Does My Writing Really Suck?

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Lately, I have been wondering if my writing sucks. I can get work at .01 cent a word but when I up the rate to .02 - .03 a word, I get no bites. This has made me look at my writing and determine what I could be doing to improve my writing. I write mainly for my own websites but sometimes, I like to write for others just to have an extra income source. Could someone take a look at this writing sample and tell me what you think. I can take good criticism so don't hold back.

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...tingSample.jpg

(Sorry the words are so tiny. Had to make it as an image since this was written for someone else.)

*That isn't all of the article but it should be enough content to judge.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Yeah, I wouldn't hire you, and I do hire lots of writers.

    The work is uninspired and bland.

    Granted, you are writing SEO articles, which by their very definition are uninspired and bland, but any good writer can turn that kind of content into something interesting and useful.

    Compare yourself to a Cosmopolitan Magazine writer, and you will see the difference.

    As a SEO writer, your clients are not focused on telling a story that people want to read. Instead, they are focused on putting words on a page that will trigger a search engine placement, so that makes it harder for you, because you are writing for the wrong customers.

    Generally, if you want to increase your earnings as a writer, then you must absolutely market your services to different people. The people who pay a penny a word will always pay a penny a word, no matter how talented you are.

    I advise that you take two steps:

    1. Improve your story telling, by observing writers who write in your niche and get paid well for their writing... Print magazines is a good place to look for that caliber of writing...

    2. Market yourself to people who are willing to pay you more money.

    An important consideration in this is to stop selling your services to people who want articles for SEO. Those people don't pay good wages for writers, because they consider writers to be a commodity that they can pay rock-bottom wages.

    However, if you find an employer who values the story that you tell, and the subsequent benefits they can receive as a result of your work, in terms of traffic and sales, then you will find yourself working for people who value their writers more than a penny a word.
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    • Profile picture of the author mekap04
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Yeah, I wouldn't hire you, and I do hire lots of writers.

      The work is uninspired and bland.

      Granted, you are writing SEO articles, which by their very definition are uninspired and bland, but any good writer can turn that kind of content into something interesting and useful.

      Compare yourself to a Cosmopolitan Magazine writer, and you will see the difference.

      As a SEO writer, your clients are not focused on telling a story that people want to read. Instead, they are focused on putting words on a page that will trigger a search engine placement, so that makes it harder for you, because you are writing for the wrong customers.

      Generally, if you want to increase your earnings as a writer, then you must absolutely market your services to different people. The people who pay a penny a word will always pay a penny a word, no matter how talented you are.

      I advise that you take two steps:

      1. Improve your story telling, by observing writers who write in your niche and get paid well for their writing... Print magazines is a good place to look for that caliber of writing...

      2. Market yourself to people who are willing to pay you more money.
      Thanks. That is the kind of feedback that I want - honest and straightforward. I guess I have to start reading some magazines now.
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      • Profile picture of the author JOSourcing
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        Originally Posted by mekap04 View Post

        Thanks. That is the kind of feedback that I want - honest and straightforward. I guess I have to start reading some magazines now.
        Just think... once your style matches that of Cosmo writers, as suggested by tpw, you can start charging Cosmo fees.

        That could be anywhere around $100 per assignment and more.
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    • Profile picture of the author buddhabux
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Yeah, I wouldn't hire you, and I do hire lots of writers.

      The work is uninspired and bland.

      Granted, you are writing SEO articles, which by their very definition are uninspired and bland, but any good writer can turn that kind of content into something interesting and useful.

      Compare yourself to a Cosmopolitan Magazine writer, and you will see the difference.

      As a SEO writer, your clients are not focused on telling a story that people want to read. Instead, they are focused on putting words on a page that will trigger a search engine placement, so that makes it harder for you, because you are writing for the wrong customers.

      Generally, if you want to increase your earnings as a writer, then you must absolutely market your services to different people. The people who pay a penny a word will always pay a penny a word, no matter how talented you are.

      I advise that you take two steps:

      1. Improve your story telling, by observing writers who write in your niche and get paid well for their writing... Print magazines is a good place to look for that caliber of writing...

      2. Market yourself to people who are willing to pay you more money.

      An important consideration in this is to stop selling your services to people who want articles for SEO. Those people don't pay good wages for writers, because they consider writers to be a commodity that they can pay rock-bottom wages.

      However, if you find an employer who values the story that you tell, and the subsequent results they can get from your work in terms of traffic and sales, then you will find yourself working for people who value their writers more than a penny a word.
      Hey Bill,

      i think we're both right. i think she's got real talent, but i agree that she has not worked on her craft sufficiently. the fact that she is willing to ask for criticism like this, though, i see as a very good sign for her.

      much success, david
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      • Profile picture of the author tpw
        Originally Posted by buddhabux View Post

        Hey Bill,

        i think we're both right. i think she's got real talent, but i agree that she has not worked on her craft sufficiently. the fact that she is willing to ask for criticism like this, though, i see as a very good sign for her.

        much success, david

        I would not personally call it "talent", but rather "potential".
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  • Profile picture of the author buddhabux
    Originally Posted by mekap04 View Post

    Lately, I have been wondering if my writing sucks. I can get work at .01 cent a word but when I up the rate to .02 - .03 a word, I get no bites. This has made me look at my writing and determine what I could be doing to improve my writing. I write mainly for my own websites but sometimes, I like to write for others just to have an extra income source. Could someone take a look at this writing sample and tell me what you think. I can take good criticism so don't hold back.

    http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/...tingSample.jpg

    (Sorry the words are so tiny. Had to make it as an image since this was written for someone else.)

    *That isn't all of the article but it should be enough content to judge.
    hi mekap04,

    i went through your sample. no, youre not a bad writer at all. in fact, youre a good writer. for one thing, what you say makes perfect sense. for another, there was an inherent logic flow, which is another sign of good writing.

    on the neg, what i noticed is your "voice." this is a subtle thing, but i think you know what im talking about. i would read the most professional authors and reviewers in the fields you want to write about.

    read their work out loud, then read your work. you will find that your work does not sound quite as "mature" as theirs or as business-like.

    that is my only criticism and it is something you can overcome and get paid better. the challenge of developing your "voice" for a given type of material is one every writer faces.

    once you have it established, your writing gets much easier as well as better. its almost as if you are "listening" to the voice and writing down what it says rather than having to write everything from scratch and wrestle and tussle with the blank page.

    hope this helps, much success, david
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    • Profile picture of the author onSubie
      Originally Posted by buddhabux View Post

      on the neg, what i noticed is your "voice." this is a subtle thing, but i think you know what im talking about. i would read the most professional authors and reviewers in the fields you want to write about.
      I'm not sure if it is what you mean by voice, but I was going to mention the grammar and word usage.

      It made me think of it when you said read what professional articles read like and I think you mention Cosmo.

      Professional writers use words and grammar precisely to say what they mean and don't write with the same demeanor as one would speaking. They also (usually) try to get to the point as directly as possible.

      Compare:

      "When you look in those celebrity magazines..."

      "When you look in celebrity magazines..."


      "...you will often see tons of celebrities with..."

      "...you will see many celebrities with..."


      This first sentence kind of threw the 'voice' off a bit for me.

      As buddhabux said, it is a subtle thing and is one of the reasons it is good to use an editor. These things are easy to overlook when reviewing your own work.

      Mahlon
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      • Profile picture of the author buddhabux
        Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

        I'm not sure if it is what you mean by voice, but I was going to mention the grammar and word usage.

        It made me think of it when you said read what professional articles read like and I think you mention Cosmo.

        Professional writers use words and grammar precisely to say what they mean and don't write with the same demeanor as one would speaking. They also (usually) try to get to the point as directly as possible.

        Compare:

        "When you look in those celebrity magazines..."

        "When you look in celebrity magazines..."


        "...you will often see tons of celebrities with..."

        "...you will see many celebrities with..."


        This first sentence kind of threw the 'voice' off a bit for me.

        As buddhabux said, it is a subtle thing and is one of the reasons it is good to use an editor. These things are easy to overlook when reviewing your own work.

        Mahlon
        Hi Mahlon and onSubie,

        sorry, its a writer thing... its in two parts, and you got the first part exactly right in terms of choice of words. that exactly what i caught, and to put it in the first line is a special sin.

        the first line, indeed the first paragraph, must be a showcase for the rest of the piece. same goes for the last paragraph too. thats what people remember the most in articles and movies -- the beginning and the end!

        as for the second part, which is the inner voice that evolves over time with practice, i dont know if the op got what i was saying or if very many other readers will either. it is a topic more addressed by fiction writers, especially novelists, but it applies to non-fiction and to writing in general.

        thanks, very good comments, and it helped to clarify the semi-mystical point i was making...

        cheers, david
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      • Profile picture of the author mekap04
        Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

        I'm not sure if it is what you mean by voice, but I was going to mention the grammar and word usage.

        It made me think of it when you said read what professional articles read like and I think you mention Cosmo.

        Professional writers use words and grammar precisely to say what they mean and don't write with the same demeanor as one would speaking. They also (usually) try to get to the point as directly as possible.

        Compare:

        "When you look in those celebrity magazines..."

        "When you look in celebrity magazines..."


        "...you will often see tons of celebrities with..."

        "...you will see many celebrities with..."


        This first sentence kind of threw the 'voice' off a bit for me.

        As buddhabux said, it is a subtle thing and is one of the reasons it is good to use an editor. These things are easy to overlook when reviewing your own work.

        Mahlon
        Thanks for pointing that out. I see what you guys are saying and I'm taking it all in.
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        • Profile picture of the author JOSourcing
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          Originally Posted by mekap04 View Post

          Thanks for pointing that out. I see what you guys are saying and I'm taking it all in.
          One more thing -- use contractions. The lack of them suggests you're writing for word count, and not an audience. Either that, or you're a foreigner... or a cyborg... or Data from Star Trek.
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          • Profile picture of the author Dazzling Content
            I have to be honest here. If I wrote an article of that quality, I don't expect to get paid more than $0.02 per word. Although the article is filled with useful information, it comes off as bland or boring. I feel that it doesn't excite the reader or pique their curiosity. It's great as SEO fodder, though; it can be submitted to article directories or for other SEO purposes. But a customer who wants to build an authority site would be hesitant to use it on his/her site.

            To attract higher rates, you need to write more creatively. The best way to improve your creative writing skills is to read short stories and novels. You can also try your hand in short story writing which will improve your creative writing skills immensely. Read, read and read until you get a very good idea on how to write creatively and stand out from the crowd of bland and boring writers.

            Also, make sure that your article has a good closing paragraph, which is usually a short summary of the article's points and ideas. Too often, I read plenty of articles that look like it was abruptly cut off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adevictus
    If I'm going to pay 0.02-0.03/word, I want seriously interesting and engaging content that I wouldn't be able to produce myself.

    That being said, I wouldn't pay the 0.02-0.03 based on the example you've provided.

    From what I've seen, your writing is very well structured and well informed, but it just doesn't have that exciting and engaging factor that I'm paying a premium for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Joseph
    I think the golden rule of marketing is that story telling sells. Look at successful brands like TOMS and method. The story of these brands and what they stand for is why people constantly buy their products.

    I try to integrate a story with whatever I do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Ashari
    Judging by your OP (and the quality of English in the article posted) there is nothing stopping you from charging more.

    However you have to go after the right clients.

    Those $0.01 per word clients will drop you once your prices rise to 2 or 3 cents. However you may find better clients at 10 cents per word. You may also be able to write more appealing content.

    Just a thought.
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    • Profile picture of the author buddhabux
      Originally Posted by Simon Ashari View Post

      Judging by your OP (and the quality of English in the article posted) there is nothing stopping you from charging more.

      However you have to go after the right clients.

      Those $0.01 per word clients will drop you once your prices rise to 2 or 3 cents. However you may find better clients at 10 cents per word. You may also be able to write more appealing content.

      Just a thought.
      I agree. So speaking to the writer in question, yes, i think the writing needs a little work, but the real key for the money is to go after better clients. So work on the writing but even more work on the client getting.

      get testimonials, too, and build up your portfolio -- marketing, marketing!

      Do a search on howto make money writing online and what will come up will be some legit memberships and resources, plus there have been some great wsos on the topic. so use wsopro to look for inexpensive wsos on writing, copywrting, content generation and so on. sorry i cant remember any right now, but there have been good ones even in 2012.

      best, david
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      • Profile picture of the author Simon Ashari
        Originally Posted by buddhabux View Post

        I agree. So speaking to the writer in question, yes, i think the writing needs a little work, but the real key for the money is to go after better clients. So work on the writing but even more work on the client getting.

        get testimonials, too, and build up your portfolio -- marketing, marketing!
        That's it. I think the quality of her article was reduced because she had to keyword stuff. An entirely unnatural thing to do.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mr Ex
        Hi mekap04,

        Your writing is okay/acceptable. Are you actually selling your articles for one cents per word ?

        You should market them as one 250 word article for $3, one 500 word article for $5 etc.

        These are just examples. Test and see if you can get more per article. I never buy articles based on cost per word. I buy on cost per article. I usually buy 500 word articles. To be honest with you...I recently purchased twelve 500 word articles for $3.50 each and the quality was very good. But before I found this person I was paying $5 per 500 word article.

        Thats my 2 cents. Good Luck with your article writing.

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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    An excellent reference for writing is the classic and now public domain The Elements of Style by William Strunk, Jr. (1918)

    You can find a PDF here:

    http://www.cs.vu.nl/~jms/doc/elos.pdf

    Mahlon
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  • Profile picture of the author nrupen
    I'll not say your article writing sucks but needs little improvements, following is style that most of the writers adopt while writing articles

    Title Is Important
    Note that the image does not includes the title of your article, all customers want attention grabbing content and the very first attention grabbing element of article is title which you forgot to mention in image of your article.

    The Beginning
    Every article starts with introduction to what article is about. This is second attention grabbing part, this is where you have to first introduce your article. You managed to introduce article but needs little improvement.

    The Body
    After the introduction ends, body of article starts, here you must provide some quality information, solve problems of your audience or in some way wake up their emotions. The problem part in your article writing is this section where after sometime your readers may feel to stop reading. Improve on this section.

    The End
    There are three types of information articles. Which end with
    1. Call of action
    2. Conclusion
    3. No call of action nor conclusion

    According to me you article matches second category of information article but you adopted 3rd type to end your article. You provided no proper end to article and reader might feel article someone has posted an article which is incomplete.

    Finally there are thousand opinions on how you should write article and writing style, they differ according to targeted audience and niche. Your article is not really targeting any particular group of audience, it appears like information written in academic text books whose sole purpose is to teach not focus problem of people.

    My words might sound harsh but you know what TPW said above

    Originally Posted by tpw
    Yeah, I wouldn't hire you, and I do hire lots of writers.

    The work is uninspired and bland.
    its just because you missed above elements in your article.
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