Amazon Back in Illinois ?

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Doing some work, listening to the radio and couldn't believe what I just heard.

Sounds like the Illinois Courts (supreme?) declared Gov. Quinn's Amazon Affiliate Law/Ban illegal !!!!!

Not sure if that means Amazon will allow affiliates soon or if it will be a protracted court battle.

You have to live in Illinois to believe how idiotic our governing has been. Of course Rod Blogovich, last governor is in prison for the next 14 years, they should have saved gas and let Quinn ride with him.

The media doesn't report any of this. People are leaving Illinois left and right. Property taxes are higher than mortgages. Property values have shrunk, payroll taxes massively increased, any tax that exists in Illinois has increased. Business taxes were almost doubled and businesses simply move to Wisconsin or Indiana or elsewhere.

Of course if your corporation is large enough you'll get a special break on all taxes just to keep you in Illinois. You'd think they would get the concept in that one sentence.

Anyway, I'd be really excited to see Amazon back in Illinois. The few commentators I've heard discuss the issue of booting out Amazon and the huge loss of business in Illinois might be heard in the other states..... that is, they might come to realize how damaging it is to place a tax or raise a tax..... it does nothing to motivate and increase business.

So .....if you're the praying type, send some prayers our way....I'd love to be able to use my shoebox full of amazon scripts
#amazon #back #illinois
  • Profile picture of the author UpNorthGuy
    You sure this wasn't some kind of happy dream?
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    • Profile picture of the author nubchai
      I completely agree with Scott. Illinois is incredibly mismanaged. Quinn's attempt to get Amazon to collect sales tax was short-sighted at best. Illinois is very business unfriendly - especially toward smaller businesses. As soon as a larger brick and mortar business threatens to leave they get a sweet deal to stay.

      I suspect Quinn and the state will appeal the decision. But I love the judgement.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneywar
    Illinois sure does have some problems. Politicians of Illinois play and have played by
    God only knows what rules for to long. This Amazon thing is based on Illinois not get
    there due money, as they see it. This comes from the same group that then turns around
    and raises taxes on cigarettes, yet again, then follows up with how many programs they
    will have to cut if they don’t get what they want. Of course never cut the programs that
    8 year old can see is are a waste. No, they go for schools and health care. It has always
    worked in the past, why not now. I know people that live in the Chicago land area who do
    IM in an effort to leave the state. It is insane just how far that state goes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
    ScottParat said:"You have to live in Illinois to believe how idiotic our governing has been. Of course Rod Blogovich, last governor is in prison for the next 14 years, they should have saved gas and let Quinn ride with him."

    Nubchai said: I completely agree with Scott. Illinois is incredibly mismanaged. Quinn's attempt to get Amazon to collect sales tax was short-sighted at best. Illinois is very business unfriendly - especially toward smaller businesses

    Moneywar said: Illinois sure does have some problems. Politicians of Illinois play and have played by God only knows what rules for to long.

    ALL TRUE....only it's worse than that. Illinois is starting to be known as the armpit of the Midwest. The political class in IL may be the most corrupt in the country, and that's really saying something.

    50% of the last 8 governors have gone to prison! (see below)

    Third highest state deficit, largest recent income tax increase, highest recent toll raod increase, most governors currently serving prison sentences...

    Since the 1970's, Illinois has had 8 governors. Four of these governors have gone to prison on charges related to corruption...a fifth, William Stratton was tried for tax evasion but acquitted.

    IL is competing with California for leadership in the 'financial collapse' category. Even if they reverse the stupid Amazon actions, they are a lost cause.

    ...And to the OP's original question, yes, the State of Illinois will appeal this as high as they can go, since it makes Governor Quinn and the legislature look weak not to. I'll bet Amazon will not jump to re-admit affiliates until more court hearings and rulings.
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    Bruce
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    • Profile picture of the author rts2271
      Moved from Springfield in 2006, watched my income double, my costs halved and I do not deal with a corrupt population, corrupt politic or corrupt policemen anymore. I gained about 30k my first year in personal income ./ costs spread with no changes other than the state. Better schools, better gun laws, a more ethical population, better food, cleaner air, cleaner water, women in bikinis 8 months out of the year, southern hospitality and awesome roads.
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  • Profile picture of the author Green Moon
    Back to the original question, it is unlikely that Amazon will start accepting Illinois affiliates any time soon. The decision was by a Cook County Circuit Court judge. Indications I have seen are that the state will appeal the judge's decision.

    With recent agreements that Amazon has signed to start collecting sales tax by 2014 in states like Texas and California, I think that eventually Amazon will be collecting sales taxes in most if not all states even if Congress fails to act to create a uniform law to govern states' sales taxes on internet sales.

    In the meantime, I am not holding my breath to see Amazon taking Illinois affiliates back into the fold.
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    • Profile picture of the author scapula
      October 7, 2013 version
      "In addition, if at any time following your enrollment in the Program you become a resident of Arkansas, Colorado, Illinois, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, North Carolina, or Rhode Island, you will become ineligible to participate in the Program, and this Operating Agreement will automatically terminate, on the date you establish residency in that state. In addition, you must promptly notify us in writing of your Arkansas, Colorado, Illinois, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, North Carolina, or Rhode Island residency, which you may do via the Contact Associates Customer Service form available here."
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    From what I understand, Amazon could reinstate Illinois affiliates. They have just chosen not to.
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