 seconds later I have a picture of myself posing with 'my' convertible.

          After a few minutes' drive, we come to one of the barrier islands along the Gulf. We pull off to the side of the road, set our camera on the 'For Sale' sign and a few seconds later we have a picture of ourselves in front of 'our' multi-million dollar beach house.

          An avatar is just a picture, no big deal...

          I recall a cartoon in a magazine showing a canine typing on a computer, filling out a member profile. The caption: "On the Internet, no one knows you're a dog."
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          • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
            Hey overweight men can have skinny blonde GF's in bikinis too...

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          • Profile picture of the author YiKeS
            G`day,

            well I`m not sure if I`ll put my pic up ... I have my favicon as my
            avatar on about all forums I`m a member and always end my post
            with my name (which I notice now not many do) ... don`t think I
            have a pic of me with a shirt on ... who`d wanna see my hairy
            stringbean chest!??

            Branding is powerful ... so is visualisation but surely if one used the
            visualization as a reason to put a cheesy expensive flash car up they
            could better serve that purpose by printing the photo to a large size
            and taping it above the monitor.

            The "pretty woman when your a man" thing .... purely to attract
            attention ... guess it`s similar to having your name in big fat capital
            letters ... turn more people off than anything ... lol ... no stats on
            that tho.

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            • Profile picture of the author Jean Morgan
              I have seen two that I really don't like at all, apart from that everyone is being quite sensible compared to what I have seen on forums elsewhere. I expect to see the envelope being pushed further and further over time.

              The fact that I don't like them is my personal opinion and no-one else's. If Allen decides he doesn't like someones avatar or maybe he gets a lot of complaints about some avatars then I expect he will do something about it. Until then... well not a lot can be done other than to alert him that some people are concerned which is what this thread is doing.

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              • Profile picture of the author KarlWarren
                The only person "misled" by an avatar is the person who allows themselves to be.

                There is no hard and fast rule that says 'you must use your own photo'
                do you think Allen really is a monkey?

                There are some questionable avatars, one in particular (semi-clad woman) is
                pushing it a bit.

                I wouldn't pay much mind to someone's avatar in a business sense, unless it
                was offensive - in which case I'd choose not to do business with that person.
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                • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
                  Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

                  The only person "misled" by an avatar is the person who allows themselves to be.

                  There is no hard and fast rule that says 'you must use your own photo'
                  do you think Allen really is a monkey?

                  There are some questionable avatars, one in particular (semi-clad woman) is
                  pushing it a bit.

                  I wouldn't pay much mind to someone's avatar in a business sense, unless it
                  was offensive - in which case I'd choose not to do business with that person.
                  ^^ What paranoid stalkerphobic boy just said ^^

                  I think it's great to see most of you, is all.

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                  • Profile picture of the author ShayB
                    I look at it this way:

                    I have my pic as my avatar (for better or worse, it's how I look! ).

                    If someone on this forum has an avatar that is offensive or simply puts people off, that is one person I have an advantage over, so to speak, because someone might do business with me, rather than that person.

                    So it doesn't bother me in the least.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Fran_C
                    Interesting discussion... I have noticed a lot of interesting Avatars in different forums
                    but I mostly enjoy seeing the poster's photo and that reminded me to go post my photo
                    for this WF forum...

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                    • Profile picture of the author Christie Love
                      Personally, I like pictures. I think misleading avators remove the personal touch that people need when communicating with each other. The internet is so impersonable already.

                      When someone sends me friend request and they have an avator, I feel leary. I like looking into a person's eyes to see their sincerity. I truely do believe that the eyes are the window to the soul. Feel free to look into mine. You'll see a lot is going on in there.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
                        Originally Posted by Christie Love View Post

                        I like looking into a person's eyes to see their sincerity. I truely do believe that the eyes are the window to the soul..
                        I couldn't agree more...

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                • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
                  If Allen is not a cute little cigar smoking monkey, then I feel totally misled.

                  I don't actually think the original post was stupid. Everything that you post on here (and anywhere else for that matter) represents you and builds up your "brand". When you choose an avatar, it's worth thinking about whether it's saying something helpful (or at least neutral), or harmful about you. I've seen a couple of avatars that would cause me to take the poster less seriously. Of course it's their choice to post whatever type of avatar they want; they just may be making a poor choice.



                  Originally Posted by KarlWarren View Post

                  The only person "misled" by an avatar is the person who allows themselves to be.

                  There is no hard and fast rule that says 'you must use your own photo'
                  do you think Allen really is a monkey?

                  There are some questionable avatars, one in particular (semi-clad woman) is
                  pushing it a bit.

                  I wouldn't pay much mind to someone's avatar in a business sense, unless it
                  was offensive - in which case I'd choose not to do business with that person.
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                  • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                    Hi DanaW,

                    Yep, I think that the monkey that Karl Warren has a picture of in his avatar is a really bad idea
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                    • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
                      You'd think he would post a picture of an actual human, wouldn't you?

                      You're hilarious, ex-rat, I always love reading your posts!

                      Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

                      Hi DanaW,

                      Yep, I think that the monkey that Karl Warren has a picture of in his avatar is a really bad idea
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              • Profile picture of the author xmx
                I wear a Ferrari F1 cap in my avatar pic.

                I am a big fan of Ferrari F1, but I still don't own a ferrari car,
                and even if I had the money to buy it I think I wouldn't.

                About misleading avatars, I think I wouldn't be influenced so
                much by pics of forum users, I would investigate a little more
                about the person.


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            • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
              Well, if you are building a brand you should use this medium to build your brand. My brand in this niche is my face and domain Focused2Win.com, and you can see both with my avatar.

              Many people do not have a plan and try to look cool and not professional with their avatar. (in my opinion)

              With this new feature I do judge a book by its cover. If I am trying to make a decision on a business deal I now take into account how they choose to display themselves here (if they are members) and on there websites.

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      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      I think I know what you are saying and I agree...

      You see if on Ebay sometimes, they will be selling something and will have a picture of a lovely girl in a skimpy bikini, it does catch the eye, however in a forum its a turn off and perhaps on ebay as well,

      More so when the person is likely to not be a woman in the first place.

      So yes, I agree, using pictures of a woman when your a man is really not a good thing.

      Tim,

      When my lady put's her bikini on I'll be sure to send you a note. :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
        I am sure you are not really a:



        And I am sure Allen is not really a cigar rolling Cuban grandma:



        Soooo misleading!
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        • Profile picture of the author admin
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          When it comes to avatars I have a habit of changing mine almost weekly. I'm hope that doesn't piss anyone off because I don't intend to stop :-)
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          • Profile picture of the author ExRat
            Hi Allen,

            Ref - the picture of the cigar lady in Josh's post/your avatar

            My mate Ronnie Balfour Corbett has been searching for ages to try and find the Cuban woman who pinched his glasses. I see she's bust them and fixed them with some sticky tape. 'And it's goodnight from him...' (ref - The Two Ronnies - you need to be an ageing Brit to understand this drivel)

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            • Profile picture of the author Keith Boisvert
              I wonder if this is what hell feels like? Posting something stupid to the WF and nobody being able to let it go. :^)
              Nope. It gets worse At least you can log off. Say something equally stupid to your wife...now THAT"S hell!

              Trust me. I have 2 years left in hell, 14 months on good behavior.


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              • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                Hi,

                If you going to ruin your lungs anyway, you might as well fall off your perch in style (AKA my smoking old lady trumps yours and she's older - or was it the filterless cigarettes that gave her the wrinkles?)

                http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/blogs/s...ade/spliff.jpg

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                • Profile picture of the author MikeLantz
                  I think we should mislead avatars every chance we get...

                  It is a lot better than misleading real people!

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              • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
                Originally Posted by Keith Boisvert View Post

                Nope. It gets worse At least you can log off. Say something equally stupid to your wife...now THAT"S hell!

                Trust me. I have 2 years left in hell, 14 months on good behavior.


                keith
                That's why I'm not married. I knew their was reason. ;^)

                At this point, I figure I might as well just keep posting to this thread. If I can't kill it, I might as well see how long it goes.

                Of course the moment I post this, the freaking thread will die.
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                • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
                  At this point, I figure I might as well just keep posting to this thread. If I can't kill it, I might as well see how long it goes.

                  Of course the moment I post this, the freaking thread will die.
                  Don't be trying your reverse psychology on us...

                  Whodya think you are??? Frank Kern??...

                  We gotta keep this bad boy alive now for the simple fact that you thought posting about keeping it alive and then slipping in the imminent death sentence would cause us to let it die... confused?

                  Peace

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                  • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
                    Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

                    Don't be trying your reverse psychology on us...

                    Whodya think you are??? Frank Kern??...

                    We gotta keep this bad boy alive now for the simple fact that you thought posting about keeping it alive and then slipping in the imminent death sentence would cause us to let it die... confused?

                    Peace

                    Jay
                    Jay,

                    LMAO. No, I tried the psychology thing here once and it failed miserably. I tend to just say it like it is now. As dumb as I think my original post was, I am kind of amused by the fact that it hit over 50 something replies. If it hits over 100, I probably won't know whether to piss my self from laughter or shoot myself from embarrassment.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
                    I should go ahead and admit that I am being misleading because I really don't look like this.
                    Should tell you right now that I actually look exactly like Brad Pitt but I'm learning to be humble so I found this knucklehead's pic.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Keith Boisvert
                      Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

                      I should go ahead and admit that I am being misleading because I really don't look like this.
                      Should tell you right now that I actually look exactly like Brad Pitt but I'm learning to be humble so I found this knucklehead's pic.
                      I thought you used this knuckleheads pic for your avatar?



                      Just kidding. "C'mon, Get Happy! "
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                      • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
                        An avatar picture representing your actual self seems to only come from Internet Marketing related websites. Here, it seems to be connected to business and branding, and for what this place is seems to be an accurate mindset of most posters.

                        I've used everything from Kristin Kreuk to Gandhi(from the movie UHF) to a monkey holding a gun as an avatar. It's a form of expression to me. It doesn't have to show WHO you are, but represent who you are.

                        Allan's obviously a little odd and he likes to show that. The nuclear explosion is memorable and that may be all the OP is shooting for.

                        Outside of IM forums people use anything and everything they want as avatars. Lately, with The Dark Knight being so popular, I've seen way too many Joker avatars to mention.

                        At the end of the day, I think an avatar is another form of expression. Like the signature, which also has the IM overtone of being used for advertising. I'm sure some places you just stick a quote in that box because you like the quote and then are done with your sig
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                        • Profile picture of the author Kael41
                          Quick question: where did this particular issue pop up? Are people really bitching whether somoene uses their personal pic as an avatar or not? Come on people. I've been using internet forums going back to the BBS days and i've never felt the need or requirement to use my personal picture. God, if people really want to know what i look like, just ask and i'll send pics. I promise you i'm not ugly!
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                          • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
                            Originally Posted by Kael41 View Post

                            Quick question: where did this particular issue pop up? Are people really bitching whether somoene uses their personal pic as an avatar or not? Come on people. I've been using internet forums going back to the BBS days and i've never felt the need or requirement to use my personal picture. God, if people really want to know what i look like, just ask and i'll send pics. I promise you i'm not ugly!
                            But you are modest, so isn't that all that really matters.

                            And no. Nobody's complaining about using as self pic. Let's not take this discussion even farther down the road of stupid ideas than I've already taken it.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Kael41
                              Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

                              But you are modest, so isn't that all that really matters.
                              Truly one of my many failings Ah well, at least I don't have any self-debilitating vices Blame it on the lawyer in me..it was always "eyes on me" in the courtroom. Gotta play to your strengths

                              Self confidence or arrogance..gotta find that line one of these days
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                              • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
                                Now if I could only figure out who this guy is with his hand on my belly... :p
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                        • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
                          Keith that's too funny. I was cracking up

                          We might both look like we've had a rough life but I think he has been in more bar fights than me.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Keith Boisvert
                            Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

                            Keith that's too funny. I was cracking up

                            We might both look like we've had a rough life but I think he has been in more bar fights than me.

                            Yeah, being a child star appears to lead to a rough life, or at least the norm. And I am sure he has the whole board beat as far as bar fights go!!

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                            • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
                              I still think I too can knock out Donny Osmond.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Keith Boisvert
                                Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

                                I still think I too can knock out Donny Osmond.
                                Haha. Its Marie you have to worry about!! She will kill you with kindness and beg you to make her stop being so damn friendly!!

                                I hear Danny B, Donny O, David cassidy, and Leif Garret are hooking up with MC Hammer and David Hasseloff for a European Tour next year.

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                              • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
                                Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

                                I still think I too can knock out Donny Osmond.
                                ...at last! Someone who wants to take Donny out...!

                                I'm prepared to lead with the boot.

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                        • Profile picture of the author admin
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                          Originally Posted by Ephrils View Post

                          Allan's obviously a little odd and he likes to show that. The nuclear explosion is memorable and that may be all the OP is shooting for.

                          LOL. That's the coolest thing anyone's ever said about me. Except you spelled my name wrong, now I have to ban you...
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                          • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
                            Originally Posted by ;50413

                            LOL. That's the coolest thing anyone's ever said about me. Except you spelled my name wrong, now I have to ban you...
                            Sorry

                            I know a handful of Allen's in real life, and they all spell their name differently I had to pick one and go with it.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Tom Dean
                              I have to agree with Donna. It's worth thinking about what you use as an Avatar.

                              With more & more people using social sites (that use Avatars) for business communications and to reach their market, maybe it should be given some thought even if you simply use your brand/logo.

                              Most newer blog themes are including Avatars for commenter's. The forum here has them along with a pic for your blog on the forum.

                              The local paper uses their logo for their twitter Avatar & I will stop when scanning a page if I see their logo.

                              I think mine sucks for this forum so it will be changed... but what do you thing about these Avatars:

                              http://tinyurl.com/5ahtrm - World Village Blog

                              http://tinyurl.com/6ypzp3 - Twitter

                              http://tinyurl.com/35reku - My Blog (several people have sent me emails about how pretty my horse is in this one and inquired about it) Well it's not my horse. I was on vacation in Canada.

                              http://tinyurl.com/5alz6z - Facebook

                              http://tinyurl.com/6yfhpe - iTunes

                              Any of these give off a feeling of - trustworthy, honest, knowledgeable, would do business with?

                              Didn't think so lol. I know... thank goodness my kids got their Mom's good looks.

                              Anyway I think what you use should be considered in the light of whatever message you most want to convey.

                              Tony Blake's picture "The Angry Marketer Blog" seems to be a good job of branding. He uses it on all the social sights (I think) and he does look angry.

                              I'm sure you can pick up on many more examples.

                              Off to look for the right Avatar pic. Thanks Atomic Bomber now I'm freaked out by all of mine.

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                    • I feel sorry for you if you look like Brad Pitt. Too bad you don't look like George Clooney.

                      Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

                      I should go ahead and admit that I am being misleading because I really don't look like this.
                      Should tell you right now that I actually look exactly like Brad Pitt but I'm learning to be humble so I found this knucklehead's pic.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
                        Hey Angela, if you squint real hard (maybe close them) I kinda look like George right?
                        Yeah, thought not.

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                        • Well, if I don't use my corrective lenses (so nearsighted it's not measurable), EVERYBODY looks like George.

                          Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

                          Hey Angela, if you squint real hard (maybe close them) I kinda look like George right?
                          Yeah, thought not.

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                        • Profile picture of the author dbh
                          Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

                          Hey Angela, if you squint real hard (maybe close them) I kinda look like George right?
                          Yeah, thought not.

                          Back to Bragolinaville

                          Maybe just me but I think he looks alot like Chuck Norris.....
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                          • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
                            Hey dbh,

                            Funny you should say that. Back in 1978 I was 21 and just married with my first son on the way and was working a second job as a security guard on the weekends.

                            One Sat afternoon me and another guy are told that Chuck Norris and some other celebrities are going to be showing up at this mall for a charity event and that me and the other guy are going to escort them in safely.

                            They show up and Chuck is actually about 5'5" - 5'7" and I'm 6'5" walking through the mall "protecting" Chuck Norris.

                            So now I'm able to tell folks that I was Chuck's body guard for a day!
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                            • Profile picture of the author Alexandre Valois
                              My take on this issue ...

                              I don't really mind what's in your avatar, but please, this isn't high school anymore.

                              I don't mind having a scantly dressed woman on my screen, but the person behind it better be in the dating niche or whatever, and enlighten us with his post. Otherwise, I see it only as another desperate scream for attention. And I know Allen enough to see just how the monkey relates

                              Nothing wrong with letting your personality show. Truth be told, you'd see me in the street you'd think I'm just one of those Raver kids wearing pants that could probably land me safely on good ground if I jumped out of an airplane.

                              I dress as I like and state my opinion. But I don't go out of my way to shock or pull stunts to attract attention. And it's my picture you see on the left.

                              Now, while I got nothing about showing off your interests or hobbies or whatever you think defines you in your avatar .... I think nothing would ever suit you as your own picture, especially in the awesome networking resource that is the warrior forum.

                              I, for one, pay a lot more attention to posts made by people with their faces on my screen rather than flashy pictures. Maybe it's a matter of rapport, maybe it's just a reflexive response to blatant attempts to hype, but that's the way it is.

                              Now, let's just hope this doesn't open a new can of worms and turns the WF into another myspace ...

                              Alex.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
                    And I don't know that I trust anyone whose avatar only shows one eye. It seems sneaky, Jay. hmmm.....

                    Seriously though, I think the OP had a good point! Whatever you post, whatever picture you use, is liable to live forever on the internet and be associated with your name. There are a couple of avatars on here - okay, one is standing out in particular and I think it's the one several people hinted at - as really not a great idea.

                    See, atomic bomb man, this wasn't the worst thread ever started. Not even the second worst.




                    Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

                    Don't be trying your reverse psychology on us...

                    Whodya think you are??? Frank Kern??...

                    We gotta keep this bad boy alive now for the simple fact that you thought posting about keeping it alive and then slipping in the imminent death sentence would cause us to let it die... confused?

                    Peace

                    Jay
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                    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
                      Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

                      And I don't know that I trust anyone whose avatar only shows one eye. It seems sneaky, Jay. hmmm.....
                      Dana....

                      How can you say that???....

                      You have sooooooo seen the full face on another forum....

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                    • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
                      Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

                      And I don't know that I trust anyone whose avatar only shows one eye. It seems sneaky, Jay. hmmm.....

                      Seriously though, I think the OP had a good point! Whatever you post, whatever picture you use, is liable to live forever on the internet and be associated with your name. There are a couple of avatars on here - okay, one is standing out in particular and I think it's the one several people hinted at - as really not a great idea.

                      See, atomic bomb man, this wasn't the worst thread ever started. Not even the second worst.
                      Dana,

                      Is that why you chose your picture with that sexy come hither look in your eyes?

                      Thanks for the vote of confidence and the new super hero name too.

                      I am ATOMIC BOMB MAN. Able to give you cancer in a single explosion.

                      I feel like I should have a cape on or something.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
                        Yikes, is that what I'm doing? That might explain why, when I posted my picture on the radio site Jango.com, a guy who had a picture of himself with a snake around his neck sent me a message saying "Damn ur hot." No I was not flattered; I was alarmed. I took my picture down. (Didn't have my full name or location on there.)

                        Now go design yourself a cape. What kind of superhero are you without a costume?

                        Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

                        Dana,

                        Is that why you chose your picture with that sexy come hither look in your eyes?

                        Thanks for the vote of confidence and the new super hero name too.

                        I am ATOMIC BOMB MAN. Able to give you cancer in a single explosion.

                        I feel like I should have a cape on or something.
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                        • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
                          Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

                          Yikes, is that what I'm doing? That might explain why, when I posted my picture on the radio site Jango.com, a guy who had a picture of himself with a snake around his neck sent me a message saying "Damn ur hot." No I was not flattered; I was alarmed. I took my picture down. (Didn't have my full name or location on there.)

                          Now go design yourself a cape. What kind of superhero are you without a costume?
                          LMAO

                          That story combined with Keith's post about pissing your wife off were worth this post any day of the week.

                          John Rowe, I'm not going to post a link, because it really wasn't that big of a deal. If you really want to know PM me, but it really doesn't matter.

                          I'm honestly kind of surprised that nobody has brought up the fact that my screen name is giveusallfreedom and my avatar is an atomic bomb. I actually chose them both for completely unrelated reasons, but the irony kind of hit me as I was following this thread.
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                          • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
                            Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

                            John Rowe, I'm not going to post a link, because it really wasn't that big of a deal. If you really want to know PM me, but it really doesn't matter.
                            Okay... that does it! Back to Humor School for me.

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                    • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
                      Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

                      There are a couple of avatars on here - okay, one is standing out in particular and I think it's the one several people hinted at - as really not a great idea.
                      Can someone please post a link to this bozo's profile?
                      I've just got to see how stupid some people can be.

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              • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                I have 2 years left in hell, 14 months on good behavior.
                http://www.goohf.com is your friend.

                Now THAT would be an interesting avatar... hmmm...

                BTW... It worked, Allen. All that goofing around and people don't even realize that your current avatar IS an actual photo of you. Clever.


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            • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
              Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

              My mate Ronnie Balfour Corbett has been searching for ages to try and find the Cuban woman who pinched his glasses.
              Oh... She lives a few doors down from me.

              She said he told her she could have them...

              At least, I think that's what she said.

              Yo soy un gringo. Mi espaƱol esta malo.

              Best,

              Breeang
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            • Profile picture of the author Alton Hargrave
              I am not trying to mislead anyone. I really am a very handsome guy. Yes, this is my real picture. LOL Actually, I used to be tolerable. I think. Who knows? Who cares?

              I think all of us should put our real picture on here. It won't hurt. And, it helps us get to know each other.

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            • Profile picture of the author dbh
              My avatar isn't misleading in any way. Its just cute . As far as professionalism goes, its just an avatar. I'd rather deal with people who have a sense of humor along with their professionalism anyway.....
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            • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
              It depends...

              One person, that I have noticed, is using a stock photo of a woman. If you check their profile/images, they have other stock photos of this person.

              This leads me to think this person is trying to mislead people. Especially since they have many of them. Of course they could be a model for stock photo companies but I dought it.

              In this case, I do think it's wrong because of the intent.
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            • Profile picture of the author Andy Money
              Eh, I don't think it matters. Are you really judging people by their avatars..?
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexandre Valois
                Sure, a person's choice in avatar, as in cars or anything, is led by their own perception of reality as well as how they perceive themselves to be.

                The way I dress, the words I choose to say, are all so many ways to express my views and impress my reality on others. In doing so I am fully aware that I will be judged in return, and that will probably alienate some people - mostly people I wouldn't want to do business with in the first place anyway. Those who can relate will in turn be bound by a sense of newfound rapport, and true interactions may then take place - to me it's all about integrity.

                So yep, I do judge people by whatever actions or decisions they make as I believe in each's potential to be whoever they want to be, rather than doom and gloom stories, whether blessings or curses.

                And I expect others to do the same towards me...

                To sum up (warning: crude language ahead) ...

                If you don't want others to call you a whore, don't act like a whore.

                (nothing against whores, really)
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            • Profile picture of the author Jeff Henshaw
              I just wish that my avitar was misleading.

              Going back to the original post:

              Say someone has an avatar of them in a brand new Ferrari and in reality they are no where near being able to afford a Ferrari.
              Then why not call the police?

              Jeff.
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            • Profile picture of the author Sirius Lin
              I don't know about you guys, but on this forum where most of us who have avatars put up photos of ourselves (unless you are intentionally misleading us with a photo that isn't of you!), if someone comes on with a bikini girl avatar, I'd think twice about what his/her post has to contribute to the overall thread.

              Or maybe it's just the feminist in me not wanting to see women objectified

              ~ Sirius
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              • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
                Originally Posted by Sirius Lin View Post

                I don't know about you guys, but on this forum where most of us who have avatars put up photos of ourselves (unless you are intentionally misleading us with a photo that isn't of you!), if someone comes on with a bikini girl avatar, I'd think twice about what his/her post has to contribute to the overall thread.

                Or maybe it's just the feminist in me not wanting to see women objectified

                ~ Sirius
                I know what you're saying. I don't care if someone chooses an avatar of themselves or something else, but for people who put up avatars of certain body parts, I can't take them seriously.
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                • Profile picture of the author Treece
                  I'm certainly no prude, but run a business with my two teen daughters. They see what's on my screen, and frankly I prefer not to see scantily clad, provocative women on a business forum. In this environment, I find it disrespectful. On a social site, I don't give a darn.
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            • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
              Wait,

              is it allowed to have a tiger as an avatar?!

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              • Profile picture of the author Alexandre Valois
                I think you should at least dress him up a bit ...
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                • Profile picture of the author Thomas
                  I never go anywhere without me hat...
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                  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
                    I am actually surprised that so many people got themselves worked up over avatars. I guess Allen has to install a "block this avatar" button under each avatar. How's that for a solution?

                    TomG.

                    PS - If you block my avatar, I'm going to sick Vegas Vince on you!
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                    • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
                      Originally Posted by tommygadget View Post

                      I am actually surprised that so many people got themselves worked up over avatars. I guess Allen has to install a "block this avatar" button under each avatar. How's that for a solution?

                      TomG.

                      PS - If you block my avatar, I'm going to sick Vegas Vince on you!
                      Actually, there are two different parts of this thread, one about someone using picture's that degrade women in order to stimulate interest in posts they make.

                      And yet another one with the theme of we dont care,

                      Personally I like seeing what people look like, (real people) not models in swimsuits, (if I wanted to see that I could get it about anywhere I want)

                      The point here is that we have a growing community of Ladies here and I for one think it is a good thing, sort of balances out the forum nicely.

                      I think we should respect that and we should understand what will happen if this is not discussed, eventually you will have guys in thongs,

                      Trust me, this is not something you want to happen.

                      I say we should keep it clean as far as avatars go, a respectful place where people come to both learn and conduct business.

                      The OP was trying to be polite, and it was not fully understood by all, but we all know what this is about,

                      I dont want to see thongs, on anyone here ok, not my idea of a good time, and if that is what people want they know where to get that just not here.
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            • Profile picture of the author Tristan Bull
              I get your point but at the same time its only an avatar. There isn't that much you can do to mislead people in that short little space. At least not in the marketing sense.

              Maybe on a dating site you could have fake pictures of yourself to increase your "hotness" but I can't think of much negative things an avatar can do for your marketing.
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              • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
                I'M SO SORRY!

                Actually, I'm a beautiful young girl but I'm way too sexy to put my pic up here, so I put on the beard for my photos.
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                • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
                  Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

                  So I put on the beard for my photos.
                  Sorry Kevin... but remove the beard you added... and you're still one ugly chick.

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                  • Profile picture of the author Adrianne_
                    I think members have a tendancy to identify or relate with the people they're chatting it up with. In most cases, we try to "guess" what type of person they are based on the avatar they chose and see if it matches the way they post. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. But it does give a little bit of insight to who we are. Does it matter what they chose? Not really but it does make it easier to locate them online.
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                • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
                  Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

                  I'M SO SORRY!

                  Actually, I'm a beautiful young girl but I'm way too sexy to put my pic up here, so I put on the beard for my photos.
                  Yes, a beautiful young girl named Kevin

                  It's just a form of expression to me. This thread is making me wonder what I should put as my avatar, or if I'm even going to use one.
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                • Profile picture of the author Thomas
                  Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

                  I'M SO SORRY!

                  Actually, I'm a beautiful young girl but I'm way too sexy to put my pic up here, so I put on the beard for my photos.
                  Are you a 16-year-old blonde girl?
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            • Profile picture of the author Carl Henry
              Hi guys!

              I really like to see what people look like particularly as this is a forum where (potentially) money will change hands.

              You can tell a lot from someone's face and it is also very nice to be able to write back to Dear [your name] rather than "Xbolby" or some thing similar.

              But ultimately as has been said it isn't the biggest problem on forums.

              On the original point regarding miss-representation, if that is the clear aim (to suggest that the offering has produced major success) and it has not I believe that is wrong. If it is done in an aspirational way (visualisation of goal) then hopefully this would be made clear one-way-or-the-other.

              Best wishes,
              Carl Henry
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        • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
          Originally Posted by Josh Anderson View Post

          I am sure you are not really a:


          I wonder if this is what hell feels like? Posting something stupid to the WF and nobody being able to let it go. :^)

          And how the hell do you know if I'm not an atomic bomb? Atom bombs are tied into the internet too you know.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
    Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

    Say someone has an avatar of them in a brand new Ferrari and in reality they are no where near being able to afford a Ferrari.
    It could be an expression of a goal or a dream rather than a reflection of their current reality.
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  • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
    Steve. You promised you would never put my pic on the forum dude. WTF? I only got that drunk that one time and things got a little out of control. That chicks make up bag blew up on my face and... oh nevermind.
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Is it a misleading avatar though?...

      To guess someone's intentions from a picture posted is a bit far stretched to say the least..

      We have absolutely no way on earth of knowing the reason WHY someone would post a specific picture...unless they say so..

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    • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
      Cool idea. I think I'll take a picture of me in my Ferrari and use it
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  • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
    Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

    I saw one avatar for one member that I believe misrepresented that individual and looked more like just a way to get attention.
    I know what you mean. Allen's new avatar really pissed me off too.

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  • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
    Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

    My point is only this...if you're avatar has nothing to do with you or your product and purely exists to entice people that would otherwise ignore you, should you take it down?
    LOL... just noticed your forum username.

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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

      LOL... just noticed your forum username.

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      LOL.... now that's ironic...

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      • Profile picture of the author ExRat
        Hi,

        Personally I'm more likely to have a little more trust for someone who appears to 'show themselves.'

        For example, mo-fo does all night vid-casts of himself getting lathered and doing various other things in shorter videos. He puts himself out there and he claims that this increases his sales. I believe him.

        Neither way is right or wrong, but I think it makes a difference - and I reckon you can tell that by the posts that people make.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        It is interesting to me that four people made posts about what an avatar "should" be.

        By all means, have the avatar on your profile that is as you think it "should" be - and allow others to determine their own "shoulds".

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  • Profile picture of the author giveusallfreedom
    LMAO, seriously the only reason I posted this was because I was tired and got aggravated that I went to the profile based on the avatar even though I should known better. I sincerely thought this post would die a slow painful death like it's topic deserved. In fact I immediately fell asleep after posting it and after waking back up and remembering what I did I personally went out and beat my own @$$ for posting it.

    Please...Please...Please just let the post die. Of all the posts I've made, this is the one that won't die. Now I just feel like an idiot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Keith Goodrum
    OK, I apologize if my avatar caused this much trouble.

    It's been taken down...



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    • Profile picture of the author Adeel_Chowdhry
      I woke up with a bid of a headache today...not sure what the problem is...

      -AC
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      • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
        Originally Posted by Adeel_Chowdhry View Post

        I woke up with a bid of a headache today...not sure what the problem is...

        -AC

        LOL... I like it Adeel

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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Standerline
    Originally Posted by giveusallfreedom View Post

    Personally, I really don't care what you have as an avatar. Mine's a freaking atomic bomb blast for crying out loud. Who am I to judge?

    That being said, I saw one avatar for one member that I believe misrepresented that individual and looked more like just a way to get attention. Here's a hypothetical situation. Say someone has an avatar of them in a brand new Ferrari and in reality they are no where near being able to afford a Ferrari.

    We're in a marketing forum and we sell products to each other. So...

    Is it false advertising?
    Is it unethical?
    Should they change their avatar?

    For the record the situation is purely hypothetical. The avatar in question has nothing to do with car. My point is only this...if you're avatar has nothing to do with you or your product and purely exists to entice people that would otherwise ignore you, should you take it down?

    What's your thoughts?
    To be blunt, I think folks should and probably do have better things to think of or worry about than another person's avatar.

    I seriously considered putting a picci of Pamela Anderson on mine, does that make me devious, or does it make me wish I looked a bit more like her. (I don't I hasten to add).

    Point is, who cares what avatar you're using as long as its decent.

    Kim
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