Would You Pay Me $0.04 Per word per article?

13 years ago

Dam Internet. I'd just wrote this.

Anyway, you have 2 huge mistakes in your first sentence. You need a comma so it sounds like you are speaking about 1 person, and you have an extra s on the end.

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Freelancing10

13 years ago

Originally Posted by fin

Dam Internet. I'd just wrote this.

Anyway, you have 2 huge mistakes in your first sentence. You need a comma so it sounds like you are speaking about 1 person, and you have an extra s on the end.

I fixed it. I am talking about one person.

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fin

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Freelancing10

I fixed it. I am talking about one person.

I know. To be honest, there was stuff like this all through it.

I think you should study grammar, etc. Go to Amazon and look for The Elements of Style.

Once you get that sorted, your articles will be OK. I think you'll eventually find your voice and write more engaging content as you progress.

The best part is: your writing doesn't suck. By that I mean you will eventually get there with practice, but I really think you should sort out the basics first.

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Freelancing10

13 years ago

Originally Posted by fin

I know. To be honest, there was stuff like this all through it.

I think you should study grammar, etc. Go to Amazon and look for The Elements of Style.

Once you get that sorted, your articles will be OK. I think you'll eventually find your voice and write more engaging content as you progress.

The best part is: your writing doesn't suck. By that I mean you will eventually get there with practice, but I really think you should sort out the basics first.

How much would you pay for an article at that quality?

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fin

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Freelancing10

How much would you pay for an article at that quality?

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I wouldn't use it, but there will be people that pay 0.1c per word and get a lot less quality than that.

But as someone pointed out: you can't give someone an article with mistakes.

If you sort out your grammar I think you might get 0.01/0.02c per word, until you can be more engaging and have it flowing better.

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Freelancing10

13 years ago

Originally Posted by fin

I wouldn't use it, but there will be people that pay 0.1c per word and get a lot less quality than that.

But as someone pointed out: you can't give someone an article with mistakes.

If you sort out your grammar I think you might get 0.01/0.02c per word, until you can be more engaging and have it flowing better.

Okay I will practice my grammar more.

Thank you.

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Cali16

13 years ago

To be honest, no. While it is a slight improvement on previous work that you asked people to review, it is fraught with errors. A simple MS Word spelling and grammar check would have shown you most of them, but it wouldn't have caught all of them.

There were multiple grammar errors, mispellings, fragmented sentences, and words that should have been capitalized that weren't. There was also a huge number of punctuation errors, including a significant overuse of commas as well as many words that should have been hyphenated but weren't. Your sentence structure throughout was, to me, the most significant problem with the article.

While I commend you for your desire to keep working on your writing, I honestly don't think this is your area of strength at all. Yes, you can keep working on improving your writing, but you have a long way to go to get to the $0.04 per word range (considering the high level of competition). This, at best, might get $0.01 per word AFTER you edited it and corrected the most blatant errors (e.g. spelling, capitalization, etc.).

Improving more subtle things like sentence structure, flow, and being able to engage the reader will be much more difficult. Not impossible, but it will take a of work. If you're serious about being a writer I'd highly recommend you take at least a basic writing class.

Btw, I thought your new focus was on becoming a millionaire in MLM? You were gung-ho about that just a few days ago:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-business.html

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Freelancing10

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

To be honest, no. While it is a slight improvement on previous work that you asked people to review, it is fraught with errors. A simple MS Word spelling and grammar check would have shown you most of them, but it wouldn't have caught all of them.

There were multiple grammar errors, mispellings, fragmented sentences, and words that should have been capitalized that weren't. There was also a huge number of punctuation errors, including a significant overuse of commas as well as many words that should have been hyphenated but weren't. Your sentence structure throughout was, to me, the most significant problem with the article.

While I commend you for your desire to keep working on your writing, I honestly don't think this is your area of strength at all. Yes, you can keep working on improving your writing, but you have a long way to go to get to the $0.04 per word range (considering the high level of competition). This, at best, might get $0.01 per word AFTER you edited it and corrected the most blatant errors (e.g. spelling, capitalization, etc.).

Improving more subtle things like sentence structure, flow, and being able to engage the reader will be much more difficult. Not impossible, but it will take a of work. If you're serious about being a writer I'd highly recommend you take at least a basic writing class.

Btw, I thought your new focus was on becoming a millionaire in MLM? You were gung-ho about that just a few days ago:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-business.html

I am glad I have many fans here on the Warrior Forum.

All sarcasm aside, yes I am very serious about my MLM business, but working on making some side money while I grow that business.

Now, I hope this thread doesn't turn into a massive argument about the MLM business.

I am considering taking some classes this summer. But it's always nice to hear all of your opinions.

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by fin

Dam Internet. I'd just wrote this.

Anyway, you have 2 huge mistakes in your first sentence. You need a comma so it sounds like you are speaking about 1 person, and you have an extra s on the end.

If you get bored, offer proofreading services. Not sarcasm either. You catch everything.

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Rien

13 years ago

Originally Posted by fin

Dam Internet. I'd just wrote this.

Anyway, you have 2 huge mistakes in your first sentence. You need a comma so it sounds like you are speaking about 1 person, and you have an extra s on the end.

Jamie beat me to it.

My advice is if you are planning on using this as a sample then
read through it several times over to see if you can correct the
errors and have it flow a little better.

My first set of articles had the same type of "newsy" sound to
it, sort of like those assignments in elementary school where
we had to cover the 5 W's.

The more you write the more you will be able to find your voice
or writing style. You'll be fine.

More of a fan of the Rock, so I am a bit biased on your topic,
lol.

Good luck!

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Stoney

13 years ago

I wouldn't pay you .04 per word for less than perfect English. I am an English-speaking writer and I only earn about $.02 per word.

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Freelancing10 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Stoney

I wouldn't pay you .04 per word for less than perfect English. I am an English-speaking writer and I only earn about $.02 per word.

I spent around 2-3 hours doing research for this article. That doesn't count?
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- lisakleinweber 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Freelancing10
  
  I spent around 2-3 hours doing research for this article. That doesn't count?
  
  Research only counts if you are only getting paid for research. If you are being paid $4 for 100 words the article should be mistake free the first time around.
  
  I only read the first 4 paragraphs. I'm sorry, but your article has no flow, and many, many mistakes. I would not pay you .04 per word.
  
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- TheArticlePros 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Freelancing10
  
  I spent around 2-3 hours doing research for this article. That doesn't count?
  
  What if I could do the same research in 30-60 minutes?
  
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Joseph Robinson

Banned 13 years ago

Some things that I am noticing as I read through...

You reference Williams as "he" throughout most of the article, not much else. It's not really a best practice. When you do use his name, you refer to him as "Steve". For an article like this (and you will see this done through most articles regarding Sports. Check my favorite blog by Mike Reiss to see how it's done) refer to him by his last name, you decide between his real name or stage name. Be consistent.
Your growing up section skips around (you go from talking about his youth to his high school choices and then back to his youth again). There is no theme or point that the section seems to be making.
I feel you missed an opportunity to talk about his life before wrestling. What did he do, what other careers did he try? You would do well to provide more insight into why he decided to go to wrestling.
"His start in wrestling" is very scant on details as well. At this point most readers are not going to be invested in the piece anymore. I don't feel like I'm hearing his story, there is no reason for me to want to know what happens next.
"Steve Austin" is born. Wait, what about his first match? You built up to it, then completely skipped it. Did he win, lose, make a fool of himself? The people will want to know. Furthermore, when he got "benched" who did he watch? What did he pick up and from who? You need to go deeper into this stuff.

I stopped there. I see you went for length; but I get the feeling it is going to just be more of the same.

Now to be honest, it is better than the articles that you asked for the forum to review the first time around. You are still at the level though where it reads like a high school essay. The fact that it is extremely long makes it a chore to read. Going for completeness is a good thing; but only if you are going to engage the reader, and tell them a complete story.

Right now, your writing is still disconnected and isn't covering enough interesting information to accomplish what you would want for it to accomplish. I wouldn't pay $.04 per word for this.

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Freelancing10

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

Some things that I am noticing as I read through...

You reference Williams as "he" throughout most of the article, not much else. It's not really a best practice. When you do use his name, you refer to him as "Steve". For an article like this (and you will see this done through most articles regarding Sports. Check my favorite blog by Mike Reiss to see how it's done) refer to him by his last name, you decide between his real name or stage name. Be consistent.
Your growing up section skips around (you go from talking about his youth to his high school choices and then back to his youth again). There is no theme or point that the section seems to be making.
I feel you missed an opportunity to talk about his life before wrestling. What did he do, what other careers did he try? You would do well to provide more insight into why he decided to go to wrestling.
"His start in wrestling" is very scant on details as well. At this point most readers are not going to be invested in the piece anymore. I don't feel like I'm hearing his story, there is no reason for me to want to know what happens next.
"Steve Austin" is born. Wait, what about his first match? You built up to it, then completely skipped it. Did he win, lose, make a fool of himself? The people will want to know. Furthermore, when he got "benched" who did he watch? What did he pick up and from who? You need to go deeper into this stuff.

I stopped there. I see you went for length; but I get the feeling it is going to just be more of the same.

Now to be honest, it is better than the articles that you asked for the forum to review the first time around. You are still at the level though where it reads like a high school essay. The fact that it is extremely long makes it a chore to read. Going for completeness is a good thing; but only if you are going to engage the reader, and tell them a complete story.

Right now, your writing is still disconnected and isn't covering enough interesting information to accomplish what you would want for it to accomplish. I wouldn't pay $.04 per word for this.

Thank you, I agree with what you have said. I realized the article was going to get pretty long, if I included a lot of the things you suggested. I was normally trying to keep it at around 2000 words, but ended up spilling a bit over.

But I am re-reading it, and have found many mistakes myself.

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Freedom66K

13 years ago

You have a couple grammar mistakes, but your writing style is not bad. Luckily grammar is easier to fix, most people have it the other way around.

I'd estimate .02 per word for current quality.

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Resale Rights Ninja

13 years ago

There is a lot of competition for writers. I have great writers who work for .01 per word. For article writers that is pretty much standard. High end is .05 per work but I doubt many people would pay that much. Its hard to find people who are even willing to pay .02 per word.

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Superior Content Creation

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Stoney

I wouldn't pay you .04 per word for less than perfect English. I am an English-speaking writer and I only earn about $.02 per word.

Fair enough on your opinion, but raise your prices. By competing on price as an English-speaking writer, you're only helping to exacerbate the problem. I did my very first two jobs at that price and doubled it almost immediately.

Do yourself a favor; do us all a favor.

Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja

There is a lot of competition for writers. I have great writers who work for .01 per word. For article writers that is pretty much standard. High end is .05 per work but I doubt many people would pay that much. Its hard to find people who are even willing to pay .02 per word.

It's not hard at all to make .05 per word - that's not high end at all.

There are already plenty of threads about whether or not it's possible to make good money writing, and while not everyone agrees it should be possible, it's certainly clear a lot of us are making a very decent amount.

I'd hate to see this dead horse get beaten once again here - the thing must be sore as all hell.

That said, I do think the OP could use some polishing before he pursues those prices. You're getting somewhere, and you can get further, so I'm not telling you to give up...but if English isn't your first language, I'd say there are easier ways you could make money with your level of skill.

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fin 13 years ago

I think you have to remember not everyone will pick up on stuff the same way experienced writers would.

People like you, no offense, just want someone to write their content because they don't want to.

These will be the people you will get work from, once the basics are sorted.

I think you'll be able to earn more than enough to pay basic bills, good thing about being young, until your MLM business picks up.

I'd start reading everything. You should have seen my writing last August: I swear I was a lot worse than you. I couldn't remember anything from school. It just takes practice.
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Freelancing10

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Superior Content Creation

Fair enough on your opinion, but raise your prices. By competing on price as an English-speaking writer, you're only helping to exacerbate the problem. I did my very first two jobs at that price and doubled it almost immediately.

Do yourself a favor; do us all a favor.

It's not hard at all to make .05 per word - that's not high end at all.

There are already plenty of threads about whether or not it's possible to make good money writing, and while not everyone agrees it should be possible (mainly, cheap IM'ers don't think so), it's certainly clear a lot of us are making a very decent amount.

I'd hate to see this dead horse get beaten once again here - the thing must be sore as all hell.

That said, I do think the OP could use some polishing before he pursues those prices. You're getting somewhere, and you can get further, so I'm not telling you to give up...but if English isn't your first language, I'd say there are easier ways you could make money with your level of skill.

Very true, there might be easier ways to make money. I bet if I put a thread right now, how to make $100 today, I'd get bombarded with, offer article writing as a service.

English was not my first language. Spanish was. But I've been learning English since I was in kindergarten, and the majority of my life have spoken English.

Does that affect a writer anyways?

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by fin

I'd start reading everything. You should have seen my writing last August: I swear I was a lot worse than you. I couldn't remember anything from school. It just takes practice.

I think school messes people up a bit actually when it comes to the kind of writing you need to do online, at least in a state like mine where they do standardized essay tests yearly.

They teach students to write in the exact style that the OP uses throughout the entire school year just to prepare for one day in February. It makes for good looking test scores (hey the nation isn't horrible at education they say :rolleyes

, but when those students go to a serious college or try something like freelance writing they are given a rude wake up call.

Anyways, not the time or place for that soapbox rant.

Originally Posted by Freelancing10

Very true, there might be easier ways to make money. I bet if I put a thread right now, how to make $100 today, I'd get bombarded with, offer article writing as a service.

You already did that, remember?

Originally Posted by Freelancing10

English was not my first language. Spanish was. But I've been learning English since I was in kindergarten, and most the majority of my life have spoken English.

Does that affect a writer anyways?

It depends, as with every writer.

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Superior Content Creation

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Freelancing10

Very true, there might be easier ways to make money. I bet if I put a thread right now, how to make $100 today, I'd get bombarded with, offer article writing as a service.

English was not my first language. Spanish was. But I've been learning English since I was in kindergarten, and most the majority of my life have spoken English.

Does that affect a writer anyways?

Yes, you're right - that is what everyone would say. It's important to remember, however, that common advice is not always the best advice. Not to mention that the majority of people who bombard you with that "advice" are only repeating what they hear everyone else say rather than taking your particular circumstances into account.

Some might feel I'm being too critical, but I just get a sense of your writing as being non-native, even though it's grammatically correct for the most part. It's something you sort of "feel."

Did you spend most of your time growing up with Spanish-speaking people? Do you have an accent when you speak English?

All that aside, when I said there were easier avenues for you, I was suggesting that if you know two languages, you can offer a translating service for Spanish-speaking websites or vice versa. If you want to offer top notch service, hire an editor to go over your work.

Just one example.

In other words, there are ways you can use your fantastic grasp of English combined with your native tongue (as well as your cultural knowledge) to make more money than you can writing at your current level. Just makes more sense to me than spending the time to get better.

My opinion, of course - always best taken with a grain of salt.

Edit: By the way, Man, I admire your courage throwing up your writing on here and asking opinions. Many of us would not be so bold, so good on you.

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AprilCT 13 years ago

You have received some good replies here. Hopefully, you are not discouraged, but for now 4 cents a word is too much to expect with the article you gave us.

If you really want to write, there are programs you can get on the Internet to help you by pointing out errors, but the better ones cost a monthly fee. They won't help you with what information you need to include, but your grammar and spelling will be better when your errors are clearly marked for you. Just one caution, even a paid program will still give a pass to some incorrectly spelled or wrongly used words, grammar and punctuation - it won't and can't catch everything.

Why are you working on such long articles instead of perfecting shorter ones? Perhaps you should stay a maximum of 600 words per article for now. It will be far easier for you to catch mistakes. After writing, editing and polishing the article, you might also want to print and read a hard copy of your work. Sometimes seeing it in front of you instead of onscreen is a better way to catch the last of the errors.
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Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja

High end is .05 per work but I doubt many people would pay that much. Its hard to find people who are even willing to pay .02 per word.

I'll share a little secret with you, RRN: not only is it barely any more difficult to find clients who'll pay $0.10 per word and more, but if you can supply what they need to buy, they'll keep returning for more all the time, too - because (unlike the $0.01-per-word article buyers, who pretty often don't understand how article marketing really works) their own businesses survive and flourish, and their content needs grow with them.

$4/$5 article writers are continually advertising for new clients, most of whom they eventually lose when the clients' own businesses fail. $150/$200 article writers aren't. There's a reason for that (and it's not lack of either availability of, or demand for, the service!).

I think you've been given a lot of very good and valuable advice above, Freelancing10 - wishing you good luck with it.
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Toplink

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja

There is a lot of competition for writers. I have great writers who work for .01 per word. For article writers that is pretty much standard. High end is .05 per work but I doubt many people would pay that much. Its hard to find people who are even willing to pay .02 per word.

I wish I could find decent writers at .02 a word !! I would hire one tomorrow! Native English speakers ?

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John Coutts

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja

There is a lot of competition for writers. I have great writers who work for .01 per word. For article writers that is pretty much standard. High end is .05 per work but I doubt many people would pay that much. Its hard to find people who are even willing to pay .02 per word.

You've lead a rather sheltered life if you truly believe that. The "high end" is not ".05 per word," or anything near it. There are plenty of places where you can be paid $3 per word - no, not 3 cents - or more, and they will always be there too.

Of course, web writing does traditionally pay less, but even so, you will find plenty of article writers in the $25 to $250 range. Yes, really!

It isn't hard to find people willing to pay ".02 per word," as you say. It's just difficult for you. There's a huge difference.

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tess47

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja

There is a lot of competition for writers. I have great writers who work for .01 per word. For article writers that is pretty much standard. High end is .05 per work but I doubt many people would pay that much. Its hard to find people who are even willing to pay .02 per word.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you! I hardly think that .01 per word is "standard," after all, there is usually at least a minimum amount of research involved in writing articles (sometimes a substantial amount, depending upon the topic), and it's hard to imagine that anyone would work for less than minimum wage. Hard to find people who will pay .02 per word? Hardly. That's the rate I began at 4 years ago, and I had no problem getting it.

I do realize that the competition among writers is higher today, but writers value their talent far more than working for .01 per word. I currently charge .04, and have no problem at all getting clients. Of course, it all depends on the client as well - their years in business, success level, industry, etc. I find that established SEO, internet marketing and web design firms have no problem paying for quality work

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tess47

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja

There is a lot of competition for writers. I have great writers who work for .01 per word. For article writers that is pretty much standard. High end is .05 per work but I doubt many people would pay that much. Its hard to find people who are even willing to pay .02 per word.

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you! I hardly think that .01 per word is "standard," after all, there is usually at least a minimum amount of research involved in writing articles (sometimes a substantial amount, depending upon the topic), and it's hard to imagine that anyone would work for less than minimum wage. Hard to find people who will pay .02 per word? Hardly. That's the rate I began at 4 years ago, and I had no problem getting it.

I do realize that the competition among writers is higher today, but writers value their talent far more than working for .01 per word. I currently charge .04, and have no problem at all getting clients. Of course, it all depends on the client as well - their years in business, success level, industry, etc. I find that established SEO, internet marketing and web design firms have no problem paying for quality work

Neither do lawyers!

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Resale Rights Ninja

13 years ago

...But then again after seeing Joe Robinson's post I may be totally wrong...

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Freelancing10

Thank you, I agree with what you have said. I realized the article was going to get pretty long, if I included a lot of the things you suggested. I was normally trying to keep it at around 2000 words, but ended up spilling a bit over.

But I am re-reading it, and have found many mistakes myself.

There is nothing wrong with splitting it into multiple articles. You don't have to tell the entire story in one go. Have one focus on his childhood/career before wrestling. Have the next one focus on his career. Have another that focuses on what he is up to these days.

Same basic story; but now you get to turn one article into three while improving on the original piece. Plus if this was something that you were going to syndicate and email out to your list, splitting up the story gives them a reason to anxiously await your next piece.

Leaving your readers hanging (and begging for more) is a great way to get them to read your next email without resorting to a crappy/spammy/unrelated subject line

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Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja

...But then again after seeing Joe Robinson's post I may be totally wrong...

It's subjective. I've found clients at $.10 per word, and I know of other writers who charge more than that (and have enough clients to fill their schedule).

As many pricing threads have stated, there is no one size fits all model for what contractors are willing to pay. Also, certain buyers are looking for a different kind of writer and article. My $100 article wouldn't be used for the same things that someone's $10 would be used for.

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Will Edwards

13 years ago

Despite you having 'fixed' your first sentence, it is still grammatically incorrect. Your second and third sentences, with all due respect, look as if they were written by a non-native English speaker.

I did not read further.

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Freelancing10

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Will Edwards

Despite you having 'fixed' your first sentence, it is still grammatically incorrect. Your second and third sentence, with all due respect, look as if they were written by a non-native English speaker.

I did not read further.

Will

I love you too.

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PimpinRice

13 years ago

I'll pay .008 per word

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Freelancing10 13 years ago

Originally Posted by PimpinRice

I'll pay .008 per word

Dang! I may have to find another venture.
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  Dang! I have may have to find another venture.
  
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  Originally Posted by Joe Robinson
  
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Joseph Robinson Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by PimpinRice

I'll pay .008 per word

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Imam Hariyanto

Paid $10 for 3 unique articles 300-400 words/article maybe a good idea.. this looks more professional :-)

No offense, but I'm not even 100% clear what you're trying to say...

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Imam Hariyanto

Paid $10 for 3 unique articles 300-400 words/article maybe a good idea.. this looks more professional :-)

Originally Posted by Superior Content Creation

No offense, but I'm not even 100% clear what you're trying to say...

Pretty sure he was saying that he buys his at $.01 per word and that this is somehow more professional. I'm not even trying to convince anyone else otherwise tonight, let them have it. You do you Imam

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

Pretty sure he was saying that he buys his at $.01 per word and that this is somehow more professional. I'm not even trying to convince anyone else otherwise tonight, let them have it. You do you Imam

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lol Yea, whatever it was, it's clear he's an authority on the matter based on his post.

I surrender as well - it's late and time to crash.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Freelancing10

I am hoping that I have the skills to write $0.04 per word per article article.

Here is a sample of my work, would you pay this price?

If not, how much would you pay?

Wrong question.

Wrong audience.

The 'right' question is: "How much do you currently make from top quality
articles you have had written for you by article writers you've hired in the
past?"

That segments your audience... into folks who have outsourced article writing,
and profit from the content they have ordered - and those who have NOT.

Ignore the second group.

Focus only on the first.

Then, you position yourself to be WORTH at least that much to your audience
- and confidently ask for the price you believe your writing is worth.

But make sure, first, that what you deliver will bring your client a higher
return on their investment into your work.

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fin

13 years ago

Originally Posted by new2d

Please tell me this line is a joke.

You're hoping to make less than half the minimum wage in the US?

It'd be one thing if you posted, "life sucks that I am reduced to writing entire articles for less than the cost of a Happy Meal. Regardless, is this writing good enough?"

But to actually "hope" just depresses the **** out of me.

I think $20 for 20 minutes work is OK.

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Joseph Robinson Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by fin

I think $20 for 20 minutes work is OK.

That awkward moment when it's only 5:15am and you don't have any Thanks to give .
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Joseph Robinson Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by fin

I think $20 for 20 minutes work is OK.

Originally Posted by new2d

riiiiiiiiiight

That surprises you? Yesterday, I secured a $475 order. Here is the time break down that is going to happen to complete said order:

3 hours for research: Probably 2 hours total; but I'm including travel time.
30 minutes for outlining, image collection.
2 hours to write.
30 minutes for cleanup, review/editing.
10 minutes to convert to PDF, upload and send to client.

So that means I earned $475 for what will be 6.17 hours of work. Max.

Simple math will show that this comes out to $76.99 an hour or $25.66 for 20 minutes.

Huh, so even better than what fin quoted. There you go. Just because you haven't done it doesn't make it infeasible.

Originally Posted by cashcow

Your writing is better than a lot I have read, but you're no Joe Robinson.
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Alexa Smith

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by new2d

Originally Posted by fin

I think $20 for 20 minutes work is OK.

riiiiiiiiiight

I also think $20 for 20 minutes work is perfectly ok.

It's $60 per hour (or about £37 per hour, in my language). I was entirely happy to work for that in 2008, when I started, and just pleased that so many were willing to pay it. I actually started off at about two-thirds of that hourly rate, to be honest, and I was happy even with that. It's perfectly fair pay for someone relatively new to a highly skilled activity. What's your point, new2d?

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Steve McBride

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

I also think $20 for 20 minutes work is perfectly ok.

It's $60 per hour (or about £37 per hour, in my language). I was entirely happy to work for that in 2008, when I started, and just pleased that so many were willing to pay it. I actually started off at about two-thirds of that hourly rate, to be honest, and I was happy even with that. It's perfectly fair pay for someone relatively new to a highly skilled activity. What's your point, new2d?

All those extra i's in "riiiiight" probably means what we all think it means. But, what if in his country, all those extra i's mean that he GREATLY agrees in a non-sarcastic nature!

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve McBride

All those extra i's in "riiiiight" probably means what we all think it means. But, what if in his country, all those extra i's mean that he GREATLY agrees in a non-sarcastic nature!

His post history suggests that he is trying to make a "thing" out of sarcasm (and poor punctuation) :rolleyes:.

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Freelancing10

13 years ago

So what am I worth guys?

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Manoj V

13 years ago

You're worth the action you take and the money your bring in. You've got some good feedback on this thread and useful pointers so now it's time to go out and sell your writing.

My suggestion is to start at a lower rate and get orders and then scale up to the figure that you aspire for. If you're an unknown writer you start at the bottom and move towards the top and not start at the top and wait for people to presume that you're good because you placed yourself at the top with your premium pricing.

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cashcow

13 years ago

Your writing is better than a lot I have read, but you're no Joe Robinson.

Grammar aside, the article doesn't have personality. Sure, it's well researched and contains a lot of information but it lacks flow and style. It's a little "stilted" when you read it.

I'm not saying this to be mean, just to point out some things to work on. I think writing more would improve that.

Anyway, I think you are close to .04 cents… maybe .025 or .03, provided all the grammar issues are cleaned up.

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Toplink

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Freelancing10

I am hoping that I have the skills to write $0.04 per word per article article.

Here is a sample of my work, would you pay this price?

If not, how much would you pay?

Thank you.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...rb4hUfiy0/edit

Sorry, but you need to improve your grammar and punctuation.

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Raindance

13 years ago

I found plenty of grammar mistakes. I didn't read the entire article. I mostly skimmed through the last paragraphs, and noticed a lot of grammatical errors. You should work on that. That reason is enough for clients to avoid even hiring you, let alone pay premium charges.

And the article wasn't exciting. You were just talking about Austin, and not making it any fascinating. Your story lacked the necessary punch to keep the reader hooked.

P.S. - The Rock is the greatest of all-time.

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JohnMcCabe 13 years ago

I'm not going to pile on about the grammatical challenges. Let's just say you were generous in providing fodder for a proofreader.

Do a Google search for 'download elements of style' and you'll come up with many PDF versions you can download and study. I believe the original book is in the public domain.

As for improving your writing, one of the best ways is to read widely. Fiction, non-fiction, whatever. Since your current aim is to write articles, read magazines and short stories. You'll pick up some of their style just by osmosis.

If you do decide to take a class or two, I would recommend taking creative writing, storytelling, that sort of thing. Your writing isn't great, but I've been asked to look at a lot worse.

I typically don't buy writing services, so that puts me in Dr. Mani's second group. I do, however, syndicate articles. And what I'm saying applies to that as well, so there may be something to what I'm saying...
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  Someone once said you have to write a million practice words before you start finding your legs as a writer…which isn’t as hard as it sounds if you write a lot anyway. And some of those practice words should be outside of any writing you do for clients or IM.
  
  Find some writing exercises and start doing daily writing practice. But don't just stick to nonfiction exercises. Fiction exercises will make you a better storyteller, and poetry exercises will teach you to play with words.
  
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Nate Simms

13 years ago

Thanks for doing the math.

At $108.92, I would expect an impeccably clean article that reads better than a simple rewrite of Stone Cold's information on Wikipedia.

Nonetheless, OP, you have received some valuable advice on this thread.

I won't stack on top of it, but will tell you that the article as shared by you is already better than the majority of stuff I have purchased in the Warrior For Hire section.

Clean it up a bit, find your voice, construct a decent flow, and you will be good to go.

Originally Posted by BIG Mike

Based on the word count (I used MS Word), that comes to $108.92 at four cents per word.

Would I pay that for this article? Not a chance...

Your writing is on par with my proficiency level EFL students, but it's not good enough to command the price you want - to many grammar and overall Use of English mistakes are present.

The article was fairly bland and there was no real style to it. Factor in the errors and I might consider paying one cent per word, given that myself or a partner would need to extensively edit the article.

I do think you're on the right track - given time and experience you could reach your goal, but I don't think you're there yet.

Don't give up...I would suggest you lower your price so that you can earn while sharpening your skills and then gradually increase them over time.

It will also give you an opportunity to develop a list of regular clients that will grow with you.

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RobIMJones

13 years ago

Hiya!

Keep at it mate, you may have some flaws, but don't we all? Work hard and you'll reap the rewards! Don't get put off by negative comments, and good luck!

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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by RobIMJones

Hiya!

Keep at it mate, you may have some flaws, but don't we all? Work hard and you'll reap the rewards! Don't get put off by negative comments, and good luck!

Rob

It's true, we ALL make some mistakes. BUT, if you are going to charge for your writing then the mistakes need to be as few as possible. The sample article provided simply is not up to professional standards.

While the OP shouldn't let negative comments get to him, he also should not ignore constructive criticism.

I wish him luck too, but right now he needs improvement before any "luck" will follow.

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Michael Oksa

13 years ago

The very first mistake I spotted was in the title.

THE TITLE!

It should be "The Biggest Superstar of All Time", not "All-time".

All-time is a hyphenated adjective which has to modify something; it doesn't do that here. You can say something like "all-time superstar", but not "superstar of all-time". The same is true with your use of pro-wrestling in the first paragraph. However, shaved head should be shave-headed or shaved-headed. I'm not sure which is correct, but that is an adjective phrase and needs a hyphen.

Then there is the issue of breaking glass. I am not a wrestling fan, so I assumed you meant he would physically break the glass, but then you say he would make his entrance. This confused me. Was it the sound of breaking glass? If so, then mention it.

How high were his black boots? Were they shiny? Were they combat boots? Paint this non-fan a picture.

The article also seems to jump around a lot, and little facts are added in a way that becomes distracting, as opposed to entertaining.

That being said, I think you have potential.

Read. A lot. Pay attention to how professional authors write (especially punctuation and grammar). Re-learn the basics. Practice. Analyze. Practice. Keep honing your craft and you will eventually get to much more than $0.04 per word.

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Steve McBride

13 years ago

No, I would not pay you four cents a word for your writing ability. Just in the first paragraph you have a run-on sentence. You also use the word "till" instead of until. At four cents a word, your technical writing skills should be near perfect. Also, at that high of a rate, your writing style should be much more engaging and entertaining.

Instead of asking on here, why not go find out? Textbroker.com is for writers who want to start getting paid right away. You would probably be started off as a level three writer. Level three pays one cent a word. It may not seem like much, but just think of it as practice. You're getting paid a penny a word to improve your writing skills. That's not a bad deal.

With Textbroker, you grab articles to write out of a pool. After submitting an article, and once it is approved, money goes into your Textbroker account. Every Friday, all the money in your Textbroker account gets paid into your Paypal account. It's a pretty good deal for someone who wants to start getting paid for writing. The more you improve, the higher your rank will get. The higher your rank, the more you get paid per word.

At level four, you may get a personal invite to "try out" for level five. To get level five you must pass a difficult grammar test. Then they review your more recent articles, and judge whether or not you have what it takes to be a level five writer. If they accept you to write for level five, you make five cents a word. You could easily make a good income as a level five writer, even if you did nothing else. At any time, if they feel your writing is not up to your rank's standards, they will lower your rank.

I made level five earlier this year. It's good money that I make on the side, but I focus most of my attention on creating my own products. I usually write an article on Textbroker as a warm-up before I start working on my own stuff.

So, if you're a US or UK resident, I definitely recommend signing up for Textbroker. It's a great way to get paid while working on your writing skills. Also, make sure to check out the author blog on there. It has a lot of great tips to help improve your writing.

To your success,

Steve

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Jason Perez O'Connor

13 years ago

Hey,

I would say the article isn't bad for fiverr clients who need it to spin and blast for useless backlinks

(no disrespect meant by this comment).

I'm not exactly a great writer either, but I would have referred to him as "Stone Cold" throughout. Perhaps you could have opened with one of his quotes too. A lot of it just doesn't flow and I find myself stopping all the time because one word doesn't complement the other.

Kinda like I do when I have to read back my own writing haha xD

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BulletheadX

13 years ago

Maybe I'm missing something... Isn't a huge chunk of the Internet in Spanish? Is there not then a large market for articles written in Spanish? If OP is a native Spanish speaker/writer, perhaps he can make his .04/word writing in his native tongue instead of struggling to port his thoughts over to English (at least until he's improved)?

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Superior Content Creation

13 years ago

Originally Posted by BulletheadX

Maybe I'm missing something... Isn't a huge chunk of the Internet in Spanish? Is there not then a large market for articles written in Spanish? If OP is a native Spanish speaker/writer, perhaps he can make his .04/word writing in his native tongue instead of struggling to port his thoughts over to English (at least until he's improved)?

Exactly - a very good point. There are plenty of ways to make money writing in another language, especially if you're bilingual. And because of less competition, it may even mean less of a struggle to set yourself apart and fill your plate with work.

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Freelancing10

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Greg Wildermuth

Freelancing 101,

Just a bit of constructive criticism (I'm not gonna just say 'grammar sucks, nope I wouldn't pay that...'):

Spend less time researching and more time editing. I write web content for $0.04/word and I also do freelance writing for $0.10/word. The higher pay stuff isn't necessarily harder to write; in fact, it's easier because it's on my speciality niche that I live every day.

When I write for $0.10/word, that means I'm going to edit the crap out of it. I'll set it aside, re-read it, go over it again, reconsider bits that are weak, etc. It makes a huge difference.

You're definitely a good writer, but you just need to be a better editor. It helps also to look at your article and compare it with others that you consider good. That helps you see how your tone could be improved (somebody said it's a bit 'newsy').

I agree with this. I will be focusing on articles with less words for now, so I can easily edit.

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PimpinRice

13 years ago

.008 for 500 words is $4. I don't see what's wrong with $4? Trolls.

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by PimpinRice

.008 for 500 words is $4. I don't see what's wrong with $4? Trolls.

Probably the fact that the OP, even at their current level, is worth more than that? But whatever, you do you and keep buying those $4 articles :rolleyes:. I truly feel for any talented writers that are willing to work at that level.

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PimpinRice

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

Probably the fact that the OP, even at their current level, is worth more than that? But whatever, you do you and keep buying those $4 articles :rolleyes:. I truly feel for any talented writers that are willing to work at that level.

OP actually made a sales thread for $6

I'll give a proper explanation if you can make a valid question from your first sentence. Also it isn't a fact, it is your opinion. Your "opinion" doesn't constitutes others opinion, in which it doesn't make it a fact. Unless we can gather data from various entries and criticism from professionals, then we can make it a fact that the original poster is indeed talented in his subject.
Your move

PS. My "opinion" is that your writing services prices are probably much to high. If that offends you, please do care to explain.

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by PimpinRice

OP actually made a sales thread for $6

I'll give a proper explanation if you can make a valid question from your first sentence.

Your question was answered with a question, genius :rolleyes:.

Originally Posted by PimpinRice

Also it isn't a fact, it is an opinion, your "opinion" doesn't constitutes others opinion, in which doesn't make it a fact.

Took me a couple of tries to read through that; but it suddenly makes sense as to why you think $4 articles are worthwhile. I never claimed my opinion as fact, so I'm not really sure which orifice you pulled that out of. If we want to take a poll though (and a good start would be to read through this thread), I think we'll find that you are the only one suggesting Freelancing10 is worth less than a penny per word.

Originally Posted by PimpinRice

Unless we can gather data from various entries and criticism from professionals then we can make it a fact that the original poster is indeed talented in his subject.

You do realize that the entire point of this thread was to solicit those opinions, and that various sources and professionals have given their opinion right? There is no question amongst the collective group that the kid is talented; but still has a ways to go.

Originally Posted by PimpinRice

Your move

:rolleyes: It's times like these that I miss trolls like nm5419. At least they had just enough brains to make it interesting. You're too easy.

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PimpinRice

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

Your question was answered with a question, genius :rolleyes:.

I don't know whether that trolling statement you've just stated has any sense of logic in it. I'm pretty sure even a caveman will scratch it's head thinking, "What does he even MEAN!?!?"

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

Took me a couple of tries to read through that

A couple of tries? Boy, probably you shouldn't be breeding, you should really focus on your highly priced egotistical writing services, thinking to yourself, "One day, I'll make it big daddy, one day"... Age 65... "Man my sales thread hasn't even pass 5 pages yet..."

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

I never claimed my opinion as fact, so I'm not really sure which orifice you pulled that out of.

Wow, you're really pulling me leg here. Do you realized by putting in the word "fact" into your sentence, you're not assuming but stating a "claim" that the intended subject is true?!?! You can't even pass simple logic! Not only that you've even put in a "?" which makes the stating sentence a statement or a question? Truly embarrassing!

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

If we want to take a poll though (and a good start would be to read through this thread), I think we'll find that you are the only one suggesting Freelancing10 is worth less than a penny per word.

So you're assuming that people will agreed because you skimmed through the thread and decide others decision that they will agreed? I don't mind a poll as well but you're getting ahead of yourself there. Using others opinion doesn't make your statement any truer, it'll just make yourself look "redonkulous!" Please stop, you're wetting your bed before you even know how to pee.

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

You do realize that the entire point of this thread was to solicit those opinions, and that various sources and professionals have given their opinion right? There is no question amongst the collective group that the kid is talented; but still has a ways to go.

You do realize that you're making a claim that these criticizers are professionals, in which haven't been proven right? I can't jump off a 5000 feet cliff because others jump off the cliff and says there's gold when I reach the floor without proving it.

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

It's times like these that I miss trolls like nm5419. At least they had just enough brains to make it interesting. You're too easy.

LOL who's nm5419? A guy who you think you've made illogical arguments and lame ridicules and won a famous feat? LMAO It should be illegal for you to post, no really. And we should make a poll about it as well.

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cashcow 13 years ago

Originally Posted by PimpinRice

A couple of tries? Boy, probably you shouldn't be breeding, you should really focus on your highly priced egotistical writing services........

So, are you suggesting that if Joe Robinson spent less time breeding and more time writing he would make more money?
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  So, are you suggesting that if Joe Robinson spent less time breeding and more time writing he would make more money?
  
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JohnMcCabe 13 years ago

Originally Posted by PimpinRice

LMAO It should be illegal for you to post, no really. And we should make a poll about it as well.

Why not make the poll more interesting? Let's ask who people would rather see banned, Joe or you.

I'm afraid you might no like the answers...:rolleyes:
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onSubie

13 years ago

Isn't Steve Wozniak the technical genius who sparked the personal computer industry?

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jason17

13 years ago

if want to be good writer.. some one must be have good skill's in english ,
higher skill, higher prices

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by jason17

if want to be good writer.. some one must be have good skill's in english ,
higher skill, higher prices

Exactly. Take this post for example...I believe that we can assume he's not a writer. 15 words and 9 errors. That has to be some sort of record.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by JaRyCu

Exactly. Take this post for example...I believe that we can assume he's not a writer. 15 words and 9 errors. That has to be some sort of record.

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Hi j,

I found someone "correcting" somebody else's mistake. Here's what their "correction" said:

ummm.... john it is "drugs" not "durgs"

(That's cut and paste quote)

This was my response:

1. 'Umm' is typically spelled with one 'm', sometimes two.
2. 'Umm' starts the sentence, and should be capitalized.
3. Technically, the ellipsis signifies missing words, not a pause.
4. Even if the ellipsis were correct, it is a series of three dots, not four.
5. The user name 'John' should be capitalized.
6. There should be a comma after 'John'.
7. You are singling out a specific word ('drugs') and that requires a single quote ( ' ) on both sides of the word, not the double quote ( " ) that you used.
8. A comma would make more sense after 'drugs'.
9. See #6 above, in reference to 'durgs'.
10. The sentence should end with a period.
I don't know how you did it, but you made ten mistakes in only seven words. I'm sure your mom's basement gets lonely, but perhaps you should leave the "correcting" to the big boys.
Just sayin'...

That's right, 10 mistakes in 7 words. I don't make a habit of correcting people, unless they correct others first. This one was just too hard to pass up.

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Kay King 13 years ago

I spent around 2-3 hours doing research for this article. That doesn't count?

You don't get paid for effort - you get paid for writing.

It's not about adding more words or taking away some words. The common advice to "write articles" you see in so many posts - is meaningless. It's just an easy answer to a question so it gets repeated...a lot. There are writers who produce copy only to earn income. There are writers to whom writing comes naturally and is something they've been doing all their life. Different price points.

In the end writing is about "engaging the reader". You can be an expert on a topic and not be able to write well about it.

WRITING is worth good money only when there is personality in the writing or facts presented in an entertaining way. Good writing flows - the reader is caught up in the facts or the theory or the presentation of a story.

Writing is not only a repetition of facts you learned through researching other writing. It's adding interest, a spin, a focus that catches attention.
As you can see, I don't always follow exact grammatical rules. Doesn't keep me from being paid well.

You need to ask yourself if it's worth the time and effort to learn to write better in English. It's not the only language where's there is a demand for content.

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  Alexa Smith Banned 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Freelancing10
  
  I spent around 2-3 hours doing research for this article. That doesn't count?
  
  Not really, no.
  
  If I buy an article from you, I care about what product I get back for my money, what I can use it for, whether it matches my expectations, and whether it'll make me money.
  
  It actually makes no difference to me whether you researched it for half an hour or half a day, does it?
  
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Player87

13 years ago

I must say this is a great thread.

Great pointers for everyone including me!

Well done everyone

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gavindvsaeylr

13 years ago

I mostly skimmed through the last paragraphs, and noticed a lot of grammatical errors. You should work on that. That reason is enough for clients to avoid even hiring you, let alone pay premium charges.

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JerrickYeoh

13 years ago

$0.04 is really cheap for one article . But one article atleast need to be up to 200 words only seen to be an article.
If your article is good and quality , people might spend 100 times to paid you with one article.

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IulianP

13 years ago

I think that the reasearch time doesn't count since that depends on your skill.

Idk, 0.04 I would pay you 0.04 for word in change of a perfect english

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seoproservices

13 years ago

You charges are too much for me... however .02 sounds ok if your quality is good.

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