Does anybody remember what PHYSICAL goods are?

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I just had a question, because frankly the Internet Marketing world is starting to drive me insane.

I am so sick of opt-ins, and sales pages, and video testimonials, and the next big money making system.

HOW COME NOBODY ON THIS FORUM TALKS ABOUT SELLING AND PROMOTING PHYSICAL GOODS?!?!?!

I want to deal with people who have no idea what an affiliate link is, and wouldn't know a keyword if it bit 'em on the a$$.

Is there some great amazing reason why we aren't all just building simple niche sites for great niches about physical products and totally dominating?

There are litterally tens of thousands or more, that have never been touched by an IM'er and yet here we all sit day after day discussing selling digital products and crap to each other and a thousand other internet marketers in the most competitive niche on the net - internet marketing itself.

My new theory - If its on clickbank - its too competitive.

If its a digital product - I don't want to sell it.


Does anybody else want to stand up with me??? Rise above ebooks.

TRUST ME ITS A LIBERATING FEELING

Just my rant for the day.

Thanks for reading and let me know what you think

Rebtl
#goods #physical #remember
  • Profile picture of the author CurtisN
    Optin pages, sales pages and ebooks don't have to relate to Internet Marketing. If you create a good ebook in another niche, chances are you'll gain a nice following. You are losing out if you don't sell digital products.
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  • Profile picture of the author MIB Mastermind
    I prefer physical products when making a purchase for myself, but from a selling point of view digital products are so much more cost effective and easy to produce. But for me i'd rather own a physical version of a product
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    • Profile picture of the author testaccount9998
      Originally Posted by MIB Mastermind View Post

      I prefer physical products when making a purchase for myself, but from a selling point of view digital products are so much more cost effective and easy to produce. But for me i'd rather own a physical version of a product

      Don't you think a lot of people feel that way? (i.e. the same people you are trying to sell something too?)


      I use to run an online electronic store and am telling you from past experience 100% harder
      Sorry, I should have mentioned in the first post - I meant selling physical good as an affiliate. - You are right, no way I want to deal with the headache of shipping and customer service either.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashley Wright
    You clearly are losing out if you are not selling digital products, thinking and knowing how cheap they are to produce, I use to run an online electronic store and am telling you from past experience 100% harder
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  • Profile picture of the author sladezer0
    I agree that seeing all the same stuff everywhere you go can be a bit exhausting, but whether you want to sell physical goods or digital goods - internet marketing is a definite must in being successful.

    Sounds like you have some good energy in finding your way out of the norm, which is something we should all strive for to truly be successful!
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  • Profile picture of the author ragstworiches
    Hi,

    I have sold both physical and digital products, I much prefer digital products as a seller, it is far easier to distribute and far nicer on the environment.

    That said I think your real problem is the lack of quality of ebooks, because they are easier to distribute you find there is an awful lot of awful information.

    If you can find a better way of making money selling physical products than digital products of course you should do it.

    I think both are valuable it is just digital is far more disposable, if you can give someone a truly great physical product they will treasure it.

    Good luck in getting physical.

    Phil
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    • Profile picture of the author testaccount9998
      Originally Posted by ragstworiches View Post

      If you can find a better way of making money selling physical products than digital products of course you should do it.

      I think both are valuable it is just digital is far more disposable, if you can give someone a truly great physical product they will treasure it.
      I just feel like targeting niche markets where people are already doing searches for specific goods, they HAVE to already be in the buying mindset.

      Why not just set up simple niche sites and give them what they want.

      I am just starting to discover that the "Internet Marketing Community" is so wrapped up in itself that they aren't seeing the big picture.

      I can't imagine that ebooks and digital sales make up more than 1/10th of one percent of the transactions made online everyday. The REAL internet marketers, those who have REAL businesses online, (the ebays, the amazons, the small home businesses who create physical goods) are the ones who are truly internet marketers.

      I know people will jump all over me, and disagree all day and night, but I am just starting to see the big picture of how the internet marketing community, as we like to think of ourselves here on the WF, is so wrapped up in itself and so narrow minded.
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  • Profile picture of the author jayottoc
    Ja, I still have $1,000 of physical inventory depreciating in my garage
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Lockwood
    Originally Posted by Rebtl View Post

    I am so sick of opt-ins, and sales pages, and video testimonials, and the next big money making system.
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    No offense, but maybe you should find another line of work. Those things all apply to physical products as well as digital ones, so if sales pages make you sick, maybe selling online is not your thing.

    BTW, people DO talk about physical products here. But really, 80% of it is still the same. You just have to consider some extra things like where to get the product, shipping, etc.

    If it's such a great opportunity, why are you (apparently) not doing it? Why not go get rich instead of coming here to tell us how wrong we all are?
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    • Profile picture of the author testaccount9998
      Originally Posted by Chris Lockwood View Post

      No offense, but maybe you should find another line of work. Those things all apply to physical products as well as digital ones, so if sales pages make you sick, maybe selling online is not your thing.
      I disagree. Show me the amazon product, or dvd player, or cell phone, or kitchen appliance, etc etc etc that has a 10 mile long sales page that has to incorporate 50 fake testimonials about have life changing the product is and 100 different copywriting techniques to get a "buyer" in the right mindset.

      That is just not how it works. Sure, there are product descriptions, and product marketing and advertising, but it is definitely not the same.

      When people look at a physical product, they know what it is, and they either buy it or they don't. Theres no "Order Now to Find out How" or "Order now to discover" its not a game of win a mystery prize. Its the market system.


      If it's such a great opportunity, why are you (apparently) not doing it? Why not go get rich instead of coming here to tell us how wrong we all are?
      I just had this sort of enlightenment, and I am going to start this type of marketing, now. I wish I had known this a year ago when I started IM.

      I am not trying to tell everyone else how wrong they are, just offer a perspective that is not heard much around here.


      Thanks

      Rebtl
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      • Profile picture of the author Ram
        Selling physical products as an affiliate is actually much more competitive than selling info products. It's not juts as easy as throwing up a page and waiting for the millions to role in.

        Why? There area lot of people selling the same brands of electronics, for example. The exact same products. Where's YOUR competitive advantage?

        But information? YOUR brand (real or pen name, company name, etc.) is your advantage. Your list is an your advantage and asset. You can build a relationship of sorts with your customers. They will come to see YOUR products as special, different -- even if, essentially, they are not.

        You can do much the same as an affiliate with free reports and the like to build credibility and then make recommendations as an affiliate. You are still building a unique brand.

        99 percent of all self-help, weight loss and make money books at Borders or Barnes and Noble are about the same. Each author, though, puts his own spin on it. Each adds some personality. And each has a following.

        In other words, you can rise above the crowd more easily.

        Sure, there is a huge market fr other products out there. And you can make money. I sell affiliate goods in a lot of niches and physical products are included. But it isn't easier. It isn't simpler. And the profit margins are lower.

        Can you do the same with physical products? Sure -- with your own products. But as an affiliate? Much harder.

        Frankly, you have to sell a hell of lot more outside the info niche -- and spend more on marketing -- than you do with information to make the same money.
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        • Profile picture of the author testaccount9998
          Thanks Ram,

          Now thats the kind of answer I was looking for.

          I asked in the beginning of this thread, was there some major reason why physical products shouldn't be marketed to.

          You made some very valid points.

          I still maintain that setting up a niche site that has not been exploited, offering reviews, price comparisons, and shopping options, even with a much lower profit margin, can make money.

          I am not expecting to just rake in the millions, but with hard work, and enough niches I should be able to make decent money.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    My business is a mix of physical and information products, in my niche sites I love the ecommerce method and dropshipping, but the profits are higher in information producs
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  • Profile picture of the author MarieJane
    Anyone want to take a stab at why the e-book has a perceived value of anywhere from $5-$500 but the same info in a physical book would occupy a MUCH narrower margin of, say, $10-$30?

    (not that I'm complaining...)
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    • Profile picture of the author testaccount9998
      Originally Posted by MarieJane View Post

      Anyone want to take a stab at why the e-book has a perceived value of anywhere from $5-$500 but the same info in a physical book would occupy a MUCH narrower margin of, say, $10-$30?

      (not that I'm complaining...)

      Because WE, (the IM market place have decided thats what these ebooks should be worth)

      Products are all about perceived value. Since the entire IM community as a whole has adopted this "You can sell your product for XXXXX, don't under value what you are selling" Then is has become self fulfilling.

      If we all said ebooks were worth the same a regular books then we would all sell them for the same price as regular books.

      High prices lead people to believe the product has higher value.

      Eventually the uninformed populous will catch up with the IM community and not pay "$5-500" for an ebook, but that is a ways away.


      Rebtl
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    Physical products like you mention are commodities. Merchants are cut throat operating at the slimmest profit margins to make the sale.

    On top of that comparison shopping engines and such will always drive customers to low cost solutions.

    After the above...how much affiliate commission do you think is left. 1%...2 or 3 maybe?

    I actually agree that physical product sales can be very profitable but competition is high and margins for merchants and affiliates are slim.

    You have plenty of people out there with in-house tech building massive engines out of item datafeeds that have websites with tens of thousands of pages all affiliate links.

    It's easier to sell your own goods. If you want to go physical, cool. But I would recommend sticking to your own products.

    Last year I finally trashed about $3,000 of depreciated electronic goods that I couldn't even give away...even my local charity didn't want them. That was from a long gone foray into physical products.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chuck Evans
    Most of our products are physical but we don't have affiliates. We DO have retailers and distributors however.

    Our biggest problem is HAVING enough inventory! We have never stockpiled it and more often than not pre-sell new products.

    The pre-sell is of course to find out how much of any product we need right off the bat. This keeps our inventory costs WAY down and since we manufacture the majority of our products we build it as orders come in.

    It may not be the typical solution but it works for us and has for many years.

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  • Profile picture of the author Hazza88
    I used to run a website selling computer parts about 2 years ago, but packed it all in for affiliate marketing, best choice i ever made, i dont think i will ever go back to selling physical goods in my life, unless of course the internet suddenly crashes
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  • Profile picture of the author cowy
    I promote physical products and earn some income. For me, physical products which has already promoted offline is easier to promote online. I don't promote digital products because I have to compete with lots of Guru.

    Here is what I've done:
    1. Pick a product with good commission in CJ, shareasale or Linkshare. Choose also the Quality products.
    2. Make a review page before send to merchant page. To do so, you can rewrite the products review which already published on internet or just give honest preview about the products
    3. Promote your review page. Blog it, social bookmark it, or comment in other blog. You just need to gain link to make the review page visible in search engine.

    This is called "Silent page" that actually sell
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenneth L
    This post is ALL conjecture. No evidence. No proof. Just theory.

    The truth is, as can be easily seen...

    Both Physical and Digital products work.


    The key is in the marketing. Offering a digital and a physical option can work. Building a product funnel with both types is good. The key is traffic and conversions. Period. Forever.

    Kenneth
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