I will sign up if you guarantee 6 figures to me

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I'm getting more and more people who want my training, but they demand me to guarantee them a 6 figure result (and fast to).

Where is this 6 figures coming from? I got arrested trying to get into this country as an alien, no one guaranteed anything to me and when I finally got into America, I had to take out trash and wash floors for $4.18 per hour no benefits (no dental or medical) when I started, I wish I know I was entitled to tell people what they needed to guarantee to me, I guess school paid off for them since they are award of these entitlements which I'm not.

So why are more and more people demanding 6 figures and some additional conditions they tell me is a must for them is no work or additional investment or risk or to much tim involved?

Am I just missing something? or is this where we are going? And how did this get started in the first place? Are gurus actually promising this to customers, so this is now an expectation that everyone is entitled to results?
#figures #guarantee #sign
  • Profile picture of the author Jim Nariel
    I agree there are no guarrantees in life or indeed in IM. However you do need the right guidance and training and even coaching to get this to work
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Let's put it this way - there are a lot of people who should not be playing in the gene pool, and you are coming across more than your share...
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    • Profile picture of the author payment proof
      That's crazy. I would never guarantee a 6 figure result.
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  • Profile picture of the author WinstonTian
    lol

    I'll sign up if you guarantee to tie my
    shoelaces... pretty please??

    Kidding.

    Oh come on... Our society's moving
    towards a land of hopes and dreams...

    I guess bold guarantees are part of
    the package.

    Though I'm sure the FTC wouldn't
    agree.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Britton
    I will sign up with no guarantee at all on a 50:50 basis

    how's that? I am 100% ready - set me a series of tasks and just check up that I do them although that might include some steps that I have to learn. I am available full time and my attitude is "50% of something that makes money is better than 100% of nothing"

    I am totally serious and raring to go

    please, I mean it
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  • Profile picture of the author Abraham L
    Funny title. I was actually gonna say the same thing.
    Only I can guarantee the results I'm gonna have!

    Crazy how people ask for that lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    People tend to want handouts that is why a lot of people new to internet marketing give up before they really see results from their efforts.

    Gimme, gimme, gimme ....

    But they fail to realize that this is a business and you have to work to make it a success unless you have a super rich uncle
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  • Profile picture of the author ToddRestrepo
    You will always find those who demand the rewards before or if ever they perform the work.

    But then again anyone can demand what they want but unless someone makes the guarantee they are ... to put it nicely ... SOOL!
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  • Profile picture of the author minion
    I think part of the problem is that there are so many coaching programs around, it's hard to tell the legitimate ones from the fake users who lie about their 6-figure success stories.

    It's probably best to stay away from these people anyway - they're looking for a magic button in the form of coaching.

    I wonder if it'd be better to restructure your training/coaching program to be paid monthly, cancel at any time? That way they only put a small amount of $$ up-front, and have the opportunity to pull out at any stage if they think it's not working for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author DanAndrews
    Just from reading your message it sounds like you are marketing to the 'business opportunity' crowd, or people who don't know anything about business or entrepreneurship. since they'll have a difficult time evaluating the actual merits of your product, they'll instead evaluate offers. if everyone else is guaranteeing 6 figures to get businesss.....

    so their response is a symptom of your marketing. it's an interesting thing though: if everyone is thinking 6 figures, is there some clever way you could use that idea in your marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeink
    This is a lesson for people that ask for that type of $$$$$$$

    Here is your six figure income and easy to do.
    1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6

    Now you need to fill in the blanks.

    There is only one person that can get YOU, that type of income.

    Now we need to teach how to be like farmer and work the fields.
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    Well let me see. OH yea need to start work on my ???????? again.
    Been working for slave wages to long.

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    • Profile picture of the author Aswad
      Originally Posted by mikeink View Post

      This is a lesson for people that ask for that type of $$$$$$$

      Here is your six figure income and easy to do.
      1
      2
      3
      4
      5
      6

      Now you need to fill in the blanks.

      There is only one person that can get YOU, that type of income.

      Now we need to teach how to be like farmer and work the fields.
      Here is your six figure income and easy to do.
      1 sell product
      2 follow above step
      3 follow above step
      4 follow above step
      5 follow above step
      6 follow above step
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      • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
        Originally Posted by Aswad View Post

        Here is your six figure income and easy to do.
        1 sell product
        2 follow above step
        3 follow above step
        4 follow above step
        5 follow above step
        6 follow above step


        Lmao. Was wondering if this would work for 7 figures as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author IulianP
    Take a look at the WSO section. Everybody promising thousands with 0.21 seconds of work and the funny stuff is that those WSO's are the ones which sell more and more every day.

    People wanna have easy stuff and make nothing for it. The concept of hard work is gone, deleted long ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gene Pimentel
    You CAN guarantee six figures to everyone. 000,000 is six figures last time I checked. So what's the problem.
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    • Profile picture of the author Muhsin Aziz
      Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel View Post

      You CAN guarantee six figures to everyone. 000,000 is six figures last time I checked. So what's the problem.
      Haha.. thats really funny. I was drinking water and almost splurt it out when I read your post. Nice one..lol..
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    • Originally Posted by Gene Pimentel View Post

      You CAN guarantee six figures to everyone. 000,000 is six figures last time I checked. So what's the problem.
      Nice one! I have to work this into a sales video or letter but in a funny way.
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  • Profile picture of the author CaesarSEO
    Lol,

    Those guys who asked you to guarantee 6 figures, just ignore them. They are probably the minority + they are not going to be of any help to you whatsoever in future.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    People don't seem to realize that becoming an entrepreneur requires some element of risk. If they want a guaranteed income they need to stick with a job. (Though that only works until you get laid-off.)

    They should expect a clear idea of what your coaching will include. But in the end, they have to act on the directions they are given or you can't help them.

    Rose
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  • Profile picture of the author 8485marketing
    I just think the world has become somewhat of a 'something for nothing' culture. I think the big name IM's have played a little part in this too. How many of the latest IM product releases are 1 to 6 click softwares to generates heaps of cash. Make money while you sleep, out at the beach, in the bath, oooh would you look at that, another $10k while i was taking a ****.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Curtis
      Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert View Post

      I'm getting more and more people who want my training, but they demand me to guarantee them a 6 figure result (and fast to).

      I wish I know I was entitled to tell people what they needed to guarantee to me...


      Originally Posted by Abraham16 View Post


      Crazy how people ask for that lol.
      Originally Posted by entrepreneurjay View Post


      Gimme, gimme, gimme ....
      Originally Posted by ToddRestrepo View Post

      You will always find those who demand the rewards before or if ever they perform the work.
      Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

      Well if you can't guarantee them 6-figures ($100,000), what is the point of using coaching as opposed to reading an ebook and applying it?

      If it was 7-figures, a cool million, they were asking for then, sure, that would be insane. But 6-figures is quite a reasonable income to expect after coaching.
      Originally Posted by CaesarSEO View Post


      Those guys who asked you to guarantee 6 figures, just ignore them.
      Originally Posted by Rose Anderson View Post

      People don't seem to realize that becoming an entrepreneur requires some element of risk. If they want a guaranteed income they need to stick with a job.
      Originally Posted by 8485marketing View Post

      I just think the world has become somewhat of a 'something for nothing' culture.
      It looks to me like everyone in this thread is missing the real point.

      You are offering a product. You can ask for any amount of money on any terms and conditions that you choose.

      They are considering a purchase. They can offer to make that purchase for any amount of money and on any terms and conditions they choose.

      If you come to an agreement then you will make a sale. If you don't, you won't.

      It is called negotiations. There is nothing inherently wrong for asking for something in a negotiation. Maybe you'll get it. Maybe you won't.

      It's not a matter of right and wrong. It's a matter of offering a product for which there is a demand, or creating that demand, and delivering that product to a customer at a profit. That is marketing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
        Originally Posted by Dan Curtis View Post

        It looks to me like everyone in this thread is missing the real point.
        I don't think so. Obviously every transaction is a negotiation. I did mention that every buyer should have a clear idea of exactly what to expect in return for their money.

        But the OP was simply surprised that this question was coming up so often and wondered why. We were giving opinions (and mine is worth more on some days than others) about why people seem to feel they should be guaranteed a set amount for simply "receiving" coaching. They certainly have the right to turn down the coaching if they don't feel it's what they want.

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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by 100k View Post

          I wont read another post in this thread unless I am guaranteed something useful out of it.

          Something in the region of 5 figure region.
          Okay, here you go...
          1. Square
          2. Circle
          3. Triangle
          4. Pentagon
          5. Hexagon

          :p
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  • Profile picture of the author larry1113
    Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert View Post

    I'm getting more and more people who want my training, but they demand me to guarantee them a 6 figure result (and fast to).

    Where is this 6 figures coming from? I got arrested trying to get into this country as an alien, no one guaranteed anything to me and when I finally got into America, I had to take out trash and wash floors for $4.18 per hour no benefits (no dental or medical) when I started, I wish I know I was entitled to tell people what they needed to guarantee to me, I guess school paid off for them since they are award of these entitlements which I'm not.

    So why are more and more people demanding 6 figures and some additional conditions they tell me is a must for them is no work or additional investment or risk or to much tim involved?

    Am I just missing something? or is this where we are going? And how did this get started in the first place? Are gurus actually promising this to customers, so this is now an expectation that everyone is entitled to results?
    Respect my friend. And well put
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  • Profile picture of the author 100k
    I wont read another post in this thread unless I am guaranteed something useful out of it.

    Something in the region of 5 figure region.
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    Rent this space.

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  • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

    Well if you can't guarantee them 6-figures ($100,000), what is the point of using coaching as opposed to reading an ebook and applying it?

    Coaching is expensive. If I was a customer, I'd probably expect a 6-figure income as a result of coaching.

    If it was 7-figures, a cool million, they were asking for then, sure, that would be insane. But 6-figures is quite a reasonable income to expect after coaching.
    If people were not so greedy they would be making more money. I see many unreasonable expectations on this forum almost daily.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert View Post

    Am I just missing something?
    Yes.

    You're missing the chance to sign up as subscribers all those people who want an income claim, to sign up.

    Accordingly, you're saving some time, money, effort and energy, and avoiding some frustration and a lot of people who are just along for the temporary ride and probably can't benefit from your coaching/teaching anyway. And I commend you on all of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    This is code for, I'm willing to spend the last bit of money in my savings account if you can promise me I'll make a 6 figure income. It couldn't be any clearer to me.
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  • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
    Ahh, you are seeing a side effect of what IM's become to newbies. I'm pretty sure this all started with the years of unchecked ridiculous income claims on virtually every IM product out there. So it's gotten so bad that the FTC actually had to step in and start cracking down on IM'ers. The thing is that we're selling the "sizzle" as has been said so many times.

    Problem is that people are tired of buying "sizzle" all the time and are finally demanding to get their money's worth. Here's the problem with some of them, though. This is a business. In business, you face risks, risk of principal, risk of time and money and ultimately risk of failure. If you guarantee that your coaching students will make money, you are a fool. That removes the burden of success from their shoulders and places it squarely on yours. As in everything in life, you get what you give. People not willing to work should not have a guaranty that puts all the onus on you and not them.
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  • Profile picture of the author rprieto60
    I want my guaranteed six figure income without doing anything to warrant it now, and if I DON'T get it I'll Occupy the Warrior Forum.....

    or hold my breath until I turn blue, or lie on the floor kicking and screaming. :-O
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    Now THIS is what I call a truely motivational post, not threads like the one I just read in the offline forum (that was posted by a somewhat young "guru" mind you).

    You make a wealth of excellent points, I also love the way you frame coming into this country, and working for dollars an hour.

    This thread really needs to be made a sticky for all these newbs posting "who on here is making a million dollars"?

    Also, now I will reveal what I believe plays a huge role in this.
    But the first thing that came to my mind here was this "six figure alliance" mentality.

    Kenster although a great guy, and an even better marketer, has definitely managed to hogwash newbies by the DROVES to buy into this dream.

    He makes it clear that it takes hard work in his book (i'm just using him as an innocent example, definitely not trying to place blame on him individually), but I don't think he made that clear enough. I don't think A LOT of gurus make that clear enough, and the reason is simple, they want to SELL THEIR STUFF.

    So who do we REALLY blame imo? The gurus. Newbies don't come on this forum looking to get rich the first second they get here.

    At least I know when I came here ALL I WAS LOOKING FOR was a way to make more money. Nothing "passive", nothing "easy", none of those hot buttons even existed in my mind when I came here. You marketers consistently tried to inject these memes into my brain.

    But after I was here for a month or so, hearing this repetitive get rich garbage day after day, I actually began to buy into it a bit under my not so best judgement.


    Gurus will blame newbies, and say its what they're looking for, so its what they will give them, but that kinda becomes an arguement of "who came first the chicken or the egg?" Who can you really place blame on newbies OR gurus? And a part of me says both should share equal responsibility, which both never will, so I just blame both.

    Although I still feel like the gurus are more to blame for it. Its really just a side effect of brilliant marketing imo. Brainwash people and have them live vicariously through your own dreams, make them think something is possible, motivate them to take action, then because their whole foundation was built on hyped up dreams, it comes crashing down really quick.

    I mean even Frank Kern admitted something like 99% of his buyers don't take action, and these are likely VETERAN marketers buying his material (I could be wrong however I did not research that). So thats another reason I don't like blaming newbies so much. Its really just a widespread meme that needs to be killed in its tracks, but its just far too resilient and powerful to kill imo.

    Afterall, it becomes a situation where you're forced to kill peoples dreams. So thats why I say don't even respond to those types of people, they are gullible idiots like too many people unfortunately are (no offense to anyone =] I can be gullible myself a lot of the time).

    -Red
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  • Profile picture of the author Levintry
    Oh geez, I generally stay away from people who promise a specific amount of earnings, it simply is not possible to guarantee figures that high. I mean, sure if you have the money to invest in huge amounts, you could probably pull stuff like that off. I would recommend just tell these people who want your training the real deal, being honest to your potential students will result in you weeding out the bad ones and improving your reputation within the IM community as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
      Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

      Well if you can't guarantee them 6-figures ($100,000), what is the point of using coaching as opposed to reading an ebook and applying it?

      Coaching is expensive. If I was a customer, I'd probably expect a 6-figure income as a result of coaching.

      If it was 7-figures, a cool million, they were asking for then, sure, that would be insane. But 6-figures is quite a reasonable income to expect after coaching.
      This is positively ridiculous! Are you high?

      Yes, that's harsh, but your statements are well... ridiculous (to put it mildly).

      I paid my mentor $7K this year for just 6 months of coaching, and $3K back in 2010. (Total = $10K.) There are NO guarantees in business and so far, I've brought in a whopping $254 with the business model my mentor has taught me and coached me on.

      But yes, it's worth every penny. First of all, I'm in this for the long haul. I'm building a solid business, not just generating "extra" "part-time" money to buy a second-hand car.

      If you truly want to be self-employed (long-term) and build a solid business (long-term) than enrolling in in the occasional coaching program is a wise investment. Yes, it's an investment -- for the LIFE of your business.

      Too many people look at a 6-month coaching program and think they need to be making the big bucks by the end of 6 months. Not true.

      You need to look at coaching as investment for the life of your business. If you're not making 6 figures by the end of the coaching program, it doesn't mean that the coaching program was a flop.

      If you want a guarantee, buy a blender.

      As most Warriors have experienced, there's a glut of information. How-to information is plentiful and we all suffer from information overload. Congratulations! You've discovered there's more to success than how-to information. Even the RIGHT how-to information. If the how-tos were enough, we'd all be rich.

      Success is a combination of things: the right information, the right mindset, the right action, the right drive/ambition, the right timing, commitment, etc. Success is a mixture of things with just the right alchemy. And yes, there's a certain amount of indefinable intangibility to it.

      Coaching programs are designed to provide more individualized, personal attention and to address those emotional, indefinable things that are part of success. The mindset stuff I've learned from my mentor ALONE is worth the price of her coaching program.

      Yes, I know everyone says that and it's become cliche. But it's true. She taught me more than the how-to's. She's also taught me actually HOW TO BE IN BUSINESS. How to be a business woman (i.e. be professional). (For example, what if a potential JV partner agrees to be interviewed, but refuses to help promote the product or event?)

      She's taught me how "stand up straight and put on your big-girl business panties." (Yes, she really says that!)

      I'm super selective about the coaching programs I've joined and I think you should be too. In fact, my mentor is the only one I've ever paid that kind of money to. And only here and there, not on a consistent basis (for that kind of money!).

      But the occasional, well-designed coaching program from a qualified person can be extremely valuable. Once you learn something, that's a permanent asset. It can't be taken away from you.

      My mentor is a multi-millionaire, so paying just $7K to learn how she made her millions is a bargain by comparison. Plus, she's teaching a business model NO ONE else is teaching. I really can't learn it anywhere else.

      But I now have that know-how and those skills FOR LIFE. No one can take it away from me -- or at least, not until Alzheimer's does. :p

      Generally speaking, paying a higher price ensures you get higher quality: a better coaching program and a more highly qualified coach. Paying a higher price grants you access to people you might not have access to any other way.

      So I'm happy to pay a higher price. My mentor is phenomenal and worth every penny.

      PLUS, she's a JV partner! She has a huge network of customers, subscribers and social media peeps. Not only is she contributing to a telesummit I'm hosting next month, she's also promoting it to HER list!

      It's not something she talks about or advertises. And she doesn't promise it. But she's MUCH more willing to lend her time and marketing muscle to newbies who are paying clients than to a newbie who approaches her cold.

      How many times do we see people wanting to know how to get big JVs on board with their project??? Well, sometimes, you just gotta "pay to play."

      We all want to know "what's in it for me"? The gurus have highly successful businesses. Their success demands that they spend their time on activities with a high return on investment (ROI). Partnering with a newbie (with no list or a small list or no specialized expertise) has no ROI for them. Why SHOULD they partner with you???

      One way to get a "big fish" guru to partner with you is simply to buy one of their products or services. Enroll in one of their programs. If nothing else, you can approach them by saying "I'm one of your customers and I love what you do. I was just so impressed and I have something you might be interested in..." Be genuine. Flattery is only valuable if it's honest.

      You given them something first (money for one of their products or services). So they're much more likely to listen to you and do what you ask (provided that your proposal is a fit for their audience). However, being a customer DOESN'T entitle you to their help.

      My mentor is a "big fish" and her willingness to JV with me and help me get my business off the ground is a HUGE benefit to me. That was actually one of my primary goals when I signed up with her in Jan. So I am THRILLED.

      Perspective is everything. And sometimes, all we need is a new perspective.

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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

        Ahh, you are seeing a side effect of what IM's become to newbies. I'm pretty sure this all started with the years of unchecked ridiculous income claims on virtually every IM product out there. So it's gotten so bad that the FTC actually had to step in and start cracking down on IM'ers. The thing is that we're selling the "sizzle" as has been said so many times.

        Problem is that people are tired of buying "sizzle" all the time and are finally demanding to get their money's worth. Here's the problem with some of them, though. This is a business. In business, you face risks, risk of principal, risk of time and money and ultimately risk of failure.
        The person who coined the phrase "sell the sizzle, not the steak" assumed that the person selling actually HAD a steak. People that sell sizzle when there is no steak are not called "marketers", they're called "con artists" and, quite often, "defendants." And rightfully so.

        Originally Posted by IMSince2003 View Post

        If you guarantee that your coaching students will make money, you are a fool. That removes the burden of success from their shoulders and places it squarely on yours. As in everything in life, you get what you give. People not willing to work should not have a guaranty that puts all the onus on you and not them.
        This part is exactly right.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
    How could you possibly guarantee anything to anyone? How could they expect you to? You don't know if they will work hard after you teach them or do what they need to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    People who buy those types of products and the people who demand those types of guarantees are too lazy to even have a hope in hell of ever achieving that. They buy those products because they feel better immediately after... Most times they won;t even open or finish reading the course, they just want to go to bed for the next few nights and dream about "What if"...

    When it wears off they buy another product and the same sensation consumes them.

    Sadly, they think this is starting and running a business. These are also the same people who think that Internet Marketing is a big scam.

    Good grief!
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  • Profile picture of the author avajo71
    I think nothing..
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
    It was that push button phase. that is what was sold for $47. It is pathetic but it's true. People don't seem to understand that this business takes time money and dedication. Don't let people get to you. It is mostly the north american mindset. People are starving and yet others still believe that they should wake up to money for no work!!!! Yes it is the Guru's fault. This garbage mindset is what has been sold for years. The good part it that those people tend to fade away even after the promises. It is just a fad for them. Let them enjoy self entitlement and a 9 to 5
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  • Profile picture of the author crosshairs
    Definitely not someone you want as a coaching client. If they are a pain before they pay you, they will be worse after.

    It is hard to let go of a large chunk of money until you can see the underlying value of your investment. It takes vision to see what it farther than your nose and some people don't look that far.

    On the flip side there are swindlers out there as well and after being burned they might be afraid to leap again.

    I would pass on them either way. There are people that will appreciate your guidance and understand you can only do so much to make them successful, most of it is up to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elizabeth Fee
    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

    Well if you can't guarantee them 6-figures ($100,000), what is the point of using coaching as opposed to reading an ebook and applying it?

    Coaching is expensive. If I was a customer, I'd probably expect a 6-figure income as a result of coaching.

    If it was 7-figures, a cool million, they were asking for then, sure, that would be insane. But 6-figures is quite a reasonable income to expect after coaching.
    This is surprising to read. I can only relate this to a college student who pays for their education... certainly no guarantee that they will land a job right out of school, let alone one that pays a 6-figure income. I'll bet that four years of schooling is much more expensive than a 6-month coaching session, and I'd be pretty surprised to meet anyone in college with that level of expectation.

    So, you ask... what's the point?

    With coaching, I gather you'd receive a far greater understanding of how to build a business, build skill sets and knowledge you may have never understood or known about before, and ultimately learn how to create longevity in your success once you get there. With college, you learn how to think analytically, socialize, and build relationships both in school and in the work force. So despite the fact that you may not come out of either making 6-figures, that really shouldn't be the point. The point is to advance yourself so that YOU and only YOU can advance your business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
    Originally Posted by Chris Kent View Post

    Well if you can't guarantee them 6-figures ($100,000), what is the point of using coaching as opposed to reading an ebook and applying it?

    Coaching is expensive. If I was a customer, I'd probably expect a 6-figure income as a result of coaching.

    If it was 7-figures, a cool million, they were asking for then, sure, that would be insane. But 6-figures is quite a reasonable income to expect after coaching.
    In my opinion, any coach with half a brain should never make any income guarantees, and you as a buyer shouldn't expect it.

    Let me put it this way: let's say you hired a coach and he or she taught you everything they know about how they make 6+ figures a year. And you do everything the same, but for some strange reason, you fall short. Are you going to blame the coach for that? The correct answer is, you shouldn't. Because what worked for your coach may or may not work for you.

    A coach is there to guide you but you alone must take full responsibility for your own failures and successes.
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  • Profile picture of the author stockcertified
    Loving this thread.......

    if there is a will......there is a way..........so Just DO IT.......

    Most just by the Nike shoes and wish for the results

    The six figure salary $$$ is in selling the tools to the make money dreamers. So the lazier & easier it sounds the more it sells to couch potatoes. Or in this thread rant...the more people flock to hiring somebody else guarantee this income.


    I work in the stock trading educational space. People dream about trading stocks for an hour to pull in that 6 figure income while spending most of the day at the golf course. But its not that easy, you have to research companies and stay on top of trends. But yes you can make 5 to 20% gains in a day vs your 401k.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben Gordon
    My usual reply:

    We'll talk when you're sober.
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    I THINK THE GURANTEE THEY WANT IS THIS. IF YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND YOU ARE MAKING MONEY. THEY WANT YOU TO TEACH THEM THAT METHOD TO MAKE MONEY.
    MAYBE, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO ASK FOR THAT GUARANTEE UNLESS YOU ARE HOLDING BACK ON SOME METHODS..
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    There is no guarantee to become successful in IM unless you focus to what you are doing
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  • Profile picture of the author Isaiah Jackson
    Loving this thread. Here is my take on it

    Like everyone else can't guarantee anything unless this person is 1000% certain that they will actually implement and take MASSIVE ACTION.

    I'll guarantee you will make the minimum of 1 penny IF you do what I tell you.

    Now if you don't do anything you won't make anything

    Just how I feel about it.

    - Isaiah Jackson
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Theriot
    The thing most replies are missing is this:

    If you want to get rid of these kind of people and stop wasting your time on them, you need to charge a lot more for your coaching. The more you charge, the more you move away from the mindset of entitlement, and into a mindset of extracting ROI from your coaching.

    At a certain price point, you will find that you attract people who want to buy what you are selling, not complain that you aren't selling them what they want to buy.
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