I am gonna be sick... i used to own surface tablet.com

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Ok so a few years ago Microsoft announced their surface technology... so I registered about 10 decent domains... one of them being surfacetablet.com

A while back I decided to let my surface domains expire because after years nothing was shaking, seemed like a forgotten tech.

And today Microsoft announces surface tablet. So now I am sick, felt like that domain would of skyrocketed in value to 10k maybe way more????

UGH!
#gonna #sick #surface #tabletcom
  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    Don't beat yourself up over things you cannot control now. Just look at it as a learning lesson.
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  • Profile picture of the author thomas1984
    dang... i,d be sick too, heck, Im sick for ya.
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    All you can do is carry on going forward and forget about the mistakes,just make sure you dont make the same mistake again.
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  • Profile picture of the author Offline Doctor
    Yep, and I hope you have tomorrows Winning Lotto numbers!

    Originally Posted by pwk2000 View Post

    Ok so a few years ago Microsoft announced their surface technology... so I registered about 10 decent domains... one of them being surfacetablet.com

    A while back I decided to let my surface domains expire because after years nothing was shaking, seemed like a forgotten tech.

    And today Microsoft announces surface tablet. So now I am sick, felt like that domain would of skyrocketed in value to 10k maybe way more????

    UGH!
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamerofwords
    I would be sick, too, because that domain will go through the roof now that the product is out.
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  • Profile picture of the author ajarnjoshua
    It does look sexy.

    I remember back in the day Tom Merrit from Cnet's Buzz Out Loud talked about owning a domain name that he let expire and a couple years later sold for hundreds of thousands. It happens. I can certainly understand and justify letting it go, without the technology being named as such the keywords themselves are rather generic and don't go together. It's the products that bind everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author 0oo0
    don't feel too sick, because if microsoft trade marked it (which I'm sure they did) and then you tried to sell it to someone else after that, you could possibly get in a lot of trouble for monetizing a registered trademark that isn't your own which is super illegal.
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  • Profile picture of the author C29662C
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    sucks dude.
    i feel for you seriously.

    Yea, probalby worth $10k easy
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    • Profile picture of the author prem khaira
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      All i can say is hang in there...Learn how to accept the things you cannot change!

      I know, sound straight out of an AA book!

      I wish you the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    microsoft probably would have come after you and tried to yank it anyways..
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    • Profile picture of the author C29662C
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      Originally Posted by jasonl70 View Post

      microsoft probably would have come after you and tried to yank it anyways..

      they couldn't if he had the domain name long enough

      and he could always disguise it into another name

      Microsoft isn't known for such practices anyway are thereY? not if it's like a legit affiliate
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Dont feel bad about it. To make up for it, go out there and start getting sales like crazy. Through alot of advertising at it, and make sure your backend marketing campaign is on point.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    There is absolutely nothing to feel sick about -- apart from wasting all that money registering those domains for years.

    Microsoft would have that name trademarked so you would have had to likely surrendered the domain anyway. You wouldn't have made a penny.

    That's why you should never waste your time buying domains based around popular product names like that. Trademark law will make you give up those domains if someone owns the trademark to that term or product or service.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tim_Carter
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      There is absolutely nothing to feel sick about -- apart from wasting all that money registering those domains for years.

      Microsoft would have that name trademarked so you would have had to likely surrendered the domain anyway. You wouldn't have made a penny.

      That's why you should never waste your time buying domains based around popular product names like that. Trademark law will make you give up those domains if someone owns the trademark to that term or product or service.
      If he owned it before they Trademarked it he would not have to surrender it.
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      • Profile picture of the author 0oo0
        Originally Posted by Tim_Carter View Post

        If he owned it before they Trademarked it he would not have to surrender it.
        Yeah there is a good chance he would because they now "own" the trademark. I'm not going to get in to legalities but it would be illegal to monetize it based on their trademark.
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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by Tim_Carter View Post

        If he owned it before they Trademarked it he would not have to surrender it.
        I don't think that is entirely true if you have purchased the domain with the intent to profit off someone else's brand or trademark (even if the trademark does not yet exist) -- which is why this domain was purchased in the first place.

        I think you would find it hard to win that case against Microsoft. Besides, I would think they'd be smart enough to go and trademark that name before they started talking about it to the public.

        They'd have that domain back from you in a second unless you could prove some logical reason as to why you registered it in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author ijohnson
    These comments bring up a interesting point ... if you own a domain long before a company or person trademarks it, would you have to surrender it???

    Are there any intellectual property attorneys in the house????

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    • Profile picture of the author pepper81
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      Originally Posted by ijohnson View Post

      These comments bring up a interesting point ... if you own a domain long before a company or person trademarks it, would you have to surrender it???

      Are there any intellectual property attorneys in the house????

      Iris :confused:
      That's a good question. I'd like to know the answer for that too.
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    • Profile picture of the author pwk2000
      Originally Posted by ijohnson View Post

      These comments bring up a interesting point ... if you own a domain long before a company or person trademarks it, would you have to surrender it???

      Are there any intellectual property attorneys in the house????

      Iris :confused:
      No you don't have to surrender it if you registered it before trademark. Otherwise lots of people would start trademarking popular website names to "steal" them away. Lots of popular site names are not trademarked. The only way I could see them taking a name away is if you are trying to pretend to be that company.

      I had the name registered May 30 2007. So way before the tablet came out (also had the plural surfacetablets.com). I think I would of been ok.

      I dropped my extra vista names (sold a few of those, came out way ahead) and thought it was time to drop surface names
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      • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
        Originally Posted by pwk2000 View Post

        No you don't have to surrender it if you registered it before trademark. Otherwise lots of people would start trademarking popular website names to "steal" them away. Lots of popular site names are not trademarked. The only way I could see them taking a name away is if you are trying to pretend to be that company.

        I had the name registered May 30 2007. So way before the tablet came out (also had the plural surfacetablets.com). I think I would of been ok.

        I dropped my extra vista names (sold a few of those, came out way ahead) and thought it was time to drop surface names
        Once they have the term trademarked, they could easily issue a cease a desist order. Thereby making the domain, worthless. Part of the trademark process, is a grace period for those to challenge pending trademarks. You would have had to be actively using surfacetablet.com. I forget the term, but "first in commerce" rings a bell. If you can prove you were using a name first, before it became trademarked...you may have a case.

        For me, I think the trademark process took almost a year from start to finish, and about $1,000. So I don't see people jumping on the "just trademark it" bandwagon. There are a lot of variable's along the way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Raydal
      Originally Posted by ijohnson View Post

      These comments bring up a interesting point ... if you own a domain long before a company or person trademarks it, would you have to surrender it???

      Are there any intellectual property attorneys in the house????

      Iris :confused:
      The classic case and example of this is the Nissan.com case.

      Nissan.com - Lawsuit - The Story

      Interesting read.

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  • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
    Oh man no way that was you? I registered your domain name awhile back and I ended up selling it for $43k last week to private company. I think they may have been working on behalf of microsoft. Probably could of gotten more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Simon Ashari
    Have you heard about the marketer John Reese?

    He sold a high quality domain for $1000 (after having bought it for $100).

    The guy who bought it off him sold it for $1,000,000 that day. He felt guilty and told John about it.

    While he felt annoyed at the time, he used that annoyance to focus on his marketing career which was a success.

    Good luck and good work with your initiative.

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    So, what's the verdict?!?!?!?
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    That would be annoying! However, you may have had to give it up anyway so at least you don`t have to worry about being sued!

    You also saved a few $ on domain registrations.
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  • Profile picture of the author footbag_man
    I feel your pain.. I used to own a welding domain that recently sold for $4k..

    Live and learn..

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    Originally Posted by pwk2000 View Post

    Ok so a few years ago Microsoft announced their surface technology... so I registered about 10 decent domains... one of them being surfacetablet.com

    A while back I decided to let my surface domains expire because after years nothing was shaking, seemed like a forgotten tech.

    And today Microsoft announces surface tablet. So now I am sick, felt like that domain would of skyrocketed in value to 10k maybe way more????

    UGH!
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  • Profile picture of the author pizzatherapy
    Coulda, shoulda, woulda...

    I have done similar things with purchased domains that I let expire...ouch.

    But what is done is done.

    Move forward. You had one great idea for domains. You will have other great ideas. Incredible ideas!

    I appreciate you sharing, and I feel your pain as well.

    However....

    Keep moving forward. Fail forward if you must...but move on.

    It's a new day!
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    This the same reason why I have some old domains that I don't
    use and just keep renewing them. As soon as I get the urge to
    let them expire this same scenario comes to mind and I keep
    them. You never know.

    I may retire on sale of just one of those domains some day.

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    • Profile picture of the author magiclouie
      Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

      This the same reason why I have some old domains that I don't
      use and just keep renewing them. As soon as I get the urge to
      let them expire this same scenario comes to mind and I keep
      them. You never know.

      I may retire on sale of just one of those domains some day.

      -Ray Edwards
      You probably have hundreds of domains.

      Who knows, tomorrow you could sell one of your domains for 1 Million. Dream high, think high!

      More power, pal.

      Cheers,
      Louie Tugas
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