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What to do - Need Warriors Advice on JV issue

by ExpertSEOServices
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Hi Warriors
I need some advice.
I recently JVed with another Warrior here on a flipping venture to broker some sites and manage the listings.
I asked many questions via email including payout details and the warrior agreed I would recieve 5%-10% of the total winning ammount.
This sounded like a good deal to me. I listed the site on my Flippa account, managed the listing and it sold for $7.5K

This was almost 3 weeks ago. The buyer of the site then did the escrow transaction with the Warrior. I have not heard any more from the Warrior since last week when he told me the transaction was complete.

I now have not recieved the 5% commission, not recieved my listing fees and upgrades fees and also there is a $375 outstanding success fee on my Flippa account that is due on the 13th May

I have not heard any more from the Warrior since Saturday after numberous emails and he is un contactable on skype.

What would you do?
Please help!
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Originally Posted by ExpertSEOServices View Post

    Hi Warriors
    I need some advice.
    I recently JVed with another Warrior here on a flipping venture to broker some sites and manage the listings.
    I asked many questions via email including payout details and the warrior agreed I would recieve 5%-10% of the total winning ammount.
    This sounded like a good deal to me. I listed the site on my Flippa account, managed the listing and it sold for $7.5K

    This was almost 3 weeks ago. The buyer of the site then did the escrow transaction with the Warrior. I have not heard any more from the Warrior since last week when he told me the transaction was complete.

    I now have not recieved the 5% commission, not recieved my listing fees and upgrades fees and also there is a $375 outstanding success fee on my Flippa account that is due on the 13th May

    I have not heard any more from the Warrior since Saturday after numberous emails and he is un contactable on skype.

    What would you do?
    Please help!
    I'm not sure what I would do. And since it's already happened you probably don't want to hear what you should have done but I'll go there anyway. Since you set up escrow on this thing you should have had your share taken out via escrow and had them cut your check. That's what escrow is for. Same goes for the fees. They should have been held is escrow and disbursed as soon as the transaction was complete. I don't know how it was set up but if you have a written agreement with your JV partner (detailed email might even be enough) you might be able to show it to the escrow service and salvage something.
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    • Profile picture of the author RSMarketing
      I would do some research about the warrior. Do you have any domain names for the person? "Whois" his domains and grab all the contact info you can find, then call him on the phone, that will get his attention.

      If his domains are whois guarded then look at his domains and find any contact info on his sites. Find out who he's friends with and start contacting them too, he'll get the message when his friends start contacting him saying your clalling them up asking questions about him.

      Post a thread here with his WF name as the title, and ask him to contact you ASAP.

      There's some ideas.

      Rich
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      • Profile picture of the author Dinospider
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        Originally Posted by RSMarketing View Post

        I would do some research about the warrior. Do you have any domain names for the person? "Whois" his domains and grab all the contact info you can find, then call him on the phone, that will get his attention.

        If his domains are whois guarded then look at his domains and find any contact info on his sites. Find out who he's friends with and start contacting them too, he'll get the message when his friends start contacting him saying your clalling them up asking questions about him.

        Post a thread here with his WF name as the title, and ask him to contact you ASAP.

        There's some ideas.

        Rich
        Your not allowed to name anyone you are having problems with on the forum. This is against the warrior forum rules.
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      • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
        Originally Posted by RSMarketing View Post

        I would do some research about the warrior. Do you have any domain names for the person? "Whois" his domains and grab all the contact info you can find, then call him on the phone, that will get his attention.

        If his domains are whois guarded then look at his domains and find any contact info on his sites. Find out who he's friends with and start contacting them too, he'll get the message when his friends start contacting him saying your clalling them up asking questions about him.

        Post a thread here with his WF name as the title, and ask him to contact you ASAP.

        There's some ideas.

        Rich
        Thanks Rich
        I have done some research he seems tp have a few jv offers. No bad feedback though. His domains whois are guarded.
        I see he has recently posted on the forum a few days ago so I will try posting a message here with his details. Hope mods won't delete it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dinospider
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        Originally Posted by Jon Penberthy View Post

        This is a great idea, that should get their attention...Failing that the attention of others and possibly people who know them.

        No point, this would be deleted in a matter of minutes.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      I'm not sure what I would do. And since it's already happened you probably don't want to hear what you should have done but I'll go there anyway. Since you set up escrow on this thing you should have had your share taken out via escrow and had them cut your check. That's what escrow is for. Same goes for the fees. They should have been held is escrow and disbursed as soon as the transaction was complete. I don't know how it was set up but if you have a written agreement with your JV partner (detailed email might even be enough) you might be able to show it to the escrow service and salvage something.
      Damn! I didn't know you could do this through Escrow is this new? I always do my transactions with Paypal on Flippa as I don't normally sell sites of such high value.
      Do you think I can still contact escrow with the details?
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      • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
        Originally Posted by ExpertSEOServices View Post

        Damn! I didn't know you could do this through Escrow is this new? I always do my transactions with Paypal on Flippa as I don't normally sell sites of such high value.
        Do you think I can still contact escrow with the details?
        I have no idea what your part in this was. You mention you were supposed to get 5 - 10 percent. Which is it? What were you supposed to do to get it? That stuff all needs to be spelled out in an agreement and presented to escrow when it's opened.

        You might try contacting them but if the check has been cut to your partner it's likely to be too late. Again, you haven't given enough details. Maybe you need to chalk this up to experience. I'd start bearing down a bit more on the JV guy though. Maybe he's got a legit reason for not communicating with you.
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    Just heard from him!
    Perhaps he was reading this thread.
    Claims he had virus on computer
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    • Profile picture of the author Dinospider
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      Originally Posted by ExpertSEOServices View Post

      Just heard from him!
      Perhaps he was reading this thread.
      Claims he had virus on computer
      Great stuff! at least it's on the way to being sorted out!
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    Just heard from him!
    Perhaps he was reading this thread.
    Claims he had virus on computer
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    Flippa have now taken the $375 directly from my account! I am now in minus!
    Still nothing from the Warrior since his last email on Friday!

    He now owes me
    $375 Success Fee
    $74 Flippa Fees
    Plus 5% of auction which sold for $7.5K

    I am very unhappy!

    Warrior Support told me there was nothing they could do just be patient for him to come online.
    He has not been active on the forum since 30th April

    Help I don't know what to do!
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    • Profile picture of the author TheBizHelp
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      Originally Posted by ExpertSEOServices View Post

      Flippa have now taken the $375 directly from my account! I am now in minus!
      Still nothing from the Warrior since his last email on Friday!

      He now owes me
      $375 Success Fee
      $74 Flippa Fees
      Plus 5% of auction which sold for $7.5K

      I am very unhappy!

      Warrior Support told me there was nothing they could do just be patient for him to come online.
      He has not been active on the forum since 30th April

      Help I don't know what to do!
      Nah nah nah! I thought you said you heard from him some moments back? What on earth is happening? PM me some of his relevant details let me sacrifice some time to help you get this sort out.

      Please remember, no guarantees but will surely do my 'bestest'... okay?
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      • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
        Originally Posted by Louis K Kennedy View Post

        Nah nah nah! I thought you said you heard from him some moments back? What on earth is happening? PM me some of his relevant details let me sacrifice some time to help you get this sort out.

        Please remember, no guarantees but will surely do my 'bestest'... okay?
        I have sent you a PM.
        Yeah he responded to my email on Friday saying he had a virus but that was last I heard and Flippa automatically took the success fee from my Paypal last night.

        Really appreciate your help
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
    You will find that most people on this forum are honest and honor their joint agreements. I couldn't sleep if I didn't honor the agreement and it's not fair that your liable for all the flipping fees.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
      Originally Posted by Ross Petal View Post

      You will find that most people on this forum are honest and honor their joint agreements. I couldn't sleep if I didn't honor the agreement and it's not fair that your liable for all the flipping fees.
      Thanks for your comment. I think its totally out of order and feel like a mug now for agreeing to this.
      I don't know what to do now. Have emailed the buyer of the site to ask if the transaction was completed if not I guess I can dispute it through Flippa but then am I at risk of the buyer getting in trouble?
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  • Profile picture of the author TheBizHelp
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    Good to hear you've heard from him...
    Time to claim your trophy.. Goodluck!

    I'll PM you for similar proposal when I'm done with my project.

    Kennedy
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    • Profile picture of the author slayer0x59
      That is definitely unjust. He should honor your agreement as soon as he is able to. If he has problems with his PC or ISP he should be able to get some other possible ways to contact you.
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      • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
        Originally Posted by slayer0x59 View Post

        That is definitely unjust. He should honor your agreement as soon as he is able to. If he has problems with his PC or ISP he should be able to get some other possible ways to contact you.
        Agreed! I have his Skype too which he never uses.
        He could always go to an internet cafe to email if he can't use the PC in his office or house.
        'Plus what IM marketer doesn't have access to email on their mobiles these days.
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    HELP! I have just got this email from the buyer

    Hello,

    I have sent numerous emails to ******* asking him to send me the following:

    *************

    Without the information above the website is worthless.

    I will be taking legal action if I do not receive the information above this week.
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  • Profile picture of the author NBaller
    Are the two of you from the USA? You're at the point where you need to at least threaten legal action against him. If a PayPal payment was made by the buyer, he SHOULD have access to the seller's address and possibly name. Ask the buyer for this information.

    Keep all e-mail transactions between the two of you and get any proof you can that the guy who you worked with had previous ownership of the website.

    Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
      Originally Posted by NBaller View Post

      Are the two of you from the USA? You're at the point where you need to at least threaten legal action against him. If a PayPal payment was made by the buyer, he SHOULD have access to the seller's address and possibly name. Ask the buyer for this information.

      Keep all e-mail transactions between the two of you and get any proof you can that the guy who you worked with had previous ownership of the website.

      Mike
      Hi Mike,
      I am not from the US. But I think the Warrior who I partnered with is. The transaction was made through Escrow not Paypal. Will the buyer have his details? The buyer is from Canada.
      I have kept all emails to and from the Warrior.
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  • Profile picture of the author NBaller
    Hi,

    I checked my escrow.com account and e-mails to see what information was shared during transactions. Unfortunately, the most I get is the other party's full name. Do you have this already? If so, you may be able to begin tracking the guy down with this information if the name is unique enough.

    Unfortunately, since you are not a USA citizen, taking the seller to small claims court is likely out of the question (although, I am not a lawyer, so I don't know for sure).

    I wish you the best of luck and will let members of my course know about this thread. I will direct them back here to share any advice if they can help you.

    Best regards and best of luck. I hope the end result is positive.

    Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author mrelk159
    I hope this will get resolved soon, it is never fun being scammed.
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  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    He has scammed me and scammed someone through Flippa.

    I listed an auction for him and it sold for $7.5K
    Buyer paid him direct through Escrow.

    I had to pay listing fees and success fee and was promised 5% of winning fee after escrow processed.

    Now I hear nothing from this seller!!!
    Its been a week and no reply

    He has scammed the buyer for $7.5K

    Scammed me for $375 plus $74 listing fee
    Plus 3 days of my time managing the auction
    Plus my Flippa account

    Plus I lost the 5% he was supposed to give me!!!

    This warrior should be banned and not allowed to list any JVs or sell anything on this forum!!!


    Marc if you are reading this GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK!!!

    If anyone has worked with him and has a phone number or any details I cannot find anything but an email adress for him please help
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  • Profile picture of the author weupliftyou
    I hate to say it, but you should not have been involved in a sketchy deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author powerstrike
    sorry to hear that this happened to you, you may not want to hear this if your the one who did the listing you should have been the one to receive the funds first and then give him his portion of the money afterwards. because your the one who has more to lose.
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