Problem with WSO Review Version...

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I would welcome your thoughts on my little conundrum, please.

I bought a review copy of a WSO, the deal being, of course, that I leave a review.

My problem is that if I leave a review, the seller is not going to be very happy!

Do I do him a favour and just not leave a review?

Or would you go ahead and leave a bad one?

All thoughts welcome.

Thanks

Peter
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  • Profile picture of the author dewasial
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    • Profile picture of the author PatriciaJ
      I think that you should leave an honest review. You paid for it and are under no obligation to give a glowing recommendation, not that you should be anyway even if you got it free. Giving one affects your credibility in the eyes of those who buy and think the product sucks.

      You could perhaps contact the seller privately and outline where you think improvements could be made first. If you are right then that feedback could help the seller. If he ignores you then leave your feedback on the thread. If you are right other buyers will say the same and that might help stop people wasting their money. Other buyers might disagree with you so your opinion may do no harm.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Leave a review! Don't let the discount stop you from telling the truth. The point of allowing reviews is so potential buyers know what they are buying.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    What AmandaT and PatriciaT said and...

    ...before you do anything make sure you are qualified to leave a review. Essentially, you may in fact be new to the content or purpose of the offer and not realize positive from negative. After all, you are referring to your opinion, rather than a "qualified" opinion.

    Here is what I see in your post. Based on your opinion of the offer you would leave a negative review. However, you do not explain why you think the offer is negative. That would be based on research and experience with a similar offer. No research and experience = unqualified opinion.

    In my boardroom I would question you as to why your opinion is negative and if you could not qualify your opinion I would demote you or terminate you for not qualifying your opinion.

    With that said, if you honestly researched the offer and have experience with a similar offer then by all means contact the seller.

    Marketing wise... You could build a better widget and market it yourself


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    • Profile picture of the author Valdor Kiebach
      Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

      In my boardroom I would question you as to why your opinion is negative and if you could not qualify your opinion I would demote you or terminate you for not qualifying your opinion.
      Would you ask people to 'qualify their opinion' if it was positive?

      As to the OP.

      You should leave an honest review, don't feel guilty about it.
      Just mention that you will need to put a bit of time and effort into the system if you want it to work. Maybe anybody can make money with this WSO IF they put the time and effort into it.

      The trouble with most people who buy a WSO that gives a way to make money is that they expexct fairys to do all the work while they do nothing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by Valdor Kiebach View Post

        Would you ask people to 'qualify their opinion' if it was positive?

        As to the OP.

        You should leave an honest review, don't feel guilty about it.
        Just mention that you will need to put a bit of time and effort into the system if you want it to work. Maybe anybody can make money with this WSO IF they put the time and effort into it.

        The trouble with most people who buy a WSO that gives a way to make money is that they expexct fairys to do all the work while they do nothing.
        Yes, but then that is not the question the OP asked about. The OP was concerned about a negative (not positive) review.

        You are temporarily consigned to the chairs against the wall for not contributing anything that has not already been said.

        BTW, the boardroom works like this > Conference table > Wall > Front door.

        Originally Posted by Valdor Kiebach View Post

        Maybe anybody can make money with this WSO IF they put the time and effort into it.
        Your right. Back to the conference table

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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    Simply leave a "Honest review" If you honeslty think it's crap then so be it. He/she proably knows this anyway. Think you might save some poor suckers with their last $15.
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    Whoooa ok Lord Vada....whatever goes! Geeps who'd want a job there?

    In my boardroom I would question you as to why your opinion is negative and if you could not qualify your opinion I would demote you or terminate you for not qualifying your opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author BackLinkiT
      Thank you for your replies everyone. Especially you, Jeffery, you really made me chuckle!

      Let me clarify. The WSO is really well put together and the software, templates and system are superb.

      The problem I have with it is that the seller says that anyone can make money using it, which is garbage.

      If you work full time, cannot make or take calls during the day or attend meetings with potential clients, then this WSO is really not for you.

      The seller does not make this clear...so perhaps I should.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by BackLinkiT View Post

        Thank you for your replies everyone. Especially you, Jeffery, you really made me chuckle!

        Let me clarify. The WSO is really well put together and the software, templates and system are superb.

        The problem I have with it is that the seller says that anyone can make money using it, which is garbage.

        If you work full time, cannot make or take calls during the day or attend meetings with potential clients, then this WSO is really not for you.

        The seller does not make this clear...
        ...and that my friend is exactly what I'd say. I'd re-phrase the garbage comment but you know what I mean.
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        • Profile picture of the author WebPen
          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          ...and that my friend is exactly what I'd say. I'd re-phrase the garbage comment but you know what I mean.
          Exactly- say exactly what you think. Mention that if you can't take phone calls during the day, it will be more difficult.

          I don't know if you should say that it's impossible, since some people can answer their cell phones at work, play with time zone differences, etc. but yeah- definitely give your honest opinions on everything- both the quality of the WSO and if it lives up to the claims on the sales page
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            The WSO is really well put together and the software, templates and system are superb.

            The problem I have with it is that the seller says that anyone can make money using it, which is garbage.
            I think you are off the reservation. It's not the seller's obligation to devise products around imaginary work schedules. If the product is good, say so. That is what you were asked to review.

            You can mention your concern that "anyone can do it" based on the need to do some of the work during daytime business hours. No need to specify what the tasks are.

            The idea that anyone would leave a negative review of a "superb" product based on an interpretation of potential buyers' work schedules - is crazy to me. I'd tell the seller my concern and get his reaction...he might decide to modify that statement.
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            • Profile picture of the author BackLinkiT
              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              I think you are off the reservation. It's not the seller's obligation to devise products around imaginary work schedules. If the product is good, say so. That is what you were asked to review.

              You can mention your concern that "anyone can do it" based on the need to do some of the work during daytime business hours. No need to specify what the tasks are.

              The idea that anyone would leave a negative review of a "superb" product based on an interpretation of potential buyers' work schedules - is crazy to me. I'd tell the seller my concern and get his reaction...he might decide to modify that statement.
              I thought I had clarified that it would not be a negative review, subject to my one reservation about the need to be available during business hours, which I did not feel was clear from the sales page?
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              • Profile picture of the author Woowah
                Hi Peter.

                Surely one aspect of getting people to review any product is to see how the market will respond to the product being offered, including whether there are any potential problem aspects the producer may have overlook when putting the product together.

                The fact that the seller has put out for reviews shows he is willing to hear feedback. From personal experience, I much prefer to hear someone's honest opinion. Otherwise, how else would I know if I was creating the product in the right way?

                Sometimes, all that is needed is a clarification of wording, because when you are writing it is easy to make assumptions on the level of knowledge, experience and familiarity the reader will have. I know I do assume people know what I mean in my head but it doesn't always work out that way.

                So leave an honest but fair review. Don't just flag problems but leave a suggestion or possible solution too, along with the good aspects of the product. People, including the seller, will have more respect for someone who does that rather than just pointing out the problems.

                Just my humble opinion.

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            • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
              The WSO is really well put together and the software, templates and system are superb.
              The problem I have with it is that the seller says that anyone can make money using it, which is garbage.

              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              I think you are off the reservation. It's not the seller's obligation to devise products around imaginary work schedules. If the product is good, say so. That is what you were asked to review.

              You can mention your concern that "anyone can do it" based on the need to do some of the work during daytime business hours. No need to specify what the tasks are.

              The idea that anyone would leave a negative review of a "superb" product based on an interpretation of potential buyers' work schedules - is crazy to me. I'd tell the seller my concern and get his reaction...he might decide to modify that statement.
              The lady will take a seat at the head of the conference table. You all work for her now.

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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by BackLinkiT View Post

        The problem I have with it is that the seller says that anyone can make money using it, which is garbage.

        If you work full time, cannot make or take calls during the day or attend meetings with potential clients, then this WSO is really not for you.
        Having read your comment above though, YOU also need to be realistic about things. You can't expect to make money sitting in your underpants on your couch at home. Well you can, but it's NEVER going to happen.

        No matter what business you decide to do, you are always going to have to put some work in. That's a very well known fact. If you believe you are entitled to make money by doing little to no work then I don't necessarily think that is the product owner misleading you -- I just think that's unrealistic expectations set by you. Does every product owner really have to mention that successful business is about working hard? I don't think so. I would think it's well known to most.

        By all means give them your feedback but I don't really see that as a product owners fault. From what you have mentioned it sounds like anyone could still do that business, they just need to put in some effort and time. Well guess what, that's the same with every single business opportunity. Put in no time and no effort and you get, you guessed it, no results.
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        • Profile picture of the author BackLinkiT
          Originally Posted by WillR View Post

          You can't expect to make money sitting in your underpants on your couch at home. Well you can, but it's NEVER going to happen.
          But the seller of this WSO tells us that's exactly what we can do, Will.

          He says, and I quote, 'Heck, you don't even have to leave the house if you don't want to!'

          I am not frightened of hard work. I work full time in a demanding job and then do 2 or 3 hours each evening online. I had hoped to be able to work on this WSO in the evening but that simply will not work. You need to be on the phone or face to face with clients during office hours. I just think the seller needs to be more up front about that.
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          • Profile picture of the author WillR
            Originally Posted by BackLinkiT View Post

            But the seller of this WSO tells us that's exactly what we can do, Will.

            He says, and I quote, 'Heck, you don't even have to leave the house if you don't want to!'

            :rolleyes:

            I am not frightened of hard work. I work full time in a demanding job and then do 2 or 3 hours each evening online. I had hoped to be able to work on this WSO in the evening but that simply will not work. You need to be on the phone or face to face with clients during office hours. I just think the seller needs to be more up front about that.
            It sounds like you are trying to give me feedback in a very round about way. If it is my product then go to my WSO thread and leave your feedback as suggested above. My response will be exactly what I write above though. There are plenty of offline and Internet Marketers who do not leave the house to conduct their business -- that does NOT mean they do not work hard. Every business requires hard work.

            Anyway, as I said, go to the thread of the product you are referring to and leave your comments there. That's what the WSO threads are there for.
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            • Profile picture of the author BackLinkiT
              Originally Posted by WillR View Post

              It sounds like you are trying to give me feedback in a very round about way. If it is my product then go to my WSO thread and leave your feedback as suggested above. My response will be exactly what I write above though. There are plenty of offline and Internet Marketers who do not leave the house to conduct their business -- that does NOT mean they do not work hard. Every business requires hard work.

              Anyway, as I said, go to the thread of the product you are referring to and leave your comments there. That's what the WSO threads are there for.
              I will and it will be a positive review, Will. But I will say that, realistically, people do need to be available during office hours.

              Putting in hard work is a given, of course.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by BackLinkiT View Post

        Thank you for your replies everyone. Especially you, Jeffery, you really made me chuckle!

        Let me clarify. The WSO is really well put together and the software, templates and system are superb.

        The problem I have with it is that the seller says that anyone can make money using it, which is garbage.

        If you work full time, cannot make or take calls during the day or attend meetings with potential clients, then this WSO is really not for you.

        The seller does not make this clear...so perhaps I should.
        There you go.. spot on. Welcome back to the boardroom.

        Like Richard said.. leave out the garbage:
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6150934


        Also, Almost no one in the boardroom without qualified opinions believes a potty mouth.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
      Originally Posted by sloanjim View Post

      Whoooa ok Lord Vada....whatever goes! Geeps who'd want a job there?
      People who are serious about earning an honest income.

      BTW, do you have a contribution to the OP? Thought not.

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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    You most definitely HAVE to leave an honest review. I sell review copies for some of my products and that's exactly what I want from people -- the whole truth and nothing but the truth. You are doing no one else a favor by sugar coating things. Wouldn't you appreciate it if others were also a lot more honest with their WSO reviews? I sure would.

    The point of getting a review copy means you have already been given the discount so the discount is not dependent on what type of review you leave -- positive or negative.

    So go and do your duty -- give them the honest feedback they deserve. Anything else and you are just cheating yourself and others. At least give the seller the opportunity to defend your feedback as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author alexgold87
    Just leave a honest review. Actually people ask for review to get the idea about future sales. You will save that person money and reputation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
    Negative reviews (if done correctly) are one of the best assets product creators like myself can take from the wf.

    Every review that points out flaws, problems or suggests improvements with our products becomes an essential component for us that allows us to improve and develop better products for our customers, before moving them out of the wso board and into the real world.

    Product creators who care about their customers won't fear negative feedback, we welcome it.
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