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Is Godaddy's Backorder Legal? My Very Own Domain Name Can Be Back-ordered!

by TheBizHelp Banned
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I need some advice on this. I got a very awesome and highly promising domain name that I want to get my hands on.

The problem is that this domain name is already taken but I went and tried registering the same domain name with Godaddy. Godaddy said it has already been taken but that I can make a back order of the domain with $20.

Meanwhile, I tried doing the same thing as a test with my very own domain names registered with them only to discover that I can still register my very own domains that were registered with them via backorder!! ??

Is this not insane and very illegal as well? What if the domain owner files a charge against me??

I'm Really disturbed.. Your thoughts please.
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  • Profile picture of the author zabolord
    I think what backordering is, is when your domain name expires and you dont fix it in a set number of time, whoever backordered your domain name first will get it. ... SO in essense it is legal.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheBizHelp
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      Originally Posted by zabolord View Post

      I think what backordering is, is when your domain name expires and you dont fix it in a set number of time, whoever backordered your domain name first will get it. ... SO in essense it is legal.
      So, Zabolord, You really think it has expired? But one of my domain names that will be expiring in the next 8 months could be backordered by myself when I ran the test!

      If it is actually legal, then I am right on my way to get it because the exact domain name gets about 400 searches per month. I need more thoughts on this please.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by Louis K Kennedy View Post

    Meanwhile, I tried doing the same thing as a test with my very own domain names registered with them only to discover that I can still register my very own domains that were registered with them via backorder!! ??

    Is this not insane and very illegal as well? What if the domain owner files a charge against me??

    I'm Really disturbed.. Your thoughts please.
    Of course it's legal. You do know that no one actually owns the domain name ... that you are simply renting it until you no longer want it. Let it expire and anyone can grab it. That's why people backorder domains, hoping someone will let it expire.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Louis K Kennedy View Post

    Is this not insane and very illegal as well?
    No, not in the slightest.

    Originally Posted by Louis K Kennedy View Post

    What if the domain owner files a charge against me??
    For what?!

    I think you've misunderstood, on a rather fundamental level, what "backordering" means. It's not registering the domain-name. It's simply notifying a registrar that IF the domain becomes available in future because the person to whom it's currently registered decides not to renew his registration of it, then you'd like to register it.

    It's very similar to notifying the agent of the landlord of an apartment that if their current tenant doesn't exercise his right to renew the lease next time round, you'd like to rent the property yourself.

    Where's the problem? :confused:
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    • Profile picture of the author TheBizHelp
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      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      No, not in the slightest.



      For what?!

      I think you've misunderstood, on a rather fundamental level, what "backordering" means. It's not registering the domain-name. It's simply notifying a registrar that IF the domain becomes available in future because the person to whom it's currently registered decides not to renew his registration of it, then you'd like to register it.

      It's very similar to notifying the agent of the landlord of an apartment that if their current tenant doesn't exercise his right to renew the lease next time round, you'd like to rent the property yourself.

      Where's the problem? :confused:
      Okay... now do I understand the concept behind 'backordering'. I actually thought it is the actual registration of the domain because I'm not experienced with this domain stuff.

      In that case, I would have to rest my ass and keep brainstorming !! I really wanted to start up some powerful blog with this great domain name.

      But, well... the domain does not display when typed on the address bar.

      I would in this case save my 20 bucks because I would never think the owner would want to release it. It is in fact a premium domain name that could sell for thousands of dollars.

      Thank you,

      Kennedy.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

      What if a domain that you have back ordered never becomes available, your out the money you have paid,

      I guess you have to look at it like an Insurance policy, you make monthly payments and you may never need to call on the policy but it is there for that one day that you may need it.
      True, you do lose the money, plus I don't think that backordering with guarantee you the domain even if it does become available. I think it could still go to auction and you would be notified that you can bid on it.

      Here's some pretty good info on the backordering process

      Backorder Domains: Learn How Domain Backorders Work - Registercompass
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      • Profile picture of the author TheBizHelp
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        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        True, you do lose the money, plus I don't think that backordering with guarantee you the domain even if it does become available. I think it could still go to auction and you would be notified that you can bid on it.

        Here's some pretty good info on the backordering process

        Backorder Domains: Learn How Domain Backorders Work - Registercompass
        In that case I should save my money for something better. Another good brainstorming session could make me get some better domain name.

        Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robby54
    I think the Back-Order feature is only useful when the original domain owner dose not renew in time or at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author equanto
    It's legal..
    but, if you take from someone who still need it, (maybe it's his primary income)
    are you can?
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    • Profile picture of the author davezan
      Originally Posted by equanto View Post

      It's legal..
      but, if you take from someone who still need it, (maybe it's his primary income)
      are you can?
      If that happens, the previous domain owner can take that up with their registrar
      or reseller if: a) they were charged for renewing, and b) the domain didn't renew
      like it should have, and c) it was subsequently backordered then acquired by its
      new owner. Why does the new owner owe anything to the previous owner if the
      latter didn't renew his domain on time and was later picked up?
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  • Profile picture of the author GlobalTrader
    If your backorder is through GoDaddy you will not lose your money (unless things have changed since I backordered domains?) - it will continue to be backordered until the next expiration date (I believe) or you may opt to cancel the backorder and you will have a backorder credit available on their system that you may then use to backorder another domain.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by GlobalTrader View Post

      If your backorder is through GoDaddy you will not lose your money (unless things have changed since I backordered domains?) - it will continue to be backordered until the next expiration date (I believe) or you may opt to cancel the backorder and you will have a backorder credit available on their system that you may then use to backorder another domain.
      Well, the link I posted says:

      Just a Note: It is highly recommended that you do NOT use Godaddy to backorder your domains!!

      Why?

      Very simple: All domains that are successfully backordered through Godaddy will ultimately end up in a PUBLIC Auction through their TDNAM Service service. This service allows anyone to bid auction style on the domains. Since this is a public auction the possibility of more competition is highly likely will could drive the price very high. You may have to pay much more for the domain than you are willing to pay. Someone will win the domain in public auction which simply leaves you right back where you started - hoping for that domain to become free game again.
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  • Profile picture of the author WraithSarko
    i ordered godaddy backorder on a domain i wanted in 2005, forgot all about it until 2011 when godaddy finally got the name for me.

    for my money it's useless. any domain that is really worth something will be bid up and snatched by someone who is willing to really pay for it.

    if it's a domain name that has specific value to YOU but not much value to the general public then you might have the chance to backorder it and get it one day.

    i also heard that even if your backorder is successful and the domain is transferred to you, the original owner can still swoop in on you a few months later and get it back. so if you do get the backorder succesfully, I would wait a few months before i built on it, just in case the old owner does get it back.

    I'm no expert on this tho, due ur due dilligence
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    • Profile picture of the author davezan
      Originally Posted by WraithSarko View Post

      i also heard that even if your backorder is successful and the domain is transferred to you, the original owner can still swoop in on you a few months later and get it back.
      Correct, though that depends on the registrar's or backorder provider's policies.
      Go Daddy has that somewhere in their site, which is weirdly not showing up for
      me for now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fireworks Freelancer
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    Backordering is not illegal, I think you misunderstood the concept. Good luck since others have explained it in details to you.

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  • Profile picture of the author karlmay1980
    You can backorder it but that doesn't mean you will ever get it, as long as the owner never lets its registration run out and the 28 day cooling off period after that then you wont get it, same with your domain keep renewing it and they can't buy it either, backorder or not!

    That is why it is legal because you only get it if it comes back up for grabs.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    I wont be using Godaddy's backordering service again. They're dirty.
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    • Profile picture of the author zacsmith
      I backordered a domain of my own that I lost (neglected to renew it). It was registered through Godaddy. They wanted $80 to reclaim it, so I decided to place a back order on it and grab it when it came up back in the pool.

      Well, it never did revert to the domain pool. Instead, GoDaddy grabbed it and has not released it or sold it, instead putting on of their own parking pages on it.

      No big loss, as I had not developed it, but I lost trust in GD in that instant. I transferred out 35 domains and have never looked back.

      I exclusively use NameCheap. They don't pull that kind of crap.
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