Article syndication here I come....But first

Banned 12 years ago

1. Welcome to the club.

2. Good so far.

3. Correct. To go about doing it, I choose to converse with the site owner about the site itself, how I found it, and how I feel my content can enhance their user's experience. I don't personally include an article in that first email; but I know of plenty of others who do. Test for yourself.

My links come at the end of the article, and I haven't had a situation come up yet where it wasn't understood that having that link was my benefit for giving them that piece to syndicate.

As far as how to introduce that link, I recommend making it something that naturally flows with the preceding article. I gave this example regarding an imaginary alien invasion article in another thread:

"Fakey McFakerson has been holding off the alien onslaught for xxx amount of time. To hear more about his trials, or to find out what you can do to help, go here.<<That's the link!

4. I tend to have the link point to my landing page. From time to time I will point to another article; but it isn't often the best option for me. You are completely correct in thinking that you shouldn't point it back to the same article on your site. Who wants to go to a different place to read the same thing?

5. With active syndication, it is understood (at least amongst my partners) that it is more than just a one time deal. I'll send them the content when I have it, and they syndicate it if they think their readers want it.

6. Yep, that is a good last step.

7. The directory of ezines is a good place to start. For my main niche at least, offline publications are another good place to look. Your Google search should be just the starting point really when looking for online partners. In my experience just finding one source and exploring tends to lead to another, and another, and another (and another). It's easier than it seems.

Hope this helps.

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wAvision

12 years ago

two more quick questions....

when you send them the article you keep the body exactly the same, but what about the title of the article?

do you keep it the same as the one for your site?....say you send the article to 25 people to syndicate...do you use the same title for all?

and

what do you do if a webmaster or whoever you are sending the article to comes back and says that they have found this article on the internet already and that it is duplicate content...etc...

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MikeTucker

12 years ago

Originally Posted by wAvision

two more quick questions....

when you send them the article you keep the body exactly the same, but what about the title of the article?

do you keep it the same as the one for your site?....say you send the article to 25 people to syndicate...do you use the same title for all?

and

what do you do if a webmaster or whoever you are sending the article to comes back and says that they have found this article on the internet already and that it is duplicate content...etc...

Yes, keep the titles the same.

If someone says it is duplicate content,
personally I just move on. I'm not in the
business of teaching them the truth about
that particular subject.

I learned from Paul (myob) that the goal
is to get 5 new outlets per day. I have
found that to be a reasonable and very
"do-able" goal. When someone says "No"
I say "Next". I never let it bother me
if they don't accept my content for any
reason, and I don't bother debating the
point at all.

I would like to reiterate Joe's point about
using the Directory of Ezines, which is a
superb resource. If you care to market
yourself offline as well you will find a great
many opportunities and tons of really
great resources similar to the DOE.

Remember, the strategy is not to get
a lot of articles all over the place-- It is
to build relationships with publishers so
that they come to look forward to your
submissions. That is the key.

Congratulations, by the way...
You've made a great choice.
Stick to it, and ask questions when
you get stuck. There are a lot of
people here that are more than happy
to help!

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by wAvision

when you send them the article you keep the body exactly the same, but what about the title of the article?

I keep that the same, too.

(I put a lot of work into article titles - they matter.)

Originally Posted by wAvision

what do you do if a webmaster or whoever you are sending the article to comes back and says that they have found this article on the internet already and that it is duplicate content...etc...

It almost never happens to me.

If I bother, I'd probably explain in a friendly and tactful manner (yes, I can do that, sometimes, if I really try) that it isn't duplicate content at all (i.e. it would be "syndicated content", and what that signifies), and then point out (also as tactfully as I possibly can, and not in these words at all!) that that has absolutely nothing to do with anything mentioned in my email to them, that it doesn't detract from the fact that I thought their readers/subscribers/traffic will find this article particularly relevant to them because (repeating stuff already said), and so on. But not so much if they're just saying "no": I won't be offering them any free unpublished content, however much they might want it. Not as a syndicated article and not as "guest blogging", either.

Maybe comparatively few people with the sort of websites I want my articles to be syndicated to are going to get confused about what "duplicate content" means ... or maybe the wording of my original email to them has dissuaded them from taking that line? Not sure. It would be an odd sort of webmaster who didn't want an article on his website just because it had already been published somewhere else, though, wouldn't it? Those seem to be good enough for thousands of the world's most famous news websites, after all. :confused:

Of course, there are some who never reply at all, and it's always possible that they might be in the dark about what "duplicate content" is, I suppose.

By the way, I agree with everything Joe and Mike said above, needless to say. I tried to "thank" a post earlier, but it looks like that didn't go through, and the forum's pages are loading so slowly for me at the moment that I didn't fancy trying it again ...

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by wAvision

two more quick questions....

when you send them the article you keep the body exactly the same, but what about the title of the article?

do you keep it the same as the one for your site?....say you send the article to 25 people to syndicate...do you use the same title for all?

I keep everything the same. The work I produce is art (:rolleyes::p), you wouldn't go drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa to make it seem "unique" would you?

Originally Posted by wAvision

what do you do if a webmaster or whoever you are sending the article to comes back and says that they have found this article on the internet already and that it is duplicate content...etc...

I do this,

<<(My new favorite smiley) and then back away slowly. I tried explaining duplicate content to a few; but then realize I partake in enough of those battles on here. I don't need to have that conversation during my work time as well.

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MikeTucker

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

I keep everything the same. The work I produce is art (:rolleyes::p), you wouldn't go drawing a mustache on the Mona Lisa to make it seem "unique" would you?

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jeremysteam

12 years ago

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Looks like you have the right idea, I would do more than just that though.

Turn your article into a video, into an audio, into a PDF, into a Slide show and share them at all those directory sites as well.

Turn 1 piece of content into many, thats where its at!

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MikeTucker

12 years ago

I would hope that you agree with
a lot of what I say, seeing as how
I learned most of it from you, LOL

...Yeah, forum is slow today for
everyone. It's the Internet's way
of saying we should all be out
working on those projects we
keep meaning to complete!

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JohnMcCabe

12 years ago

Originally Posted by wAvision

two more quick questions....

when you send them the article you keep the body exactly the same, but what about the title of the article?

do you keep it the same as the one for your site?....say you send the article to 25 people to syndicate...do you use the same title for all?

Yes, the same title every time. As Alexa said, titles are important.

That said, when I'm acting as publisher rather than author, I will use a good article with a weak title. But I'll add my own title for the post along with a short intro before posting the article as is.

Originally Posted by wAvision

what do you do if a webmaster or whoever you are sending the article to comes back and says that they have found this article on the internet already and that it is duplicate content...etc...

I agree that it's quite possible that they found the article on the Internet already. I tell them that there's no penalty for syndicating content that improves their users' experience, something the SEs have been vocal about. Then I tell them that it's their site, and their audience. If they still want to publish the article, great. If not, no harm, no foul and have a great life...

There are very few outlets that offer enough return in terms of real eyeballs to garner unique content from me. And even fewer that could have it on a regular basis.

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wAvision

12 years ago

thanks everyone....

when you are initially contacting these sites to ask if you can provide content for them, do you specifically say in exchange for a link back to my site at the end of the article?

or do you just sent the article in an email and have the <a href tag at the end and hope they do not say anything?

sorry for the noob questions, just like to do stuff right...

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JohnMcCabe 12 years ago

I just put the link in the resource box and send it. If they have a problem with that?

Then I tell them that it's their site, and their audience. If they still want to publish the article, great. If not, no harm, no foul and have a great life...

Life's too short, and there are too many other outlets, to worry about the ones that want something for nothing.
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MikeTucker

12 years ago

Never feel you have to apologize when
asking important questions. Helping
each other is the reason that half of
us troll this place!

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lizmoneyweb

12 years ago

With this plenty of input, I think I might invest in article syndication as well. Thanks for sharing.

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wAvision

12 years ago

when you say you put a link in the resource box...what exactly do you mean?

its my thought that i send the article in the email with a sentence at the end pointing to my site...

for example..

article article article

article article article

article article article

For more infomation on...visit...

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by wAvision

when you say you put a link in the resource box...what exactly do you mean?

its my thought that i send the article in the email with a sentence at the end pointing to my site...

for example..

article article article

article article article

article article article

For more infomation on...visit...

It's the same thing. Resource box is a popular way to characterize it because on a directory like EZA (where passive syndication occurs) the resource box is where you would be allowed to put that link.

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wAvision

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

It's the same thing. Resource box is a popular way to characterize it because on a directory like EZA (where passive syndication occurs) the resource box is where you would be allowed to put that link.

Yep, gotcha...i knew that about EZA, just wanted to clarify i was not missing something when sending to sites... thanks

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JohnMcCabe

12 years ago

Originally Posted by wAvision

when you say you put a link in the resource box...what exactly do you mean?

its my thought that i send the article in the email with a sentence at the end pointing to my site...

for example..

article article article

article article article

article article article

For more infomation on...visit...

Resource box, bio box, author bio, byline, lots of terms for it that all mean pretty much the same thing.

I just grabbed one of my wife's magazines that I noticed was using a lot more syndicated content than I thought they would. Many of those had something like "Originally appeared on Suzy Homemaker's [title] blog at [url]" or "Suzy Homemaker shares more info in her weekly newsletter at [url]".

I'll take those all day long.

If I can, I'll use two links. One with anchor text and one naked url. Using your example, it would look like:

For more information on [anchor text], visit [url]...

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AnniePot 12 years ago

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wAvision

12 years ago

Started contacting site owners lastnight with what little time i had...i think i filled out 7 or 8 contact us forms...no responses yet....

So of the sites were ones that sell a lot of products, but have a blog or article section, and the only contact us place was for what seemed to be customer service..asking if i was a customer and reason for ticket etc...

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by wAvision

Started contacting site owners lastnight with what little time i had...i think i filled out 7 or 8 contact us forms...no responses yet....

I have never tried this way and perhaps therefore shouldn't comment, but I have to say I wouldn't fancy it at all, myself.

I would instinctively think you have far better chances with an email?

Originally Posted by wAvision

the only contact us place was for what seemed to be customer service..asking if i was a customer and reason for ticket etc...

Not wanting to sound off-putting, at all, but for myself I don't expect much of a response from people who may see me as a competitor. Sending email to "info" or "admin" at theirdomain.com normally reaches someone. Many people have a catch-all email, anyway (though this also has its downside) in which case an email sent to "anyone" at theirdomain.com will find them at home.
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wAvision

12 years ago

Yeah, I sent a few to email addresses as well....thanks for all the info guys...i am sure i will have more questions once i get started....

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