Having extreme difficulty finding a niche

by D3lit3
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I keep second-guessing myself and wondering if I will buy a domain and do all the work for nothing. Does anyone has a suggestion on HOW to find a niche? More specifically, what constitutes as a niche? I mean I can go for TV, TV speakers, or Toshiba TV speakers. How far do you go?

Don't get me wrong, I've looked all around Amazon and while it is nice to browse it does not help at all. I've also used the keywords tool and PR rating to analyze every single niche I find because something is always wrong with it.

Example: I go into the Pet Supplies section. I choose cats. Do I stop here? Let's say I do. So I have cat supplies. Keyword tools shows 3500 exact searches with high competition. Obviously I move on since it's a high comp right?

Moving on. I go deeper, so next on the list is cat cages. I use the keyword tool to analyze. 2500 exact searches with high competition. Obviously, I back off and go deeper. Ok, so we have the Merry products pet cage. Using broad search, google shows 2500 broad searches with high competition, and 390 exact with high comp as well. I say heck no because 390 exact searches it way too low, right?

And I'm back to square one. Having narrowed my idea all the way down to pet cages, I have to backtrack because pet cages with 100-500 exact searches a month will convert into nothing, right?

And this happens with every other single niche in the pet supplies department. First it's too broad with high competition, then branded exact searches which are dominated by the official company website, and then comes the micro-sub niche which I cannot take since it yields too little searches. So when is my time to jump in?

Can someone just guide me on how to find a niche specifically and not that "go on Amazon" thing that the 3 WSOs I bought have offered? They just tell me to go to the best sellers in each category but all the best sellers have high competition already and brand-name websites.

This gets me so frustrated because it's like I can't complete step one even. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author bestIMtools
    Here's a good article about it:
    How To Find a Profitable Niche Market When You're CLUELESS | PotPieGirl.com

    All in all, you will have to start somewhere. Trial and error is the only way to learn how to find profitable niches. Wish you the best!
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    • Profile picture of the author D3lit3
      Originally Posted by bestIMtools View Post

      All in all, you will have to start somewhere. Trial and error is the only way to learn how to find profitable niches. Wish you the best!
      Hey, thanks for that. I appreciate the girls honesty but I still do not get the process per se. She tells us to go look at magazines. That's exactly what I did, I went to magazines com into the accounting section. The number one bestseller in that category was 'Accountant'. I google keyword search "how to become an accountant". 3000 exact searches with high competition.

      Magazines don't seem to help either.
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    you need to have a open mind...

    ie. not all the niche you find is always a winner...out of 10 niche, if you can get about 5 winner would be very good...if you keep thinking of wanting to find a straight winner, then you are bound to give up soon
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    • Profile picture of the author D3lit3
      Originally Posted by owenlee View Post

      you need to have a open mind...

      ie. not all the niche you find is always a winner...out of 10 niche, if you can get about 5 winner would be very good...if you keep thinking of wanting to find a straight winner, then you are bound to give up soon
      Hi, well I try to to!

      I mean, I don't mind finding a niche and it not working out, as long as there is a chance in the website generating traffic. I can't even start failing is what I'm trying to say. How did you find your niche?
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  • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
    Here are some clues. Let's see how good you are with Google:

    * long tail keywords
    * allinurl
    * allintitle
    * forget the competition column entirely

    Now ask questions.

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    • Profile picture of the author JaynKeth
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      Here are some clues. Let's see how good you are with Google:

      * long tail keywords
      * allinurl
      * allintitle
      * forget the competition column entirely

      Now ask questions.

      -- j
      Agree forget about the keyword competition when you are finding niche
      High competition = lots of buyer

      Only research for keyword when you are optimizing your site to be found on search engine!
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      Stay consistent and FOCUS!
      This is the best system to succeed in internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tevis Verrett
    Lemme weigh in D, and hopefully I will give you clarity, vs muddying the waters.

    You need to sell what you like, so pick that first.

    Then go to Google Trends

    and find something relatively new, and that also has an uptrend, then SEO like maad and ride the wave.

    An alternative is to crawl my websites. Find something that trips your trigger, get in touch with Summer (my gorgeous chat diva) and join the inner circle of the K2 Family.

    See y'all on the other side!

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    • Profile picture of the author D3lit3
      Hey Tevis,

      Alright, done! Google trends tells me Jeremy Lin the basketball player is hot.

      keyword tool finds:

      823,000 exact searches, wow!

      So am I set? Have I found my niche? If I create a jeremy lin products dot com site can it potentially profit? Or is something incorrect? I can't really see an amazon affiliate jeremy lin website making crazy profit from selling jerseys...

      Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author payment proof
    Decide on your interest and then look at other sites and what they are doing. Find something that other sites are not currently offering or something you could do better, and exploit that as you niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author michaeldoring
    Originally Posted by D3lit3 View Post

    I keep second-guessing myself and wondering if I will buy a domain and do all the work for nothing...

    Does anyone has a suggestion on HOW to find a niche? More specifically, what constitutes as a niche?

    I say heck no because 390 exact searches it way too low, right?

    And I'm back to square one. Having narrowed my idea all the way down to pet cages, I have to backtrack because pet cages with 100-500 exact searches a month will convert into nothing, right?

    Can someone just guide me on how to find a niche specifically...
    Easiest question answered first, 100-500 exact searches is good: if you get into the top 3 for that keyword you can expect maybe 250 visitors a month for just that keyword. And even if you focus on a single keyword, you'll likely rank on the first page for broader terms that include your keyword/s... therefore you can expect decent traffic. I say anything over 100 exact searches is worth at least a 500 word article and $20 in SEO.

    what constitutes as a niche? a niche focuses on a specific product or grouped of related products.

    When it comes to finding a niche I suggest the following tips:
    • Don't go too narrow or too broad i.e. don't create a whole website on a canon camera mp614, but don't go to broad and create a website on shopping.
    • have you brought anything online? think about why you brought it, will many other people buy that same thing?
    • you might think the big niches are too hard to crack, but you'll be suprised at how you can score traffic to a website abour say parental control software
    • don't pigeon whole yourself, i created a 100 page website, and only a few webpage's bring in the good dollars $$$... I recommend creating at least a 30 page website, and promote at least a dozen products in your niche
    • I would walk into your local newspaper (magazine shop) and look around, that is the perfect place to find niches...
    • even watching TV might inspire you... you might see a topic trending... or you can get a lot of ideas by watching those day time/late night infomercials that sell products...
    • Google trends, Amazon, Clickbank, etc...
    • Search for people professing to be in a profitable niche, if you find enough webpages/forum comments that say a particular niche is profitable, it probably is...
    • make sure it is a niche that is based on the answers to this question "what drives a person to buy"...
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