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Any good recommendations on good and cheap SEO writing in WF? Budget is around $5 for 1000 words.
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  • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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    Originally Posted by hazyl lee View Post

    Any good recommendations on good and cheap SEO writing in WF? Budget is around $5 for 1000 words.

    I think your on the wrong forum for that price. Is ANYONE that desperate?
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    There are plenty of freelancing sites out there to hire writers, but at that price point I highly doubt you will find a native English speaker to write for you.

    I've hired a lot of low cost writers over the last few years, and at $5 per 1000 words I suspect the best thing you'll find is some Indian writers with English as a 2nd language. In other words, the writing will be understandable, but far from quality. I recently put another job up on Elance.com and selected America for the preferred country, and the average bidder had their price at around $8-12 for a single 300-word article.

    Also something you need to consider is what "SEO writing" even means anymore. Google recently has been penalizing people for over-optimizing their sites, or so it seems. So are you looking for a writer that will just spam your keyword into the article at a preset rate? Or are you looking for one who will research related keywords and insert those? Or what?

    You need to define what your articles need in them very clearly if you want anything resembling quality writing or good SEO in them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
    Originally Posted by hazyl lee

    Any good recommendations on good and cheap SEO writing in WF? Budget is around $5 for 1000 words.
    check the warriors for hire section but be more realistic in your pricing. you are investing in your business and the writing will be a direct reflection on you afterall.


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  • Profile picture of the author dennon
    you may try Fiverr for this.
    or microworkers.com
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    • Profile picture of the author bladening
      Originally Posted by dennon View Post

      you may try Fiverr for this.
      or microworkers.com
      thank you , i got it
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  • Profile picture of the author dennis09
    Seriously, your best bet is iWriter. Because most people that would write that much for your amount would likely produce garbage. With iWriter you can at least reject the garbage and get your moneys "worth".
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    • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
      Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

      Seriously, your best bet is to earn a little more money and then re-adjust your financials.
      Fixed that for ya Dennis.

      Hazyl...you've been on here long enough to know better! If you only pay for garbage, you'll only get garbage back. I can't imagine someone writing anything of quality for that price.

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      • Profile picture of the author dennis09
        Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

        Fixed that for ya Dennis.

        Hazyl...you've been on here long enough to know better! If you only pay for garbage, you'll only get garbage back. I can't imagine someone writing anything of quality for that price.

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        You'd be surprised.

        @OP: I just checked and iWriter will cost you $7.50 for a 1000 basic article so nevermind. In that case I recommend oDesk, but make sure you interview and test until you find someone suitable.
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        • Profile picture of the author hazyl lee
          Originally Posted by dennis09 View Post

          You'd be surprised.

          @OP: I just checked and iWriter will cost you $7.50 for a 1000 basic article so nevermind. In that case I recommend oDesk, but make sure you interview and test until you find someone suitable.
          Yea.. I would take your suggestion Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Theeban
        Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

        Fixed that for ya Dennis.

        Hazyl...you've been on here long enough to know better! If you only pay for garbage, you'll only get garbage back. I can't imagine someone writing anything of quality for that price.

        -- j
        I do agree with you, I really do not think that you will get well written articles with lot of good and useful info to your visitor, just for $5.
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        • Profile picture of the author The Link Broker
          Originally Posted by BudaBrit View Post

          Hazyl,

          Google is on a crusade, a crusade against poor quality content. So commissioning 1000 words at half a cent a word is really not going to go down well with them. If you pay for an article at this price, you can expect to have something that reads like:

          For Google too love you, need to have natural backlinks to your site. It is imperative you make sure...

          In my experience, they have very odd word choice, such as "imperative", no-one will find that useful. You need to be hiring a native writer who can writer content or articles that are easy to read and understand but get across every point cleanly and concisely, leaving the audience feeling they've just spent 5 minutes of their time being enlightened.

          As that's the big thing about Penguin, Google wants natural links, so why not give them some? By providing your audience high quality content they want to share, you not only get your links from that article, but you get the much higher quality links from the audiences share of the article, as well as all that direct traffic.

          A piece of top quality writing can be worth 10000 times the cost of the article, while that piece of $5/1000 words is barely worth that $5 you spent.

          So spend that extra $40 and you will reap the benefits. Thousands of times.

          Originally Posted by Theeban View Post

          I do agree with you, I really do not think that you will get well written articles with lot of good and useful info to your visitor, just for $5.

          I mean no disrespect to either of you here. With that said, these are not helpful posts, as 2 things are very obvious.

          1: Neither of you have tried a $5/1,000 words service. Don't knock it until you've tried it.

          2: Neither of you actually understood what the OP is looking for.

          The OP didn't ask for content writing that fit those specifications, as in content that the OP is going to put on their own blog.

          The OP asked for SEO writing. SEO writing is simply a straightforward article laced with keywords of your choice at an optimal keyword density. These are great for article marketing, syndication, web 2.0 posts in some cases, and much more.

          They're articles to be used for the purpose of SEO - for creating backlinks to one's own website. They are not expected to be up to par with the quality expectations of something you'd put on your own blog. They simply need to be legible and make sense.

          I have bought countless articles like that for $5 and have been very satisfied. In fact many of them were good enough that with a little re-writing here and there, they'd be high-quality enough to use as content on a blog. I'd never pay more than that for them either and neither should the OP.
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          • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
            Originally Posted by The Link Broker View Post

            I mean no disrespect to either of you here. With that said, these are not helpful posts, as 2 things are very obvious.

            1: Neither of you have tried a $5/1,000 words service. Don't knock it until you've tried it.

            2: Neither of you actually understood what the OP is looking for.

            The OP didn't ask for content writing that fit those specifications, as in content that the OP is going to put on their own blog.

            The OP asked for SEO writing. SEO writing is simply a straightforward article laced with keywords of your choice at an optimal keyword density. These are great for article marketing, syndication, web 2.0 posts in some cases, and much more.

            They're articles to be used for the purpose of SEO - for creating backlinks to one's own website. They are not expected to be up to par with the quality expectations of something you'd put on your own blog. They simply need to be legible and make sense.

            I have bought countless articles like that for $5 and have been very satisfied. In fact many of them were good enough that with a little re-writing here and there, they'd be high-quality enough to use as content on a blog. I'd never pay more than that for them either and neither should the OP.
            But this is pointless. Article marketing can work wonders for your business, but only if used correctly, otherwise you're only going to get at value results.

            By creating an article that has a reasonable keyword density, this article will provide these links back to your site. On article directories and the like, they are worth little, but on sites with a high PR, they are worth a nice chunk. If they do not provide value, though, Google could come along and decide this nice chunk of juice you just got is actually against it's terms of service and drop you.

            Bang, you're gone, you need to do the whole process again.

            Instead, by creating an SEO article that actually reads well, not only will you get the link juice from wherever you put it, but you will also get the link juice from wherever your readers put it. And you will also get their direct traffic too.

            This is the big thing I don't understand about many so called Internet Marketers. It's in the name, so use it! You need to market your company. Google wants organic links, so give it to them. By providing high quality content - keyworded content - you are not only getting the same you would from a $5 article, but you are destroying the possibility of Google hating you, you're increasing the probability people will click through directly and you are increasing the chances of people syndicating this work elsewhere.

            The single biggest tool available to people wanting to promote their business is people. Engage them, enthuse them, get them on your side - that's the essence of marketing, not trying to trick the SEs.

            Don't provide poor quality content, as Google will just be itching to drop you like a stone. Give them what they want, it's what internet users want, it's what Facebook wants, it's what Twitter wants, and therefore, it's exactly what you NEED to succeed.
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            • Profile picture of the author The Link Broker
              Originally Posted by BudaBrit View Post

              But this is pointless. Article marketing can work wonders for your business, but only if used correctly, otherwise you're only going to get at value results.

              By creating an article that has a reasonable keyword density, this article will provide these links back to your site. On article directories and the like, they are worth little, but on sites with a high PR, they are worth a nice chunk. If they do not provide value, though, Google could come along and decide this nice chunk of juice you just got is actually against it's terms of service and drop you.

              Bang, you're gone, you need to do the whole process again.

              Instead, by creating an SEO article that actually reads well, not only will you get the link juice from wherever you put it, but you will also get the link juice from wherever your readers put it. And you will also get their direct traffic too.

              This is the big thing I don't understand about many so called Internet Marketers. It's in the name, so use it! You need to market your company. Google wants organic links, so give it to them. By providing high quality content - keyworded content - you are not only getting the same you would from a $5 article, but you are destroying the possibility of Google hating you, you're increasing the probability people will click through directly and you are increasing the chances of people syndicating this work elsewhere.

              The single biggest tool available to people wanting to promote their business is people. Engage them, enthuse them, get them on your side - that's the essence of marketing, not trying to trick the SEs.

              Don't provide poor quality content, as Google will just be itching to drop you like a stone. Give them what they want, it's what internet users want, it's what Facebook wants, it's what Twitter wants, and therefore, it's exactly what you NEED to succeed.

              No, it's not pointless. Article marketing is a valuable SEO strategy. As long as the article is original and unique (i.e. it will pass a copyscape test), and it is readable by a human (i.e. not a jumbled up mess of spun content) there is absolutely NO chance that "Google could come along and decide this nice chunk of juice you just got is actually against it's terms of service and drop you". That's simply not true at all.

              What an amazingly subjective post. Was that post your idea of value? To incessantly disparage something that you have never tried? Really?

              Look, my whole point is that you shouldn't be deriding something that you literally haven't given a chance. Once again, I have repeatedly used services where I paid $5 for 1,000 words, and as I've said, 90% of them were high quality. And guess what? 80% of them were written by folks in the USA who's first language is English. I can speak from experience as someone who's used the services. Why are you talking about them at all, as someone who... hasn't?

              The bottom line is that when the OP created the first post in this thread, it had nothing to do with what Google loves/hates, and nothing to do with which ways/contexts article marketing can be valuable. It's certainly not about Facebook or Twitter.

              It's about where to find $5/1,000 SEO writing. Having had experience with services which offer exactly that, I shared what I know about it from my experiences, in an effort to help the OP. You're telling me that I'm wrong, when you haven't tried it and have no experience with it? That's classic.
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              • Profile picture of the author The Link Broker
                Originally Posted by The Link Broker View Post

                No, it's not pointless. Article marketing is a valuable SEO strategy. As long as the article is original and unique (i.e. it will pass a copyscape test), and it is readable by a human (i.e. not a jumbled up mess of spun content) there is absolutely NO chance that "Google could come along and decide this nice chunk of juice you just got is actually against it's terms of service and drop you". That's simply not true at all.

                What an amazingly subjective post. Was that post your idea of value? To incessantly disparage something that you have never tried? Really?

                Look, my whole point is that you shouldn't be deriding something that you literally haven't given a chance. Once again, I have repeatedly used services where I paid $5 for 1,000 words, and as I've said, 90% of them were high quality. And guess what? 80% of them were written by folks in the USA who's first language is English. I can speak from experience as someone who's used the services. Why are you talking about them at all, as someone who... hasn't?

                The bottom line is that when the OP created the first post in this thread, it had nothing to do with what Google loves/hates, and nothing to do with which ways/contexts article marketing can be valuable. It's certainly not about Facebook or Twitter.

                It's about where to find $5/1,000 SEO writing. Having had experience with services which offer exactly that, I shared what I know about it from my experiences, in an effort to help the OP. You're telling me that I'm wrong, when you haven't tried it and have no experience with it? That's classic.


                Funny how everyone so far in this thread has an opinion, and there's a lot of speculation, and yet I see no one else who says they've actually tried such services, and are offering an opinion based on that experience, whether good or bad.

                A couple of the articles I got through these services were good enough that I decided to use them as content, and guess what? They're each ranked in the top 3 spots in serps for every one of their keywords (each has 3 high competition keywords). And that's current - as in, after panda, penguin, and panda revisited, so I guess almighty Google must not hate them too much. But what do I know, right?
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                • Profile picture of the author TheArticlePros
                  Originally Posted by The Link Broker View Post

                  Funny how everyone so far in this thread has an opinion, when I see no one else who says they've actually tried such services, and are offering an opinion based on that experience, whether good or bad.
                  I've tried the services that offer 1000 words for $5. Last year, before I started my own article writing service, I got on vWorker (where I do have a successful worker account of my own) and ordered articles for a site I was building. The site was for me and it was on a topic I knew hardly anything about, so I thought that it would be best to hire someone who had more time than me and could research and write for me.

                  I picked a company after getting on Yahoo IM and talking with the writer at length. His English wasn't perfect, but it was very good and I was willing to settle for it for the price I was getting.

                  What I got back from him was horrible. To this day, it's the only job where I've actually fought with vWorker and gotten a refund.

                  When I say that you put garbage in (low wages) and get garbage out (sh#t articles), I was speaking from experience.

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                  • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
                    Originally Posted by The Link Broker View Post

                    No, it's not pointless. Article marketing is a valuable SEO strategy. As long as the article is original and unique (i.e. it will pass a copyscape test), and it is readable by a human (i.e. not a jumbled up mess of spun content) there is absolutely NO chance that "Google could come along and decide this nice chunk of juice you just got is actually against it's terms of service and drop you". That's simply not true at all.

                    What an amazingly subjective post. Was that post your idea of value? To incessantly disparage something that you have never tried? Really?

                    Look, my whole point is that you shouldn't be deriding something that you literally haven't given a chance. Once again, I have repeatedly used services where I paid $5 for 1,000 words, and as I've said, 90% of them were high quality. And guess what? 80% of them were written by folks in the USA who's first language is English. I can speak from experience as someone who's used the services. Why are you talking about them at all, as someone who... hasn't?

                    The bottom line is that when the OP created the first post in this thread, it had nothing to do with what Google loves/hates, and nothing to do with which ways/contexts article marketing can be valuable. It's certainly not about Facebook or Twitter.

                    It's about where to find $5/1,000 SEO writing. Having had experience with services which offer exactly that, I shared what I know about it from my experiences, in an effort to help the OP. You're telling me that I'm wrong, when you haven't tried it and have no experience with it? That's classic.
                    Well I can see what you don't like.

                    Ignore the rest of my profile, and just focus on what I write.

                    What I am not saying is that a $5 article will be in poor English. There is a fair chance it will, but it may not be. What I am not saying is that it will be unreadable. In some cases it may be, and in most it will be readable.

                    What I am saying is that it will not add value. What do you hope to achieve with this article? Gain a little boost to your rankings? This ranking may help for a little bit, but as this article is not adding value to the web, then it is something Google will not like. It wants it's results to be things people want to share, as people will then like the service it provides.

                    Instead, that direct traffic is what you need to focus on with article marketing. These people are far more likely to actually buy from you, as they have just read an article about the subject and actively clicked through to your website. They have an opinion of your company already, and it is positive. In other words, they have been subject to effective marketing. Which seems to be the purpose of this forum.

                    And, because people will share things they like, they will share your article and you will gain much more link juice than you would through a single article that doesn't say anything new and doesn't say anything old in a new way.

                    An article that is not written so well that people will want to share it is basically worth that $5. An article that people want to share can be worth thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.

                    Don't just look at SEO as gaining a quick rankings boost. That is the essence of black hat, and it is why so many IMers were hit by Panda and Penguin. No, build your brand, and your ranking will come NATURALLY, just how Google wants, and it will praise you for it.

                    That is the essence of article marketing. That is the essence of Internet Marketing and that is the essence of Search Engine Marketing. They all have one thing in common. Marketing. So don't forget it in your rush for Google's No.1.
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                    • Profile picture of the author The Link Broker
                      Originally Posted by BudaBrit View Post

                      Well I can see what you don't like.

                      Ignore the rest of my profile, and just focus on what I write.

                      What I am not saying is that a $5 article will be in poor English. There is a fair chance it will, but it may not be. What I am not saying is that it will be unreadable. In some cases it may be, and in most it will be readable.

                      What I am saying is that it will not add value. What do you hope to achieve with this article? Gain a little boost to your rankings? This ranking may help for a little bit, but as this article is not adding value to the web, then it is something Google will not like. It wants it's results to be things people want to share, as people will then like the service it provides.

                      Instead, that direct traffic is what you need to focus on with article marketing. These people are far more likely to actually buy from you, as they have just read an article about the subject and actively clicked through to your website. They have an opinion of your company already, and it is positive. In other words, they have been subject to effective marketing. Which seems to be the purpose of this forum.

                      And, because people will share things they like, they will share your article and you will gain much more link juice than you would through a single article that doesn't say anything new and doesn't say anything old in a new way.

                      An article that is not written so well that people will want to share it is basically worth that $5. An article that people want to share can be worth thousands or tens of thousands of dollars.

                      Don't just look at SEO as gaining a quick rankings boost. That is the essence of black hat, and it is why so many IMers were hit by Panda and Penguin. No, build your brand, and your ranking will come NATURALLY, just how Google wants, and it will praise you for it.

                      That is the essence of article marketing. That is the essence of Internet Marketing and that is the essence of Search Engine Marketing. They all have one thing in common. Marketing. So don't forget it in your rush for Google's No.1.

                      First of all, I haven't once looked at your profile. I don't know what you're trying to imply. I haven't been on this forum to get whatever your innuendo is. So instead of trying to make sly, subjective remarks, have the courage to come forward and say what you mean.

                      I have been focused on what you've been writing, and THAT's what I don't like. You see, it really annoys me when a person has such a strong opinion about, and worse yet, passes judgment on something that they haven't tried and thus have no experience with.

                      You said "What I am saying is that it will not add value." How do you know, since you haven't tried it? How can you make that statement based on no experience? That's forming an opinion and passing judgment on something that you know nothing about. That's an simply an ignorant thing to do.

                      You then try to educate me on article marketing and SEO based on your assumption that the articles that I got from these services couldn't have possibly had any value to them, when you have no idea. Have you read them? No, so why are you forming an opinion and passing judgment? Based on your opinion of articles that you haven't read, you're now assuming that I don't know how article marketing or SEO work.

                      I have nothing against you personally. I thought that I expressed that before when I said that I meant no disrespect to you. It just really bothers me when people pass judgment on things that they haven't tried or experienced. A person can't form an accurate opinion that way, and the person reading that opinion for direction certainly can't form an accurate opinion from reading yours. That's doing the reader a dis-service. Would you write a review article on a product that you haven't tried and call that value? If you were to go and try one of these services and have a bad experience, then come back here and deride those services based on that experience, then I could understand that. You'd then be speaking from experience.

                      One also can't assume that all of those services are good or bad based on their own experience though, or that would be stereotyping. I've had good experiences with the services, but I realize that doesn't mean that they're all good. Obviously, they aren't since JaRyCu reported having a bad experience with them. And I wouldn't expect him to assume, based on that bad experience, that there can't possibly be any good services like that out there.

                      If you want to go and try a $5/1,000 words service, and it turns out badly, then by all means, feel free to come back here and berate it. Tell me all about how bad it was. Until you do though, I can't give any weight to your opinions on those services. They hold no more value than a poorly written article.

                      I respect that you know how article marketing works. It sounds like you have plenty of experience in article marketing, thus your opinions on that can likely be valued. That's the difference though in a person discussing things that they know from personal experience versus discussing things that they think they know but are based on no personal experience.
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                      • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
                        Originally Posted by The Link Broker View Post

                        First of all, I haven't once looked at your profile. I don't know what you're trying to imply. I haven't been on this forum to get whatever your innuendo is. So instead of trying to make sly, subjective remarks, have the courage to come forward and say what you mean.

                        I have been focused on what you've been writing, and THAT's what I don't like. You see, it really annoys me when a person has such a strong opinion about, and worse yet, passes judgment on something that they haven't tried and thus have no experience with.

                        You said "What I am saying is that it will not add value." How do you know, since you haven't tried it? How can you make that statement based on no experience? That's forming an opinion and passing judgment on something that you know nothing about. That's an simply an ignorant thing to do.

                        You then try to educate me on article marketing and SEO based on your assumption that the articles that I got from these services couldn't have possibly had any value to them, when you have no idea. Have you read them? No, so why are you forming an opinion and passing judgment? Based on your opinion of articles that you haven't read, you're now assuming that I don't know how article marketing or SEO work.

                        I have nothing against you personally. I thought that I expressed that before when I said that I meant no disrespect to you. It just really bothers me when people pass judgment on things that they haven't tried or experienced. A person can't form an accurate opinion that way, and the person reading that opinion for direction certainly can't form an accurate opinion from reading yours. That's doing the reader a dis-service. Would you write a review article on a product that you haven't tried and call that value? If you were to go and try one of these services and have a bad experience, then come back here and deride those services based on that experience, then I could understand that. You'd then be speaking from experience.

                        One also can't assume that all of those services are good or bad based on their own experience though, or that would be stereotyping. I've had good experiences with the services, but I realize that doesn't mean that they're all good. Obviously, they aren't since JaRyCu reported having a bad experience with them. And I wouldn't expect him to assume, based on that bad experience, that there can't possibly be any good services like that out there.

                        If you want to go and try a $5/1,000 words service, and it turns out badly, then by all means, feel free to come back here and berate it. Tell me all about how bad it was. Until you do though, I can't give any weight to your opinions on those services. They hold no more value than a poorly written article.

                        I respect that you know how article marketing works. It sounds like you have plenty of experience in article marketing, thus your opinions on that can likely be valued. That's the difference though in a person discussing things that they know from personal experience versus discussing things that they think they know but are based on no personal experience.
                        If someone is willing to devote the amount of time it takes to create an article filled with value for $5, then they have no idea of their worth.

                        I'm not basing on nothing. I'm basing on feedback I have received, on articles I have been asked to rewrite, and on what Google themselves say.

                        For $5, no-one is going to spend the amount of time required to make a piece of content worth it's salt. Otherwise, when someone reads it, all they will do is turn to another. If you read something average, you don't share it. If you read something interesting and valuable, you will share it, and when you share it, that person gets so much more value for this than otherwise.
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                        • Profile picture of the author The Link Broker
                          Originally Posted by BudaBrit View Post

                          If someone is willing to devote the amount of time it takes to create an article filled with value for $5, then they have no idea of their worth.

                          I'm not basing on nothing. I'm basing on feedback I have received, on articles I have been asked to rewrite, and on what Google themselves say.

                          For $5, no-one is going to spend the amount of time required to make a piece of content worth it's salt. Otherwise, when someone reads it, all they will do is turn to another. If you read something average, you don't share it. If you read something interesting and valuable, you will share it, and when you share it, that person gets so much more value for this than otherwise.

                          I agree that it's highly possible that they don't know their worth. That's actually something that I just pointed out in a reply to MissTerraK. However, there's a big difference in the existence of quality writers who are oblivious to their worth, and the previously purported non-existence of quality writers willing to write valuable articles for $5.

                          In your first paragraph, you say "If someone is willing to...", and then you turn right around in the last paragraph and say "For $5, no-one is going to...". Which is your stance?

                          The fact is that yes, for $5 some people will spend the necessary time to write a quality article, and as such, it's probable that they don't know the value of that service.


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                          Hazyl, I apologize. I hope that you don't feel like we have hijacked your thread. This seems to be healthy, valuable discussion. I do hope that you have found what you were looking for.
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                  • Profile picture of the author The Link Broker
                    Originally Posted by JaRyCu View Post

                    I've tried the services that offer 1000 words for $5. Last year, before I started my own article writing service, I got on vWorker (where I do have a successful worker account of my own) and ordered articles for a site I was building. The site was for me and it was on a topic I knew hardly anything about, so I thought that it would be best to hire someone who had more time than me and could research and write for me.

                    I picked a company after getting on Yahoo IM and talking with the writer at length. His English wasn't perfect, but it was very good and I was willing to settle for it for the price I was getting.

                    What I got back from him was horrible. To this day, it's the only job where I've actually fought with vWorker and gotten a refund.

                    When I say that you put garbage in (low wages) and get garbage out (sh#t articles), I was speaking from experience.

                    -- j

                    I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience. It's nice to finally hear from someone else on the subject who actually has actually tried it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bjarne Viken
    Hi Hazyl

    I think the sentiment you are getting in the previous replies might be taken as an indication to increase your budget, or look for free writers that provide content for back-links. You find people asking for that here on the JV pages.

    The question might however by if that alternative is too labor consuming and end up costing you more. You need quality content delivered when you need it. A cheaper alternative might be to pay for a few $5-$10 articles and then ask actively for free guest-bloggers hoping you can get a few regular ones. Then if you can afford the time to get the guest bloggers your average cost get's closer to your budget.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
    Call me crazy but one thing I look for in an SEO provider is someone who writes BETTER than me. After-all whatever I put up is going to be a direct reflection of me, and my business. I want that quality to be exceeding... and really there isn't an excuse for anything but. Decent written articles by, say, English lit students, aren't expensive. Maybe you have to do a little detective work (or hell even drop by your local community college to post on their bulletin board) but it is possible.

    Why would anyone be searching for bottom dollar when they can instead search for top quality?
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  • Profile picture of the author Prashant_W
    Originally Posted by hazyl lee View Post

    Any good recommendations on good and cheap SEO writing in WF? Budget is around $5 for 1000 words.
    LOL. Good one Hazyl. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author The Link Broker
    Here's a list of several marketplaces where you can find services like that on the cheap:

    fiverr.com
    gigbucks.com
    tenbux.com
    taskarmy.com
    zeerk.com
    jobsfor10.com
    dollar3.com
    nettradr.com
    sevenstew.com
    gigme5.com
    gigdollars.com
    fiverr-gigs.com (Several sites connected based on
    gig price)
    ffiver.com (UK)
    fivesquids.co.uk (UK)
    myntmarket.co (Spanish)


    I highly recommend fiverr.

    I've used a few different article writers there for a variety of things and 90% of the articles that were supplied to me were very good. I simply give them an idea to go with or a suggested title or two, and a few keywords and let them do their thing.

    I've paid for dozens of articles on fiverr, and though I've had to proof-read a few and correct a few things here or there, that's due to my perfectionist nature and my obsession with spelling and grammar, lol. Most folks would likely never notice the difference. Many articles haven't even needed this though.

    I'd recommend my favorite writer on fiverr, but he paused his gig a while back to take a vacation or something and has not yet unpaused it, unforunately.
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  • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
    Hazyl,

    Google is on a crusade, a crusade against poor quality content. So commissioning 1000 words at half a cent a word is really not going to go down well with them. If you pay for an article at this price, you can expect to have something that reads like:

    For Google too love you, need to have natural backlinks to your site. It is imperative you make sure...

    In my experience, they have very odd word choice, such as "imperative", no-one will find that useful. You need to be hiring a native writer who can writer content or articles that are easy to read and understand but get across every point cleanly and concisely, leaving the audience feeling they've just spent 5 minutes of their time being enlightened.

    As that's the big thing about Penguin, Google wants natural links, so why not give them some? By providing your audience high quality content they want to share, you not only get your links from that article, but you get the much higher quality links from the audiences share of the article, as well as all that direct traffic.

    A piece of top quality writing can be worth 10000 times the cost of the article, while that piece of $5/1000 words is barely worth that $5 you spent.

    So spend that extra $40 and you will reap the benefits. Thousands of times.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chronic IM
    Hello! Try the warriors for hire section and also I recommend you to try easyoutsource.com. You can hire different writers on that site. But, your pricing, be more considerate on giving your price on this, this will be a very big issue you know. Best of luck to you thoguh.
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  • Profile picture of the author Davidgenius
    It's important to be careful what you're doing these days when you're buying content - a cheap, second-language writer who's over-zealous in his keyword spreading can do more harm than good and with the way Google appears to be heading, it's quality all the way.

    I would suggest you either write articles yourself, or look for a native English writer (as a very minimum), which will undoubtedly require higher rates.
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  • Profile picture of the author ElaineHenderson
    Well, I don't believe you can find a SEO friendly article of 1000 words for only $5... You should invest a bit more or ask for less words. Another option is request the article you want for that money and try to improve it your self. Don't expect people who do quality work to do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author sham2
    I think you will get only some Indians with English as second language but you will get only garbage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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    Originally Posted by hazyl lee View Post

    Any good recommendations on good and cheap SEO writing in WF? Budget is around $5 for 1000 words.

    Hell, you must have more than $5 spare change. If not, go without a meal or two this week so you can pay $10 or $15 next week.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by hazyl lee View Post

    Any good recommendations on good and cheap SEO writing in WF?
    The expression "SEO writing" is an oxymoron, Hazyl: search engines don't buy products.

    Nor is article marketing about backlinks, either: it's a largely non-SEO-based traffic-generation method in its own right.

    I've been making a living from affiliate marketing, by article marketing, for three and a half years, and out of all the niches and all the products I've tried, and all the methods I've used, I've always found that SEO traffic is the least-responsive and worst-converting form of traffic there is. It's also the most precarious way, and the least reliable, of course, because (as so many Warriors have found out over the last year or so, some of them to their very great cost) a business that relies on Google for its primary traffic can only ever be one algorithm-change away from a potential accident or even a potential disaster.

    Like so many others here, I started making a living only when I stopped trying to use "SEO writing".
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  • Profile picture of the author peewhy
    It makes me wonder how serious some people are about their online business when they want skilled writers to work their craft, not just for a researched article but for something as important as SEO, yet want to pay nothing other than peanuts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    It's easy to find cheap.

    It's easy to find good.

    It's not that easy to find good AND cheap in one spot. I'm not saying it's impossible. Sometimes people who are just starting out are willing to work for low rates. A lot of us made that mistake.

    But be prepared to constantly look for new writers because they won't stay at those prices for long. If you're not interested in a consistent voice (such as on a blog) then continually looking for new writers might not be a problem. It can be time consuming, though. If you have more time than money it may be worth your while. You may also be willing to constantly rewrite and edit the articles you receive.

    As long as you don't want a specific result from you articles it doesn't really matter who you hire. However, if you want your readers to read the entire article and then make a specific action; then it matters a lot.

    Rose
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    • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
      Originally Posted by Rose Anderson View Post

      It's easy to find cheap.

      It's easy to find good.

      It's not that easy to find good AND cheap in one spot. I'm not saying it's impossible. Sometimes people who are just starting out are willing to work for low rates. A lot of us made that mistake.

      But be prepared to constantly look for new writers because they won't stay at those prices for long. If you're not interested in a consistent voice (such as on a blog) then continually looking for new writers might not be a problem. It can be time consuming, though. If you have more time than money it may be worth your while. You may also be willing to constantly rewrite and edit the articles you receive.

      As long as you don't want a specific result from you articles it doesn't really matter who you hire. However, if you want your readers to read the entire article and then make a specific action; then it matters a lot.

      Rose
      What is the point then? Just throwing away $5? People who use Article Marketing as a tool need to actually think about what they would expect for their money, and think about how that money could best be spent. If you just want a ranking boost, then perhaps look at alternatives. If you actual want to market your company, then spend a little more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    (I was being a little sarcastic) "If you don't want to see any results then go ahead and waste your five dollars."
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Hayzl,

      My question for you is why settle with writers that have settled? If you think about settling, you think of something that can't stay afloat and slowly but surely sinks to the bottom. Why would anyone not mind being at the bottom?

      Quite frankly, because they know they don't have what it takes to be on top. Whether it be due to experience or a deep down knowledge that they just don't have what it takes. They do figure however, that as long as there are people out there who will join them in just settling, they continue on.

      You have heard the old cliche that birds of a feather flock together, correct? It holds true in this instance too.

      I guess the question you need to ask yourself is who you want to be associated with, those on the bottom, or those on the top.

      If you don't have the funds to invest in a high quality writer, have you considered putting in time, doing some research, composing your own content, then if you aren't happy with the end result, paying an excellent writer to rewrite it for you? Rewrites are less expensive than original articles.

      There is also another benefit to operating this way. As you compare what you've written to the rewrites you receive back, you can glean aspects of good writing along the way as to what makes a quality piece of content and improve what you write the next time, learning as you go along.

      Who knows, with time, you may never need to hire anyone to write or rewrite for you again.

      Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author gonzotrucker
    I pay $10 for 1000 word's. You get what you pay for. I rather pay more for better quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jennifer82
    The only way to do is go fiverr to order one.
    Maybe you'll get it if you are lucky enough.
    Anyway, Good Luck !
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  • Profile picture of the author fedor50
    Originally Posted by hazyl lee View Post

    Any good recommendations on good and cheap SEO writing in WF? Budget is around $5 for 1000 words.
    You will have to pay more money if you want quality writing.
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      I tried hiring a writer on eLance three years ago. My policy had always been to do all my own writing, but back then I was writing for several clients as well, and I had reached a point where I was spreading myself too thin.

      I posted the project on eLance for ten articles in one specific niche. The writer I eventually chose had an extensive portfolio of excellent samples, and claimed to have graduated in English from a university in Louisiana. Her bid was $7.50 each for each article of between 600 and 800 words.

      The work she delivered was appalling. I pointed out numerous grammatical and syntax errors and returned them to her, but her corrections just created fresh errors. In the end, I gave up, paid her what I owed her and trashed the articles.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Link Broker
        Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post

        I tried hiring a writer on eLance three years ago. My policy had always been to do all my own writing, but back then I was writing for several clients as well, and I had reached a point where I was spreading myself too thin.

        I posted the project on eLance for ten articles in one specific niche. The writer I eventually chose had an extensive portfolio of excellent samples, and claimed to have graduated in English from a university in Louisiana. Her bid was $7.50 each for each article of between 600 and 800 words.

        The work she delivered was appalling. I pointed out numerous grammatical and syntax errors and returned them to her, but her corrections just created fresh errors. In the end, I gave up, paid her what I owed her and trashed the articles.


        Annie, thanks for sharing your experience based on actually having tried a similar service. I wish that would become a growing trend in this thread.

        I'm sorry that you did not have a good experience.



        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        Hayzl,

        My question for you is why settle with writers that have settled? If you think about settling, you think of something that can't stay afloat and slowly but surely sinks to the bottom. Why would anyone not mind being at the bottom?
        ...


        That's probably true for a lot of people out there, but here's the thing. There are also folks out there who love to write and are good at it, but for whatever reason they're either not aware of the variety of marketplaces online where they could fetch more than $5 for their work, or for whatever other reason, they're perfectly content with writing for that price. Perhaps they don't know the market value of their work. Who knows? Since it's something that they are passionate about, they don't mind doing it for $5.

        I found someone like that before on fiverr who's native language is english and who was passionate about writing. That person wrote terrific articles that were full of value. He was more than happy to do it for $5 an article and would deliver anywhere from 750 to 1,500 words.

        I even had him create an info product for me. He wrote a 22 page, 10,000 word value packed e-book complete with references, and it was amazing. I was able to very rapidly build a list with the product because readers were clamoring over the value inside. He only asked for $40 as payment for it. On this occasion, I gave him considerably more than what he asked, just because I felt like I was robbing him at that price.

        Obviously, everyone out there is not like him, but he's not the only one. I've encountered others like him. Some people do it for the love of writing rather than for the money.
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by The Link Broker View Post


          That's probably true for a lot of people out there, but here's the thing. There are also folks out there who love to write and are good at it, but for whatever reason they're either not aware of the variety of marketplaces online where they could fetch more than $5 for their work, or for whatever other reason, they're perfectly content with writing for that price. Perhaps they don't know the market value of their work. Who knows? Since it's something that they are passionate about, they don't mind doing it for $5.

          I found someone like that before on fiverr who's native language is english and who was passionate about writing. That person wrote terrific articles that were full of value. He was more than happy to do it for $5 an article and would deliver anywhere from 750 to 1,500 words.

          I even had him create an info product for me. He wrote a 22 page, 10,000 word value packed e-book complete with references, and it was amazing. I was able to very rapidly build a list with the product because readers were clamoring over the value inside. He only asked for $40 as payment for it. On this occasion, I gave him considerably more than what he asked, just because I felt like I was robbing him at that price.

          Obviously, everyone out there is not like him, but he's not the only one. I've encountered others like him. Some people do it for the love of writing rather than for the money.
          Yes, I did indeed consider this while I was posting, however due to the long shot that your example is, I skipped it.

          Finding those types of writers is like playing the lotto. The odds of winning are astronomically high and are stacked against you. You mostly throw your money away trying to get lucky, but every once in awhile someone hits.

          I am impressed that you paid a higher asking price than your writer was charging for the e-book, but let me ask you this. Have you offered to pay him more than $5 for all of the rest of the articles?

          You see, I have a passion for writing myself and actually got started in the writing arena when someone approached me to write for them because they loved my writing style they had come across in other genres and this forum. They asked me what I would charge them to write some articles for them.

          Knowing completely nothing about pricing for freelance and ghostwriting services, I came back with a low ball figure (which was higher than $5 per article), he came back scolding me and told me never to ask that again as my writing talent and ability was worth much more than that. He gave me a figure 3 times higher than the quote I gave him and said he still felt guilty.

          He is still a very loyal client to this day even as my prices did eventually increase.

          Anyway, I said all of that to say, perhaps if you offered to pay your writer what they are worth, they would no longer undercharge for their writing and would perhaps take their writing business to the next level.

          It may not be that your writer only writes for the love it, but doesn't know any better to charge more money. I actually can't imagine someone offering writing services without loving it, that, to me anyway, should be a no-brainer.

          Terra
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