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Wsos, can people post their affiliate program links there?

by Networking_now
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I have seen some WSOs with the warrior publishing their affilate program for that wso.

is that allowed?
#affiliate #links #people #post #program #wsos
  • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
    Originally Posted by Networking_now View Post

    I have seen some WSOs with the warrior publishing their affilate program for that wso.

    is that allowed?
    If you mean they're promoting to gather affiliates for their own WSO, then yes, it's allowed.

    It's not the smartest move, in my opinion, but it's not against the rules.
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    • Profile picture of the author Networking_now
      Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

      It's not the smartest move, in my opinion,
      why do you feel that?

      you can get more affiliates? how is that not smart?
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      • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
        Originally Posted by Networking_now View Post

        why do you feel that?

        you can get more affiliates? how is that not smart?
        Because by focusing on your affiliate program and how people can make money, it looks to PayPal like it's an MLM or get rich scheme.

        That is why PayPal is so down on the Warrior Forum - this began after the affiliate program started at Warrior Plus. They don't see this as a real product but members selling to members to sell to more members, and so forth.

        I've had conversations with PayPal and this is what I've been told consistently. I keep trying to tell people but most brush it off. Their choice, of course, but it's not smart.
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        • Profile picture of the author Networking_now
          Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

          Because by focusing on your affiliate program and how people can make money, it looks to PayPal like it's an MLM or get rich scheme.

          That is why PayPal is so down on the Warrior Forum - this began after the affiliate program started at Warrior Plus. They don't see this as a real product but members selling to members to sell to more members, and so forth.

          I've had conversations with PayPal and this is what I've been told consistently. I keep trying to tell people but most brush it off. Their choice, of course, but it's not smart.
          Do paypal frown upon anything else in the warrior forum WSO Section ? -besides their affiliate programs?

          what things do they frown upon with WSos/ wso Plus....besides this ?
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          • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
            Originally Posted by Networking_now View Post

            Do paypal frown upon anything else in the warrior forum WSO Section ? -besides their affiliate programs?

            what things do they frown upon with WSos/ wso Plus....besides this ?
            They don't have a problem with the affiliate program, per se. It's the way people approach it with the gigantic certificate and even emphasizing it in the ad copy. That's what makes it look like the WSO section is a place to sell products to other members, to in turn sell them onto more members.

            Most PayPal employees do not understand our business models so it makes more sense to avoid the appearance of wrongdoing.

            Look at half the ads (maybe more) in the WSO section and you'll see what I mean. There is no need to focus on the affiliate program aspect in the sales ad.

            People get so focused on gaining affiliates that they aren't seeing what kind of affiliates they're getting. Do you see any other marketplace online where the affiliates are demanding 100% on the front end? I haven't.
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            • Profile picture of the author Qamar
              Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

              People get so focused on gaining affiliates that they aren't seeing what kind of affiliates they're getting. Do you see any other marketplace online where the affiliates are demanding 100% on the front end? I haven't.
              I have on a couple of occasions being asked by one well-known Warrior to give one hundred percent commission to him.

              He did that because he has a lot of subscribers in his mailing list. I personally find that this guy is a little arrogant by the way he "demanded" his request.

              Shocking but that's the truth and since then, I have deny his request to become my affiliate. I mean, it's true we all are in this business to make money but don't forget we still have to be respectful and courteous when dealing with each other.






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            • Profile picture of the author LegitIncomes
              Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

              They don't have a problem with the affiliate program, per se. It's the way people approach it with the gigantic certificate and even emphasizing it in the ad copy. That's what makes it look like the WSO section is a place to sell products to other members, to in turn sell them onto more members.

              Most PayPal employees do not understand our business models so it makes more sense to avoid the appearance of wrongdoing.

              Look at half the ads (maybe more) in the WSO section and you'll see what I mean. There is no need to focus on the affiliate program aspect in the sales ad.

              People get so focused on gaining affiliates that they aren't seeing what kind of affiliates they're getting. Do you see any other marketplace online where the affiliates are demanding 100% on the front end? I haven't.
              That logic on the part of Paypal is flawed, imo.

              Simply because each WSO acts as an independent sales page. Traffic can come from ANYWHERE..and you don't need to be a Warrior member to purchase. So the entire "Members selling to members"...that's completely flawed, imo.
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                Just to add to what Tina's so wisely been pointing out above, in my opinion it's not the "having affiliates" that's the problem: it's the conjunction of that with income claims.

                In the long run (and probably in the short and medium runs, too), income claims are bad news for all of us, collectively, as marketers.
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                • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
                  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                  income claims are bad news for all of us, collectively, as marketers.
                  Even when you're honest?
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                  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                    Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

                    Even when you're honest?
                    Yes, Johnny - even when you're honest.

                    Many types of income claims made when promoting business opportunities are even illegal, in many countries, without reference to whether or not they're true.
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              • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
                Originally Posted by LegitIncomes View Post

                That logic on the part of Paypal is flawed, imo.

                Simply because each WSO acts as an independent sales page. Traffic can come from ANYWHERE..and you don't need to be a Warrior member to purchase. So the entire "Members selling to members"...that's completely flawed, imo.
                I disagree. The only reason they are focused on the WSO section right now is that most sales pages elsewhere do not have that huge emphasis on affiliates.

                Just look through Clickbank - very few pages I've seen mention becoming an affiliate (and I look through there constantly deciding what to review for my membership). Most have a link to an affiliate page, but the emphasis is not being made at the point of sale like it is here.

                Just to add to what Tina's so wisely been pointing out above, in my opinion it's not the "having affiliates" that's the problem: it's the conjunction of that with income claims.

                In the long run (and probably in the short and medium runs, too), income claims are bad news for all of us, collectively, as marketers.
                I'm not so sure it's the income claims themselves that are the problem but the way the claims are stated. It's one thing to say, "I made $xxx and here's how" compared to "I made $xxx and here's how YOU CAN TOO". When you start telling people what they can make, that's when you run into trouble if you're not careful.
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                • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                  Originally Posted by Tina Golden View Post

                  I'm not so sure it's the income claims themselves that are the problem but the way the claims are stated. It's one thing to say, "I made and here's how" compared to "I made and here's how YOU CAN TOO". When you start telling people what they can make, that's when you run into trouble if you're not careful.
                  Yes, I hear you. I don't disagree.

                  But the reality tends to be that "the way it's stated" is always going to be open to interpretation and argument. The discussions then start to involve "reasonable person tests" and all the kinds of things that have made lawyers wealthy at the expense of everyone else.

                  The reality tends to be that the reason people say "I made $x,000" is that they want the reader to think "That means I probably can, too". That's normally the underlying intention of an income claim. In my opinion.

                  The practical reality is that combining "having affiliates" with "routinely making income claims" is enough to ring alarm bells in the house of PayPal, I think.

                  I completely appreciate that this is a minority view, but for myself, I'd be less uncomfortable if the Warrior Forum had a "no specific income claims" rule. And I think that in the long run, it might well work out better for all of us.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
                    Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                    The practical reality is that combining "having affiliates" with "routinely making income claims" is enough to ring alarm bells in the house of PayPal, I think.
                    I agree with this. I'd be all for prohibiting income claims in the WSO section, quite frankly. I think it is both a foolish way to sell or buy a product.

                    It's often a sign of a weak product, as well. Whenever I see a post complaining about how most WSOs are crap, I look back in the history of the poster. 9 times out of 10, their posts in the WSO forum have all been in products that were sold with income claims in the subject line or as part of the headline.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                      Apologies - I was still editing my post while you replied to it.

                      I think we agree, really.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
                        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                        Apologies - I was still editing my post while you replied to it.

                        I think we agree, really.
                        Apologies for what? Respectful, intelligent discourse?

                        I like the last paragraph you added, by the way, and completely agree.
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