I am tired of trying to make money online!!!!!!

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I have been tried clickbank-affiliate,adsense,even local sites in google first page.Doesn't work any of this.Can you give me ideas that will be effective within few times.
#make #money #online #tired
  • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
    Clickbank and affiliate marketing works when it's done correctly.

    AdSense works when done correctly.

    Local sites work when done correctly.

    Doing things only a few times...that only works correctly when you know what you're doing. Besides telling us that nothing at all works for you, why not tell us what you actually did and let us help you to better understand how to make your efforts more successful?

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    • Profile picture of the author thxflash
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      Clickbank and affiliate marketing works when it's done correctly.

      AdSense works when done correctly.

      Local sites work when done correctly.

      Doing things only a few times...that only works correctly when you know what you're doing. Besides telling us that nothing at all works for you, why not tell us what you actually did and let us help you to better understand how to make your efforts more successful?

      -- j
      This is spot-on. I know these methods work, I would like to add Google Adwords + PLR product + mailing list submit = $$$
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    • Profile picture of the author ProAffiliate01
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      Clickbank and affiliate marketing works when it's done correctly.

      AdSense works when done correctly.

      Local sites work when done correctly.

      Doing things only a few times...that only works correctly when you know what you're doing. Besides telling us that nothing at all works for you, why not tell us what you actually did and let us help you to better understand how to make your efforts more successful?

      -- j
      Well put, my friend. Life is a "beach" sometimes trying to make money online. However, I encourage you to use the tips on Warrior Forum and don't give up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Smith
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      Clickbank and affiliate marketing works when it's done correctly.

      AdSense works when done correctly.

      Local sites work when done correctly.

      Doing things only a few times...that only works correctly when you know what you're doing. Besides telling us that nothing at all works for you, why not tell us what you actually did and let us help you to better understand how to make your efforts more successful?

      -- j
      Enough said. I would have said that too. More information would be needed to assist you in what you are doing wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author lizashaw
    Sadly it's not the program's that 'don't work' all these programs work and you can earn some good money with them, but it's a case of learning how to market them effectively.

    My advice to you would be to continue with the programs and learn an online marketing technique (blogging, social media, articles, etc) Learn and implement just ONE method first until you are getting steady leads/sales then start to learn a second and so on

    You don't have to spend lots of money to do all this, there are plenty of resources available online (inc in this forum) where you can get all the info and tips you need.

    Good luck, please don't give up
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    • Profile picture of the author hazyl lee
      Originally Posted by lizashaw View Post

      Sadly it's not the program's that 'don't work' all these programs work and you can earn some good money with them, but it's a case of learning how to market them effectively.

      My advice to you would be to continue with the programs and learn an online marketing technique (blogging, social media, articles, etc) Learn and implement just ONE method first until you are getting steady leads/sales then start to learn a second and so on

      You don't have to spend lots of money to do all this, there are plenty of resources available online (inc in this forum) where you can get all the info and tips you need.

      Good luck, please don't give up
      I agree with you, don't give up and keep your passion!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    Did this virtual shout make you feel better? This post is nothing but you venting your frustrations. Consider it done.

    Now, most likely you're jumping around from idea to idea looking for the magic formula that will make you instantly wealthy. It's not going to happen. Each one of those moneymaking models you listed are working for others. The thing is that you've got to commit to doing one of those things for many months before you can get good enough to receive a return on your investment of time and resources.

    Making money online is a slow learning process and those who are successful have experienced lots of failures along the way. Learn from failures and keep going or give up right now.

    There's no quick riches here.
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    • Profile picture of the author sadneck
      100% true. Thank you fun to write. Could not have said it better myself.

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      Originally Posted by Fun to Write View Post

      Did this virtual shout make you feel better? This post is nothing but you venting your frustrations. Consider it done.

      Now, most likely you're jumping around from idea to idea looking for the magic formula that will make you instantly wealthy. It's not going to happen. Each one of those moneymaking models you listed are working for others. The thing is that you've got to commit to doing one of those things for many months before you can get good enough to receive a return on your investment of time and resources.

      Making money online is a slow learning process and those who are successful have experienced lots of failures along the way. Learn from failures and keep going or give up right now.

      There's no quick riches here.
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  • Profile picture of the author peewhy
    At the end of the day, no matter what you promote, you need genuine traffic.

    It will sound obvious but even if you were giving away a Rolls Royce online, if nobody visits your website, you'll keep the Rolls.

    Take a look at how you are marketing your promotions and what measures you are taking to get traffic to your website.

    Why not ask specific questions here and see what suggestions you get back?
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  • Profile picture of the author plongmire
    I am sure it will be said a billion times, find the thing you are willing to do over and over again. And then do it. volume is the key...speed is the key...fail quickly is the key...

    The quickest way to make money online is to offer services
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    • Profile picture of the author ztak07
      Originally Posted by plongmire View Post

      I am sure it will be said a billion times, find the thing you are willing to do over and over again. And then do it. volume is the key...speed is the key...fail quickly is the key...

      The quickest way to make money online is to offer services
      This, so MUCH this!! If you do what everyone else is doing with reviews and getting clicks like the other affiliate marketers most people won't really do much research. If they however are going to spend money on something then you can bet that they want something competitive, and different from all the others. Good luck and don't give up just yet.
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      • Profile picture of the author moneymakersguide
        Internet marketing/advertising is about planting seeds and watching them grow
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        • Profile picture of the author mumu11
          From my understanding, you have try a lot of method and FAIL, but luckily you still know how to rank all of your site on First page of Google.

          So, my opinion why don't you just try to optimize your website and put some valuable content for your readers when their land on your landing page

          and one more thing is I always use Exact Match for my keywords research because that's will give the true amount of traffic I will get with people are searching and ready to buy

          If you can get an Exact Match keyword for 500-1000 monthly searched, I'm sure you can get some money with it
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  • Profile picture of the author Chrisbroholm
    How long have you been trying?
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    • Profile picture of the author rmoore
      Are you doing things that are helping the end user?

      Seriously...that is what it takes to make consistent money online.

      I think people focus too much on trying to intercept "traffic" and not enough time doing something that will help the person who stumbles upon your page.

      -Rusty
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  • Profile picture of the author mlord10
    I have made money with Clickbank, Adsense, Amazon, & local sites...so I know that they all "work."

    If products are selling, people are buying them...period. You have to figure out how to position yourself to be one of the ones that people are buying from.

    A few questions:

    1. Do you have your own website/blog (NOT a free blog from blogger or squidoo type site)

    2. Do you provide value to the end user?

    3. Do you have an autoresponder & are you building a list?

    Those are just a few of the basic things that you need to have setup before you can start creating a real online business in my opinion. Once you have those things set up, you can start focusing on generating traffic to your websites/blogs.
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    If you want effective, it means:
    focus 1 idea/ method at a time, master it, wait like 3 months for doing it the right way, then evaluate what works and what doesn't . Repeat doing it..

    Think as it's a real business, you really have to think it this way, if you're focusing to make money by doing "nothing", then I have to tell you a bad new, it doesn't exist.. sorry..

    My best advice is : Do it the right way, think as this is a real real real real real business.

    Wish you all the best, //

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    I just got my first check from CJ , I thought the wrong thing about CJ years ago, when I first opened my account I saw "$0" in my account threshold, and now I like to see my CJ balance account because I got USD in it. If I can do it, so can you!
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Originally Posted by Brad2064994 View Post

    I have been tried clickbank-affiliate,adsense,even local sites in google first page.Doesn't work any of this.Can you give me ideas that will be effective within few times.
    Pick a niche you know something about and promote low-competition products from Amazon on a review site. This is my business model exclusively because it is mad-easy to rank for such products and conversions are great.
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    • Profile picture of the author richardjes
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Pick a niche you know something about and promote low-competition products from Amazon on a review site. This is my business model exclusively because it is mad-easy to rank for such products and conversions are great.
      I think the Niche question that wolfmmiii mentions here is critical. Everybody wants to promote products to IM mainly but i dont see how you can possibly do that If you have not made any money online.

      Its a process we all have to go through. My passion is horseracing and I am knowledgeable about this subject.

      I set out to provide a service which i do on a daily basis and along the way I have learnt lots of strategies about online marketing and I'll be hopefully translating that to teaching others the same.

      First look at your PASSION

      Are others PASSIONATE about it

      What do you know that you feel others would be interested in. Maybe go to some groups on Google and take part in answering some questions and using that info to build a short report on the "Top 10 Issues relating to XXX" XXX being your subject and then get that online as a free report to build a list.

      Go to some forums related to your subject and place alink to that report in your signature file.

      There are lots of ways to do this but maybe the above will help.

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Reez1
    if you have your own skill/interest such as writing and designing, you can start to open your service thread at the internet marketing forums such as WF at the warriors for hire sections.

    But if you have any other skill/talent such as drawing,talking,singing,dancing etc, what you can do is to offer some creative services in Fiverr.

    The most imporatnt thing to make money online is CREATIVITY and IDEAS and all the other internet marketing elements will follow from there.
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    • Profile picture of the author joefizz
      Hi,

      My 2 cents worth...

      ...pick one area (the one you love) and milk it. Rinse and repeat...

      Don't move on until it's working properly!

      As a side issue, do you have goals (written down), a plan to keep you on target and a reward programme to treat yourself when you succeed?

      I have said often before...persistence is the key quality in IM. It's the thing that kept, Carnegie, Ford and Edison going until they all succeeded.

      Having a mentor or coach will help because it will speed the process up.

      Llwyddiant!

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  • Profile picture of the author oniram
    I know only one way and that is to never give! It takes time and money to build a earning stream. Focus your efforts on what you do best and like doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Muhsin Aziz
    You don't try any of these methods to make money online.
    You choose ONE method and go all the way with it.
    Focus one it all the way buddy.
    Persevere and don't give up.
    Don't just try, make sure you immerse yourself with the
    method you choose & go all in.
    Hope that you won't give up.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Muhsin Aziz View Post

      You don't try any of these methods to make money online.
      You choose ONE method and go all the way with it.
      Focus one it all the way buddy.
      Persevere and don't give up.
      Don't just try, make sure you immerse yourself with the
      method you choose & go all in.
      Hope that you won't give up.

      This is exactly how you have to look at things. Don't jump form shiny object to shiny object.
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  • Profile picture of the author andyjbenson
    Rusty is bang on here!

    There's too much focus on selling and let's be honest, NONE of us like to be "sold" to but on the other hand we all LOVE to buy!

    Concentrate on just ONE income stream, learn it well, provide good honest value to your subscribers ( good god DONT miss out the list building process whichever avenue you focus on!) and this will begin to build trust in you from your subscribers and also gain you some authority in your chosen field.

    Take good care of your list, stick at it, be consistent and the sales WILL come. You cant cut corners in this game. There's no magic software, program, guru who will take you where you want to go. Only YOU can do that, but take comfort in the knowledge that there's a TON of help for you here along the way!

    Basically just pick ONE avenue that has worked for countless others, stick at it, follow the directions you are given and guess what?? Chances are it will work for you too!

    Whishing you all the best!

    Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author andyjbenson
    Rusty is bang on here!

    There's too much focus on selling and let's be honest, NONE of us like to be "sold" to but on the other hand we all LOVE to buy!

    Concentrate on just ONE income stream, learn it well, provide good honest value to your subscribers ( good god DONT miss out the list building process whichever avenue you focus on!) and this will in turn build trust from your subscribers and also gain you some authority in your chosen field.

    Take good care of your list, stick at it, be consistent and the sales WILL come. You cant cut corners in this game. There's no magic software, program, guru who will take you where you want to go. Only YOU can do that, but take comfort in the knowledge that there's a TON of help for you here along the way!

    Basically just pick ONE avenue that has worked for countless others, stick at it, follow the directions you are given and guess what?? Chances are it will work for you too!

    Wishing you all the best!

    Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author housewarrior
    Brad. Is the sum total of your experience? Three sentences? And this your only post? And you're looking for the keys to the kingdom?

    I have formed some conclusions long ago about one post, one paragraph Warrior Forum users. Prove me wrong and I'll give you some hints.

    Norm

    Originally Posted by Brad2064994 View Post

    I have been tried clickbank-affiliate,adsense,even local sites in google first page.Doesn't work any of this.Can you give me ideas that will be effective within few times.
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  • Every method will take time to get better results.

    Try to do it effectively and wait for good results.
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  • Profile picture of the author voidd
    Sorry to hear that you have not been successful. but that is no reason to give up.. maybe take a peek at the motivation section of the forums.. and then get back on track!
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  • Profile picture of the author Nuke07
    Look friend first let me know how much time did u spend in IM, wht did u learn special in this time?
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  • Profile picture of the author AZMD
    Originally Posted by Brad2064994 View Post

    I have been tried clickbank-affiliate,adsense,even local sites in google first page.Doesn't work any of this.Can you give me ideas that will be effective within few times.
    You know a good place to start when putting information online is to learn a few writing skills. No disrespect if your thumbs have been cut off but the use of the space bar would be a good start.

    Many people give up after a few failed attempts and that is sad. But that is also what makes online marketing so profitable for the rest of us.

    If you are truly "tired of trying to make money online!!!!!" there is not much to say... Most people fail and you can choose to be like most people or listen to some of the well thought out advice from fellow warriors above and on other posts.

    It's not easy at first to earn a living on line but the people who refuse to give up on themselves, their friends, and their families, will find themselves working for someone else who refused to give up... or worse yet, relying on government dole.

    Learn the basic skills first then expound on them everyday and most importantly, use the skills you learn right away and put them to work. Focus on one are first then move to the next without delay and you might be really surprised at how far you've come in a year from now.

    Hang in there and figure it out because - you can.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
    Brad.....

    It is all about adding value to the user experience......

    So isntead of banging your head against the wall, consider this.....

    Until Google sells off Youtube (which will never happen), Youtube videos will always get preferential treatment in the Google organic rankings as long as you know how to set up your videos correctly!

    So when it comes to selling products whether it be physical (Amazon) or digital (Clickbank), spend some time to develop a solid Youtube video marketing strategy.

    There are a lot of paid and free resources on here that can help you develop a laser focus with this!
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  • Profile picture of the author madchef1962
    You need to make a plan and stick to it. Patience is a virtue! Joefizz got it right. Edison failed 10,000 times before he invented the lightbulb. How many times have you failed? Take notice of the good advice being given to you in this thread and keep trying. It would be a shame for you to stop "because you hit a brick wall" succes could be just on the other side............
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  • Profile picture of the author seobuzz
    In my opinion you are concentrating on more topics than you should actually! That's what creating the problem for you!!

    Just pick your best shot, and go with that until you taste success.
    Best luck
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    Sounds like your problem is that you're trying to make money online instead of build a real business.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

      Sounds like your problem is that you're trying to make money online instead of build a real business.
      That's what it sounds like.
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      • Profile picture of the author zatoichi2525
        Sorry to hear, I am new to online marketing and I have put in effort and not made anything,but once I give up I am not going to make anything. So try to take a step back re think your strategy, get help, and if you getting too much stress over it maybe you need take time away to see if it is worth it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Kauzlaric
      Just take a deep breath and clear your mind.

      Think about more or less what you're passionate about or what you're good at, then try implementing Internet Marketing to that.

      It's easy to make money when you are doing something you love or are good at. Look for some Guru's to follow, Brendon Burchard, Frank Kern, Mike Koenigs, Tristan Bull, etc... Get their courses or follow their free videos and learn from the experts on what is working right now.

      Like everyone else has stated, you really can make money at anything on the Internet when you apply it properly and effectively.

      Just hang in there, there is always a way to make money online!

      To your success,
      Andrew Kauzlaric
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    • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
      Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

      Sounds like your problem is that you're trying to make money online instead of build a real business.
      Hit the nail right on the head. He's focused on "me me me" and instant gratification. That will never lead to success.
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    • Profile picture of the author benjaedging
      Originally Posted by JasonParker View Post

      Sounds like your problem is that you're trying to make money online instead of build a real business.
      That was exactlly of what I was about to say to the op. My recomendation to op is stick with one method and follow it until you have success and then move to the next one!
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  • Profile picture of the author Theeban
    Those are really great methods to get good income, You have to have patience and follow the correct path to do so. For an example, Even if you are on page 1 on Google, if you do not have useful things to your visitors, how can you expect to earn something? Think on end-user point of view and try to catch their minds. That will give you $$$ and so on..... As you can see threads in this forum, where guys are discussing on how they had made $$$, what they all had done is, "learn and work along with changes"... That is secret of success, do not give up anything, If you are focused, you can WIN... good luck,
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Tracey
    Hey,

    The best thing to do when you struggle is getting yourself a mentor which leads you!
    I did the same thing and I can already see some results!

    Hope this helps, Nico Koehler
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  • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
    These threads are absolutely hilarious

    Has no one figured out yet that this was a troll account and the OP is not coming back?

    Give it up people...everyone got punked in this one.

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    • Profile picture of the author rickalek
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      These threads are absolutely hilarious

      Has no one figured out yet that this was a troll account and the OP is not coming back?

      Give it up people...everyone got punked in this one.

      -- j
      No kidding right?
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    • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      These threads are absolutely hilarious

      Has no one figured out yet that this was a troll account and the OP is not coming back?

      Give it up people...everyone got punked in this one.

      -- j
      Damn I hate when that happens.... I feel like such a lemming.... :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      These threads are absolutely hilarious

      Has no one figured out yet that this was a troll account and the OP is not coming back?

      Give it up people...everyone got punked in this one.

      -- j
      I figured it out as soon as I opened the thread and saw one post and the date of the post.

      BUT...

      Since I was looking at another route people use to make money on the internet I found some helpful information by many on here.

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      • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
        Originally Posted by JaRyCu
        These threads are absolutely hilarious

        Has no one figured out yet that this was a troll account and the OP is not coming back?

        Give it up people...everyone got punked in this one.

        -- j
        But the cool thing is, most of these bogus OPs end up spurring some great conversations!

        As for the fool who started this thread and then probably missed/ignored all the good advice....

        "Pearls before swine."
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Fenner
    Hi
    Troll account?.mmm seems like it is.

    Peace Barry
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  • Profile picture of the author jimbo159
    I love a good old troll thread...
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I click the link and hear this.

    waaaaaa, I want more money.... I am chitty!!!....WHINGE WHINGE WHINGE!!

    Wake the hell up mate!!!

    Write this down, and ask yourself this question.

    * please use big RED MARKER PEN*

    - What AM I DOING to help my reader, listener or audience?

    well....can you answer that? Because most people cant.

    GIVE, REALLY COOL STUFF, and valuable info that will help people, and you will see insane results.

    Instead of come in here, saying you cant earn money do what I have done over the years, and stop asking about HOW TO MAKE MORE MONEY and ASK, HOW CAN YOU HELP PEOPLE GET WHAT THEY WANT!!?

    simple really. So do this, and help people and the money will follow....I can tell you from experience...this is what works.

    Hope it helps and good luck. Maybe this is the wake up call you needed.
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  • Profile picture of the author alamest
    How long you have been trying to make money online with clickbank as a affiliate.

    I believe you are promoting many things at the same time..

    Focus on one and focus on quality content
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  • Profile picture of the author adampowers
    Originally Posted by Brad2064994 View Post

    I have been tried clickbank-affiliate,adsense,even local sites in google first page.Doesn't work any of this.Can you give me ideas that will be effective within few times.
    How long have you tried?
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    The problem could be you are testing out all the methods...

    Since you tried out most of them..find one that is suitable for you and one that shown better results..focus on them..find out where the mistakes are and change it...

    Knowing where your mistakes are is critical..you will need to learn from it and improve on it too...

    Like what others are saying...stick to on method and really focus for a period of time...

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    All I can say is...

    You could have been very close to BANKING WHEN YOU GAVE UP!

    DON'T GIVE UP!
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    • Profile picture of the author DonaldGadson
      Originally Posted by Kal Sallam View Post

      All I can say is...

      You could have been very close to BANKING WHEN YOU GAVE UP!

      DON'T GIVE UP!
      Amen! Don't give up. The only way to fail online is to quit!
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      • Profile picture of the author sidcandid
        Making money online is like any other business in the real world. It takes time and effort to show results. You are also certain to face setbacks. You just need to keep working and stay focused on your goals. You will certainly be successful one day and make money online.
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    Do you want to earn money online?you can learn SEO in short time then start earning.
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    • Profile picture of the author salegurus
      Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

      These threads are absolutely hilarious

      Has no one figured out yet that this was a troll account and the OP is not coming back?

      Give it up people...everyone got punked
      Whats even funier jay is how many dont even realize.
      Just see how many continue to post their 0 cents worth.
      There are loads of these "boo hoo" threads on WF, most of them
      are quitters and attention seekers, and they sure get a lot of
      Attention from the "please dont quit crowd".
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      • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
        Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

        Whats even funier jay is how many dont even realize.
        Just see how many continue to post their 0 cents worth.
        There are loads of these "boo hoo" threads on WF, most of them
        are quitters and attention seekers, and they sure get a lot of
        Attention from the "please dont quit crowd".
        I've started going the other way lately and encouraging them to quit. Maybe they'll give me all of their domains before they do so that I can monetize them and make some money where they failed.

        Wouldn't be the first time I was mean like that.

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        • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
          Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

          I've started going the other way lately and encouraging them to quit. Maybe they'll give me all of their domains before they do so that I can monetize them and make some money where they failed.

          Wouldn't be the first time I was mean like that.

          -- j
          Great idea


          You mean Brad2064994 with one post who joined this month isn't coming back and providing more to this meaningful thought provoking thread? Say it ain't so!
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          • Profile picture of the author housewarrior
            Brian, I am sorry to have to report that Brad2064994 who joined this month and has used his allotted one post is not coming back to this joyous thread to re-invigorate it with excellent verbiage.
            Norm

            Originally Posted by Brian Tayler View Post

            Great idea


            You mean Brad2064994 with one post who joined this month isn't coming back and providing more to this meaningful thought provoking thread? Say it ain't so!
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            • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
              Originally Posted by housewarrior View Post

              Brian, I am sorry to have to report that Brad2064994 who joined this month and has used his allotted one post is not coming back to this joyous thread to re-invigorate it with excellent verbiage.
              Norm
              Yet it doesn't seem to have stopped the countless out-pouring of support (fake) and advice (regurgitated) in this thread.

              Leaving me to believe either:

              a) 80% of people who post in threads only read the first post and skim the rest of the thread... (if they skim at all)

              and/or

              b) tons of people post in the thread knowing the OP isn't coming back and just choose to regurgitate stuff they've seen before to look like their helpful but really are only interested in increasing post count.

              Both are pretty bad but sadly I think it's more "b" which leaves our forum filled with much more useless clutter than it should be.
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              • Profile picture of the author housewarrior
                Hello Brian,
                There are several posts below this one now. Actually, I think it's pretty neat that you and I can have an excellent private conversation that no one else can see in the midst of all these helpful comments!

                On the other hand I AM trying to sell something of excellent value in the form of a WSO elsewhere on here and I only have 2/3rds as many views as this lame thread. Now that hurts! Ouch!
                Norm

                Originally Posted by Brian Tayler View Post

                Yet it doesn't seem to have stopped the countless out-pouring of support (fake) and advice (regurgitated) in this thread.
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                • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
                  Originally Posted by housewarrior View Post

                  Hello Brian,
                  There are several posts below this one now. Actually, I think it's pretty neat that you and I can have an excellent private conversation that no one else can see in the midst of all these helpful comments!

                  On the other hand I AM trying to sell something of excellent value in the form of a WSO elsewhere on here and I only have 2/3rds as many views as this lame thread. Now that hurts! Ouch!
                  Norm
                  Hey Norm. Yes It is interesting... no one cares to read a whole thread and thus misses the continuing conversation/argument/lesson (the whole IDEA of a forum is for the dynamic/changing topic/conversation). So we can have our own little public/private conversation with 90% of the visitors of this thread never even noticing.

                  And I don't dismiss you have excellent value to give the forum.... and so do many others. The real sad part is that this value gets lost in the clutter of the regurgitated and fake empathy posts put out by the less than a month registered accounts who are trying to (painfully obviously) raise their post count... get their signature link seen... etc.

                  Unfortunately it's hard to distinguish (at least early on) from the people who joined the forum within the last month/couple months "trying to make a quick buck" or spam their offers in link sigs... and the ones who are truly interested in learning but also giving back, meeting new friends, etc. (here for the "long haul" if you will).

                  It's funny but also sad... how many people post who are a new registered user from last month or this month. They'll post everyday. Some are useful, or genuinely encouraging. Others LITERALLY copy/paste the same crap in every thread. In most cases though... they only last here a month. Next month and the month after will bring new users doing the same, and the 3-4 month registered users will stop logging in and be all but forgotten 6 months out. I'm guessing the reason for this trend is the hard economic times... people coming online trying to make a quick buck... and are disappointed to find it requires effort... I guess they end up getting a second job? Or maybe worse? Who knows. Unfortunately we never hear from these members again it seems.

                  Post count/join date isn't a good measure of helpful/useful/though-provoking posters... and so it makes it pretty hard to regulate. But I will say, personally, it's worth wading through the clutter to find the posts by genuine people who give their hospitality and knowledge/information for free. I just hope the anonymous lurkers who are thinking about joining the forum but are only here browsing (like I was back in 2004) aren't put off by the less than desirable members of our forum... and DO choose to join and possibly even contribute themselves.
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                  • Profile picture of the author ankur sharma
                    Originally Posted by Brian Tayler View Post

                    Hey Norm. Yes It is interesting... no one cares to read a whole thread and thus misses the continuing conversation/argument/lesson (the whole IDEA of a forum is for the dynamic/changing topic/conversation). So we can have our own little public/private conversation with 90% of the visitors of this thread never even noticing.

                    And I don't dismiss you have excellent value to give the forum.... and so do many others. The real sad part is that this value gets lost in the clutter of the regurgitated and fake empathy posts put out by the less than a month registered accounts who are trying to (painfully obviously) raise their post count... get their signature link seen... etc.

                    Unfortunately it's hard to distinguish (at least early on) from the people who joined the forum within the last month/couple months "trying to make a quick buck" or spam their offers in link sigs... and the ones who are truly interested in learning but also giving back, meeting new friends, etc. (here for the "long haul" if you will).

                    It's funny but also sad... how many people post who are a new registered user from last month or this month. They'll post everyday. Some are useful, or genuinely encouraging. Others LITERALLY copy/paste the same crap in every thread. In most cases though... they only last here a month. Next month and the month after will bring new users doing the same, and the 3-4 month registered users will stop logging in and be all but forgotten 6 months out. I'm guessing the reason for this trend is the hard economic times... people coming online trying to make a quick buck... and are disappointed to find it requires effort... I guess they end up getting a second job? Or maybe worse? Who knows. Unfortunately we never hear from these members again it seems.

                    Post count/join date isn't a good measure of helpful/useful/though-provoking posters... and so it makes it pretty hard to regulate. But I will say, personally, it's worth wading through the clutter to find the posts by genuine people who give their hospitality and knowledge/information for free. I just hope the anonymous lurkers who are thinking about joining the forum but are only here browsing (like I was back in 2004) aren't put off by the less than desirable members of our forum... and DO choose to join and possibly even contribute themselves.
                    I am third one to join your conversation. Its conversation inside conversation. Lol, its maddening to see the whole thread. The op disappeared and many posters are helping him with their advices. Lol, its funny.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeraldNitram
    Just when this thread's starting to pick up, the thread starter doesn't show up again at all. This has become one healthy conversation. When I saw the thread title, the first thing that crossed my mind was, "Maybe you haven't really tried that much?"

    When I got inside and looked at the thread starter's post, I gave myself a pat to the back because my hunch was correct. Well, slightly correct, I guess. Anyway, what he did was what we can consider as one of the mistakes that could really make your business fall down faster than when you've started it up: giving up just after starting it up.
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    • Profile picture of the author dannn1
      If you are tired of trying to make money online have you tried affiliate marketing through email marketing? This method is talked about a lot on Warrior Forum and is said to be one of the best and most reliable ways of making money online...

      It involves promoting affiliate products to your email mailing list. When the affiliate products sell, you make a commission.

      To build an email mailing list, you must first build a one page website called a squeeze page. The squeeze page contains a free incentive (like a free eBook or report) that you will give visitors for free when they opt-in.

      Once your list is a decent size, you start promoting affiliate products to it.

      If you have been having trouble making money online, building a one page squeeze page website and an email mailing list is one of the easiest and most reliable ways to make a sustainable income online.
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    • Profile picture of the author FirebirdKW
      Well, i don't know if the this is a troll account or not, I'm really grateful that this person started this thread, Ive definitely learned a lot form the gems of information everyone is sharing here

      Thank You all warriors
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    • Profile picture of the author bt
      Have you tried offering a service. Is there something you are good at like graphic design or writing articles or anything else you are good at related to Internet Marketing. If so you could make a post In the Warrior for Hire section of this Forum.

      Other Warriors make money from that. Just a suggestion.
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    • Profile picture of the author unoentremil
      Originally Posted by GeraldNitram View Post

      Just when this thread's starting to pick up, the thread starter doesn't show up again at all. This has become one healthy conversation.
      Anyway, it's useful for others.

      I love to see how so many successful warriors share their methodologies.

      Thanks for that.
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      • Profile picture of the author bestrendz
        Originally Posted by unoentremil View Post

        Anyway, it's useful for others.

        I love to see how so many successful warriors share their methodologies.

        Thanks for that.
        hey you know what.. that actually changed the way i was looking at this thread. Because of your post I came to realize that the Thread Title is not only for the one who posted it but it also represents a lot and I mean a lot of warriors in this forum that tried so hard to make money online and failed or did not reach their goals...

        I also noticed that the number of views and comments are increasing rapidly and it catches the attention of 2 kinds of warriors... the warrior that wants to help and the warrior that needs help.

        Keep em coming warriors.
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  • Profile picture of the author sitifatimah
    Im newbie, thank you for the all opinion that I can make a lesson for me to learn internet marketing
    I have not been able and I want to keep learning more n more

    never Give up
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    • Profile picture of the author jjmags1219
      If I may share my thought,

      I am bound to success if I find something that I love, I do it with passion and focus on becoming the best. If I do not love what I do, I am bound to fail. I will do what I love and love what I do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chronic IM
    Hello! Traffic, all you need is traffic. That's everything.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ewan Lumsden
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      Originally Posted by Chronic IM View Post

      Hello! Traffic, all you need is traffic. That's everything.
      Not just traffic. Targeted traffic. You can get a million visitors interested in gaming for a gardening niche and not make a dime. You can get 10 targeted hits from gamers with a site about gamers and make over $50/visitor.
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  • Try working with a one on one coach, usually when something is not working it's the way you look at it, for example I had a problem seing what my problem was, my coach fixed it in minutes and for 6 months I could not. The problem was I didn't know what the problem was.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamC
    Keep pluging away and one day you will find what works for you. It took me about a year to make my first buck online after that it was a question of scaling and specialising in what worked.
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  • Profile picture of the author ddev
    Try Video Marketing. YouTube videos rank well on Google. Can try animoto for a 30 secs video and you'll get it ready within 10 minutes (good if you're also tired of writing articles).

    Always motivate your viewers to go to your url. And remember to enter your url in the "Description" field of the YouTube video (will convert it to a link). Tip: You can drive viewers to a free blogspot url.

    If you offer a Bonus, you'll increase your conversions (that's for sure). Pick a PLR ebook, rebrand it and add it to your page. You can also make a 3D cover for it for free right here:

    http://3d-pack.com/#swf

    When submitting videos, enter your Keyword in the title / description. Make 10 or 20 videos (one per keyword to attack) per product to get started.

    To get keyword ideas, go to Alexa, enter the domain of the clickbank product and pick "High Impact" keywords for the domain.

    Good Luck

    Diego.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex The Lion
    I just want to point out that this one, tiny rant thread has inspired some of the best IMers around to offer you great advice. Read each post here. Read them again if you need to. Pick yourself back up and continue driving forward. If you give up now, where will you be this time next year? If you persevere, where will you be this time next year?
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  • Profile picture of the author makingiants
    I totally agree that the quickest way to make money online is to provide some service of some type that people are looking for.

    If you're good at website design, then provide that service. If you're good at writing articles/video creation/ marketing, then provide that service. There are a number of ways, but this is one fun and great way to do it.

    Also, you'll begin to generate relationships with others who may become future customers/affiliates/joint venture partners.

    Best of success to you!
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  • Profile picture of the author yougpeter
    Internet marketing is not some picnic.There is lot to learn and also lot to do.
    You need to understand how to pick product.What product to pick.My suggestion is pick affiliate site like Moreniche where you can learn and how do things right.They have great forum also like here but that forum is specific for they products.They have real products not information products.This site i am suggesting because there is so many good things what everybody can learn.

    Good Luck and remember to learn every day.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketingdynasty
    The money is in the list. Your focus should be list building. Trying sending your traffic to a landing page, where you are giving something away for free. Once you build a list - then start marketing your websites and affiliate links to them anytime you want.
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  • Profile picture of the author idoitbigtime
    as i see this is your First Post here in the Forum
    try to reach 100 post/thredas i am sure that you will get some ideas and knowledge from that

    Originally Posted by Brad2064994 View Post

    I have been tried clickbank-affiliate,adsense,even local sites in google first page.Doesn't work any of this.Can you give me ideas that will be effective within few times.
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin1
    Yeh nice lot at the warrior forum, but wasted your time on this thread as someone who registered in june and has one post that nothing works is a red flag. If he registered like 3 months ago and worked every day and made some posts then thats a bit different.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    @richardjes

    Well stated. I don't think people give enough thought to this stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author ebooksmaster
    I won't give any advise since ranking in google seems very difficult these days after the pandas and penguins are hunting us down.
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  • Profile picture of the author nishantdon
    try freelancer

    or make your own website
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  • Profile picture of the author Jrivera680
    All of these methods work. Being successful is full of setbacks and dissapointments, but patients is the key. When your struggling to achieve and earn a buck, and you don't give up thats your finest moment.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    You need a solid education and a system that can help you make sales...
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  • Profile picture of the author goindeep
    oh look an aeroplane!
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  • Profile picture of the author Drew Cleveland
    1. pick a maket or two, (3 max)
    2. stay inside those markets
    3. If you have an idea see it through, dont quit half way
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  • Profile picture of the author ImamHariyanto
    Nice actions my dude, all people ever got fail in their business. Please don't give up.
    Online business is one of any way to earn much money. So, thinking about business, the first you have to ask to your self is what asset do you have for your business? The asset is the most important thing to have before you want to start your online business.

    You can start with having your own blog. Share your skill or knowledge in your blog. Make sure that your skill or knowledge is needed by someone else. After that, you can create your own product. I am sure that you have known to do.
    You can promote your product through you blog, make your list building to sell your product, or you can try forum marketing like WSO like internet marketing guru other. Certainly, you need to give unique thing to your product.

    Conclusion:

    The important thing to remember is by having your own asset you will not work to earn money, but money will come to you.
    Make a smart system and the system will work for you.
    It may take your time in few months, but after that you will have your own business as long as you want without feel afraid if your system loose.

    Cheers,

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  • Profile picture of the author prem khaira
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    Do you have too much going on at one time?

    If so, that can be overwhelming. Focus on 1

    thing at a time....Don't give up!
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  • Profile picture of the author Zults
    You just can't give up.

    You never know but you could be a few inches away from super success.
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  • Profile picture of the author ColinR
    Originally Posted by Brad2064994 View Post

    I have been tried clickbank-affiliate,adsense,even local sites in google first page.Doesn't work any of this.Can you give me ideas that will be effective within few times.
    You're tired of trying to make money online? Then stop trying! Instead, choose one thing and stick with it. I used to spend so much time looking for (and trying) different methods to make money online when I could have spent that time using one method and MASTERING it.

    When I first started I tried out article marketing and promoting a Clickbank product after reading "Bum Marketing". I didn't make a single red cent and quit in about a week after only writing a Squidoo page and a handful of articles. Well, a year and a half later I made $400 dollars (most of which in a few months) from those handfuls of articles and was kicking myself for not STICKING with it.

    Every method you read about online has money in it... if you stick with it. Attempting 100s of methods "a few times" wont make you much at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author ferretarmy
    Every method to make money online requires SEO so I am trying to learn everything I can and it is frustrating at times when you see very little returns.
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  • Profile picture of the author ReplenishSEO
    Don't give up.

    Every method even old ones can work as long as you keep working at it. Putting your own twist on a method is what is going to make it stand out from being a reg method to a real money maker method.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamk
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    Rather than thinking like that, I suggest you take some time off and think on your next steps. Maybe you were in the wrong industry or maybe you just have a burnout. What ever the matter, you should always clear your mind and think.
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  • Profile picture of the author sgotit
    Affiliate marketing is very hard and if you are talking about Adsense, I think this is easy and fast way to earn money, but you can't earn lots of USD, Affiliate money is more than other resources so you have to try long time, dear this not short time practice, If you can do hard work long time, I mean if you spend one year minimum then your pocket will fill well.
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  • Profile picture of the author Social App Zone
    Try Goat Farming .. If IM fails, it has always been my fall back
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  • Profile picture of the author KickinConcepts
    Don't give up, pick one thing and stick to it.

    Certainly some things are harder than others but no one succeeds without putting in the hard work no matter how smartly you think that you can work.
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  • Profile picture of the author miracleken
    I suggest you try adsense first. Pick up a good wso on adsense or follow the guides in worrior fourm. Once you setup a website and rank well, you can flip the site and earn some money.
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    Well there is an accidental troll thread and an intentional troll thread. This seems more like an accidental troll thread. Which imo does not even qualify as a true troll thread. Trolls just tend to be a lot more deliberate in their approach.

    Off the topic off trolls. I think the OP is not coming back because he is the type to get overwhelmed easily. I should know because I share this trait myself.

    Sometimes I have made threads and got so many answers at one time it "stunned" me. Its like an instant overload of information in my face and I need to pull back for a few hours to digest it. With the intention of replying later. Then I forget.

    Some people just aren't made out for marketing. My best advice would be to not take it personal (6 exclamation points means you are definitely not doing that). People get attached to the emotions they associate to having a lot of money and so when they don't make a lot of money naturally they get angry and bitter.

    That bitterness will take you out of the game before anything I can honestly think of.

    Step back, view it from afar, see the larger picture. Find people who are successful, study their work, you WILL see the bigger picture one day imo. You also should find one thing your passionate about (to sound like a broken record) and EXCEL at it. You need some type of foundation imo.

    Like are you a "video marketer" or an "article marketer" or a "Facebook marketer" etc etc. You always see people who tend to prefer one marketing method over the rest. Similar to doctors. Think about it, you can become competent at many things. But competence is usually built by repetitive practice of one behavior.
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  • Profile picture of the author madhushan
    It all depends on how much effort you put to master a method. Internet Marketing is not just about making money. It is about learning to make money. Most people don't want to learn, but want to make money. Then, if that method does not work, they jump to some other method. That is why they fail... (No offence... Even I have done the same in the past.)

    If you want to make money through a method, first learn it completely, practise it, be prepared to face failures before making even a single dollar. That is how you become successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarvyDery
    it takes time, patience and dedication. you can't give up now. keep your head up
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  • Profile picture of the author bestblogs
    My only negitive experience is with Clickbank, because of money laundering preventions, they do not allow payment to non usa customers without meeting a special criteria. So my payment todate remains zero due to this restriction, so until I make the correct type of sales, use the right mix of credit cards, they will hold onto my payments?
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  • Profile picture of the author larry1113
    Originally Posted by Brad2064994 View Post

    I have been tried clickbank-affiliate,adsense,even local sites in google first page.Doesn't work any of this.Can you give me ideas that will be effective within few times.
    All of those work. Don't be frustrated man. If you haven't made any money yet it's because you aren't selling anything.

    What are you selling? If you're in business you should be selling something.

    This whole game comes down to : Relevant Traffic >> Converting Offer = $

    Sending relevant traffic to an offer that converts a.k.a. an offer that sells.

    So...

    1) Affiliate offer - cool, so how are you going about selling affiliate offers?
    How big is your list? Do you have a squeeze page? What market are you focusing on?

    2) Adsense - adsense is an SEO (search engine optimization) game. This arena is a little different because you're not really selling anything with adsense. Basically with adsense, you have to ask yourself, how good are you at SEO? How many sites do you have ranked? If I asked you, hey can you rank this site for me, would you know what to do?

    I don't recommend adsense because I feel like your income comes from "gaming" the system. Which is not long term or stable.

    3) Local sites in Google - If by local sites you mean local businesses then this is your gameplan for this arean. If you're doing this then you're in services and SEO.

    So you have this skill which is the ability to rank local business sites in Google. So cool. That's your offer

    So now what? Now you have to go and sell your services to local businesses.

    You need to have a website or sales funnel created that sells a local business owner on your services.

    Then you need to drive traffic to your offer. Think to yourself (how can I reach local business owners?)

    It's all really logical.

    1) You have to have an offer to sell.
    2) You have to have a sales funnel created that sells your offer.
    3) You have to drive traffic into your sales funnel.

    Have you done this?
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  • Profile picture of the author samjaynz
    1. Find a system that works for others
    2. Follow said system yourself
    3. Avoid "jumping ship" when you lose motivation
    4. Earn money
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  • Profile picture of the author RamonPoloHere
    Hey, buddy!

    I'm sorry about that.

    I know it can be frustrating and desperating not to achieve your goals!

    Plus I bet you feel lonely!

    That stinks, friend.

    Just keep it simple (I know it sounds easier than it is).

    Just create or use a pre-made landing page with a free gift, drive traffic to it with Facebook Ads or Solo Ads.

    Then, set up follow up messages giving value and recommending affiliate products.

    You can set up this sequence in the follow up emails:

    Day 1 => Free gift + product 1 recommendation.
    Day 2 => Value + product 1 recommendation.
    Day 3 => Value + product 1 recommendation
    Day 4 => Value + product 1 recommendation
    Day 5 => Value + product 2 recommendation
    Day 6 => Value + product 2 recommendation
    Day 7 => Value + product 2 recommendation
    Day 8 => Value + product 2 recommendation
    Day 9 => Value + product 3 recommendation

    ... And keep going on and on with every product you want to promote.

    I recommend you to set up the email to be emailed from Monday through Friday.

    Once you have this set up.

    Drive traffic with Facebook Ads and/or Solo Ads!

    Good luck!!
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    • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
      Originally Posted by RamonPoloHere View Post

      Hey, buddy!

      I'm sorry about that.

      I know it can be frustrating and desperating not to achieve your goals!

      Plus I bet you feel lonely!

      That stinks, friend.

      Just keep it simple (I know it sounds easier than it is).

      Just create or use a pre-made landing page with a free gift, drive traffic to it with Facebook Ads or Solo Ads.

      Then, set up follow up messages giving value and recommending affiliate products.

      You can set up this sequence in the follow up emails:

      Day 1 => Free gift + product 1 recommendation.
      Day 2 => Value + product 1 recommendation.
      Day 3 => Value + product 1 recommendation
      Day 4 => Value + product 1 recommendation
      Day 5 => Value + product 2 recommendation
      Day 6 => Value + product 2 recommendation
      Day 7 => Value + product 2 recommendation
      Day 8 => Value + product 2 recommendation
      Day 9 => Value + product 3 recommendation

      ... And keep going on and on with every product you want to promote.

      I recommend you to set up the email to be emailed from Monday through Friday.

      Once you have this set up.

      Drive traffic with Facebook Ads and/or Solo Ads!

      Good luck!!
      I don't really have the right to be commenting on this as I've never built a list before but that seems likes far too much plugging of a product.

      I wonder if focusing on 1 product would be smarter, and offering value on certain days with no recommendations at all.

      Every so often, just plug the same product in a different way.

      I don't know, I guess I will have to learn for myself as this list made me very curious to actually try this out. Just seems like too much promoting for some reason.

      -Red
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      • Profile picture of the author RamonPoloHere
        Originally Posted by RamonPoloHere
        Hey, buddy!

        I'm sorry about that.

        I know it can be frustrating and desperating not to achieve your goals!

        Plus I bet you feel lonely!

        That stinks, friend.

        Just keep it simple (I know it sounds easier than it is).

        Just create or use a pre-made landing page with a free gift, drive traffic to it with Facebook Ads or Solo Ads.

        Then, set up follow up messages giving value and recommending affiliate products.

        You can set up this sequence in the follow up emails:

        Day 1 => Free gift + product 1 recommendation.
        Day 2 => Value + product 1 recommendation.
        Day 3 => Value + product 1 recommendation
        Day 4 => Value + product 1 recommendation
        Day 5 => Value + product 2 recommendation
        Day 6 => Value + product 2 recommendation
        Day 7 => Value + product 2 recommendation
        Day 8 => Value + product 2 recommendation
        Day 9 => Value + product 3 recommendation

        ... And keep going on and on with every product you want to promote.

        I recommend you to set up the email to be emailed from Monday through Friday.

        Once you have this set up.

        Drive traffic with Facebook Ads and/or Solo Ads!

        Good luck!!
        I don't really have the right to be commenting on this as I've never built a list before but that seems likes far too much plugging of a product.

        I wonder if focusing on 1 product would be smarter, and offering value on certain days with no recommendations at all.

        Every so often, just plug the same product in a different way.

        I don't know, I guess I will have to learn for myself as this list made me very curious to actually try this out. Just seems like too much promoting for some reason.

        -Red
        I accept your opinion, but you don't necessary need to be promoting that product hard.

        You just provide some value related to what that product teaches and then a smooth call to action.

        You gotta make your readers used to see you as a business person, and not as a content provider, so they get used to buy from you.


        If you see these "gurus", ALL OF THEM have always something to promote... and we all buy.

        You just have to be smooth.


        And regarding promoting just one product...

        Why would you do that to yourself and your list.

        There are way too many products out there to just stick to only one product.
        It's too much stress and you limit you income potential with your list.

        If somebody in your list keep seeing stuff related to the same offer every time they open your email and they weren't interested in your offer the past 20 emails, they will either stop opening your emails or removing themselves from your list.


        I don't see Wall Mart selling just one brand of milk.

        I don't see BMW selling just one car.

        They have different options for different people and needs.

        It's impossible to give EFFECTIVE service just by promoting one product, nevermind the stress you will have on yourself to sell that one product!
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          Only when there is no road left does one finally feel despair.
          Failure is the mother of success.
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        • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
          Originally Posted by RamonPoloHere View Post

          I accept your opinion, but you don't necessary need to be promoting that product hard.

          You just provide some value related to what that product teaches and then a smooth call to action.

          You gotta make your readers used to see you as a business person, and not as a content provider, so they get used to buy from you.


          If you see these "gurus", ALL OF THEM have always something to promote... and we all buy.

          You just have to be smooth.


          And regarding promoting just one product...

          Why would you do that to yourself and your list.

          There are way too many products out there to just stick to only one product.
          It's too much stress and you limit you income potential with your list.

          If somebody in your list keep seeing stuff related to the same offer every time they open your email and they weren't interested in your offer the past 20 emails, they will either stop opening your emails or removing themselves from your list.


          I don't see Wall Mart selling just one brand of milk.

          I don't see BMW selling just one car.

          They have different options for different people and needs.

          It's impossible to give EFFECTIVE service just by promoting one product, nevermind the stress you will have on yourself to sell that one product!

          Excellent! Definitely can't argue against that logic so I won't even try.

          I absolutely agree with the way you framed it now.

          BTW for people asking "why are people still posting in this thread" its because the OP doesn't need to be around for people to still learn from OTHER people on this forum.

          -Red
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    • Profile picture of the author Offline Doctor
      Are you more concerned with making money or making money online? Why not take your online talent and go offline for a while?

      Make some money to keep mama happy, keep your spirits up, and have some cash to pursue your online ventures? Win-Win.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketingdynasty
    DO NOT GIVE UP! You have to keep trying if you want to make money online and grow a business. Start with one method and stick with it until you have become profitable with it.
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    Hey Buddy;

    Nice Work
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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      Do not quit now. It takes time, hard work, determination, patience, and on and on to do this business. This is not a get rich quick scheme. If whatever you are doing is not making you any money and you have given it enough time then you need to make some changes because obviously something isn't right. Keep trying!
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  • Profile picture of the author biz_online
    Originally Posted by Brad2064994 View Post

    I have been tried clickbank-affiliate,adsense,even local sites in google first page.Doesn't work any of this.Can you give me ideas that will be effective within few times.
    Let's Say You Opened A Restaurant And Invited People To Buy Your Food And You Made A Great Offer! You Tweaked It And Tweaked It Until It Became An "Irresistible Offer!!!" Now, 90% of the people buy... but none of them remember where your restaurant is... they can't find it. They got a great deal and they just move on to the next restaurant. Why? Because you didn't hand out flyers at the door... you didn't collect their contact info to follow-up, you didn't greet them with a friendly face so that they feel that they can trust you.

    Go build your list and focus on "Relationship Marketing." Most people who make a lot of money with affiliate marketing have their own products, a customer list and a blog so that regular customers can come back and visit when they want more of what you have to offer.

    Most of what you hear online is people just repeating what they heard else where... treat your marketing like a "Real Business" and you will see results.

    Stay away from Adsense... There's A Penguin and A Panda... That will thwart your best efforts, PPV is for pros, as well as Media Buying, PPC is tricky if you can't get the right ROI.

    Go build that list focused around a high traffic topic and you will see results.
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  • Profile picture of the author RrJhh
    Hi Brad

    To begin it seems impossible to earn money on the internet, but when explained properly it's not as hard as it seems. I've spent the last 3 years researching the subject, trust me I know what it's like

    In order to make money you will always need traffic, visitors to your website. Once you have a regular stream of visitors you can monetize. There's affiliate marketing, advertising, blogging, get paid to websites, freelance work, you can sell your advertising space (need a lot of visitors) and more.

    Check out my link below, if you have any doubts or questions just ask. Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Willy
    Before you are about to give up, I want you to search about "John Cena".

    Look at the message of his t-shirt man, he's a good example for all of us here.

    Keep going and don't look back!!!

    Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author maxibrian
    How long have you been trying?
    Im sure uoi will succsess soon!,
    Never GIVE UP.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesgan
    All these methods works,
    You may focus each method one-by-one while driving traffic to your site.

    Traffic is the bloodstream of online business, do use both free and paid traffic generation methods to get your targeted audience on your niche.

    Draw out a daily schedule to perform online tasks(stick with your schedule) to create habits on doing your online business.

    Focus, Consistent and Perseverance are the keys to success both online & offline world.
    Enjoy
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  • Profile picture of the author Xifos
    I guess the main point for me here is that it comes back to learning properly how to use what you're using before expecting miracle results. You need to invest time in getting the right knowledge if you don't have a budget.
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  • Profile picture of the author nihittuli1
    dont be just tired. Work skillfully to achieve target audience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wade32
    Get traffic thru social media tips. Check this post out on Get Social Media Traffic I get over 100,000 social media hits doing this. To make money, you need traffic, & this is the best way I have found to get it.
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  • Profile picture of the author xeon9
    All I can say is,

    Successful people make mistakes but they don't quite.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    Can't make money online? Start teaching others how to do it.

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  • Profile picture of the author MaggieDavid
    Ok so you're tired? Take a step back and write down what you have done to try and make money online. Once this is done, either write it down in this thread so we can all help or Private message me.

    We have all at times been there and said that, felt that and at times I am sure if everyone is honest they have days like that still. But what we don't do is give up.

    I bet if you spoke to everyone personally here, you will find they all tried methods that did not work, but....they kept on refining and trying again, and refining and trying again!!

    We/I look forward to hearing from you
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  • Profile picture of the author asupport
    In difference to offline marketing internet marketing won't show results immediately. I am not talking about Adwords or PCC, I am talking about getting a website ranked. It can take months without seeing any results. A lot of marketers will give up, because they are under the impression that it does not work. It does work! Build backlinks and give it some time.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamk
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    Dont think too hard. Just go and do it. It seems you are just wasting time on methods and stuff. Look you got so many warriors supporting you, you should atleast give it a try.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randohm
    Hey Brad, sorry to hear you're going through a frustrating time. It happens to us all. I think the bottom line is find something you enjoy doing and talking about and stick with it. Some people love internet marketing and love learning and doing all kinds of ways to do it. Some people love dogs and just do internet marketing as a way to share and make some money talking about dogs. If you're not enjoying yourself then find something you do enjoy, get good at it, and then market it. Even if you don't make a lot of money, as long as you like doing it you'll be having fun.
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  • Profile picture of the author underthegun
    Originally Posted by Brad2064994 View Post

    I have been tried clickbank-affiliate,adsense,even local sites in google first page.Doesn't work any of this.Can you give me ideas that will be effective within few times.
    Sounds like you need some hope, hope and experience.

    Here's what ya do. Start offering services to people and learn from each job you get.

    Services can vary, depending on your skills. Writing, SEO, Design, Code, and so forth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Recespeanut
    hmmm where is the op person? but yeah it takes some time to get the hang of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author MJ Christiansen
    Well...I've definitely been in your situation. My best advice to you is not to give up...I know that may seem like the easiest thing to do...but if you're in this for something much more, then stick with it until you're successful. Right now I can advise you to just focus on one thing, and that is being in 1 niche, and having only one website...don't try to do many things at once because this is killer...and you won't get anywhere. I know this because I was like this, and actually got frustrated and quit several times, because I really wanted to make money online. Just build your blog/website, do some backlinking and you'll start to see results.

    Things started to change for me when I really committed to it and stopped playing games and trying to do things the easy way. Hope this helped, Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    Don't know about the click bank. but Adsense works very well dude. Yes I have to say this because my main earnings are coming form Adsense
    Just read and see the case studies.Gradually you can understand the loopholes. then target them and get rich
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert H Cwik
    Everything works when done correctly, with appropriate attitude and focus. No more comments
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  • Profile picture of the author michaeljcheney
    We've all been there - you try so hard and are frustrated when money doesn't start spitting out of the CD-ROM machine on your computer! :-)

    The fact of that matter is that, like farming, with internet marketing you need to:
    - Plant lots of seeds
    - Tend to the fields
    - Be subject to fate (bad weather, pests, birds, stony ground)
    - Harvest at the right time and re-plant

    There is no quick fix. I'm an "overnight internet millionaire" who built his first website in 1995. That is one helluva long night... :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author DiSossa
      Keep trying man! I'm just gratuated and I'm trying it too! Made no money online yet, but my offline business is booming.
      And I'm selling one of the stupidest things you've ever heard, I sell rabbit cages which I built myself.
      I started with one but in just 3 weeks I have already made (and sold) 12 rabbit cages. These cages sell in store for a price of €70-140, I build them for €20 and sell them for €50-90, depending on the sizes.
      So if you can't succeed online, try offline my friend!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    I've been trying for nearly six years and have had relatively little success. If you give up, then you will not have a chance to succeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author michaeljcheney
      Originally Posted by Michael55555 View Post

      I've been trying for nearly six years and have had relatively little success. If you give up, then you will not have a chance to succeed.
      Exactly - you will only fail if you quit.

      OR if you keep doing the wrong stuff all your life. Yeah, there's always that... :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Golding
    Hey Brad,
    I feel you, as I have been there and done that, but so have the GURUS on this site. They are not smarter than you, only better informed!

    Look here and if you can't succeed after this event at least you did everything you could, but I have a great feeling that you will succeed. All you need is a system!

    Will Golding
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      People - you are being "had" yet again.

      "Brad" joined - posted this one post - and hasn't logged back in since one minute after he posted.

      Attention deficit? Or just pulling a string to see what happens?
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  • Profile picture of the author prroger
    Focus on one thing. Make it excellent. Keep at it. When its right you'll know because then you'll start making money. Don't buy another WSO until the first thing works.
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  • Profile picture of the author kyannas26
    Exactly! Sounds like your not giving it time to work. I'm new to this earning money online game but the one the one thing I've picked up on this whole process is that it takes patience. Building. Yeah adsense clickbank affiliates might pay but I'd rather take time and build my empire. Trust me!! Income streams will come at you from every direction.
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    • Profile picture of the author WishfulDoing
      Stick with niches that are about what you know very well or are good at. That way you will have plenty to write about and have enough interest to stay in the game long enough to make money. Everyone has special areas of interest that they just know a lot about. It could be a sport, a craft, politics, how to play bridge, anything.

      Good luck to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marcus Sobral
    As a newbie a few times will never work!

    As an experienced marketer a few times works almost every time!

    So there is my tip!
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  • Profile picture of the author jcpaynter101
    Do not quit!! It took me over a year to earn my first check. Hard work pays off, just have faith and read the forum, and take action, and you will see results!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gambino
    Cool, good luck in your other pursuits. See ya never, probably.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zoey Kates
    What I suggest to you my friend is instead of starting afresh, try buying something that is already established.Like something on flippa.
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  • Profile picture of the author Weblin
    All the people who made success on the web never stopped they were always consistent. I was talking to a guy yesterday who was making 3000 $ from affiliates sell but he learned and worked hard for 6 years to achieve it. If success would be easy then everyone had become rich today. You can always try something new. To become success in anything you need traffic, that can be only achieved by good content on blog and mass-promoting.
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  • Profile picture of the author vCr8
    if you are tired of doing these stuff... then I suggest that it is best if you take a moment to rest. Then think about it,,, what are you doing wrong,because honestly if others are making profit in these platforms, then you might be doing something wrong that makes your venture unprofitable,.
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  • Profile picture of the author denysapu
    Originally Posted by Brad2064994 View Post

    I have been tried clickbank-affiliate,adsense,even local sites in google first page.Doesn't work any of this.Can you give me ideas that will be effective within few times.
    Sell your skill, sell your time, sell a service!
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    Don't worry be happy!

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  • Profile picture of the author faisiulee
    It seems you have not learnt from anyone, mean have not get education in this field, otherwise the things are not so much complicated as you feeling, i think what you need is to rebuild your basic concepts about how a site works, don't go in to much hurry to make money, because it is not the case here, if you will go for money you will never have it, i can bet with you, but if you will go for quality content then will ultimately build loyal readership and then money will itself come to you. So just work hard, and learn things from somewhere like warrior forum, it is such great reource for newbies.
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  • Profile picture of the author jeskola
    The answer to your question is in your post title.

    If all you are trying to do is make money then your not going to get very far.

    Give valuable information to people - help them and then monetize. Then I guarantee you will have a gold mine very soon
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    Don't look to MAKE money - look to HELP people and you will make all the money you can ever want.

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  • Profile picture of the author Norfolk
    Don't try. Trying is preparing to fail. Instead of trying, do.
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  • Profile picture of the author bestrendz
    I can't believe I had to read all the replies after realizing at some stage that the OP is not even interested on all the advises that are posted in this thread. It seems that people are just reading the first page and leaving a post not even going through the rest of the pages or even caring if what they are posting makes sense.

    -sigh-
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    I posted in another threat last night, that most people give up when they are so close to succeeding. And that is a general problem, not solely an IM one.

    Do you even know how close you were to nailing it when you first started working on a new method and then gave up?

    Stop expecting INSTANT results, build relationships, network with fellow marketers, and in general try to have a little bit of fun. Building a business is not easy. If it was EVERYONE would be a business owner.

    Go back to the drawing board, find something that you are interested in and hustle! Whatever you do, don't give up!

    BP
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  • Profile picture of the author moreno
    i would suggest to relax on the beach ......and then evaluate what you really want to do. Maybe using something your are passionate about or thinking out of the usual box can help , but first relax enjoy the sky and nature and sea , clear your mind and start new.
    good luck
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