Is there a way to see how much traffic a web page gets?

by Chris Hunter 34 replies
Just so you know, the webpage isn't mine.

Is there any service (preferably free, like Alexa, maybe?) that can tell me how much traffic any webpage gets? Where it comes from, etc.?

Just to clarify, I want to know if it's possible to find this info out for a specific webpage, not the entire site, ok?

Thanks for the help!
#main internet marketing discussion forum #page #traffic #web
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    You can try to estimate it with Alexa, Compete.com, Quantcast, etc... but they're just statistical estimates and have no idea what the real numbers are.

    You can do a link: search on Google to get a subset of the links pointing to a page.

    But no, there's no way to know how much traffic another site has or where it comes from. There's no way for another service to get the information without the webmaster voluntarily giving it to them (like putting tracking code on the site, which is how hosted web stats services get it to report for you).
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    • Profile picture of the author TOPGUN08
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      • Profile picture of the author Chris Hunter
        Originally Posted by TOPGUN08 View Post

        There is actually a way but theres no way Im posting it on here.
        LOL! Ok. Uh, how about a PM?

        But I understand if you don't want to say anything about it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
        Originally Posted by TOPGUN08 View Post

        There is actually a way but theres no way Im posting it on here.
        There's absolutely no way to get traffic info for an arbitrary website. Only the web server knows what requests have been made of it. There's not even a single point on the network between an arbitrary browser and web server, so not even an ISP or government could glean it from packet sniffing if they wanted to.

        If there were a way, there'd be no reason for Google Analytics, Awstats, Webalizer, and the hundreds of other web stats packages to exist. We'd all just use this magic tool that can give us traffic info for arbitrary sites. But that can't exist, so those tools do.
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      • Originally Posted by TOPGUN08 View Post

        There is actually a way but theres no way Im posting it on here.
        Why? Here's a site that gives you estimated traffic.
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        • Profile picture of the author locking
          I have been using Statbrain.com - Tells you how many visitors any site really has and it´s quite accurate, you can always compare with your own Web page. I think it is quite good.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
            These are just guesses though, and don't tell you where the traffic comes from that the OP wants to know.
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            • Profile picture of the author locking
              I am not saying that it is accurate, it is impossible to say exactly even when you get different results each day, compare it with your own Web page, wrong calculation can be 10-20 percent
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              • Profile picture of the author myob
                Mirror the webpage (using the same metags) on your own website, then check your site stats. This will give you an idea where the traffic is coming from. That technique has been used on me. I found that out when looking through my weblogs.
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                • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
                  Originally Posted by myob View Post

                  Mirror the webpage (using the same metags) on your own website, then check your site stats. This will give you an idea where the traffic is coming from. That technique has been used on me. I found that out when looking through my weblogs.
                  How would that tell you anything about who's linking to the real site and how much traffic those links send?
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                  • Profile picture of the author verdi
                    I tried both on one of my websites which actually gets 668 unique visitors per MONTH and 1713 hits per month

                    Traffic Estimate came up with a figure of 21,700 per day!
                    Statsbrain came up with the figure of 2,531 per day!!!!!

                    Both sites provide Ludicrous rubbish!

                    Best Wishes
                    Joe
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                    • Profile picture of the author myob
                      Originally Posted by verdi View Post

                      I tried both on one of my websites which actually gets 668 unique visitors per MONTH and 1713 hits per month

                      Traffic Estimate came up with a figure of 21,700 per day!
                      Statsbrain came up with the figure of 2,531 per day!!!!!

                      Both sites provide Ludicrous rubbish!

                      Best Wishes
                      Joe
                      Try using Alexa.com
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                      • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
                        Or we can go back and read the original post and see that these sites which guess how much traffic you get don't answer his question at all.
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                  • Profile picture of the author myob
                    Using a combination of the techniques mentioned, you can get an approximation of the amount of traffic, but by mirroring the website you can get an approximation of the source of some of that traffic from search engines. It's not a true picture of course, but you can get a decent profile. There ARE other techniques, but these may be considered black hat or worse.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
            Originally Posted by TOPGUN08 View Post

            My method lets you get access to exact traffic stats by typing certain things into Google or directly into the address bar. Basically hacking.
            Searching Google isn't hacking, nor is trying to guess the location of an Awstats/Webalizer page... nor will they get you the stats of competitors you care about.
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            • Profile picture of the author myob
              Hacking is breaking into a website or network, just like a thief would enter a private home. A common hacking technique in corporate espionage (which is by the way a huge and growing problem) is to hack into a website to view competitors and accounts. Weblogs are particularly vulnerable, because they can be found easily, downloaded and parsed using commercially available software to analyze hits, traffic, and link sources page by page. Almost all sites are vulnerable to this type of intrusion.
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
                Originally Posted by myob View Post

                Hacking is breaking into a website or network, just like a thief would enter a private home. A common hacking technique in corporate espionage (which is by the way a huge and growing problem) is to hack into a website to view competitors and accounts. Weblogs are particularly vulnerable, because they can be found easily, downloaded and parsed using commercially available software to analyze hits, traffic, and link sources page by page. Almost all sites are vulnerable to this type of intrusion.
                Downloading the content of a blog tells you nothing about its hits, traffic, and link sources... almost all sites are not vulnerable, because even if you exploit vulnerabilities in unpatched software (like an outdated version of WordPress) that doesn't automatically give you knowledge of where the server's access logs are.
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by TOPGUN08 View Post

        There is actually a way but there's no way Im posting it on here.
        Same here.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          Same here.
          I know the exact time any person in the world will die, but there's no way I'm posting that here either.
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          • Profile picture of the author Chris Hunter
            Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

            I know the exact time any person in the world will die, but there's no way I'm posting that here either.
            Thanks, Dan!

            I don't want to know when I'm gonna go, but if you happen to know HOW...

            LOL!
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            • Profile picture of the author myob
              Ok, I give in. I can tell when anyone will die and how they will die. Free. Just go to Life expectancy

              For your traffic question, send me a PM. (Not free)
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
                So now you're going to scam someone out of money, since it's technically impossible for a tool that answers the OP's request to exist. This thread is just full of scum and scammers!
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              • Profile picture of the author Chris Hunter
                Just to be clear to people joining the conversation...

                I'm wanting to know how much traffic a particular webpage gets, not the entire site.

                If this is possible, please let me know. I'd really appreciate it.

                Also, Dan? I don't think that I'm scum or a scammer. I was merely wanting to know if this was possible in a legal and ethical way. I just had an idea about something and wanted to see if it would be worth it is all.

                And I'm still waiting to find out HOW I'm gonna die...
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                • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
                  You're not the scammer, the people claiming they can sell you a tool that gives you actual traffic (and referrer) information for someone else's webpage are.

                  Either they don't understand what you asked (that it's not your site), or they are trying to take advantage of people that don't understand how the web works to sell them something that can't exist.
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                  • Profile picture of the author myob
                    It's not a tool. This is a technique, and it's not mine. Totally illegal and involves hacking. And I am not asking for any money - you just pay the hacker.

                    OOPS! The secret is out. You want legal and ethical now. Sorry.
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                    • Profile picture of the author myob
                      Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

                      So now you're going to scam someone out of money, since it's technically impossible for a tool that answers the OP's request to exist. This thread is just full of scum and scammers!
                      Chris question as I understood it was CAN IT BE DONE. My answer is yes it CAN. Legality or ethics was not even mentioned. Did I have to assume that?
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                      • Profile picture of the author Chris Hunter
                        Myob,

                        I should have mentioned that, but it is nice to know that I can hire a hacker to find out that info for me!

                        No biggie.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
                          Yes, legality and ethics should be assumed on these forums. Regardless, you are now assuming every site can be hacked. This is just getting ridicilous.
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                        • Profile picture of the author myob
                          Glad to be of service



                          Sincerely, legally and morally,
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

            I know the exact time any person in the world will die, but there's no way I'm posting that here either.
            Dan,

            I think you should break the news to Chris about the exact time he will die. That is, unless you are lying.
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            • Profile picture of the author LivelyBrowser
              Alexa web information service provides the detail traffic information. However, it's only for a whole website, not for a single webpage.
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      • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
        Originally Posted by TOPGUN08 View Post

        There is actually a way but theres no way Im posting it on here.
        Wouldn't happen to be called webalizer, would it?
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  • Profile picture of the author jayden.fellze
    Statbrain is an online web stats tool that can give you an approximate measure of the number of page views on your website.

    It uses a combination of Alexa rank, backlink counts from Google, and Yahoo to generate the figure.
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