Which Marketing Master would you work with?

by John Rowe 63 replies
I’m interested in who you would choose to work with for
a project OUTSIDE the ‘Making Money’ niche. For example,
acne, weight loss, singles site, or any other.

I’m talking about some big boys of marketing. Guys like Dan
Kennedy, Michael Masterson, Yanik Silver, Jeff Walker, John
Reese, Allen Says, Eban Pagan, Jonathan Mizel, Rich Schefren,
Jimmy Brown, Marlon Sanders, Frank Kern, Jim Edwards, etc.

(Don't limit yourself to that list)

If you could work with any of them on a project that DID NOT
target 'opportunity seekers & money making', and at no cost,
who would you choose?

I’d love to hear who, and why. Thanks.


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  • Profile picture of the author Deep.Arora
    I absorb everything that comes out from Rich Schefren (strategicprofits.com)..love his teachings!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Molano
      Great question!

      Within the IM niche probably John Reese, but since the question is oriented towards outside that niche, probably Eben Pagan, he's proven to be a genius in several niches.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Dominic
        Jeff Walker no doubt. He knows how to launch a product and get buzz going. There's a few big names that are successful because of Jeff...
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      • Profile picture of the author Terry M.
        Originally Posted by Narthil View Post

        Great question!

        Within the IM niche probably John Reese, but since the question is oriented towards outside that niche, probably Eban Pagan, he's proven to be a genius in several niches.
        John Reese is a genius in several niches too!

        In fact, that's what a true marketing genius should be like.

        After all, what good is a marketer? If he can only manage to sell
        products that teach people how to make money when he can't
        make any money himself? It doesn't make sense this way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
    Out of those you listed, Dan Kennedy without doubt.

    He's the guy all the others learned from
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    • Profile picture of the author Tristan Bull
      Eban Pagen is cool and knows his stuff outside of IM. Frank Kern obviously as well. I mean they all know their stuff.

      I think something else to consider would be personalities, who seems to grab you the most and who you think you would be able to learn the most from and click with.

      I also like Michael Cheney's style, he is very easy to get along with and talk to although he is mainly in the IM niche.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
        None of them. I work with James B Allen because he's got a ton of fantastic information in his brain and so perfectly complements my own expertise. I like working with someone like that -- your equal and fills in the gaps.

        OK, I might work with Allen if he just came back from Cuba with a box of cigars.
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        • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
          I'd go with Kern, or Travis Sago...

          I hear Travis is all over an outside niche right now

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      Originally Posted by Kyle Tully View Post

      Out of those you listed, Dan Kennedy without doubt.

      He's the guy all the others learned from

      I'm not sure about the others he mentioned but I was making money long before I ever heard of Dan Kennedy. Not sure where you get that kind of info from :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author semmyw
        Terry Dean! I really like him! He help me so much, when I was deadly broke and he is the only guy who replay my email.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
        Originally Posted by admin View Post

        I'm not sure about the others he mentioned but I was making money long before I ever heard of Dan Kennedy. Not sure where you get that kind of info from :-)
        Hey Allen, who the heck is he? The cat's mother?
        This would be where my mother would slap me for referring to her as 'she'.
        Does that saying make me old?

        PS: But... before Dan? Just how old are you my man?


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        • Profile picture of the author E. Corbo
          Eben Pagan is my alltime hero!

          Long before he outed himself with his real name I admired the marketing behind "David DeAngelo".

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        • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
          I think working with Jay Abraham would be cool.

          A lot of the information you see from other marketing experts originated from Jay.

          Of course a lot of Jay's work was adapting the marketing principles of direct response direct mail marketing to other business models.

          And a whole pile of his best principles come from marketing and copywriting masters of the past like Victor Schwab and Claude Hopkins.

          But Jay has the score on the board helping his clients earn over $7 billion dollars in added revenue.

          Kindest regards,
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          • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
            Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post

            I think working with Jay Abraham would be cool.

            A lot of the information you see from other marketing experts originated from Jay.

            Of course a lot of Jay's work was adapting the marketing principles of direct response direct mail marketing to other business models.

            And a whole pile of his best principles come from marketing and copywriting masters of the past like Victor Schwab and Claude Hopkins.

            But Jay has the score on the board helping his clients earn over $7 billion dollars in added revenue.

            Kindest regards,
            Andrew Cavanagh
            No doubt!

            ...Plus I like that he's a highly ethical guy.
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            • Profile picture of the author EdwardMoore
              Hello,

              Well I would have to say, my first choice would be Ed Dale. He has proven himself outside the IM World and also in the IM World. Ed is a very easy going type of guy and truly cares about helping people. He has proved this by having The Thirty Day Challenge for 4 years now and for FREE.

              To your health,
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        • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
          Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

          PS: But... before Dan? Just how old are you my man?
          That's what I was thinking...

          But I stand corrected.

          I'm still picking Dan though :p
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          Originally Posted by John Rowe View Post

          Hey Allen, who the heck is he? The cat's mother?
          This would be where my mother would slap me for referring to her as 'she'.
          Does that saying make me old?

          PS: But... before Dan? Just how old are you my man?


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          As far as I know I know I'm younger than he is. I'm sure I heard of Dan and even saw his ads, jut never read his stuff until much later. Actually, never read his stuff until quite a few years after I hit the Internet.

          Back in the 'old days' I learned a lot from the real 'old' guys, all the dead ones :-)
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          • Profile picture of the author entrepenerd
            I'd have to go with Frank Kern myself. I love his style and personality. It fits with mine very well, and would be much easier to learn from than some of the others.
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            • Profile picture of the author Zach Booker
              Great question.
              I would pick Frank Kern, Hands down no questions asked...He's truly a genius online.
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              • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
                Michael Masterson
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              • Profile picture of the author rperales
                Personally...

                ..I have to pick Allen Says..He gave me some great tip from the very
                beginning that got me started with email marketing maybe he don't
                remember but I used to get his Newsletter once in a while and I end up
                earning some pretty good money with my first venture Email Video back
                in those days..But that was it..I am not a net marketer, I don't like it
                to do business here..

                unless it's for a good cause or something like that..

                Another reason is that marketing here is so backwards or really I don't
                or can't pin point what I'm trying to say..

                Maybe by saying Frank Sinatra..he did it his way and so did I.

                In the net, we need each other to make money but for the most
                part we prefer SOLO instead of Networking together making it easier
                for each other and more people would make more money..

                As it is today and as it has been in the past..we haven't learn how
                to multiply our dolllars that can make a lot of people rich a lot faster..

                Here is what I am saying..

                We start small make a little money..we invest in a bigger ticket item
                and we continue to do that and before we know it we are Millionaires..

                Of course, we need a Business Patttern and we need to stick with it..
                It can't fail..

                Even though I suck big time when it comes to show an example, I really
                don't have the time nor the energy..so maybe another time..

                Is it hard to become a millionaire?..NOPE!..

                One thing for sure..it is hard trying to do it as a SOLO!

                rey

                P.S. I wouldn't dare to live like what I am worth..Why?..Because it takes
                away the challanges that Life gives me however, I do go first class when
                I party..well, in short yeah..I like to spend a lot of money when I party..

                But for the most part..I have access to a very powerful mind that gives me
                everything I want so heck, who needs all that money?
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                • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
                  I'd probably pick Jay Abraham since I discovered him before Dan Kennedy... Although I wouldn't tell Dan Kennedy no if he wanted to work with me.

                  Jay is probably a better fit for most IMers as he's famous for running his seminars until 1-2 a.m. Dan Kennedy mentions in his time management book (which is a must-read) that he likes to start his day at 5-6 a.m.

                  Half of the IMers I know aren't going to bed until 5 a.m.

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                    • Profile picture of the author MommyEnterprises
                      Now that wold be a hard one. There are many successful IM'ers that I would love to have for a mentor!
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                      • Profile picture of the author Mike Montgomery
                        Terry Dean or Jimmy D. Brown, without question.

                        I believe they are two of the most honest and all-around
                        best marketers on the net
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                      • Profile picture of the author Phil Jacobson
                        The guy who got me into Internet Marketing was Jeff Mulligan. Just a trustworthy kind of guy i reckon.

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                        • Profile picture of the author Frank Bruno
                          I would go with Michael Masterson and Rich Shefren.

                          Michael has a devestating way to turn any company into a multi million dollar machine within a wicked short amount of time.

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                          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                            Here's an answer that might surprise a lot of people.

                            I have no idea.

                            I know nothing about any of these people other than what I've been told
                            by others. I'm not saying these people aren't successful. I just don't know
                            anything about them personally to make any kind of informed decision as to
                            who would be my best fit.

                            Who would be the best and most patient teacher, because I can ask a lot
                            of questions?

                            Who would be the best to fit my current methods to because I don't want
                            to have to gut my whole business model and start over from scratch?

                            Which one would I get the most out of and be able to take the knowledge
                            on my own and expand on it? I don't want to work with somebody who,
                            after I am done, ended up doing all the work because his stuff was so far
                            over my head that I got nothing more out of it than a paycheck.

                            So because I know nothing about any of these people personally, it's a
                            question that I just can't answer.
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                            • Profile picture of the author John Rowe
                              Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                              Here's an answer that might surprise a lot of people.

                              I have no idea.

                              I know nothing about any of these people other than what I've been told
                              by others. I'm not saying these people aren't successful. I just don't know
                              anything about them personally to make any kind of informed decision as to
                              who would be my best fit.

                              Who would be the best and most patient teacher, because I can ask a lot
                              of questions?

                              Who would be the best to fit my current methods to because I don't want
                              to have to gut my whole business model and start over from scratch?

                              Which one would I get the most out of and be able to take the knowledge
                              on my own and expand on it? I don't want to work with somebody who,
                              after I am done, ended up doing all the work because his stuff was so far
                              over my head that I got nothing more out of it than a paycheck.

                              So because I know nothing about any of these people personally, it's a
                              question that I just can't answer.
                              Well Steven, that's about the longest (non) answer I've ever laid eyes on.


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                            • Profile picture of the author Todd Walker
                              ummmm ... my dad
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                            • Profile picture of the author cdm8
                              Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                              Here's an answer that might surprise a lot of people.

                              I have no idea.
                              I second Steven, and my answer is... it depends. It depends on the unique situation, which includes the stage the business is at... the market you're in... and whole lot of other variables.

                              What I can tell you is I wouldn't choose most of the "Internet Marketing" marketers. Most can't or won't show measurable results for all those who apply their techniques and procedures. Forget the one-off odd ball home run testimonials.

                              I've had a look at many of the programs of the supposed "gurus" after I outgrew my previous business mentor of six years.

                              At the top of my list of those I don't recommend is Rich Schefren. Having two of my own offline business that each pay me six figures a year, I put Rich Schefren's BGS program to test to see if it lived up to his promise "I want to show you the easy way - and the right way to choose a business if you don't have one." The way I saw it, I had to test to see if I've got the right mentor.

                              My test was to go through the program, and apply it to a new legal entity I setup for the new experimental business. I also had the funding and resources to run the test.

                              At the end of the program, I had a new site, product, traffic, payment processing, et al. and unacceptable results... a write off if you will.

                              I recognized Rich Schefren's 100% assurance of success promise was too good to be true, but I didn't expect the bigger surprise I faced when I asked for a refund based on his sales promise "Here's your 100% assurance of success - Money back guarantee: after implementing my coaching, if you don't succeed at building your own hyper profitable business that runs and grows without you - then you won't owe me a red cent!"

                              The fact is Schefren and co. refused to issue the refund, or explain the reason for refusing to issue the refund - even when I met the conditions of refund.

                              I believe it's this sort of stuff that shows slick or sleazy sales tactics over substance. That's not what anyone should get from a business mentor.

                              For me, it's about having a proven and accountable mentor who can help produce measurable results. It's about having a mentor who teaches strong and ethical business practices that won't put my business at risk.

                              It's shouldn't be about about being targeted with seedy sales and marketing tactics... but that's just my rant.

                              Ultimately, it really all depends on your present needs.

                              CDM8

                              ps. there is one IM mentor I worked with and recommend, and that's Perry Marshall. His programs is all about directly measurable results.

                              p.p.s. the Schefren incident irked me so much I set my lawyer onto the matter.
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                              • Profile picture of the author glasshalffull
                                hey cdm8,

                                Sorry to hear about your issues, at least you got the whole course.....lol.

                                I share your grief from a different angle. I have been trying, for over a month now. to get pieces of the BGS course that weren't sent to me, delivered without....any results. The support staff is horrible in my opinion.

                                It takes them days just to respond to my constant pleas to send me what I've paid for. I don't believe in....nor do I like the idea of coming in a public forum to introduce my problems but I've done just about everything I can to try to get what I've paid for. So now I'm just venting.

                                I'm getting tired of these guys not having any accountability. Things need to change to provide more security for customers.

                                Why should someone who has paid for something in full be treated like this, at the least, the other side that's not provided what they claim they will provide, should somehow be held accountable in some form.

                                Maybe it's possible that the top of the ladder isn't always aware of the problems happening a few levels down. But they should be. At least have thoroughly put together a plan in the case that something like yours and my problem actually do occur.

                                Speaks volumes about how well they run their business and care about the customers satisfaction. Seems all too familiar a cry that we hear about in this industry.

                                Not only can you learn from the information that you purchase, but sometimes you get an even sharper lesson just going thru the buying process.

                                Ironically, that's one thing I'm getting that I didn't pay for.
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                                • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
                                  I actually had to turn Dan Kennedy down. He keeps calling, but I let it go to voice mail. I guess he does not get the hint.

                                  I might consider letting JR work with me. have to think about it, but just thinking out loud here, I'd at least consider it. I like his lambo, and he's good on video.

                                  Kern though... that guy, well, you know, he's pretty funny (not funny like a clown, but funny) and I think I can say I'd probably agree just for sh^&s and giggles. And, besides, I'd probably get an unadvertised JMO along with that deal, and I'd surely pull the trigger since JMO is involved. Then, we all get to make fun of Dr Mike, and that's just priceless.

                                  If admin came calling... I'd say yes without hesitation. He's mysterious... likes cigars... and I'm pretty sure enjoys good cajun food, so we got a lot in common (except the mysteriousness, and monkeys)

                                  And then there's Paul Myers. well, he's family, so done deal.

                                  Rod Cortez, because he's one killer ass cool dude.

                                  Chris Sutton because... well, I cant think of anything, but he likes Johnny Cash

                                  .X. because he's got the best logo for a name in existence and knows his stuff on adwords.

                                  Heck, I could go on forever.

                                  Eric
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                                • Profile picture of the author cdm8
                                  Originally Posted by glasshalffull View Post

                                  hey cdm8,

                                  Sorry to hear about your issues, at least you got the whole course.....lol.

                                  I share your grief from a different angle. I have been trying, for over a month now. to get pieces of the BGS course that weren't sent to me, delivered without....any results. The support staff is horrible in my opinion.
                                  I experienced the same bad service with another Rich Schefren program I purchased too.

                                  I bought the Business Acceleration Program back in December, and was charged $79 for international shipping. The double kick in the mouth was the poor customer service and unapologetic response I got from them.

                                  I had opened two different support tickets in January and it took days to get a reply saying I should call the office. I called but then no one answered the phone. Also, no one returned my call after I left a couple voice messages.

                                  Eventually I got a hold of Paul Johnson, and he found their computer system had a glitch with my order. Nearly two weeks after my first support request, Strategic Profits sent out my order. The worse part was there was no apology... no consolation... nothing... just the full price for the program -- plus the full $79 shipping hit.

                                  How's that for treating customers like... any joe blo crap?

                                  As a customer who had already spent several thousands of dollars with Strategic Profits, I felt like I got a double slap to the face... with loads of bad bloody after taste.

                                  Then to add insult to injury, I learned later the "12 module" BGS program only had 11 modules -- even though I still had to pay the remaining $400 for the 12th month without getting the last module.

                                  I won't even rehash the salt in the wound refund refusal, except that it took it all over the top.

                                  No matter how p*ssed I am with Strategic whatever, I can't help to laugh to hear Rich Schefren contradict his own teachings. In some cases, he says you've got to gain business momentum as fast as possible and worry about customer service later. In other cases, he says you've got to care about your customers because you can't afford to have the bad press in this day and age of "attention." He even went on to talk about how damaging bad social conversation and attention was for companies like Dell and Kryponite.

                                  In my opinion, the contradiction is hypocracy, and sign of sleazy marketer instead of a great teacher. I believe it's a greed driven attempt to sell filler over measurably good useful advice.

                                  CDM8

                                  p.s. don't even ask how many MONTHS I waited for the very final product I bought from Schefren. That one went to the FTC as a consumer complaint - of a sale without product. Have fun with the feds with that one Schefren!

                                  p.p.s. pay heed Schefren sales buddies... play the sleaze game and the feds will be onto you... Kern can probable tell you all about the (millionnaire empire) experience at great length. It's a big party until the feds shut it down.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
                          I'd also like to work with Obama's Internet marketing team. Can you imagine the size of his list?

                          The only thing better than email addresses is cell phone numbers. His recent campaign to text message his VP choice was brilliant. Now he can contact people by phone or text message instantly - without waiting for them to check their email. He also doesn't have to worry about spam filters, etc.

                          Not to mention his Facebook, Twitter, Linked-in, and other web 2.0 presence.

                          Those dudes are some real Marketing Masters and are kicking McCain's ass online.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
    I like this question There's only 2 big time marketers I've ever really paid attention to.

    The first is John Reese. I got Traffic Secrets 1. I'd love to pick his brain and see if I can duplicate his success. I've always liked his work.

    The second is Eben Pagan. I just like his approach and how easy going he seems. If I could make what he does in an hour I'd be REALLY happy He seems to really understand people and get into lots of difficult niches.
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    • Profile picture of the author naruq
      Dan Kennedy and Yanik Silver. Dan Kennedy has mentored multi-millionaire Internet marketers and direct marketers. Yanik Silver for Internet Marketing. As a matter of Fact, Yanik Silver is one of Dan Kennedy's students.
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      • Profile picture of the author Fabian Tan
        Lots of cool guys on your list, but the biggest gurus would have to be Michael Masterson, Rich Schefren and of course Dan Kennedy.

        Now, those guys have some hardcore strategies, and not a fabricated personality. Their emails are full of content too, not rubbish like "Hey, here is another funny video of me goofing around that will waste your time and offer you NO marketing information whatsover, check this out"

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        • Profile picture of the author Ram
          Originally Posted by Fabian Tan View Post

          Lots of cool guys on your list, but the biggest gurus would have to be Michael Masterson, Rich Schefren and of course Dan Kennedy.

          Now, those guys have some hardcore strategies, and not a fabricated personality. Their emails are full of content too, not rubbish like "Hey, here is another funny video of me goofing around that will waste your time and offer you NO marketing information whatsover, check this out"

          Fabian

          Michael Masterson is a "fabricated personality." Mark Ford is the real name.
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          • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
            Without a doubt, the worlds leading authority's on influence and persuasion, Kevin Hogan. Around 12 published books and many on best sellers lists.

            Since one day I'd like to have a book published, I'd pick him.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    Without a doubt...


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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Originally Posted by Lance K View Post

      Without a doubt...



      JAY ABRAHAM
      Oh yea, and if Jay isn't available, I wouldn't mind working with Alex Mandossian OR John Scherer (the Video Professor guy).
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  • Profile picture of the author Allegro
    Did someone already mention Steve Pavlina?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris W. Sutton
    Pfffft! Are you kidding me? Those guys you mentioned are all good but they don't even come close to the king of the internet!

    I'm talking about the man who made Milwaukee famous!

    I'm talking about the man who takes you where the rubber meets the road!

    I'm talking about the man who put the "priceless" in the MasterCard commercial!

    I'm talking about the man who can get up and get away!

    I'm talking about the man who can tell you where the beef is!

    I'm talking about the man who obeys his thirst!

    I'm talking about the man who is the real thing!

    I'm talking about the one, the only, everybody's favorite teeter-totterer...



    Eric Louviere

    and since no one bothered to mention some of the best people who are ladies, just let me also say I would love to work with Tiffany Dow, Kymi Standerline, Rachel Goodchild, Becky Hagel, Angela Edwards, Christy Knowlton, Anna Johnson, Lynn Terry, Debbie Bressler, Alice Seba, Janet Sawyer, AllisonG (okay, I just wanted to see if you were paying attention), Judy (zapseo) Koppenhoffenwiserwhatever-her-last-name-is, and others who I can't think of right now because my mind has gone blank. I'm sorry if I missed you!

    I didn't mention Bev Clement because I talk to her every day and, besides, she can be mean to me sometimes. I didn't mention Mary Murtha because I talk to her a lot, too. She stays too busy to work with anyone, anyway.

    I would work with any one of those ladies before I would most of the other guys mentioned because I have found that women marketers are much easier to work with. In my opinion, they are better team players and much more organized.
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  • A toss up between corey rudl and gary halbert.
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  • Profile picture of the author alfardo
    Its Ed Dale and Dan Raine for me every time. I love Frank Kerns work and jason Moffatt is a pretty cool dude also.
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  • Profile picture of the author virtualpro
    They're all great, but they don't influence me enough.

    No one can beat my family.

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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    David Vallieres and/or John Delavera
    David because he writes great copy.
    John because I've watched him start here years ago with one product and then become very successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author rogerlodge
    1. Dan Kennedy (he's forgotten more about marketing than we'll ever know)

    2. Jay Abraham (he's the original marketing genius)

    3. David Frey (he's a genius at offline to online marketing in different niches)

    4. Ryan Deis (very smart guy, I like his style and his approach to niche marketing)

    5. Ben Hart (kinda like David Frey. Knows offline / online marketing extremely well)

    Roger
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    • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
      I'd choose someone like Ken McCarthy or Jay Abraham.

      However, here's a mind technique that you can use to get advice from
      your marketing master right now.

      Read all of their materials, listen to their audios, watch their videos and
      just absorb yourself in their approach and philosophy. Get their material
      into your bones.

      Then, in your mind's eye, imagine that they're in the room with you RIGHT
      NOW disucussing your project with you.

      Ask them some questions on your situation and imagine what advice they'd
      give you if you were to ask them.

      You'll be surprised at how 'on the money' some of the advice they give you is.

      By the way, this technique is nothing new. Napoleon Hill mentions it in his
      book Think & Grow Rich where he talks about having a mental board of
      directors that you consult with anytime.

      The neat twist about this is that you can have any marketing master - dead
      or alive. So go on, you can even add Claude Hopkins, John Caples, Gary
      Halbert, Eugene Schwartz, etc.

      Just add your own heros and sheros and ask away.

      I have a mental board of directors for marketing, for copywriting and even
      for personal development.

      I hope you find this useful.

      Best wishes,

      Shaun
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  • Profile picture of the author matthewd
    Steven Wagenheim hit the nail right on the head for what I was thinking.

    All those guys seem cool, but they are marketing to us, so of course they seem cool.

    There is one that popped into my mind quickly though and fortunately, I do know him pretty well. The person I would choose over anyone is Travis Sago. I have had the chance to work with him a bit and have made a ton of money because of him already, but would love to work with him on a bigger level.
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  • Profile picture of the author Internet Stores
    I think I would learn and partner with Michael Cheney. Although, he is in the Internet Marketing niche. I like his style and he is easy to talk to! I enjoy his webcam presentations too. He's a pretty cool, fun guy.
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    Susan Lassiter-Lyons
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    Have fun. Create value.

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  • Profile picture of the author Chris_King
    I would go with Dan Kennedy. Everything I have read from him is gold, and he obviously knows his stuff outside of the IM niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author ramselly
    As I started looking up the people you mentioned to read up on them, I came across a US/Canada Marketing Team list that kind of matched this discussion. Here are the people it listed:
    Rich Schefren
    John Reese
    Jim Edwards
    Mike Filsaime
    Frank Kern
    Armand Morin
    Dan Kennedy
    Derek Gehl
    Stephen Pierce
    Yank Silver
    Joe Vitale
    Alex Mandossian

    It's for the "2008 Internet Marketing Ryder Cup", anyone know about it?
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    • Profile picture of the author sgs
      David Vallieres - he is thoughtful, not at all pushy, and I love his style.

      He also has fewer typos than many others. Typos for me are a complete turn off -- if the copy has typos, then I know the writer a) hasn't shown it to anyone or b) doesn't care enough to get it right. And if that's the case - then how valuable is the material?

      The first article I ever read about IM was "Fail as Fast as Possible" - just great.

      Jan
      aka -- sgs
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