Is it easier to get work on iWriter or Warrior for Hire?

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I have bills to pay. I am considering writing for iWriter, since I have not been able to get any clients here on the Warrior For Hire.

Eventually I can make $4.05 per 500 words.
20 articles + 30 minutes each, it's about $80

with 10 hours of work.

Of course at first you only get paid $2.43 per 500 words. Until you get 25 reviews.

I tried to offer my services here for a measly $3 per 500 words, and didn't get one client. I would rather charge $5 per 500 words since it's what I think I am worth.

Why is it so hard to get clients here? I feel like iWriter is my only option.

Sites like oDesk and Freelancer require too much time to bid and most will turn you down. I found a customer on Freelancer that pays $2.25 per 500 words, and gave me 31 articles to write. He says that he will keep me busy long-term. For now, I have taken the offer, since I need the money.

Any tips?
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  • Profile picture of the author Hansie koch
    iwriter is growing in popularity as for me buying articles, I get then in a few hours rather than waiting days or even weeks for content. There you can choose to write on topics you actually know about.

    I would advise you to go the iwriter and get solid reviews and then you can start earning some decent money.

    Good luck.

    Go to other forums and offer your service non IM related.This is how I got my content writer that I have spent thousand of $$$ on.
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    • Profile picture of the author Freelancing10
      Originally Posted by Hansie koch View Post

      Go to other forums and offer your service non IM related.This is how I got my content writer that I have spent thousand of $$$ on.
      This is actually a very good idea. Never really thought of it. Thank you.
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      • Profile picture of the author rhinocl
        The good things about iWriter from a writers standpoint:
        You can just grab an article and write it-no bidding no samples.

        The bad things:
        Pay is too low.
        Minimum $20 payout
        Only one payout per week.
        Must have Paypal.
        Can't filter out listings from people who have rejected your past articles.

        Most of the customers don't know how to write decent instructions. Still a good writer will get 90% or better approved.
        The sweet spot is the Premium Category. The Elite Category has a lot of people who reject nearly everything or request things so wierd (ex. write a job application in the form of a press release) that none of us will risk our time writing them. They also sometimes want images, which the system is not set up for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Is it easier to go pick up work on iwriter? Definitely. The articles are already just sitting there, waiting to be written. Is it better? Not if you truly believe your time is worth $.05 per word. iwriter doesn't go above $.02 per word, even with their "elite" projects.

    Another thing to keep in mind: you are banking on there being 20 articles on topics that you can sufficiently write in 30 minutes to be coming in every day. Spend the next few days watching iwriter and the projects that come in. It's not very likely.
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    • Profile picture of the author WebPen
      Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

      Is it easier to go pick up work on iwriter? Definitely. The articles are already just sitting there, waiting to be written. Is it better? Not if you truly believe your time is worth $.05 per word. iwriter doesn't go above $.02 per word, even with their "elite" projects.

      Another thing to keep in mind: you are banking on there being 20 articles on topics that you can sufficiently write in 30 minutes to be coming in every day. Spend the next few days watching iwriter and the projects that come in. It's not very likely.
      Joe's got a good point here. I've written a LOT of articles- some I could put together very quickly, because I already knew a lot about the topic.

      Others would take me 2-3 times as long because either
      1) I had to do a bit of research, or
      2) There's just not much to say

      Seriously- how much can you really write about those lawn light thingies, coffee pots or sinks?
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      • Profile picture of the author Racquel_McFarlane07
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        To succeed in the warrior for hire section, pay attention to which ads receive the most views and the most responses. Pattern your ads after these and I know you will have more clients than you know what to do with. Another thing - Charge what you are worth and make no excuses. Guaranteed a client exists for every type of writer, just decide what type of writer you are.
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        • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
          Originally Posted by Racquel_McFarlane07 View Post

          Charge what you are worth and make no excuses. Guaranteed a client exists for every type of writer, just decide what type of writer you are.
          The first part of that is worth its weight in gold.

          The second part hit me like a ton of mac & cheese. I've never heard writing described like that before, but I really like it.

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  • Profile picture of the author johnes4th
    If you are looking for stop-gap work to get some quick money writing, then TextBroker and Interact Media might be worth a look.

    I have written for both (but it was a long while ago). They pay out and if you are decent at all they will bump your rating (and pay grade) fairly quickly.... I think after 5 articles?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Freelancing10 View Post

    Why is it so hard to get clients here?
    Wrong question - sorry.

    It's not about "why it's hard to get clients here": it's about "why it's hard to get clients for $4/$5 articles". It isn't just you and it isn't just this forum. Writers of $4/$5 articles are permanently advertising for and seeking new clients. And the reasons for that are explained in these posts ...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5544749

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6193605

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6140296

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5979988

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5599417

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5517980

    I'm sorry. I know it isn't immediately very helpful to you. But I think, overall, in the long run, it's probably going to be more helpful than trying to pretend that that isn't the situation? Do something else to pay the bills, rather than writing articles for $3. That makes very little sense at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elluminati
    Writing for $3/$4/$5 per 500 words is like being a crab in a bucket. You'll never get to the top with so many in there with you (okay, maybe not the best analogy). Not only that, but you are showing your desperation and setting yourself up to be slaved in the long run. Once clients/customers see you working for the pennies you agreed to work for, they will expect those prices all the time. Soon, you'll be recommended at those prices and get burnt out sooner than later. Writing 20 articles per day, I can imagine, would be miserable.

    In regards to a Warrior For Hire thread, be creative. Think outside the box. Stand out.

    Do you have a portfolio or website? Reviews for services elsewhere?
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  • Profile picture of the author toby26
    Iwriter is a waynto start. It is quick n do not need to market ur self too much
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarafantrys
    try other forums digital point e.g. offer some review copies to reputable members with high itrader for review and build your reputation. that way it you will start getting some cleints
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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      If you have some good reviews you can put up a $20 ad on Warrior for Hire and get plenty of work. if you do not have any reviews yet then go for iWriter or somewhere else first to get some.
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      • Profile picture of the author RnGWriter
        It is certainly easier to get writing gigs on iwriter.com -in fact iwriter.com is the perfect freelance writing system. All the article assignments are lined up nice and pretty and you are free to write as many or as little as you like. It is the perfect income source for any writer but the problem of course are the abysmal rates. Admittedly back in the hood (Freelancer.com) I was paid a lot less than 2.43 but after three years of writing experience, I think that my time is worth more. Even then, I would not mind using iwriter to pass the time and eventually I got to the Premiere ranking and was paid a whole lot more. My problem was with how little a writer's interests were protected. Clients would give vague and sometimes incorrect instructions and when they would reject my article, I would be the one getting screwed.

        So if you are interested in making it as a writer, i know how it makes a lot sense to post an ad in the Warrior forum but if you think that it is all that it takes........well...........you're in hot soup. Try to develop your business sense because at the end of the day even freelance writers are businessmen. The post where you are offering your services is likely to be bombarded by an avalanche of other posts; often by other writers who are equally if not more qualified than you are. So just a $20 post is not going to cut it. neither is offering articles at low rates because let's face it............there are tons of other people doing just that. You need to offer something more, something that sets your service apart.

        If you want to get paid decent rates (I charge minimum $10 per 500), my advise is to market and to promote your services.
        You can offer a free report or a free consult. You can contribute and share your writing skills with the rest of the WF community. Posting on other IM forums is not going to make a difference in my opinion- a change of scenery is not going to change the problems you are facing. Save some money or clench you teeth and write at a content mill of your choice for a week or two; save around $50. Use that money to buy solo ads or to buy access to the War room. Solo ads can be extremely effective if you can rise above the usual boring copy.

        Ironically, I spent so much time working on my thread and email copy, I got more interested in copy writing instead of content writing. Writers usually do not specialize in both so I am in a sort of cross roads. But I think my marketing strategy is more efficient now; something that will enable me to get more quality clients in the long run.

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  • Profile picture of the author LeeLee
    I have been following the requests at iwriter for a few days now and have discovered a sort of Catch-22.

    I signed up when the site first launched, wrote a few articles and got busy with other projects so I never reached the 30 articles required to upgrade to a higher paid status.

    The other day I got an email from them that they are offering a few more services to clients, one of which I enjoy doing. So I went back to the site to only to find requests for these new services in the higher writer bracket.

    No problem, I figured I would get around to writing the rest of the articles I needed for an upgrade. Only that seems now to be impossible.

    First, in the lower writing bracket there are a lot less requests. I would say like 20-25% of what used to be there. And all are from requesters with very high rejection rates and lots of poor ratings.

    Digging a little deeper, most of the "bargain" requesters leave lower ratings even when they do accept an article.

    So it looks like there is no way to write 30 articles and get reviews good enough to be promoted to a higher level. It only takes a couple poor reviews to pull you down. Seems like a waste of time for anyone new to pursue work at iwriter.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    If you want to lash out and spend $7, you can grab my WSO which has a list of over 100 sites that offer job opportunities, not all for writers though, but more than enough to keep you busy. You can set your your profile on a few and grab jobs and you should be able to do well.
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  • Profile picture of the author doomzday
    I really like iWriter, but unfortunately, they pay out using PayPal only which is not supported in my country.
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