Safe place to host a domain

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Hello all,

I saw in a thread that one should not buy the domain and the hosting service from the same provider - this makes sense.

In that case, where is the best place to put a domain?

TIA
#domain #host #place #safe
  • Profile picture of the author mindreaderwriter
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    Originally Posted by dgmufasa View Post

    Hello all,
    I saw in a thread that one should not buy the domain and the hosting service from the same provider - this makes sense.
    TIA
    I respect your take to that. Let's say your domain is registered to GoDaddy and it's hosted by HostGator. If HostGator is down, would you still be able to access your website during that downtime period? Same goes if you GoDaddy is conducing a system maintenance. Even if HostGator is up, what will it show up if your domain is currently unavailable?

    Personally, it does not make sense to me why would you put up your domain and hosting separate.

    Originally Posted by dgmufasa View Post

    In that case, where is the best place to put a domain?
    I would recommend you to set up both to HostGator. I am into GoDaddy this year but I'll transfer my site to HostGator before my contract with them ends.

    I hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by dgmufasa View Post

      I saw in a thread that one should not buy the domain and the hosting service from the same provider - this makes sense.
      Yes, this is pretty clear.

      Originally Posted by dgmufasa View Post

      In that case, where is the best place to put a domain?
      This is all personal preference, and opinion. For myself, I like to register at Namecheap, host at Hostgator or TypePad, and never have anything to do with GoDaddy at all. Others will have different ideas, of course. But the most important thing is just to keep registration and hosting separate.

      Originally Posted by mindreaderwriter View Post

      Personally, it does not make sense to me why would you put up your domain and hosting separate.
      Would you like it to make sense to you?

      This forum (just like many other IM forums) is full of "horror stories" of the unforeseen "accidents" (some of them in fact "business disasters") which people could so easily have avoided simply by registering and hosting in two different places.

      Having the registration and the hosting in the same place is really very inadvisable. In a sense, admittedly, it only really matters if/when something goes wrong. (But, as we all know, that "only happens all the time"). If your host isn't also your registrar, then in the event of any accident/problem, if anything ever goes wrong with your hosting, you're in control, not them. And can avoid nightmares, disasters, long delays and entirely unexpected "ransom demands". And can re-host your site somewhere else the next day, minimising the commercial interruption.

      Brad expresses it very well, with several well-known examples of the easily avoidable disasters, in this post.

      It's one of those issues which so many people look at and think to themselves "Eew, well, those are all other people and they must have done something wrong: it wouldn't ever happen to me". :rolleyes: :p

      Until someone on one of their lists reports them, even with absolutely no justification at all, to their host for alleged "spamming" and their website disappears and the host (in accordance with its TOS which few people have ever read all the way through at the time they registered the domain) suddenly wants hundreds of dollars to release the domain so they can get it back online somewhere else.

      As a search of this forum will show, GoDaddy, in particular, is notorious for causing major problems and interruptions to its clients' businesses in this regard. But it can be done even by some "good hosts", too!

      The point is that "whether something goes wrong" may not be within your own control - it can be just one of those pretty random things that Winston Churchill called "events".

      Paul Myers' comment in this thread is significant, also.
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      • Profile picture of the author mindreaderwriter
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        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Would you like it to make sense to you?
        Well, that's your opinion. I respect what you said, too, but don't feel obliged to satisfy my doubts for it to make sense to me.
        That's the reason why I prefixed "Personally" when I uttered those words.

        As you said....

        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        This is all personal preference, and opinion.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by mindreaderwriter View Post

          As you said....
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          This is all personal preference, and opinion.
          I think you probably understand, really, that I said that about which registrars and which hosts to use, not about keeping those two functions separate.

          But if you want personal preference and opinion about that, too, mine is that having them in the same place really comes under the heading of "just silly", and as you can see from the links above, the forum's packed with threads in which Warriors who've made that mistake explain why it was a mistake, to enable others to avoid all those accidents. I appreciate that you joined us only this month, but over a longer time you'll perhaps come to appreciate that that's part of the great value of a forum like this: we can sometimes learn from each other's mistakes and reduce the risks of having to endure these all-too-common "accidents".

          But of course, if you really think those people are all wrong, or they're all just making it up for some bizarre reason, and you're the only one who's right, then nobody can deny that that seems to be your "personal preference and opinion".
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          • Profile picture of the author mindreaderwriter
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            Hi Alexa,

            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            But of course, if you really think those people are all wrong, or they're all just making it up for some bizarre reason, and you're the only one who's right, then nobody can deny that that seems to be your "personal preference and opinion".
            I am not putting across the message that I am right and somebody else is wrong or vice versa. When it comes to the context of "personal opinion," no one is wrong.

            I'd like to use the very useful experiences and pieces of information that you have listed on your post to my case study. I am new in this forum but when it comes to technicalities of things, especially when it comes to IT, I would say that I have the "say." Microsoft didn't hire me if they didn't see something in me that will make me lead all tiers and managers in one of their technical support departments. I'm picky or skeptic when it comes to believing or taking something that is not laboratory-proven. In the IM arena, learning from the mistakes of others saves time and money. In some cases, you don't have to test those "learnings." You can apply them right away and see the results yourself. But when the talk comes to technical stuff, I am the type of a person who just don't accept the fact that "a pie = 3.1416." I want to dwell into the integral or differential derivation of it in Calculus as to how a pie came to be 3.1416. I want to see things through from behind the wall.

            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            I appreciate that you joined us only this month, but over a longer time you'll perhaps come to appreciate that that's part of the great value of a forum like this: we can sometimes learn from each other's mistakes and reduce the risks of having to endure these all-too-common "accidents".
            I have already appreciated and I always appreciate the value that our fellow Warriors have been sharing to me and to others. Nevertheless, I am a person who does not base the value or level of goodness of the Warrior's opinion based on tenurity in this forum. I have less than 100 posts so far, but if Bill Gates suddenly join us here, and prove me wrong, I can't do anything about it but accept whatever he will say because he is an "authority" on the topic concerned, even if that's his very first post.

            We need to know more, the one who's posting, to finally see if the person is in the position to comment and be believed based on the topic being discussed.

            Nonetheless, I truly enjoy the discussion in the Main Internet Marketing Forums, especially when the discussions are a mixture of technical and non-technical stuff. Thanks Alexa. I am very sure that there are so many things that I need to learn from you considering your experience in Internet Marketing. I look up to you as a mentor in IM.
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    • Profile picture of the author dgmufasa
      Thanks all for your responses I had wondered about the best place to put a host domain - for an economical price.

      Originally Posted by mindreaderwriter View Post

      We need to know more, the one who's posting, to finally see if the person is in the position to comment and be believed based on the topic being discussed.
      :rolleyes: I am in the IT sector as well. As the maids say: I don't do Windows. I am on the Unix side of the house. My first job out of school was at NASA at the Kennedy Space Center. Have worked with DOD contractors as well. Have also worked at SAP for a number of years with a focus on Oracle databases (you know, SAP, the German Software Company). Went to Germany a *whole lot* so - yup - I speak German (and a bit of French). Last 4 jobs I have gotten (one of which was a management position) were "over the phone" hires. In other words, I never saw my employers until the first day of work.

      In most of my employment assignments, I have been the "hired gun". In other words, when the person they chose to hire screws it all up and someone needs to solve it or else it goes critical (i.e. the manager loses his job, the product can't roll out the door on time, etc. ), that's when I get the job

      Even tho I did internet stuff many moons ago, things have changed SIGNIFICANTLY. Glad I found this forum tho.
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  • Profile picture of the author cvcena
    The explanation to this is simple... It's all about freedom... Go daddy is known for domain registration not for hosting... Some Hosting companies have better services and features than your domain registrar...
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  • Profile picture of the author TheAdsenseGuy
    I've always used Godaddy for domain and hostgator for hosting. Works just fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Thompson
    And for the benefit of those wondering about downtime, only your webhost's downtime affects your site. The registrar doesn't have downtime.

    You buy a domain. You tell the domain registrar what name servers you want to use. The Internet DNS info is stored in redundant servers around the world. The DNS info points to your host.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eduard Stinga
    I've always used HostGator for hosting and NameCheap for domains - never had a single problem, never experienced downtime with either of them.

    So, although your idea makes sense in theory, I don't think it applies too much nowadays.
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  • Profile picture of the author moonzombie
    I used to have everything with godaddy. The fact is, a company that is good at one isn't always good at the other. It's like the domain companies do domains well, and of course they'll offer hosting but it's not their bread and butter. Same for the hosting companies, you can buy domains from them but they're better at hosting.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by dgmufasa View Post

    Hello all,

    I saw in a thread that one should not buy the domain and the hosting service from the same provider - this makes sense.

    In that case, where is the best place to put a domain?

    TIA
    Alexa got it right. You should not host the site and the domain with the same company. I buy my domains from Namecheap and have bought from Godaddy as well and do my hosting with Hostgator. All reliable companies and Hostgator has great customer service and good hosting plans.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dazzling Content
    The safest place to host your domain name is (drumroll, please) your domain name registrar. Obviously!

    You simply change the DNS information of your domain name to reflect those of your web hosting company (such as Hostgator) and you're good to go.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Dazzling Content View Post

      The safest place to host your domain name is (drumroll, please) your domain name registrar. Obviously!
      Alternatively, you could have a look at post #8 above, and the links inside it, and decide that that's perhaps the least safe place. "Obviously!". (But maybe not: that would require actually reading the thread before you reply, after all.)
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  • Profile picture of the author micksss
    Namecheap or godaddy for domain registrations (who ever has the best deal at domain buying time). I only use namecheap now though but godaddy is fine for domain registrations just not web hosting IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    I use Bluehost for DN reg and hosting. At $12 for the first year you can't really complain.
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