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Is PLR too good to be true

by Nathan251
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lots of PLR resources out there

so is the process as simple as this

1. get free plr in your niche

2. offer it as an incentive to get people to sign up to your list

or

1. get free plr

2. edit/rewrite it a bit

3. get loads of articles for your site/web 2.0 properties/ebook

Is it that simple?

Why isn't everybody doing it?

one last thing i want to ask is about public domain works, I know that amazon frown on plr (but if it is rewritten surely they can't detect it), but imagine I find a public domian work, simply format it for kindle and get an e-book straight up there, even if it only sells a tiny bit, then I am still making a little profit for almost zero effort and zero investment

also how do i check if my public domain book hasn't been sold already by someone else?


any clarification appreciated
#good #plr #true
  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

    Is it that simple?
    Not quite, usually. It's not impossible, but it's also not much of a business model.

    Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

    Why isn't everybody doing it?
    Huge numbers of people try it; I think possibly a few do succeed.

    Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

    2. offer it as an incentive to get people to sign up to your list
    Not inconceivable, but the reality is that it's very much a second-best idea because what you're missing out on, that way, is something very important: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6064741

    In other words, you might manage to build a list, that way, but it's probably not going to be a valuable list, and the more experience people have, the more they'll typically advise against it.

    Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

    3. get loads of articles for your site/web 2.0 properties/ebook
    What you're possibly missing out on, that way, to some extent, is "quality". But again, it's not impossible.

    If you'll excuse the observation, I think it's all "not such a great idea", for one very fundamental reason: where you're coming from here, is "how can I make money out of free material?", rather than "how can I provide people with value?" And the realities of internet marketing are that in the long run that may well stack the deck against you, a little. Or maybe even more than a little. One approach relates to building a real business, but the other usually relates to no more than some small amounts of fast cash (and that's when it works), i.e. not really a "business" at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nathan251
      Yes, I understand the point that a lot of PLR is garbage but believe it or not, some of it is actually ok and I have benefitted from reading some plr that I have received so if the stuff was of high enough quality I would have no scruples about using it as an incentive to get people to sign up to my list


      my main query with plr is how do i know how often the plr product i choose to offer has been used, i know the "make money online" niche is the most common plr content so how would I know that I am NOT offering something that has been offered by many others in the same niche?

      Essentially is there any way to find out how unique my plr is? i.e. it's only been made available on 50 sites/pages rather than 50,000 sites/pages

      thanks for guidance
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

        I have benefitted from reading some plr that I have received so if the stuff was of high enough quality I would have no scruples about using it as an incentive to get people to sign up to my list
        Be aware that people recommending that you use re-hashed PLR - regardless of its quality - for this purpose have sometimes not quite realized that the primary purpose of the "free report" is to maximise the open-rate and degree of attention their subsequent emails receive, by making sure there's continuity in the process. Some marketers will just throw in something different, that isn't part of their process at all, in-between the opt-in and their email series. And then they wonder why so many people don't open their emails. :rolleyes:

        Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

        Essentially is there any way to find out how unique my plr is? i.e. it's only been made available on 50 sites/pages rather than 50,000 sites/pages
        Yes - buy only very good PLR from a trusted, respected, ethical seller with an impeccable reputation, who's also a particularly good writer. View Profile: TiffanyDow and View Profile: Tina Golden are both very good starting places, and there are many others, here, too.
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    • Profile picture of the author cashcow
      Sure, you can use PLR in all the ways you mention. There is actually some really good PLR out there for this purpose. One membership has everything you need - the website (a blog actually) complete with graphics, the articles, the ebook (very high quality), the sales letter and even an auto responder email course. That membership is Niche Profit Classroom 4.0 - one of the best I have found.

      BUT, the thing is that it really isn't that easy because the one thing that no PLR can provide you with is the traffic. You still need to generate the traffic somehow and thats really the hard part of any business.


      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      If you'll excuse the observation, I think it's all "not such a great idea", for one very fundamental reason: where you're coming from here, is "how can I make money out of free material?", rather than "how can I provide people with value?" And the realities of internet marketing are that in the long run that may well stack the deck against you, a little. Or maybe even more than a little. One approach relates to building a real business, but the other usually relates to no more than some small amounts of fast cash (and that's when it works), i.e. not really a "business" at all.
      As usual, Alexa makes a keen observation - you are approaching this with the wrong mindset.

      one last thing i want to ask is about public domain works, I know that amazon frown on plr (but if it is rewritten surely they can't detect it), but imagine I find a public domian work, simply format it for kindle and get an e-book straight up there, even if it only sells a tiny bit, then I am still making a little profit for almost zero effort and zero investment.
      You can put public domain works on the kindle but you must differentiate it by at least 20%. So you need to add text in there or pictures or whatever. Something that makes it different than the original, otherwise we would all be doing this. Even then, they may not accept yours (and I think they may price it at $0 sometimes too) if there are already too many of the same public domain book up there.

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      • Profile picture of the author Nathan251
        Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

        You can put public domain works on the kindle but you must differentiate it by at least 20%. So you need to add text in there or pictures or whatever. Something that makes it different than the original, otherwise we would all be doing this. Even then, they may not accept yours (and I think they may price it at $0 sometimes too) if there are already too many of the same public domain book up there.
        just a few questions on this last point if i may

        1. is it not I who decide the price?

        2. I wasn't aware of the 20% differentiation requirement (incidentally i think it's a good idea) - does that rule also apply to plr i.e. if one is to sell PLR on Amazon or Clickbank or wherever then 20% differentiation is the minimum requirement - i thought they just frowned on PLR period

        3. Lastly I would be grateful if you pointed me in the right direction to where I might find the full set of requirements as I don't want to work on material for a while and then be told it doesn't meet their qualifying requirements.

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        • Profile picture of the author cashcow
          Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

          just a few questions on this last point if i may

          1. is it not I who decide the price?
          Public domain has different rules than unique stuff. I'm not really familiar with all of them but one is that you can only get 35% royalty and I think another is that they will lower the price if a similar work is priced lower. I could be wrong about that.

          I know for unique books the kindle price has to be the lowest price that book is sold for anywhere. They have bots that go out and check pricing and the price of your book is automatically lowered if it is found being sold at a cheaper price.

          Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

          2. I wasn't aware of the 20% differentiation requirement (incidentally i think it's a good idea) - does that rule also apply to plr i.e. if one is to sell PLR on Amazon or Clickbank or wherever then 20% differentiation is the minimum requirement - i thought they just frowned on PLR period
          They hate PLR, if you even look at a PLR book while you are thinking about publishing on kindle they somehow find out and ban your account. Seriously, they have some weird sixth sense about it. No PLR is allowed in any form.

          Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

          3. Lastly I would be grateful if you pointed me in the right direction to where I might find the full set of requirements as I don't want to work on material for a while and then be told it doesn't meet their qualifying requirements.
          here you go:

          https://kdp.amazon.com/self-publishing/help
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    • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      "how can I provide people with value?"
      That's where I found the power of really good PLR. Start by working out what problem you are trying to solve (including whether it is worth your while solving) and then find a way to provide the answer.

      I have a health and fitness site and had people constantly asking me about certain exercises to achieve different results. I then looked for PLR videos and guides that could be packaged to solve that problem which saved me time and gave me a much better product than what I could otherwise afford to commission. I used this PLR as a lead generator to get people into my sales funnel and it went from there.

      Uniquness of the PLR doesn't really come into play if you are using it to solve a problem. If the reader has already come across the PLR and it didn't solve the problem then it maybe because they PLR you chose to answer that problem is poor to begin with.
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    True is that it's really easy to do, but not everybody doing it because it looks so simple Most of people think that:

    simple = no/little money
    hard = big money

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      The reason you don't see more people making a killing with PLR is the same reason that you see far more people making very little than you do those making huge amounts. It all boils down to one little four letter word.

      WORK.

      Most people try using PLR, pretty much the way you stated, and realize that it didn't get very good results. Instead of figuring out what they might have done wrong, they come to the erroneous conclusion that PLR doesn't work.

      You need to be creative with PLR, to use it to its maximum potential. Most people want a push-button solution so they just use the PLR as is, which is pretty much the worst way to use it, unless you are selling it to others as PLR.
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  • Profile picture of the author BridgetSielicki
    You can use PLR to entice people to sign up to your list, but you do need to add something to it that will make people actually want it. Alexa is right, you have to add value to whatever you do. Also be aware that there will be people who sign up just to get the freebie and they aren't really interested in whatever else you have to offer.

    Using PLR is a great start, but really you can only use it as a starting point for any business. Most people don't succeed with it because by itself, it won't bring in the money. Use it as a base and work to build up around it, and you have a much greater chance of success.
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