Clickbank cookie question

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Hey, Id like to send traffic to a clickbank product but the product has a opt-in for for a "free report", + further down the buy now button.

If the prospect decides to opt in for the free report and later buys the product via the report or emails from the product owner do i still get paid if its within the 30 day cookie?

Sorry sounds confusing but i worry that the traffic i send may be "stolen" if that makes sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tantalizing Web
    In almost all cases the sale will not be "stolen" from you. It depends on how the vendor sets up the link in his emails or other contacts with your lead. Most will do it properly so that his link is only used if there is no cookie. If he sends out emails or his free report has his affiliate link in it, then he'll take your sale.

    Suggest you create a link, click on it. then sign up for his news letter and report and see what happens.
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  • Profile picture of the author singhromy
    I would suggest that you should sign up for free report and then see what happens. But i'm sure that you will get your commission.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by singhromy View Post

    i'm sure that you will get your commission.
    You're "sure"?!

    Unlike you, I've actually tested a randomly selected cross-section of those products (as I've explained and discussed in other threads), in different popular niches, and the results were that only about 15% of the time, there was no attempt by vendors to overwrite the original affiliate's cookie.

    So while you're "sure", I find there's an 85% chance of the exact opposite, myself.

    Originally Posted by zimsabre View Post

    If the prospect decides to opt in for the free report and later buys the product via the report or emails from the product owner do i still get paid if its within the 30 day cookie?
    It's a 60-day cookie.

    The answer is that there's no way of knowing. You'd be totally dependent on the vendor, with no way to verify what's happening, and ClickBank wouldn't be "on your side" even if you lost some/all of your commissions this way, because their official policy (and don't blame them for it: they could never enforce anything else) is that once someone opts in to the vendor, they "belong" to the vendor.

    These are among the reasons why very, very few serious, professional affiliates will ever promote a product with a sales page like that.

    There's a lot of misinformation around, on this subject.

    This one thread is worth a long, slow, careful read-through: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oduct-opt.html

    Originally Posted by zimsabre View Post

    i worry that the traffic i send may be "stolen" if that makes sense.
    Of course, and rightly.

    The limited independent reasearch I did on this showed that 85% of the time, this was exactly what was happening. It would be very naive indeed not to be concerned. And it would also be a little naive to be influenced by recently joined forum members (or anyone else) telling you that they're "sure" you'll get paid.

    Specifically, don't imagine that you can somehow "guard against this" by opting in yourself, as a customer, and seeing what comes back (i.e. whether the vendor sends you any fresh affiliate links/cookies to overwrite the one already on your PC). Although suggested in two posts above, that's actually mistaken reasoning. (Explained in detail in the thread linked to above).

    Let's be really unambiguous about this: though nobody can predict with certainty what will happen regarding any specific, individual product (nor can you reliably learn that, by opting in yourself), in general you often won't be paid, this way, and you should expect, overall, to lose commission income which you'd otherwise have been paid. This is clear.

    You can always ask the vendor for another copy of the sales page without the opt-in. Some vendors already have one. Others will produce one for you, if you ask for it (it's very easy for them to do this).

    If you ask and they really won't, then you have to ask yourself what their behavior is really telling you, and why, and then (in my opinion) find another product to promote, instead of theirs!

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2161932
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  • Profile picture of the author Dietriffic
    @Alexa
    I've heard this before, Alexa, but it's really enlightening to read it again.

    I've set up my product to pitch it over several days after they opt in, but if reliable affiliates are put off by this option, I'm going to have to offer an alternative 'one visit sale opportunity' as well.

    I would never even think of stealing sales from people helping me to build my business.

    Thanks for sharing your experience.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Dietriffic View Post

      if reliable affiliates are put off by this option, I'm going to have to offer an alternative 'one visit sale opportunity' as well.
      Hi Melanie, good luck with it!

      I admit I wouldn't look at it as a "one-visit sale opportunity" myself, at all - just as a way to have a sales page to which I can send my subscribers, who are already receiving email promotions (from me) about the product.

      Anyway, there's no harm at all in giving affiliates a choice. Some, who don't build lists at all (and there's always a turnover of those affiliates) may even prefer a sales-page with an opt-in. How many sales those affiliates will collectively bring in is a different matter, but still ...

      I'd suggest that you make it really clear, both in your Marketplace listing and on your vendor Spotlight Page if you have one, that you have an opt-in-free version of the sales-page available for affiliates who build their own lists.

      Originally Posted by Dietriffic View Post

      I've set up my product to pitch it over several days after they opt in
      I don't know whether you'd necessarily want to, but you can make those emails available to affiliates, on an "affiliate page" as well? I never use them myself (though I do sometimes take sentences/ideas from them) but I've seen plenty of vendors doing this. Kind of in an attempt to get "the best of both worlds", I think?

      Originally Posted by Silentkiller1 View Post

      This increases the chances of a sale
      For the vendor, yes. With or without an affiliate commission being paid on it. Which is why pro-affiliates don't touch this arrangement. I'm afraid you've completely missed the point made in this thread, where a hundred or so people discuss it: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oduct-opt.html

      Originally Posted by Silentkiller1 View Post

      and yes the 30 day tracking will work for the same browser...
      First, it's a 60-day cookie. Secondly, it will work only until overwritten by the customer clicking on one the vendor sends in the emails sent out after the opt-in, which is the main point you're missing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Silentkiller1
    This increases the chances of a sale, and yes the 30 day tracking will work for the same browser...
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