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Banned 12 years ago

For Me every wso is Failed , why they are selling their "how i made 6,000 in one month" for only 20$ or 30$ , they are all failed , they are here with there not working products

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Mike Hill

12 years ago

Originally Posted by awaiszafar

For Me every wso is Failed , why they are selling their "how i made 6,000 in one month" for only 20$ or 30$ , they are all failed , they are here with there not working products

Put aside the fact their are some WSO's that are not as good as you had hoped but surely out of all the WSO's you have bought you must have found one good one?

The problem mostly reflects back to the buyer. Now don't take this the wrong way but how long did you try implementing the methods in the WSO's you have bought in the past?

A lot of people think that buying a WSO will make them successful but it's just an idea, a plan or technique. You still have to build a business and that falls onto each of us as individuals.

Sure, you can get information on how to build a business but it's you that still has to do the work, it's you that has to figure out what's not working and fix it.

When buying a product you still have to make decisions on your own, you have to put in the work and you have to identify what's not working and fix it. Success comes from making more good decisions than bad ones.

That's the problem really... No one wants to think or do not posses the skills to make good decisions to make things work.

If I were you I'd stop looking for a magic bullet and start implementing some of those WSO's you bought and if it fails figure out were you're going wring and make it work. In order to do that you need to track absolutely everything you do online and see what's working and do more of that.

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Cool Hand Luke

12 years ago

Originally Posted by awaiszafar

For Me every wso is Failed , why they are selling their "how i made 6,000 in one month" for only 20$ or 30$ , they are all failed , they are here with there not working products

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onSubie

12 years ago

Originally Posted by awaiszafar

For Me every wso is Failed , why they are selling their "how i made 6,000 in one month" for only 20$ or 30$ , they are all failed , they are here with there not working products

Many IMers who make real money from another revenue stream sell courses on how to duplicate their business.

It is always good to find another stream of income. $6,000/m is not very much. After you pay business expenses, rent, taxes and a car there isn't much left. Adding another $2,000/m from WSO's or another $1,200 doing offline consulting is part of diversifying your business.

While it is true that many WSOs are "do what I say not what I do" products from a "WSO only" business, there are many successful warriors honestly sharing their business strategies in WSOs.

Mahlon

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LilBlackDress

12 years ago

Originally Posted by warriorforum1997

Hi this time its Hard to find good wso , I buy alot wso but for me not any wso help me for my websites so Here you all guys share Your experience about wso , is there any wso worked for you or you find your favourite wso Worst WSO ever
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Best bet is to buy a WSO that is in the area you plan to make money with. Dont just buy randomly. If you want to make money with product creation -find a WSO on that. if the goal is to make money with Kindle find a product on that.

Best practice is to do due diligence, read the reviews, buy from a trusted member etc.

There are a lot of quality WSO's out there.

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cjreynolds

12 years ago

Originally Posted by LilBlackDress

Best bet is to buy a WSO that is in the area you plan to make money with. Dont just buy randomly. If you want to make money with product creation -find a WSO on that. if the goal is to make money with Kindle find a product on that.

Best practice is to do due diligence, read the reviews, buy from a trusted member etc.

There are a lot of quality WSO's out there.

I like what she said

(it's taken me awhile to figure this out).

If you come into the WSO thing thinking "I want a blueprint to 'make money online'", chances are you're not going to see much success, unless you're one of those rare lucky few that happen to grab the right plan, pick the right niche, right keywords, and make a home run first time around. Don't count on being one of those...

It seems the best way to get value from WSOs is to get your arms around IM, figure out what type of business you want to try, and find WSOs to accomplish that - like she said!

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Dragontech

12 years ago

Having too many of them will make you fail as your subconscious mind probably is looking for quick cash methods, which in most cases are fated to fail.

Having a few quality ones that you're interested in and will promise yourself to take massive action no matter how tough it seems before you purchase may be the way to go.

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condra 12 years ago

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Paul Myers

12 years ago

The first two posts in this thread are from the same IP.

Guess what, folks. You're being trolled.

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Tina Golden 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

The first two posts in this thread are from the same IP.

Guess what, folks. You're being trolled.

Wasn't that obvious? The English skills in both posts are the same.
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- Paul Myers 12 years ago
  
  Tina,
  
  Wasn't that obvious? The English skills in both posts are the same.
  
  Not everyone sees that. We can get used to certain types of broken English, given the scope of the membership.
  
  Just figured I'd let people know for sure.
  
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MikeTucker 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

The first two posts in this thread are from the same IP.

Guess what, folks. You're being trolled.

I just bookmarked this thread for the
next time someone claims that you
are a tyrant... I would have nuked this
thread and banned the spamming little
troll, even with the good responses
from a couple of our better Warriors.
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John Durham 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

The first two posts in this thread are from the same IP.

Guess what, folks. You're being trolled.

Nice catch.

As far as the OP what most people find is that what they end up doing is a culmination of ALOT of things they have learned. Most describe a day when it "all came together" for them. Learn from everything you can in your area of interest, and increase your understanding...even from this thread as Paul has so wisely left it here for others learning.
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Paul Myers

12 years ago

Ya know, I have to wonder why such a huge percentage of the WSO bashers and general WF slammers are posting from Pakistan. It's waaaaaay beyond what would be normal for the size of that group.

I'm starting to think we should just block the whole country. Seriously. They generate an absurd percentage of the problem posts and spam. Of course, that would just push the actual paying customers to take their outsourcing back to Malaysia or India.

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Sanwal

12 years ago

Wow Paul, so some spammers spam warrior forum and mostly are from pakistan, so you ban the whole country?

You will always find these types of idiots all around the internet, i agree many people from our country are really unprofessional, and most of them just spam but not everybody.

Anyways i understand your concerns and the silly people just trying to ruin our country by doing wrong all the time.

I was just reading through all the posts on WF and came through this, just wanted to give my regards.

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MikeTucker

12 years ago

Originally Posted by GeraldGigerl

It's better to study less, but apply more.

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Gerald,Words to live by.

You learn many times more from information you actually apply, even if it doesn't work the way you'd hoped. And you're likely to discover the nuances that even the best teachers can forget to include, or simply not be aware are factors.

You can get plenty information from studying, but you only gain understanding from doing.

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onSubie

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Ghufran1

Wow Paul, so some spammers spam warrior forum and mostly are from pakistan, so you ban the whole country?

You will always find these types of idiots all around the internet, i agree many people from our country are really unprofessional, and most of them just spam but not everybody.

Anyways i understand your concerns and the silly people just trying to ruin our country by doing wrong all the time.

I was just reading through all the posts on WF and came through this, just wanted to give my regards.

Cheers,
Sanwal

But you did notice his remark that they are merely doing the outsourced work of non-pakistan businesses and marketers, right?

Mahlon

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Sanwal 12 years ago

Originally Posted by onSubie

But you did notice his remark that they are merely doing the outsourced work of non-pakistan businesses and marketers, right?

Mahlon

Yeah, my bad just skimmed through the paragraphs, should have read it with more attention..
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- salegurus 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Paul Myers
  
  Paul
  
  Edit: Excuse me. 17.47% of the global population is from India, so just over 1 in 6. Not 1 in 5, as I stated originally.
  
  Actually 17.49%, geez Paul get your facts straight.
  Seriously though, how do you check IP's or is it classified?
  
  Originally Posted by Ghufran1
  
  Yeah, my bad just skimmed through the paragraphs, should have read it with more attention..
  
  Must say i agree your English is rather impressive.
  
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  Paul Myers 12 years ago
  
  Theo,
  
  Seriously though, how do you check IP's or is it classified?
  
  There's an extra icon in the left sidebar that's visible to mods. You hover the mouse over it and it shows you the IP used for that post.
  
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Paul Myers 12 years ago

Sanwal,

Wow Paul, so some spammers spam warrior forum and mostly are from pakistan, so you ban the whole country?

It's the ratio. The folks doing this are mostly just people doing a job, and getting paid by someone else. Usually some idiot "SEO" type who's paying them to post a ton of stuff, with links in the signatures.

When the Philippines were the cheapest place to easily get outsourcers, they were the majority of the problem. Then it moved to India, which is still a very significant source of spam. But, and this is a big but, roughly one person in 5 on the entire planet is Indian, and a huge chunk of our membership comes from there, so the ratio isn't that heavily skewed.

The exception is in the SEO section. Nearly all the spam in there is from India.

We have a fair number of Pakistani members who are valuable contributors. The thing is, Pakistan is now the main place for certain types of companies to send their outsourced jobs, and the spam and abusive posting from there is ridiculously out of proportion to the legitimate members.

If we banned Pakistan, the work would just be shipped out to Bangladesh, which is the new up-and-comer. Or back to India or Malaysia. This isn't a people problem. It's an economic problem.

The creeps aren't the ones actually doing the posting. The creeps are the ones paying for it.

Paul

Edit: Excuse me. 17.47% of the global population is from India, so just over 1 in 6. Not 1 in 5, as I stated originally.
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- Kay King 12 years ago
  
  The good news is - some creep actually had to pay for those two posts.
  
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  Paul Myers 12 years ago
  
  Kay,
  
  The good news is - some creep actually had to pay for those two posts.
  
  Maybe. It's not certain the poster was paid to bash. They might just have their own reasons, and even believe what they said. The issue with those is that the posts came from the same IP, so it was a troll, no matter the motivation.
  
  There are plenty of reasonable people with objections to how things are done here. I agree with some of those, in fact. But the reality is, you are not going to be able to run a place like this, with as many people as are members and as much benefit as there is to be had here, and make everyone happy.
  
  Nobody thinks the place is perfect. We just keep working to make it better.
  
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Paul Myers

12 years ago

Mike,

I nuked them both, but the thread serves as a useful example, even without the helpful responses.

As far as the rest, I prefer the term "in loco tyrannis."

Paul

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Gerald Arno

Banned 12 years ago

As a newbie it makes sense to by Ebooks for lots of cheap information. You definitely want to inform yourself about multiple niches first, before you make a bigger commitment.

A lot of WSOs are very informative, but definitely not practical because it's difficult to implement for a newbie or someone with no experience.

I like to buy a lot of books and get coached in niches where I want to excel. The best thing you can do is to absorb as much information as you can, and apply as much as you can.

It's better to study less, but apply more.

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Paul Myers 12 years ago

Gerald,

It's better to study less, but apply more.

Words to live by.

You learn many times more from information you actually apply, even if it doesn't work the way you'd hoped. And you're likely to discover the nuances that even the best teachers can forget to include, or simply not be aware are factors.

You can get plenty information from studying, but you only gain understanding from doing.

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Chrisbroholm

12 years ago

I'm not really that into buying WSOs but I personally enjoy content packs like PLR, ready-made-businesses and amazon review packs.

I rarely buy information WSOs like (ten fold your traffic!) or (make $$$$$ every month on autopilot!) most of these are just ****ty rehashed ideas that are on public display all over the forum and web and rarely worth the money in my humble opinion.

I guess some softwares are interesting, but I feel like a lot of the time the software doesn't really give enough benefits for me to spend money on it. It's usually just API software presenting data in a more neat way. Like keywords software. I personally think that google keywords tool is amazing and I wouldn't dream paying $97 for some software to do that particular task.

The best WSO to date though I admit has to be the hypnosis WSO from Steve Meade, it's really pushing me to work harder every day.

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semrawut

12 years ago

carefully before buying .... the testimonial not necessarily accurate ... it could be just seller's friends ...... i think if they sell ebook with Bombastic Header, it's not necessarily a secret method, you can find their method Free, just ask google.....

n for me (my opinion), the quality WSO usually if they provide some services

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Sanwal

12 years ago

Agreed with you, people over here are willing to do anything for a few bucks. I'm 17 myself and joined warrior forum when i was 16 not knowing under 18s were allowed so registered from my dads name..

I would never outsource stuff from my own country, have done it twice in the past when i first started out and all turned out to be scammers.

People are ill-literate over here, I've yet to see a professional company over here, I totally understand your concerns and if it happened to me i would even get really pissed off by all this.

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Paul Myers 12 years ago

Sanwal,

People are ill-literate over here,

Let's put that in perspective... Your English is a heck of a lot better than my Urdu.

As far as professionalism, you skimmed a post that could have been seen as racist if one missed the critical part, and you still replied in a measured and polite way.

I'd say you were a fair representation of our regular members from Pakistan. Not exactly creating a bad image for your homeland.

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- ShayB 12 years ago
  
  Yes, I know that trolls started the thread, but I just had an experience that relates to this discussion.
  
  I have had pizza that was great. Fabulous. Made we want more.
  
  I've also had pizza that was horrible. I don't go back to those places.
  
  If I try a new place, I know it's a chance it might suck, or it might be my new favorite pizza joint.
  
  Same with WSOs. Some people produce stuff I love. Some don't. When I buy from someone new, I know I take a chance.
  
  I don't buy a whole lot of WSOs now (unless it's in a few certain areas/niches), but there was a definite learning curve when I was a newbie.
  
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JohnLeonard

12 years ago

I know this is a troll started thread but WSO's are great....

I prefer the tools .....If you are running a good business with a clear direction the benefits of the tools like graphics packs, wordpress themes and plugins and templates etc.....As long as they make your job a little easier and free up some time to work on another aspect of your business you really can never complain about a WSO....

Sometimes you will grab an ebook or a course full of stuff you already know....But there is always something you can take from it....Even if its an idea on how the whole thing was put together....

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salegurus

12 years ago

Thanks Paul
I thought it was a bit more complicated.

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