How can I accomplish this (password to website, membership, physical product)...

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Ok, here's what I want to end up with (possible?)...

Sell a physical product (booklet + physical 'gizmo'), and INSIDE the booklet is a unique sign-in password to a website.

Also, want to have that password only be good for a limited number of *visits* to the site. Like 100 visits. Then, after visit #1, the password is only good for 99 more visits, etc. until all the visits are "used up."

Is all that possible with minimum of hassle?

How do I generate unique passwords for each booklet generated? There would only be a total of 3,000-5,000 booklets generated, I think.

Basically, my overall problem is, I am selling to a very tightly "knit" community (niche). Once the cat is out of the bag, anyone can USE the product once the links to the web content is accessible to all VIA THE SHARING of the password(s) to the site. In other words, person A buys the product (booklet + 'gizmo'), then they spread the password around to the site, then anyone can use the site without paying for it!

I need to figure out how to MINIMIZE this non-paying/sharing problem.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

-- TW
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  • Profile picture of the author Freedom66K
    Originally Posted by TimothyW View Post

    Basically, my overall problem is, I am selling to a very tightly "knit" community (niche). Once the cat is out of the bag, anyone can USE the product once the links to the web content is accessible to all VIA THE SHARING of the password(s) to the site. In other words, person A buys the product (booklet + 'gizmo'), then they spread the password around to the site, then anyone can use the site without paying for it!

    I need to figure out how to MINIMIZE this non-paying/sharing problem.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks!

    -- TW
    Why don't you just monitor their logins and make sure they're not connecting from multiple ip addresses at the same time?
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  • Profile picture of the author TimothyW
    they could still share the site's address + visit it at different times (chances are they would not be visiting at the same time, any way)
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    • Profile picture of the author Freedom66K
      Originally Posted by TimothyW View Post

      they could still share the site's address + visit it at different times (chances are they would not be visiting at the same time, any way)
      I don't mean at the same time literally, I mean flag their accounts if you see multiple IPs log in during the same day, or if there are more than 3 IPs or so in a one week period.

      Would be easy to code and you wouldn't have the problem of limiting people who legitimately visit the site 99 times or whatever.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan Donrew
    You can use a PHP function to login onto each users account via 1 ip address

    If you are interested i can build this function for you here and post it here.
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  • Profile picture of the author CrossHash
    If your members are giving away their password, they are short changing themselves .. however ..

    1. log the IP
    2. you can generate unique 'codes' either based on php microseconds ( then obfuscate the result ) or php guid ( generates a user ID like your windows product ID )
    3. add you countdown to logins

    If this is a physical book: About 14 years ago I had a client who produces their own version of the michelin guide ( for restaurants ) as a book for their subscribed members. I had never done anything in the form of pinting books ... however, I took on the task knowing anything was possible .. if you have the right tools. I learnt pagemaker and discovered you could create what was called a pagemaker tag file ... basically, its a standard text file but with its own version of tags .. similar to html ..

    The pagemaker tag file took data from reps around australia .. which was then compiled into an online database of ( at the time ) over 30,000 records .. 63 possibilities of listing ( bold, red , underlined , colour pic or mono ) and 80 pieces of data for each entry.

    One the 'go' button was pushed, the server which held the code and the website, 'built' the pagemaker tag file ... this was then imported into the template for the book layout ...

    The result being, the book saved as a pagemaker file ready for print.
    My point .. you can print these as a published book and have the individual code inserted as well .. you could even personalise them for the individual ... this can also be achieved through php pdf if you want to go that way ..
    I hope that helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author braincandy7
    If you use S2member (wp plugin) it will log the number of visits from each member. It will (if set to) freeze accounts which are seen to use many different IPs.

    You cannot set it to countdown limit on each page but you can set different membership levels which each type of member can have, meaning that for example "Platinum level" woudl have access to all pages whereas "Silver" may just have access to 25% of the pages (which you choose) on each page.

    You can also set individual passwords for each page.

    If you wanted to intergrate Paypal for any recurring membership fees you can also do this and s2member will monitor the subscriptions and set the accounts back to "free" "downgraded" or whatever if they skip payment

    Hope this helps. If you need help with s2member plugin setup i am more than happy to give a few pointers.
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  • Profile picture of the author ravijayagopal
    DigitalAccessPass.com (DAP) has an IP-locking feature that will lock user's accounts if it gets used from more than "X" number of IP's (where "X" is configurable). And only admin can unlock the user again - so you'll know who is sharing their login info).

    And while DAP doesn't have a "login countdown" feature, you can set finite expiration for your content at a PER USER level. So everyone gets their own access start and end days (or dates), after which the content will no longer be available to them (but will be available to others who are still eligible for it). So it's like a personalized content sequence.

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