UK Offline Niche - Interested in promoting through Seminars??? (US Warriors can copy idea of course)

by Riz
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Hi,

With all the interest in the Offline Niche lately i can truly say that it has been a life changer for me.

Further to the Chris Negro thread on how to make a killing by promoting through seminars i noticed that a lot of Warriors would be interested in targeting the seminar idea but have a real fear of public spealking and a fear of what exactly to say in the presentation.

I held my first seminar recently (experience detailed in another thread) and had great success. Now this was my first attemt and i only presented to 15 restaurant owners. I'm sure there are many areas i can improve in - my nerves at the start were a killer and i had a real fear of presenting that day. But i pulled through and that has given me so much confidence in this area now.

I was thinking that if other warriors are interested:

1) a group of 10 to 15 of us could get together on a weekend at a hotel conference room

2) each one of us could prepare a 15 to 20 minute presentation as we would for say a chamber of commerce meeting or something.

3) the rest of us could act like business owners and ask questions at the end accordingly.


This will allow the following:

1) sharing of ideas

2) having our techniques critiqued

3) learning from each other

4) good networking day.


If there is enough interest then we will move forward with this idea. Any costs associated with the hiring of a conference room can be shared amongst us all.

Reply here if this interests anyone and if possible list your experience with the offline niche so far.

Riz
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    This is a really neat idea.

    I think this kind of collaboration could be exceptionally valuable for you all if you can set it up.

    Kindest regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author Riz
      That's what i thought Andrew - but so far i've not had any interest from anyone.



      Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post

      This is a really neat idea.

      I think this kind of collaboration could be exceptionally valuable for you all if you can set it up.

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Hetherington
    Hi Baal,
    I'd be very interested in this. I'm based in cambs but happy to travel to such an event.

    Tony
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    • Profile picture of the author Riz
      Hi Tony,

      Well that makes a grand total of just 2 of us :-)

      I thought more people would be interested in this.

      I think even if we get 5 to 6 people this will be beneficial - 10 of course would be better.

      Riz

      Originally Posted by LaunchWorkshop View Post

      Hi Baal,
      I'd be very interested in this. I'm based in cambs but happy to travel to such an event.

      Tony
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  • Profile picture of the author pearsonbrown
    I don't have the time to get involved in this area at the moment. But if it's a question of making up the numbers for a good idea to go ahead, you can count me in.

    Pearson
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  • Originally Posted by Baal View Post

    Hi,

    With all the interest in the Offline Niche lately i can truly say that it has been a life changer for me.

    Further to the Chris Negro thread on how to make a killing by promoting through seminars i noticed that a lot of Warriors would be interested in targeting the seminar idea but have a real fear of public spealking and a fear of what exactly to say in the presentation.

    I held my first seminar recently (experience detailed in another thread) and had great success. Now this was my first attemt and i only presented to 15 restaurant owners. I'm sure there are many areas i can improve in - my nerves at the start were a killer and i had a real fear of presenting that day. But i pulled through and that has given me so much confidence in this area now.

    I was thinking that if other warriors are interested:

    1) a group of 10 to 15 of us could get together on a weekend at a hotel conference room

    2) each one of us could prepare a 15 to 20 minute presentation as we would for say a chamber of commerce meeting or something.

    3) the rest of us could act like business owners and ask questions at the end accordingly.


    This will allow the following:

    1) sharing of ideas

    2) having our techniques critiqued

    3) learning from each other

    4) good networking day.


    If there is enough interest then we will move forward with this idea. Any costs associated with the hiring of a conference room can be shared amongst us all.

    Reply here if this interests anyone and if possible list your experience with the offline niche so far.

    Baal

    Hi Ball

    I would interested in this excellent idea. Let me know the next step.


    Regards
    para
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  • Profile picture of the author geotarget
    Baal, this is a nice idea, I think you're onto something. Give it a shot at LBB, you might get some more interest there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
      Hi Baal,
      Good idea. Unfortuantely I'm too busy too make any meeting at the moment. However here's some pointers if you are looking to promote the offline consultancy via seminars in association with chambers of commerce, business link or one of the numerous regional/city business groups that I've found out during my months of testing.

      Most work well in advance. What I mean by that is many have full calenders for 6 months to a year already.

      Many will class you as a web designer and will not let you talk close to other 'web designers' so get your message clear you are a consultant (or whatever you class yourself as) but not a web designer

      Some of the larger networking groups in the UK will get members to a seminar but they expect you to provide an evening meal/buffet and I even had one that asked for a free bar in addition to that.

      Hope that helps?

      Rich
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      • Profile picture of the author Riz
        Thanks Richard for the tips.

        My first seminar was conducted using direct mail and tel calls all within a couple of weeks so there are avenues to explore outwith these associations.

        In the future i will want to concentrate on associations and your tips here are very much appreciated.

        Baal

        Originally Posted by Richard Tunnah View Post

        Hi Baal,
        Good idea. Unfortuantely I'm too busy too make any meeting at the moment. However here's some pointers if you are looking to promote the offline consultancy via seminars in association with chambers of commerce, business link or one of the numerous regional/city business groups that I've found out during my months of testing.

        Most work well in advance. What I mean by that is many have full calenders for 6 months to a year already.

        Many will class you as a web designer and will not let you talk close to other 'web designers' so get your message clear you are a consultant (or whatever you class yourself as) but not a web designer

        Some of the larger networking groups in the UK will get members to a seminar but they expect you to provide an evening meal/buffet and I even had one that asked for a free bar in addition to that.

        Hope that helps?

        Rich
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  • Profile picture of the author madison_avenue
    I won't be able to join you yet but like Pearson said, it is a good idea and you should go ahead with it. I will be available in a few months and might join you then.

    all the best
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  • Profile picture of the author Riz
    ok - so far we have Tony, Pearson and Para.

    I thought there wud be a higher response to this - i think we may need to scrap the idea.

    Riz
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  • Profile picture of the author jasdon
    I may be interested - if you get enough interest to move forward, I'd like to discuss.
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  • Profile picture of the author negropay
    I also think it is a great idea for US based warriors .others outside Us could be copted inform a of a webinar.or what do you think
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    • Profile picture of the author DiamondPed
      Hi Baal,

      Add my name to the list, would love to get myself moving with this.

      In my previous lives (MLM & Property) I found working with a group of like-minded people had a synergistic, positive effect on everyone involved

      Speak soon,

      PeterC.
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    • Profile picture of the author dotslash
      Hi Baal,

      I've been thinking of trying offline for a while - can you put me down as well please ...

      It would be excellent to work through presentations, share ideas, markets etc.

      Thanks
      Neil
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    • Profile picture of the author helenaja
      Hello Guys,

      I currently live in Bangkok, Thailand. If there are some Warriors in the area who would like to collorate, please let me know.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kate Davies
        What a fantastic idea Baal. Brilliant, inspired!

        Count me in.

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  • Profile picture of the author visitsingapore
    I m from Singapore, keen to attend...I organise simple workshop on building positive relationship and understanding body language in Singapore under some Youth Groups activities. I do not have money to fly to UK now
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  • Profile picture of the author Riz
    Ok we now have:

    1) Me
    2) Tony
    3) Pearson
    4) Jasdon
    5) Peter C
    6) Neil
    7) Kate

    A total of 7 - not bad - i think we can work with that.

    I will leave this thread up for another few days to see if anyone else is interested. We can then start organising a date and time that is suitable to all.

    Riz
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  • Profile picture of the author BizBooks
    Videotape it...

    you'll have great use of the tape afterward
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    • Profile picture of the author Riz
      Good idea Bizbooks


      Originally Posted by BizBooks View Post

      Videotape it...

      you'll have great use of the tape afterward
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        shout me when your ready i would be interested
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        • Profile picture of the author joecool1972
          This sounds interesting and sounds like something I would like to get involved in. But I think I need to read some of the other threads because I am not sure as to the whole point of the seminar is it to sell the idea of building websites to business people or to sell SEO or something else. I guess it would depend on what the individuals skills where. I will have to look up details of your seminar on this forum to see what it was about.
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          • Profile picture of the author Riz
            Originally Posted by joecool1972 View Post

            This sounds interesting and sounds like something I would like to get involved in. But I think I need to read some of the other threads because I am not sure as to the whole point of the seminar is it to sell the idea of building websites to business people or to sell SEO or something else. I guess it would depend on what the individuals skills where. I will have to look up details of your seminar on this forum to see what it was about.
            Hi Joecool,

            The seminar can be geared towards anything that will help the business owners increase business - whether thats seo, video marketing or anything else or even a general overview of different online promotional methods.

            My seminar was on email marketing as per the cash cow thread.

            Here's the link u r looking for:

            http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...spiration.html

            Baal
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Tunnah
            Originally Posted by joecool1972 View Post

            This sounds interesting and sounds like something I would like to get involved in. But I think I need to read some of the other threads because I am not sure as to the whole point of the seminar is it to sell the idea of building websites to business people or to sell SEO or something else. I guess it would depend on what the individuals skills where. I will have to look up details of your seminar on this forum to see what it was about.
            I strongly suggest you don't approach businesses with an offer to build a website. That isn't a great USP as many get hit with website designers a lot. Promote the benefits of having a website that works for them. Such as developing a bigger customer list online at little cost. Keep in contact with present customers or maybe to offer loyal customers a one time special. You get the idea.

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            • Profile picture of the author jack_turner
              Hi Baal, yeah I reckon I'd be interested, if you let me know closer to the time.

              Jack
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              • Profile picture of the author tsamarketing
                Hi Baal,

                Great Idea, I'm in!!!


                Thanks

                Samuel
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  • Profile picture of the author EndGame
    I would most certainly be interested in this kind of thing and know a couple of other people who would probably be interested in this as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Riz
      Ok we now have:

      1) Me
      2) Tony
      3) Pearson
      4) Jasdon
      5) Peter C
      6) Neil
      7) Kate
      8) Para - sorry for missing u out b4
      9) End Game
      10) Wah Bhati - sorry for missing u out bro -

      Ok - we have 10 people. I think a max of 12 would be a good number but even with 10 we will have a great networking day.

      In the next few days i will put up a poll for best weekend to meet etc.

      Remeber all - everyone MUST have a 15 min presentation prepared as if they are presenting to a group of business owners. That is the whole purpose of this meetup.

      Baal




      Originally Posted by EndGame View Post

      I would most certainly be interested in this kind of thing and know a couple of other people who would probably be interested in this as well.
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      Hi Endgame,

      For anyone else that u know that is interested please get them to respond in this thread.

      Originally Posted by EndGame View Post

      I would most certainly be interested in this kind of thing and know a couple of other people who would probably be interested in this as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Josef Kane
        I'd be interested. A friend of mine and I have just set up a business for offline marketing. Where are you in the UK?
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    I'd love to come along, although a 15 year old may not have the same sway that you have
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    1) Me
    2) Tony
    3) Pearson
    4) Jasdon
    5) Peter C
    6) Neil
    7) Kate
    8) Para
    9) End Game
    10) Wah Bhati
    11) Richard Tunnah
    12) Jack Turner
    13) tsamarketing
    14) saq3m
    15) Josef Kane.

    15 folks - i think we need to keep to 15 as our maximum.

    Baal

    Edit - - - -

    oops missed out 16) Mark Wright
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  • Profile picture of the author Riz
    Ok folks - i have added a poll for the best Saturday in April for our meetup. I have selected the 18th.

    I'm guessing we may have a few people who might not be able to attend if a particular Saturday gets the highest percentage of votes.

    Get Voting :-)

    Baal
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    Only 2 of us have voted so far - maybe not everyone named above has seen the poll yet - i'll pm all of u to get ure votes in today.

    Baal
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  • Profile picture of the author Riz
    OK - I have sent everyone a PM to vote for their best days and to PM me with what their 15 minute presentation will be focused on.

    I'll be presenting on email marketing but it does not matter if more than 1 person covers the same topic.

    I know i said PM with your topic but i think it also be useful to post it in this thread.

    Baal
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I'm already doing this type of event when I'm in the UK and it cna be effective, but one of your comments concerned me:

    "3) the rest of us could act like business owners and ask questions at the end accordingly."

    ACT LIKE? That sounds like you're considering faking things.


    I'd be happy to be involved in well structured events, but since I think Pearson is the only person on that list that I've actually met - There's no way I could commit to being part of an event with a group of people I don't know.

    For all I know, you could all be a 15 year old school kids.

    I'm in the US for the next couple of months so I couldn't do anything before May, but I do like speaking to businesses about this stuff so in theory if it was done properly I'd be up for it.

    Andy

    p.s 15 minutes doesn't seem enough - I can talk for hours about almost any IM related aspect of business.
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    • Profile picture of the author Riz
      Hi Andy,

      Thanks for your input.

      I think you may have missed the point of the get together. It is for those that are either involved or interested in the Offline niche (as per the cash cow thread and many other ideas) and want to promote their services via Seminars or workshops with local business owners (as per Chris Negros recent thread on promoting through seminars).

      Many people involved in this niche would love to do that but have a fear of public speaking or would like a test run before doing it in front of their real target audience.

      It will allow us to critique each others presentation and style and make recommendations. It is also an ideal way for sharing ideas.

      When i say we will act like business owners (although we all effectively are if we r running this offline business) we are not faking it - simply acting like the target audience of the person presenting so they can get a feel of presenting to local business owners and engage in a q & a session - after all that is the purpose of the get together.

      You say u cant commit to an event with a group of people u dont know - that is ok but u will only get to know us by meeting us first :-)

      15 minute presentations are short yes but we will have approx 15 of us involved so we have to limit each persons time. Also in a lot of the seminars etc held by the chamber of commerce etc u only get 15 minutes to present yourself.

      This get together is in April some point but if there is another one it would be great if u cud come along.

      Baal

      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      I'm already doing this type of event when I'm in the UK and it cna be effective, but one of your comments concerned me:

      "3) the rest of us could act like business owners and ask questions at the end accordingly."

      ACT LIKE? That sounds like you're considering faking things.


      I'd be happy to be involved in well structured events, but since I think Pearson is the only person on that list that I've actually met - There's no way I could commit to being part of an event with a group of people I don't know.

      For all I know, you could all be a 15 year old school kids.

      I'm in the US for the next couple of months so I couldn't do anything before May, but I do like speaking to businesses about this stuff so in theory if it was done properly I'd be up for it.

      Andy

      p.s 15 minutes doesn't seem enough - I can talk for hours about almost any IM related aspect of business.
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      • Profile picture of the author Webthings
        Hi Baal,

        Subject to the date not clashing with any family commitments (and to that end, both March and May would suit me better than April), do please count me in.

        Also, you mentioned...

        Originally Posted by Baal View Post

        (as per Chris Negros recent thread on promoting through seminars).
        ...do you have a URL for that as I can't find it.

        Thanks,

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        • Profile picture of the author Riz
          Hi Andrew,

          No problem - link is:

          http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ut-sneaky.html

          Baal


          Originally Posted by Webthings View Post

          Hi Baal,

          Subject to the date not clashing with any family commitments (and to that end, both March and May would suit me better than April), do please count me in.

          Also, you mentioned...



          ...do you have a URL for that as I can't find it.

          Thanks,

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    ok cool.

    I think it's great that you're doing something anyway so good luck with it.

    Obviously I don't have a fear of public speaking, so I forget how much it does affect some people.
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    where exaclty is it. I may not be able to get there as I have GCSEs this year...
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    • Profile picture of the author Riz
      Venue is not decided yet but likely to be in midlands.

      I'm from Scotland but willing to travel for a fair location.

      Baal

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      where exaclty is it. I may not be able to get there as I have GCSEs this year...
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  • Profile picture of the author MrYossu
    Hello,

    Sorry, only just seen this post.

    I would definitely be interested, however Saturdays are out for me. If you were to organise something on a Sunday (or weekday for that matter) I could come.

    I'm not actually worried about the public speaking side of things as I've done loads of that in my time, but would really welcome the networking as far as presentation of ideas, suggestions for things to do for the business, pricing, etc.

    Thanks for getting this going. Please record it, and make the video available for those of us that can't come. I think you would be doing us all a great service with this.

    Ta ra
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  • Profile picture of the author Riz
    Here's a breakdown.

    Those that have voted and confirmed their topic:

    1) Baal - 18th April Topic: Email Marketing
    2) Jasdon - 25th April Topic: Domains
    3) Digileaf - 18th April Topic: Video Marketing
    4) Para - 18th April Topic: Email Marketing
    5) tsamarketing - 4th April Topic: Email Marketing



    Those that have voted BUT not confirmed their topic:

    1) dotslash - 18th April
    2) Wah Bhati - 25th April
    3) Joseph Kane - 25th april
    4) Web Things - Other

    Please confirm your topics.



    Those that have confirmed they cannot come:

    1) saq3m


    Those yet to vote AND confirm topic:

    1) launchworkshop
    2) pearsonbrown
    3) DiamondPed
    4) End Game
    5) Jack Turner

    I would appreciate if you could let me know if you are unable to attend or confirm your vote and topic.


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  • Profile picture of the author DaveLloyd
    Hi,

    I have just found this thread

    I can see that you have already more than reached your desired quota, but I am tentatively interested. Would like to see your goals fleshed out a bit more though.

    I am down in deepest Cornwall so choice of venue could be important for me. Time constraints also apply.

    Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author Riz
      Hi Dave,

      Not sure what u mean by needing to see my goals fleshed out a bit more. The goal of the get together is written in the original post.

      Let me know if u need clarification on anything.

      Baal


      Originally Posted by DaveLloyd View Post

      Hi,

      I have just found this thread

      I can see that you have already more than reached your desired quota, but I am tentatively interested. Would like to see your goals fleshed out a bit more though.

      I am down in deepest Cornwall so choice of venue could be important for me. Time constraints also apply.

      Dave
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      • Profile picture of the author DaveLloyd
        Hi Baal,

        You're right!

        I misunderstood your first post.

        Dave

        Originally Posted by Baal View Post

        Hi Dave,

        Not sure what u mean by needing to see my goals fleshed out a bit more. The goal of the get together is written in the original post.

        Let me know if u need clarification on anything.

        Baal
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  • Profile picture of the author Riz
    Hi Productcreator,

    The likely location will be Manchester or a city nearby - will be putting it to a vote once date is confirmed. I am from Scotland but willing to travel.

    There will be no services being sold as there will not be any brick and mortar businesses there to sell to - this is simply a warrior get together for a specific purpose which is detailed in the original post.

    U r more than welcome to come along - just vote for your date but this will not be in London.

    Hope that helps.

    Baal



    Originally Posted by ProductCreator View Post

    Where will this be held and how do you intend to allocate jobs when business owners decide they want to invest?

    If this is in London and any of your 15 do not show then I would be interested. I can talk about product creation. Any date is good for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce Hammond
    Very interesting idea Will come back on that in a few months

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    Congrats on coming up with a winner Baal! Excellent creative thinking.

    You may have stumbled upon a new business model "Public Speaking Incubator Sessions".
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  • Profile picture of the author MrYossu
    Will this definitely be on a Saturday? As I said before, Sats are out for me, but now you mention it's likely to be in M/cr (where I live!), I'm going to go crazy if I can't come!

    Any chance of a Sunday get-together?
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    • Profile picture of the author Riz
      Hi Mr Yossu,

      Saturday is not 100% confirmed - if more people want Sunday then we will go with it.

      At the moment we r deciding on the best weekend but i'm still waiting for some to choose their date and advise their topic.

      I will pm them once more and if they dont respond i will assume they r not coming and cross them off the list.

      Even if we only have 7 to 8 of us it will be good use of our time.

      Baal


      Originally Posted by MrYossu View Post

      Will this definitely be on a Saturday? As I said before, Sats are out for me, but now you mention it's likely to be in M/cr (where I live!), I'm going to go crazy if I can't come!

      Any chance of a Sunday get-together?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kate Davies
    Just thought that I would add ... that although my vote was for 18th I am actually free on both days that weekend. On other weekends I may be free on either the saturday or sunday.

    Manchester is a good location.

    Kate
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