How much can you make with a WSO?

I see what you're doing there and thats honestly a great way imo to gain some credibility on these forums. In fact, if I ever release a WSO, thats exactly how I will do it.

My first few will be free, to create quite a stir and gain some fans. It seems thats what you're doing, thats what kenster did, its what bob ross did, its what A LOT of successful wso marketers have done.

Give out A LOT of free information about the WSO your about to release (results in advance, + you don't even have to talk about the one you'll be charging for, your initial goal is to build an incredible following with free information). So much information people can't imagine you doing anything more in depth about it. Untill you DO SOMETHING MORE IN DEPTH. Your initial free material can be in the form of a free wso or a free thread where you do some really high quality tutorials for free.

You will see guys doing this on here A LOT. Like right now, there is a PPC video tut over in the CPA forums. Look at all the positive feedback that guy is getting. His video was incredibly in depth and very intelligently made.

If he released a WSO tommorow about the same topic, even more in depth, you'd have to be a moron not to buy it. Thats why more than having a love for marketing, I have more of a love for watching other marketers work their craft. As thats where the real money is at, finding the people who know how to do it right. These guys essentially just release stuff, that NOONE in their right mind could turn down. Think along those lines, I think you can definitely succeed at marketing. I can't even imagine how this "results in advance" concept would work on facebook.

Our business is trying to get energy audit leads, so I will go on facebook, and release an incredible video tutorial of how to make your home energy efficient. It will be very much in depth, very easy to understand, and will have lots of rare facts people aren't use to hearing.

I'll use it to build a fan base, then eventually move fans over to my website for the paid version of our service.

Kenster released a SUPER LONG, very much in depth free wso report. Got the attention of many people I think just due to how comprehensive it was. He also used the WSO to build up his own relative credibility. If you read it carefully, you'll see many parts where he *implies* he has made a lot of money with the methods. But he doesn't focus on that fact, he's very ambigous about it, which leaves peoples imaginations to think he's a lot wealthier than he actually is.

That alone immediately increases readers perception of him. Of course he uses it to promote is six figure alliance. Answer this one question - when you read kensters WSO, did you ever get the impression he was poor & didn't know what he was doing?

Thats ALL that matters. I don't know how much this guy makes, I have no idea what the real scoop is, all I know is how he frames it in the WSO. Most readers will just sense it, and not really analyze HOW he's building credibility.

Either way, the method to succeeding at WSOs is by saturating the market with FREE material related to your niche, you make that free material more valuable than most the wsos people are ALREADY SELLING (again, take Kenster for example - his free WSO was better than most wsos people buy about CPA). You immediately gain a crapton of credibility and crush the competition imo. That will give you the leverage to sell an avalanche of wsos imo.

Thats one thing I love about marketing. Its never really about one behavoir you make, but a sequence of behavoirs, how they add value to each following sequence, and THATS really what makes you money imo.

-Red

Do you have any proof to back up your statement? I would like to know if you know which WSO made that..?

According what you guys are saying, isn't it better to launch on Clickbank where you'd have way more potential affiliates?

I suspect one wso can make over $250k over a period of 6 months..

I would like more info on this issue, if anyone has first hand proof of some WSO which made a big launch or some crazy sales over $100K..

How long did it take you to make that?

Why not both?

A WSO is supposed to be a product you have at a special price... meaning it should be on the web somewhere else for a higher price.

They don't exactly monitor this like they used to, so it's not like that.

I use the WSO forum as just the start to the product process. It's an easy way to test out your sales funnel and the product itself before launching it to the major public. Remember, the WSO forum is a tiny tiny fraction of this wonderful IM buyers market.

Improve your conversions after the initial WSO launch, then launch it on Clickbank. You will be able to reach a bunch more affiliates, plus now you have proof in the numbers that your product converts and can make them money.

Travis

Use WSO to launch it and test it out (keeping the price of your offer lower than the price it would usually be)

then after some testing, tweaks release it on clickbank.

Usually the WSO marketplace is a 'test' marketplace. Professional marketers analyse their product, fix sales pitches, improve their conversions, provide statistics, gather testimonials, etc., to ensure that their product is worth investing in.

Clickbank makes millionaires, however, without the right experience and knowledge you could well lose your $50K investments.

Def. do both!
Clickbank can be very hard to get a Bizopp product approved. I was forced to take one of my products to clicksure which was wayy easier on the approval process. Only thing that sucks is they don't have recurring payments and no paypal ((

Very good point there.. most marketer test their product as WSO and then release it in clickbank for more exposure.

If you have upsell and some high ticket strategies, $100k is possible to be made.

So, from all the above discussion, do I take that the front end profit per WSO is falling every day in absence of OTOs/upsells, downsells and affiliates?

No, I would change that to say...

Below $5K is NORMAL.

That's what the majority of people are hitting.

Thanks for the advervise buys its been really helpful. If you could explain more on how to find these affiliates that will be great too.