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Eric Lorence

16 years ago

I use Photoshop Elements for all my personal and professional work.

Easy to use, and no bloat...

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Dan Maloney

16 years ago

Photoshop, yes. But you can also achieve a lot with a program called the GIMP, which is free software similar to photoshop.

There aren't many programs in the same ballpark as photoshop. It's expensive because it's the best. Tell us what you want to be able to do with your photos, and we can recommend a less expensive program.

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graphicsgenie

16 years ago

Originally Posted by enjourni

Photoshop, yes. But you can also achieve a lot with a program called the GIMP, which is free software similar to photoshop.

There aren't many programs in the same ballpark as photoshop. It's expensive because it's the best. Tell us what you want to be able to do with your photos, and we can recommend a less expensive program.

I've never seen anything I consider professional using GIMP, can you show me anything that argues this point?

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Didier Faucher 16 years ago

Originally Posted by graphicsgenie

I've never seen anything I consider professional using GIMP, can you show me anything that argues this point?

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- Steven Fullman 16 years ago
  
  A VERY compelling argument, Didier.
  
  Gimp...Photoshop...they're TOOLS. A creative person will still be creative using either.
  
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- Martin Luxton 16 years ago
  
  Darren,
  
  Just a thought. Maybe the unprofessional look you have noticed with Gimp output is down to the users, not the tool.
  
  People on a small budget who are starting out are more likely to use Gimp than Photoshop, particularly if they only want simple graphics and are not interested in being designers.
  
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Thomas 16 years ago

Originally Posted by graphicsgenie

I've never seen anything I consider professional using GIMP, can you show me anything that argues this point?

Darren

Many "web designers" say they've never seen a "professional web page" that hasn't been handcoded... but 99.9999999% of people can't tell the difference between a hand-coded page and one made on a WYSIWYG program.

Likewise, unless you're trying to persuade graphic designers how great you are, 99.9999999% of people aren't going to know (or care) what program you created a graphic on. If you pointed out that is was created on Photoshop, most will say, "So?" (or, "What's Photoshop?").

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- Ken 16 years ago
  
  Owning Photoshop will not make you a great graphic designer anymore than owning a Porsche will make you a great mechanic. I know, I've owned both for a number of years and still can't produce pretty pictures or make a wonky engine work better.
  
  There are those I consider gifted and I prefer to purchase their services rather than waste time proving I'm only one level above a chimpanzee.
  
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  badfun 16 years ago
  
  Photoshop for heavy duty graphics manipulation.
  
  Fireworks for web design.
  
  BTW, that's ADOBE Fireworks now... They didn't kill it because it isn't the same app.
  
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graphicsgenie

16 years ago

Originally Posted by enjourni

Photoshop, yes. But you can also achieve a lot with a program called the GIMP, which is free software similar to photoshop.

There aren't many programs in the same ballpark as photoshop. It's expensive because it's the best. Tell us what you want to be able to do with your photos, and we can recommend a less expensive program.

Sorry, we are VERY good with Photoshop, my post was aimed more at others,

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Jmn187

16 years ago

It really depends on what type of work you are doing. For most graphic design related work, including web design, logos, and simple stuff. GIMP is perfect and will suite you well. And its FREE.

If you have the cash to drop. Photoshop is very extensive and will give you advanced features like color correcting, HDR, and a whole slew of other goodies.

I personally USE photoshop on my windows box and really like it. But I also frequently do Gimp work on my linux box.

Download Gimp and try it out, If you dont like it. Get a copy of photoshop.

Just my two cents.

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graphicsgenie 16 years ago

Does no one read posts?

Anyone with ANYTHING professionally done using GIMP, yet to see anything of note

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- mscherrah 16 years ago
  
  I use Photoshop almost every day. In my opinion nothing even comes close to the quality you can get form it. That is why it is the industry standard.
  
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  graphicsgenie 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by mscherrah
  
  I use Photoshop almost every day. In my opinion nothing even comes close to the quality you can get form it. That is why it is the industry standard.
  
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- Eric Lorence 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by graphicsgenie
  
  Does no one read posts?
  
  Anyone with ANYTHING professionally done using GIMP, yet to see anything of note
  
  DArren
  
  Since your going to go there...
  
  What does this thread have to do with making money?
  
  Do you read the rules?
  
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  Martha Richardson 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Eric Lorence
  
  Since your going to go there...
  
  What does this thread have to do with making money?
  
  Do you read the rules?
  
  Okay, put away the badge. People use graphics programs to make money, so I'd say discussing any tool people use to make money has a LOT to do with making money.
  
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graphicsgenie

16 years ago

Originally Posted by shinmenx

I use Macromedia Fireworks. It's basically the same as Photoshop.

I imagine there will be a fair bit of difference, it all depends on what your using it for.

Care to share any preofessional fireworks graphics?

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Dan Maloney

16 years ago

Darren, you aren't making any sense.

Many programs are used to compose an image, and if you are a good graphics designer, nobody will be able to tell which program(s) you used.

It's the DESIGNER that's the pro or not-pro, NOT the program they use. If you are great with photoshop, use photoshop. Nobody is going to force you to use another program.

I already told you that most people accept that photoshop is the best program. Your original question asked what people use. Now that a few have said GIMP you are like "no, no, GIMP isn't professional". If you didn't want an answer to your question, you shouldn't have asked.

EDIT: For the record, I love photoshop too. But I don't think simply using photoshop makes you a pro, it's what you DO with photoshop that makes you a pro.

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graphicsgenie

16 years ago

Sorry if I came across wrong, regarding GIMP I keep reading that GIMP can be used for minisites and professional graphics, but the examples I have seen dont show me that.

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askloz

16 years ago

I would agree, I tried GIMP, good for novices, but quality of graphics are, terrible. So I switched to Photoshop CS3, then just upgraded to CS4. haven't looked back since... been using photoshop back in the days when version 7 came out. Sheesh, now that was going back a while

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Sorry if I came across wrong, regarding GIMP I keep reading that GIMP can be used for minisites and professional graphics, but the examples I have seen dont show me that.

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scottmanesis

16 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

I would agree, I tried GIMP, good for novices, but quality of graphics are, terrible. So I switched to Photoshop CS3, then just upgraded to CS4. haven't looked back since... been using photoshop back in the days when version 7 came out. Sheesh, now that was going back a while

LOL, I used to work for a third party technical support provider for Adobe. I supported Photoshop 5 then 5.5 then 6.0 also started with Pagemaker 4.0....and went on to support Indesign 1.0.

Illustrator seems to work better for line art because that is what it is for BUT since photoshop 6 You have been able to make scaleable Vector Graphics....which work just as well, you just have to use them correctly.

As for Gimp versus Photoshop.....Gimp is nowhere as good...ok for non designers I suppose. As for Fireworks wel that would be known as Image Ready in photoshop and its purpose is different than photoshop alltogether but thats a whole other course. You need both IMHO to be a proffesional designer.

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GarrieWilson

16 years ago

Originally Posted by graphicsgenie

Sorry if I came across wrong, regarding GIMP I keep reading that GIMP can be used for minisites and professional graphics, but the examples I have seen dont show me that.

Because they arent pofessional designers.

I have seen people using Photoshop and make crappy graphics but that doesnt mean Photoshop is bad.

Have you actually looked for examples or are you basing your opinion on the images done by hacks/wannabe desginers running WSOs?

Remember, its the person not the software many times...

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Dan C. Rinnert

16 years ago

Originally Posted by shinmenx

I use Macromedia Fireworks. It's basically the same as Photoshop.

In the same way that Cheerios are basically the same as Frosted Mini-Wheats.

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4morereferrals 16 years ago

I use photoshop - I have an old version 5.0 [quit laffing!]

to me this software is a career unto itself. I can make it work, but frankly Im a hack.

Im sure there are cooler things that the newer versions do - I have seen a couple items in some tutorial videos ... but PS 5x is plenty powerful for moi' its over my head as it is.

I'd like ot learn how to make hi rez images that are of text look better.

I use it to make custom marketing pieces - mainly greeting card marketing and post card pieces
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GrantFreeman

16 years ago

"I can make it work, but frankly Im a hack."

I've used PS as a designer since 4.0 came out..and I'm still a hack

There are lots of things you can do with PS6 and above that can't be done with GIMP.

Darren,

Look at my avatar. I created that in PS7, but it's also something I could have created just as easily with GIMP.

Still not sure where you're going with this thread..

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e-mail2u

16 years ago

Just for darren a gimp graphic

feel free to rip it apart....

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askloz 16 years ago

Looks a bit messy to me, to be honest.

Originally Posted by e-mail2u

feel free to rip it apart....
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Internetmoneymaker

16 years ago

Photoshop is very versatile,I haven't tried Gimp so can't comment on that.
Geting used to photoshop at the start is hard.

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Ivancho

16 years ago

I use photoshop for all my professional work and personal work...

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Asher

16 years ago

Yep, I use Photoshop too! There's no others that I
would ever use, I think. The only one was MS Paint
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a1journo

16 years ago

I use Photoshop for professional quality images and photo editing (afterall, it is Photoshop...)

For graphics I use Adobe Illustrator (as its a graphics package) if you are going to hard copy print, you usually need to send an illustrator file as it converts better to curves (pdf) than any photoshop image.

Its dependant entirely on what you're trying to do.

Fireworks is great for web graphics though, although a pain to edit bitmaps... Hope that helps.

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Zubair Zm

16 years ago

I own photoshop 7 and I still use it.
Good Graphic Editing Package.
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gcot

16 years ago

Gimp is the only option if you're on a budget and there's a growing number of templates being developed that makes creating professional ecover a snap.

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askloz

16 years ago

LOL, it's no where near like photoshop, photoshop is far more powerful... FW is limited in it's design capability, and doesn't crunch the graphics as well as photoshop from what I have noticed.

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I use Macromedia Fireworks. It's basically the same as Photoshop.

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EJ Lear

16 years ago

Originally Posted by askloz

LOL, it's no where near like photoshop, photoshop is far more powerful... FW is limited in it's design capability, and doesn't crunch the graphics as well as photoshop from what I have noticed.

Photoshop is made for 'photos' and Fireworks is made for web graphics. The advantages to Fireworks is the ability to make layered graphic files that will display in a browser but can be edited like a layered PSD graphic.

The software is very useful and similar to Photoshop. Photoshop will probably always be the industry standard, but Fireworks does things better regarding 99% of the work that I do. I have about 3 years of experience in Photoshop and own both pieces of software, love both of them.

Have a great night!

Respectfully,
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RebeccaL

16 years ago

I have the latest version of Photoshop and use it almost daily.
I couldn't be without it. It took me a few years to just learn the basics, and I still haven't progressed too far - certainly not to graphic designer level.

But for web purposes, learning Photoshop is quite easy as you'll probably only ever use a small amount of its features.

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christyn1224 16 years ago

I have Photoshop (version 7) and Macromedia Fireworks- I tend to use Photoshop most of the time... I do have friends that use GIMP, but I tend to find it a lower resolution- definitely not trying to rip your work apart, e-mail2u, that's actually a really great image compared to what I have seen in the past- nice job!

I do agree though, if you are on a budget, GIMP is a fantastic option.
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- MarkCue 16 years ago
  
  I use Photoshop 6.0. I've tried Gimp and Corel but I seem to be more productive when using Photoshop. Just downloaded Photoshop CS4 trial and I love the new features. I'm going to upgrade soon.
  
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  Keegahn 16 years ago
  
  Photoshop CS4 for web graphics, photo retouching, etc.
  
  Illustrator CS4 for print (posters, t-shirts, business cards, logos, etc.) because scalability/being vector matters. Sometimes I'll do the occasional web logo too.
  
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  pavondunbar 16 years ago
  
  I use Photoshop and I love it!
  
  I tried GIMP...hate it.
  
  Funny...I upgraded to Photoshop CS4 (which is cool because now you can play with 3D graphics) but I still have PS 7...
  
  So on my desktop I have PS 7 and PS CS4 (which I think is the latest one...)
  
  Same with Dreamweaver...
  
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  Don't know why...
  
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MoneyMakinguru

16 years ago

I recently downloaded a free trial of Photoshop after using gimp for a while. Right now I'm using Photoshop CS4. Honestly, its way better than Gimp, or any free software.

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ChristianM

16 years ago

I used to use fireworks and still would if it wasn't for photoshop actions (don't know if fw now supports them as adobe bought the macromedia stuff).

The difference between the two is that Fireworks is for web graphics and doesn't include the huge amount of bloat that's in photoshop. It handles vector images and integrates with dreamweaver (newer versions may ofc have changed).

I found fireworks much more intuitive and felt that it included everything I wanted - it was aimed at web designers so that's what it did well. I find photoshop clumsy because it tries to be everything to everybody.

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Nitro

16 years ago

I use Photoshop. It's pretty well what i've used since I start doing design, i'm comfortable with it and it's fairly easy to use once you get the hang of it. So it's what's I stick with.

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laurelwachtel

16 years ago

Like most of the posters here, I use Photoshop and love the multi layering tools that it has so you can adjust seperate layers very easily and quickly. If you don't have the cash for it, Gimp is a great free tool that can help you and has a similar setup and tools system. Check it out if you can!

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Andy Smith 16 years ago

When I am not using interpretive dance as my medium of choice, I'll whip out my copy of photoshop, I tried gimp and the lack of shapes on there was a big put off for me, as I use them often.

I had photoshop 4 at one time.. it had no history.. imagine THAT! 1 undo! (I think, it was a long time ago)
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simplevisions

16 years ago

I use Paint Shop Pro 7 which is fine for my skill level and needs at the moment though I intend to buy Photoshop once I've started making a reasonable income as I know it's the best in class.

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MikeWords

16 years ago

I Photoshop and GIMP. I prefer Photoshop.

I am baffled by people saying GIMP is "unprofessional".

Then askloz says "I tried GIMP, good for novices, but quality of graphics are, terrible."

I really don't get what you people are talking about. I can do anything to an image with GIMP that i can do with photoshop. Photoshop is just easier to use.

This forum really makes me scratch my head with the things I read on here sometimes.

Please trust me on this. If you cant afford PS, download GIMP and you will not be at any disadvantage. Who would pay retail for PS anyway?

These must be the psychos making idiotic claims against GIMP. They must be sore that they could've got gimp for free with the same results.

Just download GIMP

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askloz

16 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeWords

Then askloz says "I tried GIMP, good for novices, but quality of graphics are, terrible."

I really don't get what you people are talking about. I can do anything to an image with GIMP that i can do with photoshop. Photoshop is just easier to use.

OI, who are you calling YOU PEOPLE!

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scottmanesis

16 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeWords

I Photoshop and GIMP. I prefer Photoshop.

I really don't get what you people are talking about. I can do anything to an image with GIMP that i can do with photoshop. Photoshop is just easier to use.

Really you can do anything with GIMP that photoshop can do? Could you please show me an example of one color separation you have made with GIMP, also could I have that as a Postscript file? HAHAH, ok....you obviously have no idea why Photoshop is the industry standard.

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MikeWords

16 years ago

Originally Posted by scottmanesis

Really you can do anything with GIMP that photoshop can do? Could you please show me an example of one color separation you have made with GIMP, also could I have that as a Postscript file? HAHAH, ok....you obviously have no idea why Photoshop is the industry standard.

Too funny! I'm well aware that that PS is the industry standard and even mentioned I prefer it myself to GIMP.

Look around though. This is an IM forum. Me nor any IM on here has to worry about CMKY print colour separation!!!!

Newbs on this board are always being talked into paying ridiculous money for things they dont need. When I step in and suggests cheaper or free alternatives its obvious many here are against that.

Whatever.

I'm still gonna inform people that they dont have to empty their wallets to jump into IM.

Bottom line again. No IM needs to pay hundreds of dollars for PS when they can do the same things with GIMP.

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sandy

16 years ago

To add a different perspective, I use CorelDraw and CorelPhoto-Paint.
I started using these programs in a college level graphics course and just stayed with them. I have used PhotoPaint at work and find them very similar.

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archer29

16 years ago

Photoshop is the bomb! I tried working with GIMP for days and just couldn't get the hang of it. Found 6.0 in my files and it was sooo much easier to work but then discovered all those cool (and free) brushes that are everywhere don't work with older versions so had to get C4. I'm learning to build hand-drawn type websites and photoshop is essential.

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billbarrett

16 years ago

Currently I am using Photoshop CS3 - this is the best tool for me to process images and create graphics... For vector graphics I use Fireworks (it works great for all web illustrations, though).

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Steven Fullman

16 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeWords

I Photoshop and GIMP. I prefer Photoshop.

I am baffled by people saying GIMP is "unprofessional".

Me, too.

Photoshop is a premium propreitary graphics program.

The Gimp is a premium open source graphics program.

I work with several commercial companies who use the Gimp in their image workflow...in fact, it's central to their workflow.

Don't confuse FREE with CHEAP.

Don't confuse PRICE with VALUE.

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Jill Carpenter 16 years ago

I have CS3 with photoshop, and just used it today to create some simple slides for animation on a video using screenflow.

I have also used it to design my own twitter page (needs some work, but I was just having some fun one day)

It also works seamlessly with FCP - and you can import psds without having to translate.
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GrantFreeman

16 years ago

"Who would pay retail for PS anyway?"

I did.

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nemock

16 years ago

I started using using Photoshop on a Mac Color and haven't found anything else worth using since. It's come a LOOOOOOOOONG way in the past 20 years.

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brandonhess

16 years ago

I use a combo of Corel Draw and Photoshop Elements 6.0. I am more comfortable with Corel. I also love the zoom on it, just roll the wheel on your mouse to zoom in and out. Speeds things up a ton. It soes pretty much everything that PS does, but at a lot lower price. It isn't as flashy though. I am still learning how to use both, there are a ton of things that can be done, I do not think I have even came close to figuring out all the that can be done.

Best of luck in your journey. A lot of it depends on what you are wanting to use it for.

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Samuel Lee

16 years ago

Agree that photoshop is a great for art editing and cover editing for sure! The latest CS4 has great advanced filters and effects, great for web page and cover design!

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Pat Ordenes

16 years ago

hands down.
there's nothing close to photoshop.
once you discover actions and droplets... smooth sailing.

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MichaelHiles

16 years ago

I use CS3 every day. It's expensive, and I think most people could accomplish what they want using the Elements version, or even somthing like Corel Photo Paint.

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LivingCovers

16 years ago

I use corel draw X3 for all my graphics work. A professional minisite sample can be viewed here;

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I'm learning photoshop gradually, but since i have CorelDraw X3, it works just fine.

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Glenn72

16 years ago

I use Photoshop Elements 5 which is quite decent. It mostly just lacks features such as channels, full curves support and a few other pro features, most of which can be found in the Gimp. Depends on what tools you need. Best to always try the free or cheap stuff first, and then upgrade if you feel the need for something more powerful.

If you're after something strictly for editing photos, there's a great free site I've started using recently- Picnik - edit photos the easy way, online in your browser which lets you colour correct and fix up your photos online. They have some great filters. Not suited to anything that requires text though.

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GeorgeO7

16 years ago

I've been using Photoshop since about 1991, having received an LE copy with a scanner for a Mac. I quickly bought version 1.0 and have been with it ever since on both Mac and PC. Therefore, I'm very comfortable with the software. I'm currently using CS3.

Paint Shop Pro, Gimp and the others are all fine products and in the hands of an artist will produce art and like Photoshop in the hands of a wannabe will produce wannabe results.

Use what works for you and fits your budget.

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carolwingert

16 years ago

I have Photoshop Elements 6.0, and I love it. Very easy to use. I been using it for editing my photos, and doing custom graphics for my husband.

I also have Xara webstyle 4, but only use it for light editing of my photos.

I'd vote for Photoshop.

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Mangozoom

16 years ago

I use Gimp for simple stuff and a Graphic Designer for anything more technical.

Best of both worlds

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kswr123

16 years ago

I use photoshop, Illustrator and After Effects mainly, but soundbooth for my audio marketing

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Ken-g

16 years ago

Hey Darren,

If you realy want to see some brilliant graphic's try down loading XARA EXSTREAM, you can get a full 30 day trail free.

I have been useing Photo Shop for years but Exstream leaves it standing, for under a $100 it's got to be the best out there in it class, when I say class I mean $1000 plus.

It's easy'ier to use than elements and a 100 times better.

For those who are like me and stick with photoshop (cs3) do a Google and you will come up with any thing you need for photoshop, how to's, header graphic's, ebooks actions, brushes, well any thing you need just put in FREE when searching for what you want.

Warriors it's out there if you look.

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GarrieWilson

16 years ago

Here are some GIMP examples. Not minisites but if you can do these, you can do minisites.

http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs18/f/20...h_by_Filsd.jpg
http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs17/f/20...W_by_Filsd.jpg

more at:

Gimpology: GIMP Tutorials and resources for the GIMP

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Ross Kenny

16 years ago

I use paint or I outsource to a pro.. Not got time to be playing with photoshop. Really intense learning curve. I can quickly edit and do the basics but that's about it.

I'm sure I could learn as I'm technically minded but it's so cheap to outsource and be working on something else.

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11Levels

16 years ago

Personally I use Photoshop and I love working with it. On the other hand, a friend of mine uses Corel Draw and has been using it ever since it first came out. We both can achieve the same thing using these two different programs. So, I guess it really depends on you and what you're used to.

And I also agree with some people who said that it's not the software, it's the skills you have to use it.

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Pat Ordenes

16 years ago

Not sure if this is going anywhere (the thread, i mean)...
Are we just flexing muscle?

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kswr123

16 years ago

no. I do not think we are just flexing muscle. I think that many people devalie photoshop.

YES - it is true that you need to be a good designer AND have good software
YES - it's a massive learning curve, and you MAY be better off outsourcing to a pro
YES - it is confusing, but highly rewarding
NO - It is not worth slagging off because its too damn good

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FlexibilityTheme

16 years ago

Photoshop is good, but many times it's overkill. I prefer Fireworks for web graphics just because for me, it's easier to design fast and output optimized. I come from a vector background, so Fireworks allows me to utilize vector drawing tools then ouput as a bitmap like jpg, gif, etc.

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kswr123

16 years ago

yeah, I agree. But for vector stuff I use illustrator

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wannaretire

16 years ago

Love photoshop but I'm only using a fraction of it's capabilities, but after taking an intro class I am branching out a bit more, it can be VERY addicting to figure out new things to do with photoshop

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coco28

16 years ago

I use Gimp and Photoshop CS3. I'm not a graphic designer, so don't use either to their full potential. I find I can do lots with Gimp, by googling for specific tutorials. I am sure graphic designers would find CS3 to be far superior to Gimp, but for me, I am happy using either. The kinds of graphics I create tend to be buttons and headers, so very basic stuff. I've never found Gimp to be wanting, but again, I only use both tools for the simple stuff...

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EzineAdTeam

16 years ago

I have been using Photoshop for about 9 years now. I own Fireworks and it is supposed to be optimized to create web graphics whereas Photoshop is optimized for photo work and enhancement.

With that being said, I still have never bothered to learn the Fireworks interface, and Photoshop is how I create my web graphics (along with Illustrator to draw the vector portions.)

I think each tool has its pros and cons and you need the right program to create different graphics.

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kswr123

16 years ago

yes. When adobe bought fireworks (and dreamweaver and flash = macromedia), they were perfectly able to just scrap fireworks. But here's some IM sense. In order to automate EVERYTHING PERFECTLY AND IN THE EASIEST WAY, you need ALL of the programs. You CAN do web with ps, but fw is optimized for it

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dcushion

16 years ago

I like Photoshop CS3 a lot, but sometimes it's just faster to use Photoshop Elements.

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DrewG

16 years ago

Photoshop is definitely my graphics package of choice. That + Dreamweaver = awesome sites.

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roganthoney 16 years ago

Well I use CS4 right now, but I've used earlier versions in the past (I do quite a bit of photo-editing)

It's an amazing tool in my opinion, quite powerful. If you don't need that much capability you should consider getting a less expensive photo-editing program.
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tanady

16 years ago

Hello Darren,

I own a photo printing business..
that's why I open Photoshop EVERYDAY.. :p

Fyi, there are lots of plugins and actions script
that may get life easier..
ie. create ebook, header, etc..

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James12C

16 years ago

Maybe I'm a sucker. I sue P'shop for everything. Tried GIMP but it just didn't seem as sophisticated.... That said, I don't use the advanced features and could probably get everything done on P'shop 3 still....

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dearaewi

16 years ago

A couple years ago when I started playing with graphics I started with Fireworks because I had it. It was great and easy to use. Finally got an old version of PS to play with and there is a definite learning curve. Never tried GIMP, only because I had access to Fireworks.

Now I use both Fireworks and PS, depends on what I want to do... quick and dirty, I use Fireworks... more detailed and fussier, I go with PS. They both give great results.

I admit that I am pretty basic when it comes to graphics though not that one day I wouldn't like to be able to get into all the "cool stuff."

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