?? Angry Google ?? - GOOGLE in Domain Name

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Hi Crew,

I have a quick question for you seasoned vets.

If I use a Domain name with the term "Google" in it, (eg, GoogleSniper.com) will this hurt my site in anyway? Will Google penalize the site, not index it, de-index it, send me cease and desist orders, generally bust my balls and that of my affiliates etc.? Your feedback is appreciated.

Thanks,

Sean
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  • Profile picture of the author Angela V. Edwards
    Originally Posted by tpcmedia View Post

    Hi Crew,

    I have a quick question for you seasoned vets.

    If I use a Domain name with the term "Google" in it, (eg, GoogleSniper.com) will this hurt my site in anyway? Will Google penalize the site, not index it, de-index it, send me cease and desist orders, generally bust my balls and that of my affiliates etc.? Your feedback is appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Sean
    Not sure, but I suspect you might hear from Google if you had a domain like this.
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    • Profile picture of the author PCH
      I can hardly wait to hear the other answers to this. For my money I can't see that they would like it, and yes, they would send the cease and desist stuff. Of course it's only our thoughts, - we can't know - yet !

      A mate of mine from my old offline business days incorporated a red and white swirly design into his logo. In no time at all, he had the "remove" notice from Coca Cola Australia, saying it looked too much like the CC swirl pattern that is obviously theirs.

      So the big companies can do pretty much what they like in most cases.

      Just my 2c. Good luck !
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    • Profile picture of the author fenomeno
      Originally Posted by Angela V. Edwards View Post

      Not sure, but I suspect you might hear from Google if you had a domain like this.
      Very true. Few years ago I had domain with Paypal in it and someone from Ebay legal department contacted me.
      Also 4-5 years ago I had domain name with Mentos in it and their legal department contacted me. But I manage to sold it to them instead of being sued

      But last few years I am trying to avoid TM everywhere I can.
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  • Profile picture of the author theimdude
    Hello, Owned a few domains with google in my time and never had a problem. Never heard of anybody that lost a domain with google in it.

    Check out blackgoogle.com as it is a parked adsense domain which use to belong to blackle.com I had a few domains with google in it with just a search box in it and my adsense account never got affected.

    Coca Cola, amazon, pepsi etc. is not the same as google as google loooooove to be seen

    This is taken

    http://www.getgooglesniper.com/

    so is many other googlesniper domains
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    • Profile picture of the author tpcmedia
      Originally Posted by theimdude View Post

      Hello, Owned a few domains with google in my time and never had a problem. Never heard of anybody that lost a domain with google in it.

      Check out blackgoogle.com as it is a parked adsense domain which use to belong to blackle.com I had a few domains with google in it with just a search box in it and my adsense account never got affected.

      Coca Cola, amazon, pepsi etc. is not the same as google as google loooooove to be seen

      This is taken

      Google Sniper Review and Bonus

      so is many other googlesniper domains

      Of course the domain is taken. I just used it as an example.

      I can't see Google wasting it's resources coming after someone for just purchasing and parking a domain. I was hoping someone had experience promoting their own Google themed product, or affiliate product, on "google" domains and could share that type experience.

      Glad to hear that your Adsense income hasn't been affected. Thanks for sharing.
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      • Profile picture of the author davezan
        Originally Posted by tpcmedia View Post

        I can't see Google wasting it's resources coming after someone for just purchasing and parking a domain.
        Heh, someone else thought so:

        http://domains.adrforum.com/domains/...ns/1434643.htm

        But...that's Google for ya.
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        • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
          Originally Posted by davezan View Post

          Heh, someone else thought so:

          http://domains.adrforum.com/domains/...ns/1434643.htm

          But...that's Google for ya.
          I wonder what on earth the registrant of all those domains was "on"!!!!!! I guess it adds a whole new meaning to the phrase "google it".
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        • Profile picture of the author dmister
          Originally Posted by davezan View Post

          Heh, someone else thought so:

          http://domains.adrforum.com/domains/...ns/1434643.htm

          But...that's Google for ya.
          The amount of Google names that guy registered is crazy, over 750! It must have been quite expensive just registering them at around $10 each. It is interesting that he tried to claim that to Google meant to search.

          I think this answers the OP`s question Google will not like you having a domain with their name in it. However, whether they pursue you is a different matter but they could probably force you to transfer it at any time!
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          • Profile picture of the author Steve B
            I am always amazed at questions like this. Who are you going to listen to?

            Are you going to choose your favorite answer from among the random opinions being expressed here?

            Why not actually do just a little good old fashioned research?

            This should help you get started:

            Google Permissions ? Guidelines

            Google Permissions - Guidelines for Third Party Use of Google Brand Features - Use of Google Brand Features

            It took about 30 seconds to find this listed under "Things You Can't Do"

            " Don't incorporate Google Brand Features into your own product name, service names, trademarks, logos, or company names. "

            Steve
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        • Profile picture of the author dv8domainsDotCom
          Originally Posted by davezan View Post

          Heh, someone else thought so:

          http://domains.adrforum.com/domains/...ns/1434643.htm

          But...that's Google for ya.
          Dave HI! AMAZING read, thank you for that!

          What I think is interesting here is the SCOPE of what this person did, and possibly some of the underlying "good will" from google.

          So, there's the obvious magnitude of the issue (one of the "most aggressive campaigns of domain name infringement that Complainant has encountered") at 750 domain names with google_______ (where ______ is some 'other' registered trademark/brand)... CRAZY!

          I think in this case, google was protecting not just it's OWN image, but that of the _______ (others) that were also infringed... because you see, those domains were forwarded to an "adult" site and (by extension) an innocent bystander could be affected.


          So maybe the "small fish" google doesn't care about so much. Or maybe they do... The point here, I think, is that they go over the "gross offenders", and in this case it was over the top, and the /use/ of the mark was certainly defamatory.

          As to the OP:
          ANY TIME you register a domain with a trademark in it, you run the risk of losing that domain at nearly any point. Period. WILL YOU lose it depends on if the complainant decides to pursue the issue; that itself depends on many things that are outside of your control, regardless (the least of which, are the whims of the trademark owner). I'm sure /if/ google wanted to pursue googlesniper.com, they could easily have it.

          Good luck to you
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by tpcmedia View Post

        I can't see Google wasting it's resources coming after someone for just purchasing and parking a domain.
        Sadly a lot of people like you, can't see that people who Trademark they're company names, actually do it for a reason.

        Instead of waiting for people to confirm or deny what you want to hear, why don't you just go and do a bit of research on Trademarks and why companies have them.

        I often find it better to reasearch a subject when it comes to legal matters, rather than having a guess at what they would or wouldn't do, as you've done.
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  • Hi Sean, that is very dangerous.
    I got lawyers requests to abandon websites when I opened a Farmville forum, a CPA site about a famous cream, and another time for a dating site.
    That is risky and dangerous for my way of thinking.

    See you soon,
    Alessandro
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Go for it! What could go wrong?

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    • Profile picture of the author cashp0wer
      I wouldn't waist my time using Google in any of my domain names. You are just asking for trouble. They may not say a word and then a few years down the road out of the blue shut you down. Wouldn't want to take that chance.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    You can buy the domain and build the site and work your butt on it until it's profitable and Google can take that domain from you at any point in that process. They could also sue you if they want to.
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  • Profile picture of the author owlfowl
    I think this is not a problem, people are buying domain with tag like facebooklikes.com, these kind of matters are not a problem now-a-days.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jordan Kovats
      Originally Posted by owlfowl View Post

      I think this is not a problem, people are buying domain with tag like facebooklikes.com, these kind of matters are not a problem now-a-days.

      Well, if you want to base your business plan on take off's of trademarked names, then go ahead.

      Everyone has a right to run their business however they choose, even if it is run poorly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by owlfowl View Post

      I think this is not a problem, people are buying domain with tag like facebooklikes.com, these kind of matters are not a problem now-a-days.
      Seriously, if you really have this little knowledge on a subject you'd be better just reading the threads, instead of commenting.

      ...some people might actually take you seriously, if they didn't know better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Noel Cunningham
    Hi Sean, as a rule of thumb I'd stay away from using Trademark names in your url. The safer option would be to use a well know abbreviation such as FB (facebook) or WP (WordPress)

    Not sure what you could change your site to...maybe "gsniper" or something like that?
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  • Profile picture of the author fundecals
    Your question is very genuine But in this time I really not know about it.I thing it will be harmful.It may the cause of duplicate domain .I am not sure ,but its only my thinking.I really want to know the correct answer for it.I am very thankful to you for share a good information.

    Thanks,
    fundecals
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  • Profile picture of the author kayfrank
    Eww. I would not go there. Just like any company name you shouldn't use it in your domain name.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpcmedia
    Thanks All, for the input. I think I'll go the conservative route and find an alternative name and domain.

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author bengirwb
      If you want to use Google or anyone other product name you have to use your head.
      Ford is not going to come after you if you create the website "usedfordcarsforsale.com"

      But for Google, these domains are already taken:

      "google-sucks.org"

      "ihategoogle.org"

      "googlesucks.info"

      "seomofo.com/google-sucks"

      These sites are on the first page for the search term "google sucks"
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      • Profile picture of the author davezan
        Originally Posted by bengirwb View Post

        Ford is not going to come after you if you create the website "usedfordcarsforsale.com"
        Since it's available, why don't you register it then? Ford does pursue those who
        register domain names bearing their trademark, so let folks here know how it goes
        if ever.

        How one is using it is only one out of various factors used to consider overall if a
        domain name is arguably infringing its trademark namesake. It's arguably easier if
        the domain name doesn't make money in any way while bearing that mark, and it
        gets murky if it does.

        And for those pointing out other domain names with Google in it, well....not all
        drivers get caught for speeding either. Those that do, though, pay the price.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adevictus
    Google probably won't care, there are shock sites out there with google in the domain name.
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  • Profile picture of the author mandude002
    I own GooglePlacesRanking.com I have not had any complaints as of yet and it was #1 and page 1 for some decent keywords. Knock on wood.
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  • Profile picture of the author bengirwb
    Quote:

    " Don’t incorporate Google Brand Features into your own product name, service names, trademarks, logos, or company names. "

    Well, I don't think a web site is considered a product, or a service name, or a trademark, or logo, or company name.

    A trademark protects your product from someone claiming to be "Google"
    I don't think "googlesucks etc." will confuse anyone into thinking that it is a "Google" product, logo, etc.

    The trademark "Mary's Face Cream" is a far cry from "Mary's Corner Gas Station" and the public will not confuse the two businesses.

    It's all in how you use a name.
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  • Profile picture of the author carlpicot
    Damn!!

    I've just bought joingoogleplus.com

    I guess I'd better start thinking of another name for my product !!

    cheers for the help guys and girls

    xxxxcarlxxxx
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  • Profile picture of the author crissie
    Well, i certainly had a good time checking out ihategoogle dot com
    and the org one tops the SE.

    Guess there are limitations to their legal argument there.

    As for a domain name that may insinuate a product by the company (which may be the case of yours even if its clearly stated it is not inside your site), then the argument will be stronger.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      The answers are out there if you care to look for them.

      Under "Terms and Conditions of the Google Brand" . . .

      "you agree not to register or attempt to register any domain names, trademarks, trade names, or other distinctive brand features" . . .

      Google has established a brand that they spend millions and millions on and they don't want anyone confusing the public with similar or "knock off" logos, names, trademarks, websites, etc.

      Yes there are hundreds, maybe thousands of domain names sporting the word "google" in part on the Internet right now. Will they come after you specifically if you do the same? Who knows?

      But why take a chance? Why build a business or even a web site on the very edge of a cliff?

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  • Profile picture of the author karlmay1980
    I don't think search engine wise it would really do anything to bad to damage results, and odds are whatever content you are covering it will do the same to your competition to if they do have something in their algorithm that demotes domains like this.

    The only thing you may get is legal action because of you including something that is trademarked, so for this reason I wouldn't even try it.

    When Google plus launched there was a mad rush to buy domains that included Gplus or GooglePlus in them and many legal people advised against it!
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  • Profile picture of the author GMT
    Definitely stay away from anything trademarked, because if you land on Googles radar, that can make quick work of you in court. Which could result in the very least your domain taken and maybe all the profit you've made while under it, not to mention additional in "damages".
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  • Profile picture of the author Manoj V
    If 10000 people have taken up names with the word google in it, Google may not go after all of them. But they will go after some and you may need to hope that it won't be you.
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  • Profile picture of the author BennyP
    It wont cause any problems SEO wise as long as you arn't false advertising yourself as a part of google.
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  • Profile picture of the author GloriaBrandt
    To tell the truth I don't know if Google will get angry with you... It is possible and it would be a reason to not index you as you said.
    Better be on the safe side. If Google is angry with you, you will get organic traffic near to zero. Why do you want to buy a domain name containing the word Google?
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  • Profile picture of the author williamk
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    Well that would still be a TM infringement. As you got the TM name in your domain. But I also think I saw a few domain with google in them too.
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  • Profile picture of the author shane_k
    It depends

    Do you want to wake up each morning with the anxiety of not knowing if today is going to be the day that Google finally sees your site and pulls the plug and you lose all that cashflow?

    Or

    Do you want to wake up each morning with the peace of mind knowing that your business is secure?
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  • Profile picture of the author yasser
    i own googlepageonein30days.com with no real problem uptill now
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  • Profile picture of the author Pcity
    I honestly don't even want to think about having that word in my domain name, you don't want to risk the big G stepping in and crushing all of your efforts in one swoop.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Be on the safe side and just choose a different domain. The problem isn't the domain... it's all within the marketing. So keep this in mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author CBusiness
    Google is not worried about you unless
    a) trashing/hurting their brand
    b) Making real money they can take from you
    c) trying to compete with their products
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe R Piercey
      WHO CARES WHETHER YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IT?

      I could probably steal something from the shop next door and get away with it. But I dont, because it's stealing...
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